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are immoral or evil characters forgivable if they are beautiful?
Aug 19, 2023 4:53 AM
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voted i do not know because sometimes i forgive the evil characters if they are sexy hot aka pretty privilege, lookism, halo effect

so how about you?

one example i can think of is Quinella of Sword Art Online i forgive her due to her sexiness lol
degAug 19, 2023 5:30 AM
Aug 19, 2023 4:59 AM
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Hmm, not really. It doesn't make them less guilty or something like that.
Aug 19, 2023 5:02 AM
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How about if you actually like the character themselves @deg even if theyre not hot???
" Kindness can sometimes lead you to trouble. "

Aug 19, 2023 5:06 AM
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Nope. They aren't forgivable if they have pretty privilege. Especially not this fella from Berserk.

Aug 19, 2023 5:09 AM
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Hitagi__Furude said:
How about if you actually like the character themselves @deg even if theyre not hot???


that would be better since you like their personality rather than their looks
Aug 19, 2023 5:10 AM
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Character design is storytelling whether it is designed to do in universe, or pander to the audience in the real world, the way a character is designed, tells the story of how the audience is supposed to engage with them. It reveals the assumptions that the creators have about who is going to consume the media that they make and how.
In visual language framing and aesthetics supersede the rest of the text—always, always, always.”

It is common knowledge, that pretty = good and ugly = bad. Audience will naturally feel more sympathetic to pretty character rather than ugly and authors know it. If a villain is pretty and a woman on top of that, them receiving clemency greatly increases.

Junko Enoshima is a perfect example. That bitch is pure evil with not a single redeeming quality and does evil for no other reason that she just likes it. She doesn't have any sappy backstory nor tragic past, that would at least slightly diminish her evil. Yet other characters tried to reason with her and even offered her a chance at redemption. She even has quite a lot of fans.
All this because she looks pretty.
Aug 19, 2023 5:13 AM
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I'm willing to forgive all the war crimes commited by Jibril.
Aug 19, 2023 5:28 AM
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Sadistically Evil as Erukarena from "Sourcerous Stabber ORPHEN" was, i still felt sorry for her when she "Died"

Such an Adorable little thing~










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Aug 19, 2023 5:30 AM
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one example i can think of is Quinella of Sword Art Online i forgive her due to her sexiness lol
Aug 19, 2023 5:43 AM

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MasterTasuke said:
Sadistically Evil as Erukarena from "Sourcerous Stabber ORPHEN" was, i still felt sorry for her when she "Died"





Never heard of this show since it looks like it came out when I was in diapers, but I like her hair. I don't see curls like this or the drill hair style as often anymore, and especially not with green hair either. It makes her look like she has little bamboo sticks in her hair. I'll add it to the list.
Aug 19, 2023 5:46 AM

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you remember how much bitch from tate no yuusha is hated? she's a hot piece of ass but everyone hates her like anything. same goes for me. i mean do i hate her? yes. but would i watch her getting railed? also yes.

The end of an era. Thank you Wit, Mappa and Isayama.
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Aug 19, 2023 5:47 AM
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I can differentiate both traits from another, like I can see that Eren is hot, but he's still a genocidial maniac.
Aug 19, 2023 5:59 AM

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Immoral evil characters can be ugly or average in looks, but I'll still like them if they are not annoying, they are significantly better than the rest of the cast, and/or they do things that I enjoy seeing
Aug 19, 2023 6:00 AM

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deg said:
Hitagi__Furude said:
How about if you actually like the character themselves @deg even if theyre not hot???


that would be better since you like their personality rather than their looks

Obviously theyre better!!!

Rather im asking,

Would you still forgive them if you liked their personality???

I cant help but think about this question because of my profile pic!!!
" Kindness can sometimes lead you to trouble. "

Aug 19, 2023 6:13 AM

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No, I do not, I can't like or forgive a character based on looks alone otherwise I would have liked Wolfram
Aug 19, 2023 6:17 AM

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Dulonkk said:

Never heard of this show since it looks like it came out when I was in diapers...


1998~2000, Two Seasons;

https://orphen.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Sorcerous_Stabber_Orphen
Aug 19, 2023 6:25 AM
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immoral or evil male characters are absolutely unforgivable if they are beautiful..
 

Aug 19, 2023 6:48 AM

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I concur, and conversely being ugly means being guilty by default. It's like being a linux user. No linux users allowed.
Aug 19, 2023 6:54 AM

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In real life, not at all.

In anime… absolutely.
Aug 19, 2023 6:58 AM

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Absolutely. As long as they are not annoying, beautiful characters can do whatever they want.
Aug 19, 2023 7:16 AM
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Hitagi__Furude said:
deg said:


that would be better since you like their personality rather than their looks

Obviously theyre better!!!

