| Why have some anime like melancholy of haruhi suzumiya, evangeleon, your name and serial experiment lain been made unnecessarily convoluted even when if they portrayed the anime in simpler way there would not be any change in quality? its just like if any simpler anime explains a thing through 1 direct sentence. These anime use 3 indirect sentences for that. Do the creators really think that if the viewers use their brain a little more and spend their time a little more to decode the anime that will get them better scores? THOSE WHO CONSIDER THEMSELVES TO BE FISH BY CALLING MY POST BAIT CAN GO TO DUBAI MARKET |
R0NIT4RDSep 8, 2023 12:23 PM
You all have to undrestand that Chainsaw man is impossible to adapt without CG. |
| It would be pretty boring if every message was conveyed the same way, so I don't really mind convoluted ways of doing it, assuming it does make sense by the end of the series. |
| Who are you and why do you show your hostility towards a complete stranger whom you've not once spoken with before. Are you seriously asking to get blocked? Well, if that's what your intent is; to tempt me into throwing hands with someone as lowly and insignificant as you, then i may grant your wish provided you articulate yourself a bit better when trying to spite a person of my wavelength. |
| The thing with complex stories is that they are hard to do well, and after a while they just become confusing for no good reason. |
| @Fakorrfuck those whores you talk about definitely understood the story. i am not talking about problems in understanding the anime. I am not talking about the way of understanding it |
You all have to undrestand that Chainsaw man is impossible to adapt without CG. |
| Haruhi is not that complex if you know what to expect (the main arc is in the right order, the episodic stuff that chronologically happens later was just put inbetween) and the result definitely wouldn't have been the same (climax in the middle of the season vs climax at the end) -> bait thread made without putting much thought into it |
| It's true that technically it's not necessary to make them confusingly complex. It's perfectly possible to tell a deep story that anybody can understand. But I agree with @-Ryu that diversity is a good thing. |
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Haruhi is not that complex if you know what to expect (the main arc is in the right order, the episodic stuff that chronologically happens later was just put inbetween) and the result definitely wouldn't have been the same (climax in the middle of the season vs climax at the end) -> bait thread made without putting much thought into it
| @Nirinbo i am really sorry for not having time to make bait threads |
You all have to undrestand that Chainsaw man is impossible to adapt without CG. |
Reply to TheMechaManiac
>haruhi
Actually a deceptively simple work - it's all about friendships and relationships.
>evangelion
Same thing, the relationships between the characters are what matters the most in the show, and specifically that it's not easy to make major decisions in life
>your name
Shinkai's most vapid and empty movie by far. Generic romance and that's really it, nothing to write home about.
>lain
The only anime out of those four I could call "complex" to an extent, but in the end it represents how much power the Internet gives to the ordinary person.
0/10, post better bait next time.
Actually a deceptively simple work - it's all about friendships and relationships.
>evangelion
Same thing, the relationships between the characters are what matters the most in the show, and specifically that it's not easy to make major decisions in life
>your name
Shinkai's most vapid and empty movie by far. Generic romance and that's really it, nothing to write home about.
>lain
The only anime out of those four I could call "complex" to an extent, but in the end it represents how much power the Internet gives to the ordinary person.
0/10, post better bait next time.
