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Jan 11, 2023 6:44 PM
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I was really looking forward to the anime Ayakashi Triangle and am very disappointed that there are only censored versions on the market, even at-x is censored so the ecchi genre doesn't make sense anymore. Unfortunately for me this title will be paused after Episode 1.
I hope the BD stays uncensored otherwise the anime series is dead to me. Kentarou Yabuki didn't deserve that for his masterpiece!
Is an anime with a good story and nice ecchi and fan service still possible nowadays? Is society becoming prudish? what's going on?
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Jan 11, 2023 6:49 PM
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Unfortunately, ecchi is moderated under current year global standards.  This is why the only way to usually watch such things uncensored with subtitles is piracy.  
Jan 11, 2023 6:49 PM
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Censorship completely ruins the point of hentai as well, and unfortunately, most japanese hentai animation is uncesnored to the point where you can’t even see anything. Really backwards traditionalist thinking on japan’s part.
Jan 11, 2023 6:54 PM
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I mean with cases of underage characters censoring things makes sense from a legal standpoint but otherwise it can be pretty dumb. That being said I have seen some funny censorship as my friend showed me that the censored version of Harem in the Labyrinth of Another World covers nipples and sex with a Windows Error pop up and it is EXTREMELY hilarious to look at
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Jan 11, 2023 6:58 PM
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You know, you could just simply not watch ecchi anime, as you wouldn't be missing out on anything by not watching it.

Jan 11, 2023 7:12 PM
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_-_Sally_-_ said:
You know, you could just simply not watch ecchi anime, as you wouldn't be missing out on anything by not watching it.


Not an option for me and many others, it's one of two anime genres (including hentai) that i can realistically watch and tolerate and not get bored outta my mind like with most other anime genres whereas censorship kinda ruins what little entertainment and enjoyment we could get from watching ecchi shows.
Jan 11, 2023 7:14 PM
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tchitchouan said:
_-_Sally_-_ said:
You know, you could just simply not watch ecchi anime, as you wouldn't be missing out on anything by not watching it.


Not an option for me and many others, it's one of two anime genres (including hentai) that i can realistically watch and tolerate and not get bored outta my mind like with most other anime genres.
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thank Madoka. I'd be worried if it said anything else.
Jan 11, 2023 7:17 PM
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epidemia78 said:
tchitchouan said:


Not an option for me and many others, it's one of two anime genres (including hentai) that i can realistically watch and tolerate and not get bored outta my mind like with most other anime genres.
"0 shared"

thank Madoka. I'd be worried if it said anything else.


Yeah, i don't share any anime with you, but i share 24 with sally so that's a decent enough number, mostly retro ecchi anime.
Jan 11, 2023 7:22 PM
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tchitchouan said:
_-_Sally_-_ said:
You know, you could just simply not watch ecchi anime, as you wouldn't be missing out on anything by not watching it.


Not an option for me and many others, it's one of two anime genres (including hentai) that i can realistically watch and tolerate and not get bored outta my mind like with most other anime genres whereas censorship kinda ruins what little entertainment and enjoyment we could get from watching ecchi shows.
Just take 300mg of spironolactone a day, and you won't care for ecchi anymore. :)

Jan 11, 2023 7:24 PM

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Your font pisses me off, but that aside, this has nothing to do with censorship, the creator obviously just wants to milk BD sales.
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.
Jan 11, 2023 7:24 PM
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_-_Sally_-_ said:
tchitchouan said:


Not an option for me and many others, it's one of two anime genres (including hentai) that i can realistically watch and tolerate and not get bored outta my mind like with most other anime genres whereas censorship kinda ruins what little entertainment and enjoyment we could get from watching ecchi shows.
Just take 300mg of spironolactone a day, and you won't care for ecchi anymore. :)


Well noted, thank you for the piece of advice. :3

i'd like to hear what my dear friend @ipreferecchi gotta say about ecchi censorship, sure he can give some enlightening insight into the issue better than me.
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Jan 11, 2023 9:29 PM

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rohan121 said:
Unfortunately, ecchi is moderated under current year global standards.  This is why the only way to usually watch such things uncensored with subtitles is piracy.  
But pirate sites also only have the censored version of Ayakashi Triangle.

