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| The fact that Makima got promoted as a result of this incident and for some reason she knows their names has me thinking... What if she orchestrated all this so she can be promoted and gain more power for what she plans on doing? What if she was working with them that's why she knows their names, but maybe she betrayed them that's why they wanted her dead? Or maybe they don't know she's working with them or smth, idk. |
TouhouMetal said: Any power with no hint is an asspull. That's the most hilarious take I've seen today lmao. Also Himeno mentioned in Ep 5 that Kobeni got moves but I guess your brain was not on watching it. lol, is that not literally the verbatim definition? from wikipedia: A hastily fabricated explanation or contrived plot twist. from urban: This can also be used to describe when, in a TV show or movie, a character comes up with a never-before-seen power just in the nick of time, therefore winning the fight. King_KK said: Himeno told in episode 5 that Kobeni has the moves but she is timid and scared. In this episode we just saw what Himeno meant by that statement. Kobeni can fight, she just doesn't wants to be in this situation and wants to live a normal life instead. The writing is fine. It's just that you are dumb and can't remember previous episodes content. also if she had moves mentioned in episode 5, why did she not use them in the episodes when they would have been useful, like when she was so scared that she almost tried to murder our beloved mc? :( man that woulda been nice, more scared of a bullet than of a devil about to kill her and her party, weird, im sure its just cause the gun devil is more scary right? lol King_KK said: Have you seen Makima's eyes. That's all the hints you need. The only other person with wierd eyes like her is Power who is a Fiend. If you didn't realise it so far, Devil's can regenerate and heal via blood. The show specified that in the first episode itself. The show gave you all the hints. It's just that you are just so dumb that you couldn't connect dots unless the shows blurts things out for you. Don't blame the show for your own stupidity. ill hand it to you, i honestly didnt notice the eyes, but that is such a small thing, i get its a visual medium and all, but that probably works better in the manga tbh, but sure, ill concede here, but 1 small hint like this is definitely not "all the hints" King_KK said: What's wrong in liking bloody shit? The story has plenty depth for a shonen. It's not meant to be a philosophical novel. It is a show about a Chainsaw headed guy fighting and killing grotesque monsters. Read something like "The Brothers Karamazov" or "War and Peace" if you care about depth in your fiction. Don't search for insane depth in a cartoon adapted from some action comic book series meant for teenagers. nothing wrong with liking bloody shit, im all for it, but just because its bloody and amusing doesnt mean it should have a 9/10 and be void of criticisms... i get that its a show meant for edgy teens, but the fact that it takes itself overly seriously, or at least the fans of it do, is just so off putting, man this show where the mc wants to touch boobies and then gets carved up and comes back to life is the best anime this medium has ever seen, straight up not true, if we looked at it as a fun shounen blood fest like blood c or some shit, it wouldnt bother me, but the fact that so many people see this as like the second coming of christ, i mean come on man, its nowhere near that good tho, tbf dude, didnt need the constant streams of calling me dumb, makes you look like a 12 year old when im just asking why people like this show :) Tennebris_Method said: Not sure why you even bother explaining it to him/her. They're clearly someone who is used to conventional anime scripts, that don't offer twists turns and surprises. Person also thinks they're also objectively correct based off of the fact that they considers it all valid criticism. It's not worth the argument or explanation. But who knows hopefully they're willing to take a deeper look and converse about it. true, cant believe he would try to have normal communication with someone online, wild, also you too sounds like a 12 year old, keep it up, this is why this sites forums are memed so hard. surprises can be hinted at and and shown to the viewer in a better way than just blowing people up out of nowhere and killing all the characters, but yeah, random plot twists out of nowhere are great, guess thats why this show is almost a 9/10 according to the masses. clearly i dont think i am 100% correct, i often tell people to take my opinion with a huge salt shaker worth of salt, i was just wondering how people like this pile of feces, and now i have a fair answer, thanks to this man responding, which i appreciate, i still dont think the show is any good, but at least i can see where yall may be coming from, albeit a bit weak. PYIY_place said: when people want to go in hating shit they tend to ignore context cause of of the rage in their eyes and then want to comment making themselves look stupid at the end of the day. He should have kept his mouth shut yep, im stupid, just like all yall 12 year olds keep saying, glad and thankful you are providing meaningful insight here (edit: with your brand new account to boot lmao) |
frequency15kDec 8, 2022 11:05 PM
| Man, the episode felt very... smooth? flat? lightweight? but I don't mean it in a bad way, I loved it. I just, I don't know, I think I just got a really rough fucking but they talked nice to me. It's the best I can explain In spanish |