| @TheMechaManiac just tell me what would i set the bait for? like you all consider yourselves as fish? |
You all have to undrestand that Chainsaw man is impossible to adapt without CG. |
| how about if we use the terms "prosaic" and "poetic" instead of "simple" and "complex"? |
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| convoluted != complex a clock is simple on the outside, but complex on the inside i´d say stuff like FMA is complex but still rather simple to understand |
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| "COMPLEX == BETTER?" Most of the time...unless we are talking about "unnecessary convoluted". |
| I like complex things, though most things are really quite simple depending on the day. Though none of that really matters at the end of the day, things are only ever as complex as people want them to be anyway. Though usually people talk about finding meaning in things the adverse occurs quite often as well. Some people find value in complex things and some find such in simple things really depends on the person at the end of the day. The idea of things being simple seems to be the most attractive option to most people nowadays: "it's not that deep", "x is just y (and y is what I'm the most comfortable with)" whatever. Though this is more of a yes/no? thread more than anything, so maybe? |
R0NIT4RD said: BAIT POST.THOSE WHO CONSIDER THEMSELVES TO BE FISH BY CALLING MY POST BAIT CAN GO TO DUBAI MARKET Anyway, Evangelion and Your Name are not convoluted. Idk what you're talking about there. R0NIT4RD said: why would there not be any change in quality? That's literally a storytelling quality. There WOULD be change.been made unnecessarily convoluted even when if they portrayed the anime in simpler way there would not be any change in quality? R0NIT4RD said: and?its just like if any simpler anime explains a thing through 1 direct sentence. These anime use 3 indirect sentences for that. R0NIT4RD said: yeah. A lotta people see it that way. I mean you oughta use your little brain once in a while right.Do the creators really think that if the viewers use their brain a little more and spend their time a little more to decode the anime that will get them better scores? |
| believe it or not it is actually posting something like this that makes a person look foolish, rather than anyone's particular taste in anime. it's amazing that you are so threatened by ambiguity, nonlinearity and abstraction (none of these works is actually particularly "complex") that you have to start raising suspicions about what the directors' motives are and shit like that. the anime are like that because they wanted to make them that way, and they thought it would BETTER convey what they wanted to convey, than if they just directly expressed the "facts" of the narrative to you like it's a driver's manual or a history book. there is not only one way to tell a story. it's not up to anyone in particular to decide what the "point" of anime is, or to decide for everyone that being direct is the best way to express any idea or feeling ever. what's up with picasso? why would he paint stuff like this  when he could draw like this  was bro just trying to seem smart? trying to get higher scores on my art list dot com? wouldn't a person actually get higher scores just by doing things the ordinary, easier to understand, popular way, like most popular artists do??? if being abstruse or experimental was the key to high ratings then why wouldn't everyone do it? maybe it's because, just as in SEL the intention isn't merely to present the facts of a story, the intention of the above painting isn't merely to show a woman playing a mandolin. the style in and of itself affects how the viewer understands what they see. |
| No, not necessarily. It depends on the genre for instance action, comedies, or hentai do not need to be complex to be good, but something like space operas, mysteries or psychological thrillers benefit from it. I can enjoy both the simple and complex stuff. Being too "complex" to the point where everything is some vague, cryptic, overly-contrived cipher that nobody understands in an attempt to be "deep" is also a thing though. Give me a key to go along with the cipher at least. |
KruszerSep 8, 2023 10:59 PM
| "The name's Gambit. Remember it." -Gambit "X-Men '97"  |
| I love complex explanations in anime since I am a mystery fan.. Man you are the fish who got baited by the name of the anime kawaii complex and thought it was full of complex plots.. Do you think we are all penaldo? Nobody running away to the Arabian desert... R0NIT4RD said: THOSE WHO CONSIDER THEMSELVES TO BE FISH BY CALLING MY POST BAIT CAN GO TO DUBAI MARKET |
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| I agree that something being more complex doesn't not make it better and something being less complex doesn't make it bad. Its about personal taste first and foremost. I mean, just look at some of the things people consider art unironically. I don't know if your choices really prove your point though. Personally I didn't dislike Your Name and Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya because they were too complicated. I disliked them because Your Name wasn't that engaging for me, and because Haruhi was the worst character in her own series (imo). I don't think being a little more wordy is really the same as being more complex. If I were going that route, I'd use the Monogatari series or Occultic;Nine. Those shows are even more wordy and at times hard to keep up with, especially Occultic;Nine. |
Reply to ryo-san
I love complex explanations in anime since I am a mystery fan..
Man you are the fish who got baited by the name of the anime kawaii complex and thought it was full of complex plots..
Do you think we are all penaldo? Nobody running away to the Arabian desert...
Man you are the fish who got baited by the name of the anime kawaii complex and thought it was full of complex plots..
Do you think we are all penaldo? Nobody running away to the Arabian desert...
R0NIT4RD said:
THOSE WHO CONSIDER THEMSELVES TO BE FISH BY CALLING MY POST BAIT CAN GO TO DUBAI MARKET
THOSE WHO CONSIDER THEMSELVES TO BE FISH BY CALLING MY POST BAIT CAN GO TO DUBAI MARKET
| @ryo-san man your re the fish who got baited into thinking that convoluted parts give people orgasms |
You all have to undrestand that Chainsaw man is impossible to adapt without CG. |
Reply to TheMechaManiac
@R0NIT4RD Don't play silly mate. Your post is low-tier bait that a child could see for what it is.