So much for being the "superior" way to watch anime....
Jan 11, 2023 9:36 PM

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True. All ecchi anime should have rating R 18+ so it will not get censored.
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Jan 11, 2023 9:53 PM

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Y'all acting like ecchi anime is the only thing that airs or has aired censored. I think it's dumb too, but that's the price of continuing to air your stuff on tv.  I highly doubt that'll change anytime soon either, and I'm not surprised if they completely stopped airing uncensored versions in an attempt to sell more home releases. I guarantee this has absolutely nothing to do with any western meddling or some shit.
Jan 11, 2023 9:59 PM

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Sarana_1983 said:
I was really looking forward to the anime Ayakashi Triangle and am very disappointed that there are only censored versions on the market, even at-x is censored so the ecchi genre doesn't make sense anymore. Unfortunately for me this title will be paused after Episode 1.
I hope the BD stays uncensored otherwise the anime series is dead to me. Kentarou Yabuki didn't deserve that for his masterpiece!
Is an anime with a good story and nice ecchi and fan service still possible nowadays? Is society becoming prudish? what's going on?
I have to admit it was hard reading your post a bit because the font is a gray shade but I agree with what you said. I was disappointed to hear that Ayakashi Triangle was censored for all versions and have decided to wait on watching it and haven't even watched the first episode. I have lots of other animes to watch in the meantime and I'm also hoping the BD is uncensored.
Jan 11, 2023 10:19 PM

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your thread is same as saying "sun rises in the east"

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Jan 11, 2023 10:43 PM

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Preaching to the choir here. The whole point of ecchi is being risque and delivering fanservice without properly entering into hentai territory, but still straddling the line close enough that there's some erotic appeal. If you censor it then all you're doing is dragging it so far from this line that the previously mentioned erotic appeal is now negligible, to the point of irrelevance.


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Jan 11, 2023 11:00 PM

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just wait for the bd release, it's in a few months and fully uncensored
Jan 11, 2023 11:09 PM

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The best way to watch a show uncensored nowadays is only through piracy sadly...
Jan 11, 2023 11:09 PM
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Hmm yeah... I pretty much agree with you.
Jan 12, 2023 4:56 AM

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Censoring anything in anime is retarded. Why even bother licensing if you're not comfortable with showing the material as is.
Biggest thing that comes to mind is Tokyo Revengers and it's manji symbol. It's literally the symbol of the gang, which they wear constantly, and it was censored because someone uneducated might confuse it with Nazi swastika.

I'll go on a a rant and say there's nothing wrong with seein' the manji symbol and confusing it with Nazi swastika, if you're in the West you most likely only ever saw swastika as a bad thing, appropriate thing would be to go and research, learn what that and similar symbols mean in other cultures and so on, but with censorship you're being denied that opportunity because licensing companies think you're too fucking stupid to make that decision on your own.
Jan 12, 2023 5:41 PM
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That’s great news! Ecchi is getting out of hand, and stricter regulations are needed to protect your eyes.
Jan 12, 2023 5:46 PM

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I thought ecchi anime was more than a mere softcore porn (according to some ecchi fans), so the censorship shouldn't really affect the quality of ecchi anime.
Jan 12, 2023 8:09 PM

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NEMESIS95 said:
The best way to watch a show uncensored nowadays is only through piracy sadly...
Not with Ayakashi Triangle tho. 

Plus, I still haven't found a pirate site that streams the uncut uncensored blu-ray version of Goblin Slayer, the only one that has it from what've seen is Funimation. 
Jan 12, 2023 8:09 PM

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Fuck if I'm going to try to read that font family since I already have the text size at 120%.

Anyway. Sometimes I don't want to see full-on pussy; sometimes implied pussy is good enough; thus why I watch ecchi from time to time.

Jan 12, 2023 8:32 PM

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GreyStoneFlinger said:
That’s great news! Ecchi is getting out of hand, and stricter regulations are needed to protect your eyes.
Can you back to Twitter already? This charade of yours getting real old now. 
Deago said:
I thought ecchi anime was more than a mere softcore porn (according to some ecchi fans), so the censorship shouldn't really affect the quality of ecchi anime.
By this logic, action anime should be censored whenever there's a fight too then, right? Certainly wouldn't affect the quality right?
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Jan 12, 2023 8:34 PM

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_-_Sally_-_ said:
You know, you could just simply not watch ecchi anime, as you wouldn't be missing out on anything by not watching it.