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| I am anime only. So at first hand we would think that Makima jave the contract with Crow but is way more than that, she should be an Infernal as well, could be both. So with the crow power she could bend reality and as much create ilusion too just like itachi in some way. Love makima just feel like author might ruin her at some point. Also how did she knew the names of tbe bandits(not the main ones?), well if weapon devil was plotting fear of guns to become stronger. Everything being about Denji is a little annoying. I also believe at some point makima will plan to people have more fear of chainsaw which will make denji stronger |
frequency15k said: tho, tbf dude, didnt need the constant streams of calling me dumb, makes you look like a 12 year old when im just asking why people like this show :) Your initial comment felt extremely arrogant to me so I replied harshly as well. If you want to engage in genuine conversations I would advise you to word your criticisms differently otherwise you would get rude replies like mine. frequency15k said: i get that its a show meant for edgy teens, but the fact that it takes itself overly seriously, or at least the fans of it do, is just so off putting, man this show where the mc wants to touch boobies and then gets carved up and comes back to life is the best anime this medium has ever seen, straight up not true, if we looked at it as a fun shounen blood fest like blood c or some shit, it wouldnt bother me, but the fact that so many people see this as like the second coming of christ, i mean come on man, its nowhere near that good The show doesn't takes itself too seriously at all. Half of the stuff in it is goofy as hell. Do you really think that puke kiss was meant to be anything but comedy? How about Power rambling about getting nobel prize or Denji going to sleep while being trapped by a devil. It was all meant to be comedy. Weather that kind of humor works for you or not is a subjective opinion but the show is definitely trying to be goofy. Also almost every shonen fandom hypes their show as the best show ever. It doesn't really mean much. I don't understand why you put other people's positive opinion of it as a genuine criticism of the show. You should judge the show for what it is rather than what people on the internet are saying it to be. |
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frequency15k said: TouhouMetal said: Any power with no hint is an asspull. That's the most hilarious take I've seen today lmao. Also Himeno mentioned in Ep 5 that Kobeni got moves but I guess your brain was not on watching it. lol, is that not literally the verbatim definition? from wikipedia: A hastily fabricated explanation or contrived plot twist. from urban: This can also be used to describe when, in a TV show or movie, a character comes up with a never-before-seen power just in the nick of time, therefore winning the fight. Apply this definition to any show with a power system or unexpected events and you have a truck load of asspulls. In CSM specifically, it's left unexplained intentionally for viewers' interpretation, adding to the mysterious aspect. |
| wow what the actual fuck just happened? i was expecting Makima to somehow wake up, and she actually did, yay the rest of the episode was nuts, denji fight, (did he actually expect the devil to not kill that guy?) , Makima power, and ofc, Kobeni showing off her ninja moves anyway, about Kobeni, in the 1st time i saw her, the screams and her attempt to kill denji seriously annoyed me, but watching that scene again on youtube the next day, i actually found it funny, and with this fight, Kobeni is starting to be a pretty cool character, so, like people said, we will all like Kobeni soon enough :p last thing, everyone is trying to quit their job with Makima, wonder if |
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| I guess there's no contest that this week's episode was Makima's big moment. The presentation of the full scope of her power is easily one of the manga's most memorable moments, and I think this adaptation's already recognizable style of build-up, storyboarding, animation direction and even soundtrack really managed to find a way to do it justice. Not sure if I liked the conclusion of the train sequence as much as I thought I would, though. I might have to add it to my shortlist of moments that truly struck me in their manga iteration while in the anime not as much, but it comes with the territory. Still satisfying in its own account. The temple sequence on the other hand is no doubt some signature top shelf stuff. Loved the small details, like the animation of the clothing folds during Makima's outfit change, them giving snacks to the prisoners (for some reason I can't stop thinking about this), the shot of the convict staring at the steps to the temple, the ominous music throughout the whole thing, and finally the cross-cutting during Makima's iconic hand gesture. I'm not even a big Makima fan and even so I felt immensely satisfied with the whole package delivered this week. I gotta admit though, the scene in which Akane takes a good look at the blood splats and says "a bullshit power like this is bound to be Makima" cracked me up real hard. If this statament is present in the manga I honestly didn't remember it at all, but it's a whole mood once you're used to the character in question like most of us are at this point. Funny as it sounds, but Makima aside, there's no denying that Kobeni was also an integral part of the main event. It's been a fun couple of weeks, watching from afar other people's unfavorable reactions to her initial presentation just to be blown away by a single action sequence as hard as they were expected to. Not only funny but a bit nostalgic as well, when I remember going through the same thing while reading the manga for the first time, even if not that long ago. All that aside, I really loved the animation in this sequence; that arm chop and subsequent gunplay really hit the spot for me. Can't shake off how much I was left feeling how fun this episode was, overall. Almost caught me by surprise as soon as I realized the credits were rolling. Looking forward to having this much fun throughout the final chapters of this small saga we're already so deep into. |