Nobody considered Haruhi to be a particularly "complex" anime, same with Kimi no na wa. Evangelion is a case of serious misconception that boils down to missing the point of the show, but the series is more of a case of "work shaped by things the creator loved" rather than some overly complex work.
3/4 of the anime you mentioned are actually not complex in the slightest and they IMO do not represent "complex anime". Something like "Tenshi no Tamago" is an actually complex anime.
As for the question, I just like all kinds of shows. Simple and complex.
Nobody considered Haruhi to be a particularly "complex" anime, same with Kimi no na wa. Evangelion is a case of serious misconception that boils down to missing the point of the show, but the series is more of a case of "work shaped by things the creator loved" rather than some overly complex work.
3/4 of the anime you mentioned are actually not complex in the slightest and they IMO do not represent "complex anime". Something like "Tenshi no Tamago" is an actually complex anime.
As for the question, I just like all kinds of shows. Simple and complex.
| @TheMechaManiac why would i bait your for man. i wonder what people go through in this website. Would i try to make you angry?? that is what you call bait. what am i getting in return? your tears? lol you are the one overthinking it. And as for the people who actually think they can make others angry by writing posts in an anime platform they should be sent to hospitals |
You all have to undrestand that Chainsaw man is impossible to adapt without CG. |
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R0NIT4RD said:
THOSE WHO CONSIDER THEMSELVES TO BE FISH BY CALLING MY POST BAIT CAN GO TO DUBAI MARKET
BAIT POST.THOSE WHO CONSIDER THEMSELVES TO BE FISH BY CALLING MY POST BAIT CAN GO TO DUBAI MARKET
Anyway, Evangelion and Your Name are not convoluted. Idk what you're talking about there.
R0NIT4RD said:
been made unnecessarily convoluted even when if they portrayed the anime in simpler way there would not be any change in quality?
why would there not be any change in quality? That's literally a storytelling quality. There WOULD be change.been made unnecessarily convoluted even when if they portrayed the anime in simpler way there would not be any change in quality?
R0NIT4RD said:
its just like if any simpler anime explains a thing through 1 direct sentence. These anime use 3 indirect sentences for that.
and?its just like if any simpler anime explains a thing through 1 direct sentence. These anime use 3 indirect sentences for that.
R0NIT4RD said:
Do the creators really think that if the viewers use their brain a little more and spend their time a little more to decode the anime that will get them better scores?
yeah. A lotta people see it that way. I mean you oughta use your little brain once in a while right.Do the creators really think that if the viewers use their brain a little more and spend their time a little more to decode the anime that will get them better scores?
| @TRC_Randy its not a mystery anime that people will use their brains into. the plot of your name was one of the worst and illoical but rather i am talking about the way of portrayal of stuffs. There would be no change in quality and there is a high risk of getting low scores if it is too much convoluted. Good story telling means complex??? i did not know that. Our little brains ashould be used for anime like death note and psycho pass not some anime higurashi, haruhi sizimiya. Well you are a fish so you might not understand |
You all have to undrestand that Chainsaw man is impossible to adapt without CG. |
Reply to cyandaqil
how about if we use the terms "prosaic" and "poetic" instead of "simple" and "complex"?
| @cyandaqil its definitely not prosaic or poetic. that is why i havent mentioned anime like perfect blue and paprika. |
You all have to undrestand that Chainsaw man is impossible to adapt without CG. |
| not always kara no kyoukai movies are garbage |
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R0NIT4RD said: why must it be mystery anime?its not a mystery anime that people will use their brains into. R0NIT4RD said: what's illogical about it?the plot of your name was one of the worst and illoical R0NIT4RD said: then it's the execution quality. Still a change in quality.the way of portrayal of stuffs. There would be no change in quality and there is a high risk of getting low scores if it is too much convoluted. R0NIT4RD said: no one said that. Complexity/simplicity are just two different approaches. One isn't automatically better than the other.Good story telling means complex??? i did not know that. R0NIT4RD said: btw Death Note is a psychological not mystery. Higurashi IS mystery.Our little brains ashould be used for anime like death note and psycho pass not some anime higurashi, haruhi sizimiya. R0NIT4RD said: Wow, i am SO TRIGGERED by the insult of the Lord of the Fishes.Well you are a fish so you might not understand One more thing: |
Reply to TRC_Randy
R0NIT4RD said:
its not a mystery anime that people will use their brains into.
why must it be mystery anime?its not a mystery anime that people will use their brains into.