You know, you could just simply not reply to this thread, as we wouldn't be missing out on anything by not reading it.
Jan 12, 2023 8:52 PM

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It's funny how you can't get a more honest blatant pure lolicon fanservice anime than Onimai, yet there are still so many dishonest closet horny lolicons pretending to watch it for the comedy or the plot.

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GreyStoneFlinger said:
That’s great news! Ecchi is getting out of hand, and stricter regulations are needed to protect your eyes.
Can you back to Twitter already? This charade of yours getting real old now. 
Deago said:
I thought ecchi anime was more than a mere softcore porn (according to some ecchi fans), so the censorship shouldn't really affect the quality of ecchi anime.
By this logic, action anime should be censored whenever there's a fight too then, right? Certainly wouldn't affect the quality right?
I am not defending censorship in any way, but censorship has no effect on the quality of a good ecchi series, because good ecchi isn't softporn; rather, it is about adult vulgar humour and sex jokes that don't need to be explicit to be effective.
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ateks said:
_-_Sally_-_ said:
You know, you could just simply not watch ecchi anime, as you wouldn't be missing out on anything by not watching it.

You know, you could just simply not reply to this thread, as we wouldn't be missing out on anything by not reading it.

Your opinion doesn't speak for everyone else's opinion. :)

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I know I probably sound like an old relic recently posting on this forum but it's to give Users a different perspective on things. 

An Anime like "Kekkou Kamen" would be the equivalent to an anime like "SUPER HXEROS" today. Back in 1991-1992 "Kekkou Kamen" wasn't even something the average western Anime consumer (keep in mind Anime consumers back then are like what one would likely be considered a hardcore Anime fan these days simply because they actively would spend hard earned cash to buy an obscure two episode OVA they never seen before simply just to watch it) could even get their hands on. It wasn't even till around 1995 when this Anime even got licensed for western consumption to begin with and almost a decade later from it's original run till it was even released on DVD in the west.

Now I can only imagine how much Users today would be whining about the Anime they get the luxury of watching these days if they would actually have to wait almost a decade to get their hands on a copy of it to watch at all, neither or less complaining about it being censored or not.
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_-_Sally_-_ said:
You know, you could just simply not watch ecchi anime, as you wouldn't be missing out on anything by not watching it.

the same can be said for the anime you gave a 10 to
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Dije said:
_-_Sally_-_ said:
You know, you could just simply not watch ecchi anime, as you wouldn't be missing out on anything by not watching it.

the same can be said for the anime you gave a 10 to

You do know that none of Sally’s 10s are ecchi series, right?
Jan 14, 2023 8:24 AM

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Deago said:
It's funny how you can't get a more honest blatant pure lolicon fanservice anime than Onimai, yet there are still so many dishonest closet horny lolicons pretending to watch it for the comedy or the plot.
You can absolutely get more blatant, the manga is relatively tame all things considered, and bath scenes are common even in wholesome shows. 
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Jan 14, 2023 9:25 AM

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While most cases are just the broadcast versions being aired, you also have issues with Crunchyroll who don't even leave the original censored version alone; which is the big issue, CR should not license an anime that they won't even leave the censored version untouched as it's very bad for business and overall scummy.


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While most cases are just the broadcast versions being aired, you also have issues with Crunchyroll who don't even leave the original censored version alone; which is the big issue, CR should not license an anime that they won't even leave the censored version untouched as it's very bad for business and overall scummy.
wdym by "Crunchyroll who don't even leave the original censored version alone"?
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Hoppy said:
While most cases are just the broadcast versions being aired, you also have issues with Crunchyroll who don't even leave the original censored version alone; which is the big issue, CR should not license an anime that they won't even leave the censored version untouched as it's very bad for business and overall scummy.
wdym by "Crunchyroll who don't even leave the original censored version alone"?
They censored more of Onimai, which CR got the censored version for.


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Hoppy said:
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wdym by "Crunchyroll who don't even leave the original censored version alone"?
They censored more of Onimai, which CR got the censored version for.
How did they censor more of Onimai? 

Cause Crunchyroll can only stream what they get from Japan, they don't have an editing team to change the look of every episode. 
Plus Onimai has multiple different censored versions, like the version from the German streaming service isn't the exact same as the one from Taiwan, so maybe you are referring to that? 
Jan 14, 2023 11:15 AM
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They could quite clearly ask for a none censored version but they do not, hence they support and demand the censorship. ie you censor someone partially clothed and it might seem they are naked.

