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May 15, 2023 9:25 PM
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I noticed things that are cgi automatically gets lots of hate ,but just tell me how you feel about it. It usually doesn't bother me.
May 15, 2023 9:31 PM
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It's a good thing. Everything uses some cgi nowadays. It's part of why modern anime generally looks smoother than old stuff.
May 15, 2023 9:32 PM
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In general, they do not look like they are part of the anime's world and therefore draw attention to themselves in a distracting way. That is bad.

Also they're often just ugly, low-effort models that look like they're made in SketchUp. See: cars, stationary fans, etc.

The good CGI doesn't get noticed much and is fine.
May 15, 2023 9:40 PM
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Depends on how it's handled imo. Some CGI in anime is good, like the CGI that's used in the 3D JoJo openings, or the CGI that was used in Chainsaw Man, some of it is bad, like the CGI used for Lang Wrangler and White Snake in the Stone Ocean anime, some of it is okay, but definitely could've looked better if the production wasn't so rushed, like the CGI titans in Attack on Titan's final season, and some of it is barely noticeable because of how fast the action is, like the CGI that's used in the Jibril vs. Schwi fight in No Game No Life: Zero. 
May 15, 2023 9:43 PM
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I don't mind it, especially with modern CGI which has been looking better. I think anime fans in general give CGI a hard time, but there's some great CGI anime out there.
May 15, 2023 9:44 PM
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I'd say the only time I actually somewhat preferred CGI over animation was during Vinland saga; it sort of gave the Vikings a chunkier feeling. Other than that CGI can be handed well (Chainsawman, Attack on Titan, that one idol anime, etc) but is often not and quite easily different to the rest of a series' animation/art style.
May 15, 2023 9:47 PM
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I don't mind it. It's animation technique like any other. It can look great if done right, or look awful if done badly. Just as everything, no matter the technique used.

AlwaysOnGo said:
I noticed things that are cgi automatically gets lots of hate ,but just tell me how you feel about it. It usually doesn't bother me.

Back in the day, anime Boomers hated digital 2D for being "soulless". Years later, new wave of Boomers have appeared and treats CGI in the same way as digital 2D had been treated in the past. Apparently, you don't need to be old to become "anime Boomer". You need to just share similar virtues, universal and typical for hive mentality painted with "old good, new bad" slogans.
May 15, 2023 9:48 PM
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No matter how advanced and great modern CGI, it would never beat the beauty of good ol painted cel animation ever.

May 15, 2023 9:51 PM
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I don't mind at all as long as it looks decent.
May 15, 2023 10:37 PM

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some of my favorite series use CG and they look more than fine in my book.

some companies are starting to experiment with motion capture CG. this is the case with Love Live Hasu and Pole Princess.
motion capture CG doesn't look as good as standard CG, but it has its charm because the movement of the characters on the screen are performed the voice actresses themselves, or by a professional (in the case of the pole dance performance). their movements are captured by a special software and turns them into anime. it does have some limitations, but maybe with time and as tech improves, motion capture CG might someday look almost as good as regular CG.
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May 15, 2023 11:55 PM

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Its not really about CG as a whole but the 3D part of it that people complain about. Personally i have yet to encounter a 3D series that looks at least on par with the 2D parts.

But then again this whole debate seems rather unneccessary anyway:
May 16, 2023 12:02 AM
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Sometimes it feels out of place but I barely even notice it when it is done correctly.

May 16, 2023 12:37 AM

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Some cgi are so good but some cgi are so bad
There it is. Thats my thoughts on cgi.





May 16, 2023 12:44 AM
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It doesn't bother me if it's done right and blended to perfection
 

May 16, 2023 1:59 AM

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I'm a fan of Orange and 3DCG in general. With that said, beautiful 2D > good 3DCG > ugly 2D.
May 16, 2023 2:14 AM

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CGI itself isn't a problem, the problem is how they use it and the CGI quality.
Nier Automata anime is a good example of how not to use CGI.
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May 16, 2023 2:14 AM

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3D characters in mostly 2D series usually suck. I'm more tolerant of 3D things that don't squash and strech interacting with 2D things.
100% 3D things are fine as long as they don't try to look like anime. I hate the 3D anime cel shaded look (or the anime vidya look, same thing).
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May 16, 2023 8:17 AM

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they generally look absolutely atrocious. But you would be lying if you say CGI hasn’t been improving
May 16, 2023 8:23 AM
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I think it really depends on the quality of the CGI. If it's not that noticeable and blends in well enough, I'm fine with it. (For example, I'm pretty sure the moving castle from Howl's Moving Castle is CGI, and while you can tell it's not 2D animation, it still fits in well enough that I don't have any issues with it.) If it sticks out like a sore thumb, then I'm not a fan. (Going to use a non-anime example to illustrate: The Little Mermaid III: Ariel's Beginning has a music box that's important to the plot be rendered entirely in CGI and it's awful. I know this is an incredibly random example, but it's what I think of first when I think about bad CGI.)
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May 16, 2023 3:38 PM
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Well done CGI like done by Comixwave, Studio Orange and Sanzigen is good.
May 16, 2023 3:43 PM