R0NIT4RD said:
the plot of your name was one of the worst and illoical
what's illogical about it?the plot of your name was one of the worst and illoical
R0NIT4RD said:
the way of portrayal of stuffs. There would be no change in quality and there is a high risk of getting low scores if it is too much convoluted.
then it's the execution quality. Still a change in quality.the way of portrayal of stuffs. There would be no change in quality and there is a high risk of getting low scores if it is too much convoluted.
R0NIT4RD said:
Good story telling means complex??? i did not know that.
no one said that. Complexity/simplicity are just two different approaches. One isn't automatically better than the other.Good story telling means complex??? i did not know that.
R0NIT4RD said:
Our little brains ashould be used for anime like death note and psycho pass not some anime higurashi, haruhi sizimiya.
btw Death Note is a psychological not mystery. Higurashi IS mystery.Our little brains ashould be used for anime like death note and psycho pass not some anime higurashi, haruhi sizimiya.
R0NIT4RD said:
Well you are a fish so you might not understand
Wow, i am SO TRIGGERED by the insult of the Lord of the Fishes.Well you are a fish so you might not understand
One more thing:
| @TRC_Randy 1. because why somebody use their brains in weird stuffs when they could have been shown in an easier way without any chaneg in quality. 2. Excecution quality? Its an even worse answer than what you said in the earlier reply. Who is talking about execution quality? the execution in those anime perfect. they are visually aesthetic and thought provoking. I am talking about the mid- incidents that happen there and how they start half assed from nowhere and then end it with an open ending. 3.You said that it would bring a change in quality in the story telling and now you are ignoring you said that. 4. Well thats one sided way of seeing it. There were definitely mny mysteries about who was L at first and then who were the other death note users. Just because its viewed from the point of light and that we already know he is kira does not mean that there is no other mystery in them. Death note was complex definitely but still we had to use out brains. That is good. and one last point |
You all have to undrestand that Chainsaw man is impossible to adapt without CG. |
| It's more interesting to puzzle and interpret shit by yourself rather than being spoon-fed the "answer". |
| yo |
| "An idiot admires complexity, a genius admires simplicity. A physicist tries to make it simple; an idiot, anything the more complicated is, the more he will admire it. If you make something so cluster he can't understand it, he's gonna think you're a god cause you made it so complicated nobody can understand it." - Terry A Davis |
| Depends on the execusion there are shows which had a more complex narrative and they were good while others tried too hard to be complex and they failed.Also while not everything need to be complex to be good there is nothing wrong with a show having a more complex narrative and demanding from the viewer to think some things by himself than giving them a spoon-fed answer. Btw Your Name was never complex if anything its the most basic romance ever. |
pk8listSep 9, 2023 2:54 AM
| Not really if it gets too confusing......... |
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| The less i know whats going on the better the anime. |
| only if I am invested in the characters and story. If not, then no |
| People like different flavours for different reasons. I enjoy reading the ocassional accelerationist writing, but it'd be torturous if that's all there was. In saying that, I can understand why less improvisational thinkers, and/or those who wind down with anime would want to avoid stories that lean towards obscurantism. Classical prose is great, so I'm on board with simple stories, simple words, simple phrases, because complex things aren't always needed. Aren't needed, but are appreciated by those interested in it. Also, don't forget the atmosphere they're going for. It's different flavours after all. |
Reply to Isaiah-
"An idiot admires complexity, a genius admires simplicity. A physicist tries to make it simple; an idiot, anything the more complicated is, the more he will admire it. If you make something so cluster he can't understand it, he's gonna think you're a god cause you made it so complicated nobody can understand it."