The thing is censorship can often make things worse, hence the comedy in Gintama about them mosaicintg something that isn't dirty.
Jan 14, 2023 11:48 AM

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They could quite clearly ask for a none censored version but they do not, hence they support and demand the censorship. ie you censor someone partially clothed and it might seem they are naked.

The thing is censorship can often make things worse, hence the comedy in Gintama about them mosaicintg something that isn't dirty.
How are they gonna ask for an uncensored version when there is no uncensored version of Ayakashi Triangle out? 
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Hoppy said:
While most cases are just the broadcast versions being aired, you also have issues with Crunchyroll who don't even leave the original censored version alone; which is the big issue, CR should not license an anime that they won't even leave the censored version untouched as it's very bad for business and overall scummy.
You don't have any idea what the fuck you're talking about...
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.
Jan 14, 2023 1:09 PM

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That's why Free! is the best ecchi anime. No censorship in sight 😎 Unless you count all the nipples being absent...
Jan 15, 2023 12:23 AM
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How are they gonna ask for an uncensored version when there is no uncensored version of Ayakashi Triangle out? 


Don't you realise how easy it is to ask for a non censored version? They obvious have them for the BDs. The fact is they want the censorship.
Jan 15, 2023 12:31 AM
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Sell you white blood for the BDs then. You're gonna lose it anyways, so better make the utmost use of the act of releasing.
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QPR said:
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How are they gonna ask for an uncensored version when there is no uncensored version of Ayakashi Triangle out? 


Don't you realise how easy it is to ask for a non censored version? They obvious have them for the BDs. The fact is they want the censorship.
Just like how anime companies in Japan don't want the licensors to be releasing blu-rays right after a show comes out so JP fans don't import the cheaper western blu-rays. 
They don't want JP fans to be pirating anime and getting access to the uncensored version early on, they obviously want to boost blu-ray sales. 

So it's quite obvious that JP companies would not allow streaming services to stream the uncensored version even if they asked for it. 
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How are they gonna ask for an uncensored version when there is no uncensored version of Ayakashi Triangle out? 


Don't you realise how easy it is to ask for a non censored version? They obvious have them for the BDs. The fact is they want the censorship.
It's easy to ask for anything, that doesn't mean you're going to fucking get it. 
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.
Jan 15, 2023 7:35 AM
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hmmm.... is it cause they think how it will affect people.... (haha or i guess that dont make sense. since japans declining birtrate,) (thats a whole another issue https://youtu.be/JhHL4f7lVRc)  so one way to get it going is to show more skin i guess, not the opposite. why would they censor on TV for blyray? die hard fans or fans will buy anyway, do they think every fan is like VHS era and just tape and dont support, i dont think its like that lol (https://youtu.be/3St_HavMR4A give people the option they will give) i dont, i dont know lol. when i was younger i didnt like ecchi or fanservice all that much, (i mean if a 12-13 sees it, and when i found p lets say, first time i saw i was/got scared/frightened) so maybe that says something i dunno. now though i dont mind it very much.
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Whole point of an ecchi anime still airing on broadcast TV despite heavy censorship is to get Japanese fans to buy the series uncensored on physical media formats. Though if I recall, doesn't AT-X air such titles uncensored or at the very least, in a less censored form?
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So it's quite obvious that JP companies would not allow streaming services to stream the uncensored version even if they asked for it. 


Yet they allow that just on ATX.
Your shilling is a fail.
You've gone from "there is no uncensored copy" to "they have asked and were turned down".
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QPR said:
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So it's quite obvious that JP companies would not allow streaming services to stream the uncensored version even if they asked for it. 


Yet they allow that just on ATX.
Your shilling is a fail.
You've gone from "there is no uncensored copy" to "they have asked and were turned down".
Ayakashi Triangle is also censored on AT-X

If I'm shilling, then you are straight up misinformed...
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Whole point of an ecchi anime still airing on broadcast TV despite heavy censorship is to get Japanese fans to buy the series uncensored on physical media formats. Though if I recall, doesn't AT-X air such titles uncensored or at the very least, in a less censored form?

Exactly, which proves uncensored versions exist, in fact most air uncensored on ATX and CR still get the censored version which means the shills are wrong. CR ask for the censored version or don't ask for the uncensored version. Either way it's lame and they lose customers.

Their problem though.
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