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The actual crux here is that most anime studios have no idea how CGI compositing works, look at the abomination that's Chainsaw Man for a perfect example of failed CGI compositing. On the other hand, when people who actually know what they're make CGI, it can come off great, just look at Ghost in the Shell and how the Tachikomas, despite being fully CGI characters, blend perfectly with everything else. As always with this kind of stuff, it's less the technique itself that's the issue, and more who uses it.
May 16, 2023 3:52 PM
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If itʼs done by Orange, Iʼm interested.
May 16, 2023 4:03 PM

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CGI is awesome, except when it's used for imitating anime, or is Japanese in general.
The former is just inherently uncanny, and I don't know why, but Japan doesn't even do CGI well for live action movies. Just look at the Death Note movies.
May 16, 2023 4:06 PM
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I've never cared about CGI and never understood how people can whine about it
May 16, 2023 4:16 PM

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I mean, it depends. There are plenty of really good CGI anime, and plenty of hand-drawn anime that have utilized CGI really well. Unfortunately, the ones that do it badly stick out more.
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May 16, 2023 4:38 PM

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Ionliosite2 said:
The actual crux here is that most anime studios have no idea how CGI compositing works, look at the abomination that's Chainsaw Man for a perfect example of failed CGI compositing.


I'm gonna call some massive bullshit on this one. Chainsaw Man's CG and composite for the most part is amazing. The fact you had most people not being able to tell 2D from 3D in a lot of scenes or outright labeling full 2D scenes as 3D just goes to show how near flawlessly blended it is.

If anything, JJK is an infinitely worse case of poorly composited CG. Just look at pretty much any fight scene that happens in the middle of a CG forest, be it Gojo vs Jogo, most of the Kyoto School Arc, and that one scene of Itadori running with Nobara. Atrocious.
May 16, 2023 4:47 PM

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I liked Gantz:O the CGI movie adaptation of the Osaka arc from Gantz so I think it can look good sometimes. I think people are just mad at cheaply made CGI which is like 90% of most CGI in modern anime.
May 16, 2023 5:27 PM

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Ionliosite2 said:
The actual crux here is that most anime studios have no idea how CGI compositing works, look at the abomination that's Chainsaw Man for a perfect example of failed CGI compositing. On the other hand, when people who actually know what they're make CGI, it can come off great, just look at Ghost in the Shell and how the Tachikomas, despite being fully CGI characters, blend perfectly with everything else. As always with this kind of stuff, it's less the technique itself that's the issue, and more who uses it.
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Even Orange, the best CGI Studio in japan, still can't blend the CGI perfectly
May 16, 2023 5:37 PM

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CGI can be good or horrible. It is a risky bet.

May 16, 2023 5:38 PM

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And mostly they fuckup and make it bad... eh...

May 16, 2023 5:44 PM

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dont hate it, but i just dont understand why some studio want to keep it at 8fps (or 12fps, i dunno)
not like extra frames gonna cost much extra man hours, only rendering time
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May 16, 2023 6:01 PM

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It's how the cgi is implemented. If it looks bad and jarring, it bothers me. Not to be confused by shows that deliberately make the cgi look bad.
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May 16, 2023 6:06 PM

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A lot of anime use cgi that most people don't even notice it 
May 16, 2023 6:09 PM

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Sucks, I hate it. Instead of piling shows onto one studio (MAPPA) and using CGI to cut corners maybe they should animate shows like normal people and not swamp their staff.
May 16, 2023 6:10 PM

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Anyone who isn't mindlessly consooming can tell the difference
May 16, 2023 7:01 PM

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I don't mind it too much. Still, not sure if janky looking 3d crowds are an improvement of the faceless unmoving still images they used to use.
May 16, 2023 7:42 PM

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iwansquall said:
dont hate it, but i just dont understand why some studio want to keep it at 8fps (or 12fps, i dunno)
not like extra frames gonna cost much extra man hours, only rendering time


This is a deliberate choice to replicate anime's limited feel, since it typically is animated in 2s (12fps) as well. Although it's not like being "smoother" equals being "better" - Ex-Arm is animated in 1s and it still looks dreadful.
May 16, 2023 7:43 PM

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Fine with it. Land of the Lustrous is a perfect example of how gorgeous it looked when it is executed well.

So yeah it all comes down to how the anime implements its CGI
May 16, 2023 7:48 PM

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To be quite frank, it usually looks pure shit, but at the same time, I can’t really be bothered by it since most anime use it pretty sparsely.

Never really understood why people complained so much about CGI because of that. It’s like the most “whatever” thing to me.
May 18, 2023 2:51 AM

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If I notice CGI then it's bad CGI. This is regarding motion. Most (if not all) CGI are used as a cost-cutting measure so they don't have to hand draw stuff. Unfortunately, this also means that the CGI we get is low effort. Much of the bad CGI looks as if they automated the animation in a tool like Blender which provides such an option. The problem with the automation is that the timing between the frames is uniform while motion in real life is non-uniform. Maybe it's also because of a mismatch in frame-pacing between 2D and 3D. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find an anime that has movement as good as its 2D counterpart.
May 19, 2023 2:26 AM

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In anime like "Tokyo Ravens" & "Chainsaw Man", it doesn't bother me either. It just bothers me in EVERY other anime. Because most other anime don't go the extra mile, to make it as seamless as possible.

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