- Terry A Davis
- Terry A Davis
| @Isaiah- Well said, and very true. Complex things are good to the point of reaching the level of continuous extreme convolution and internal chaos, resulting in viewers not really knowing what's happening and basically trying to fill the gaps with their own headcanons, equally complicated theories (in a crazy way), instead of just admitting that this or that series, despite having huge potential, has failed as a show due to overly complicated structure affecting other elements, which in consequence has resulted in a pretentious show that's hollow inside. Same criteria apply to simplicity. If something is simple, then it's perfectly fine... although, when a show tries so hard to be way more complex than it already is, or goes the other way and struggles to be even more primitive with each minute, then we have somewhat similar situation. Except the general audience likes to treat "complex, but kinda bad shows" as idols and kneel before them, while in the latter's case - to simply thrash those shows left and right, no matter if the critique is fair or not. |
Reply to TRC_Randy
R0NIT4RD said:
its not a mystery anime that people will use their brains into.
why must it be mystery anime?its not a mystery anime that people will use their brains into.
R0NIT4RD said:
the plot of your name was one of the worst and illoical
what's illogical about it?the plot of your name was one of the worst and illoical
R0NIT4RD said:
the way of portrayal of stuffs. There would be no change in quality and there is a high risk of getting low scores if it is too much convoluted.
then it's the execution quality. Still a change in quality.the way of portrayal of stuffs. There would be no change in quality and there is a high risk of getting low scores if it is too much convoluted.
R0NIT4RD said:
Good story telling means complex??? i did not know that.
no one said that. Complexity/simplicity are just two different approaches. One isn't automatically better than the other.Good story telling means complex??? i did not know that.
R0NIT4RD said:
Our little brains ashould be used for anime like death note and psycho pass not some anime higurashi, haruhi sizimiya.
btw Death Note is a psychological not mystery. Higurashi IS mystery.Our little brains ashould be used for anime like death note and psycho pass not some anime higurashi, haruhi sizimiya.
R0NIT4RD said:
Well you are a fish so you might not understand
Wow, i am SO TRIGGERED by the insult of the Lord of the Fishes.Well you are a fish so you might not understand
One more thing:
R0NIT4RD said: bruh you didn't answer my question. I asked WHY must it be mystery anime. Saying "weird stuff should not require brains" doesn't explain shit.because why somebody use their brains in weird stuffs when they could have been shown in an easier way without any chaneg in quality. R0NIT4RD said: well you saidWho is talking about execution quality? R0NIT4RD said: which translates "execution".the way of portrayal of stuffs R0NIT4RD said: in what way did those mid- incidents start half assed from nowhere?I am talking about the mid- incidents that happen there and how they start half assed from nowhere and then end it with an open ending. R0NIT4RD said: no, that's what YOU saidYou said that it would bring a change in quality in the story telling and now you are ignoring you said that. R0NIT4RD said: which i never meant it that way. So if you ask me; is complex storytelling in and of itself a good thing? No it is not. It's only good when it makes sense for example when you deduce the point of that complexity + link them altogether conveying some major point(s). That's what i meant when i saidGood story telling means complex??? i did not know that. TRC_Randy said: not as simple as "complex = good". There's actually more to it.I mean you oughta use your little brain once in a while right. R0NIT4RD said: which I NEVER SAID "there's no mystery in DN". The point is Higurashi's MUCH MORE of a "mystery" than DN is so your complaint on it is invalid.does not mean that there is no other mystery in them. R0NIT4RD said: repeats the Lord of the Fishes.You are a fish |
| The story doesn't need to be complex to be good all the times. Sometimes a linear simple story can be good if it is executed well. |
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.  |
| you claim there'd be no change in quality if they were simplified; i claim you're pulling this out of your ass |
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| if you think Evangelion is good because of the """complexity""" you fundamentally misunderstand what people love about that series. haruhi's complexity is a choice, you can watch it in order, or you can watch it like how it came out. Lain is an artistic piece that is built around leaving things for interpretation and challenging the audience into reading into. shows like it, or sonny boy, are made for this very purpose. does that make them automatically better? no, does it make them worse? also no. a show like platinum end also tries to be all deep and philosophical, but it fucking sucks. and something like wonder egg not giving all the answers killed the show despite pretty much all the episodes being great on their own. but the answer to your question is, no, complexity doesn't necessarily make something good. but it doesn't make it bad either. The first slam dun and perfect blue are two movies that I recently gave a 10/10 to. one is just a REALLY good basketball match with some well written backstories and character dynamics, and the other is a full on art house film with complexity in it's every part. some stories benefit from complexity, some don't. it just like everything else in writing, is a tool. you have to use it in a way that makes the story gain something from it. it has to be done well. so.... the correct yet boring answer is. if it's done well, it's good, if not, it's bad. |
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R0NIT4RD said:
because why somebody use their brains in weird stuffs when they could have been shown in an easier way without any chaneg in quality.