Rather im asking,

Would you still forgive them if you liked their personality???

I cant help but think about this question because of my profile pic!!!


ye maybe like im a big fan of some villains too like Thanos i think his personality is badass
Aug 19, 2023 8:53 AM
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CulturedNexus said:
Yes and it's true for characters that are not meant to be particularly evil either. The biggest example for me is Nami from One Piece. She has an absolutely shitty personality and is overall annoying, but she indeed is hot and looks beautiful. Even if most people don't admit or consciously understand it, that's why most fans tolerate her as much as they do. I bet she would not even be Usopp level of popularity if it weren't for the fanservice privilege. Boa is actually even worse than her, has no redeeming traits whatsoever and is in the top 10 in popularity polls just because of her looks. Just emphasized on Nami more because I think Boa is obvious, her fans often realize that she is a bad person and just like her because she's sexy or "hilarious", while the former often gets a pass for her antics supposedly because of her characterization when in reality it's all about her design as well, which is okay since it's fiction but doesn't come off as very honest to me either. Long story stort, yeah, people can like immoral characters because they are beautiful and do so all the time, happens irl too.


im not much familiar with One Piece but did Boa Hancock says she can do no wrong because she is pretty? i saw a meme about it here https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePunchMan/comments/15lzumd/fubuki_speaking_boa_hancocks_line_is/
Aug 19, 2023 9:01 AM

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Of course not lol.

Tell that to our friend Keyaru...



Aug 19, 2023 9:14 AM
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CulturedNexus said:
Yes and it's true for characters that are not meant to be particularly evil either. The biggest example for me is Nami from One Piece. She has an absolutely shitty personality and is overall annoying, but she indeed is hot and looks beautiful. Even if most people don't admit or consciously understand it, that's why most fans tolerate her as much as they do. I bet she would not even be Usopp level of popularity if it weren't for the fanservice privilege. Boa is actually even worse than her, has no redeeming traits whatsoever and is in the top 10 in popularity polls just because of her looks. Just emphasized on Nami more because I think Boa is obvious, her fans often realize that she is a bad person and just like her because she's sexy or "hilarious", while the former often gets a pass for her antics supposedly because of her characterization when in reality it's all about her design as well, which is okay since it's fiction but doesn't come off as very honest to me either. Long story stort, yeah, people can like immoral characters because they are beautiful and do so all the time, happens irl too.


There is a huge difference tho between people, who are doing atrocious things, or people who just don't float your boat personality-wise.
Aug 19, 2023 9:24 AM

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No. They should be judged for their actions.

Unless...
Aug 19, 2023 9:42 AM
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No absolutely not, a heinous act is never forgivable regardless of physical beauty.
Aug 19, 2023 10:04 AM

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Risa92 said:
CulturedNexus said:
Yes and it's true for characters that are not meant to be particularly evil either. The biggest example for me is Nami from One Piece. She has an absolutely shitty personality and is overall annoying, but she indeed is hot and looks beautiful. Even if most people don't admit or consciously understand it, that's why most fans tolerate her as much as they do. I bet she would not even be Usopp level of popularity if it weren't for the fanservice privilege. Boa is actually even worse than her, has no redeeming traits whatsoever and is in the top 10 in popularity polls just because of her looks. Just emphasized on Nami more because I think Boa is obvious, her fans often realize that she is a bad person and just like her because she's sexy or "hilarious", while the former often gets a pass for her antics supposedly because of her characterization when in reality it's all about her design as well, which is okay since it's fiction but doesn't come off as very honest to me either. Long story stort, yeah, people can like immoral characters because they are beautiful and do so all the time, happens irl too.


There is a huge difference tho between people, who are doing atrocious things, or people who just don't float your boat personality-wise.

You are correct, the latter is clearly worse of a crime.
Aug 19, 2023 10:21 AM

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Jonas-K said:
Of course not lol.

Tell that to our friend Keyaru...





Don't worry, I'll forgive her for you *wink*
Aug 19, 2023 11:56 AM

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Its not about forgiving them but more so about enjoying them, if you ask me. :)
Aug 20, 2023 3:36 AM

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Of course not... They shouldn't forgiven... Never >:(

Aug 20, 2023 5:10 AM

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100% and always, they're charismatic. like rising of incel hero's malty, should've been reformed or sedated in some way and waifu'd pero~
Aug 20, 2023 6:20 AM

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"are immoral or evil characters forgivable if they are beautiful?"

Duuuh...not to mention inevitably those get some sorts of redemption arc.

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