bruh you didn't answer my question. I asked WHY must it be mystery anime. Saying "weird stuff should not require brains" doesn't explain shit.because why somebody use their brains in weird stuffs when they could have been shown in an easier way without any chaneg in quality.
R0NIT4RD said:
Who is talking about execution quality?
well you saidWho is talking about execution quality?
R0NIT4RD said:
the way of portrayal of stuffs
which translates "execution".the way of portrayal of stuffs
R0NIT4RD said:
I am talking about the mid- incidents that happen there and how they start half assed from nowhere and then end it with an open ending.
in what way did those mid- incidents start half assed from nowhere?I am talking about the mid- incidents that happen there and how they start half assed from nowhere and then end it with an open ending.
R0NIT4RD said:
You said that it would bring a change in quality in the story telling and now you are ignoring you said that.
no, that's what YOU saidYou said that it would bring a change in quality in the story telling and now you are ignoring you said that.
R0NIT4RD said:
Good story telling means complex??? i did not know that.
which i never meant it that way. So if you ask me; is complex storytelling in and of itself a good thing? No it is not. It's only good when it makes sense for example when you deduce the point of that complexity + link them altogether conveying some major point(s). That's what i meant when i saidGood story telling means complex??? i did not know that.
TRC_Randy said:
I mean you oughta use your little brain once in a while right.
not as simple as "complex = good". There's actually more to it.I mean you oughta use your little brain once in a while right.
R0NIT4RD said:
does not mean that there is no other mystery in them.
which I NEVER SAID "there's no mystery in DN". The point is Higurashi's MUCH MORE of a "mystery" than DN is so your complaint on it is invalid.does not mean that there is no other mystery in them.
R0NIT4RD said:
You are a fish
repeats the Lord of the Fishes.You are a fish
| @TRC_Randy i need to mention it separately?? well me not suggesting to use brains in weird stuffs means we should use our brains in mysterious things. But the thing i mentioned are not even close to mysterious. 2. No.... 3. Execution is the overall showcasing of the story. The story does not change and its upto the producers how they will make it. Will they add two extra scenes? or will they make it aesthetic and all. I am not even talking about that. I am rooting to the molecular level: the story itself. 4. That is what happens and makes them convoluted. SEL and ergo proxy are the best in this. They cross limits. They start anywhere and end anywhere and later flex on the fact that they made an anime with open ending. 5. Just see the 32th reply of yours. 6. And I am not even talking about that. Why do you think i did not bring anime like perfect blue and paprika??? Point me out where i said that complex anime are not good . I have always mentioned unnecessarily convoluted ones. 7. There sure is more to it. That is what i am trying to point out. If anime was that simple then i would have rather rated every anime 10. 8. Bro you clearly said " Death note is psychological not mystery." Just look at your post.. Also what do you mean higurashi is only mystery?? Welp.. |
You all have to undrestand that Chainsaw man is impossible to adapt without CG. |
| Evangelion was definitely out their when I first watched it but I've grown to appreciate it and the End of Evangelion film. Personally it's can be sought of hit and miss sometimes it really works and can improve the narrative of a show look at LOTGH it's very complex but that adds to the show on the other hand Thier are shows which i watched that i didnt appreciate the messy complexity such as Ergo Proxy (do want to rewatch to see if I might have miss judged it) but i found it overally strange like the characters seemed to never understand what's going on. |
 This is for you Lady Haman! |
| If complex narrative is well done Like Eva , they provide a very rewarding watching expereince for me..When I think about complexity and find the well thought out meaning behind it, This provides me with a great satisfaction.. So yea, I kinda love these well done complex narratives that demands more of my attention and wants me to invest my time in it... Btw Your Name is definately one of those well done complex narrative, its a very unrewarding and shallow mess...The more you think the more plotholes and ametureish narrative mistakes you will find. |
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