ProcHoliday said: Well, at least you're being honest with yourself. Especially since you're out here writing novels that absolutely no one is going to read. you clearly did, so what does that make you my man? lol TouhouMetal said: Apply this definition to any show with a power system or unexpected events and you have a truck load of asspulls. In CSM specifically, it's left unexplained intentionally for viewers' interpretation, adding to the mysterious aspect. yes, yes, that is exactly what i am saying lol, glad you can read. leaving things vague for the viewer to make shit up that the author didnt think of isnt good writing lol and definitely leads to ass pulls, as we see here, and in many other shounens King_KK said: The show doesn't takes itself too seriously at all. Half of the stuff in it is goofy as hell. Do you really think that puke kiss was meant to be anything but comedy? How about Power rambling about getting nobel prize or Denji going to sleep while being trapped by a devil. It was all meant to be comedy. Weather that kind of humor works for you or not is a subjective opinion but the show is definitely trying to be goofy. Also almost every shonen fandom hypes their show as the best show ever. It doesn't really mean much. I don't understand why you put other people's positive opinion of it as a genuine criticism of the show. You should judge the show for what it is rather than what people on the internet are saying it to be. maybe taking itself seriously was the wrong way of wording it, but to what you were saying, yeah, definitely not funny lol, not sure how making a character out to be a drunkard whore and then killing her off and expecting the audience to care is peak comedy, maybe edgy comedy is a better way to describe it than taking itself seriously. obv subjective as comedy is hit and miss like you said, but handling such subject matter the way it did is pretty yikes. tbh, i dont actually care that people like this show, thats fine, i like dumb shit i know is bad too, but at least i can call it for what it is and not come out swinging at people that dont like it. my main point in bringing up the popularity is how i subjectively grade things, something that is just dumb fun would be average, not a 9/10, but thats just me, take it with a grain of salt, my bad Tennebris_Method said: it doesn't have to be on the nose for what Makima can or can't do, she has been established as a mysterious character from the get go. Her mannerisms, as well as who she is working under being big wigs in congress. I'm sure 99% of viewers knew she wouldn't die when she was shot and would come back taking action and trying to contain the situation that was being presented. So you referring to her "blowing people up out of no where" I don't get because they had complete build up to that scene starting from her asking for convicts with life sentences or worse all the way to them getting to the temple. Even though you didn't know what exactly she was going to do you knew she was about to take some form of action with these steps. As far as twists go if you thought she was dead for good then I don't know what to tell you, guess you get surprised easily and believe everything you are told regardless of the context being presented. Lets not hope that is the case for other shows you watch though. Killing characters "out of no where" is subjective but this isn't exactly "out of no where", you seem to be used to long running anime where characters need 30+ odd episodes prior to dying or at least you make it seem that way. What would your excuse be for movies, or short form factor anime that has a lot of death? It's not even to say the world didn't establish this type of setting it was established that the job was dangerous from very early on and reinstated even when they were at the bar and one of the Devil Hunters rookies died... How many excercism/demon/zombie/slasher/Horror etc type of movies do you know where no one dies or is killed you would probably give those a pass to kill off characters because the setting is established but what about in anime? Why would anime need to follow a different formula all of a sudden? ok, so i dont necessary believe everything needs to be "spelled out" verbatim, however, outside of "her eyes being different" there is almost no indication that she would live a shot to the head and be able to blow people up remotely, she wasnt revealed to be a fiend or have a devil heart like denji or i guess samurai dude, i also didnt expect her to be dead either (kinda like how i obv know how somehow being cut in half wont be the end for our boobie obsessed mc), ive seen enough shounen to know how these kind of shows operate, but the fact that it feels more like an ass pull than something that was hinted at or developed is where i have an issue. and the whole convicts thing, yeah, you can obviously assume they will be sacrificed in some capacity, i got that before it was "spelled out," however, there was nothing about what makima could do period prior to that other than just her being a mysterious waifu bait. the "out of no where" bit, not sure i would honestly call that totally subjective. though i suppose from the asking for convicts as sacrifices, it could be assumed people would die, but the fact they were just remotely blown up, and everyone knew about makimas powers in the show, hence the oh shit moment "wait i thought makima was dead," because the moment it started, they knew what was up, why did they even mess with her in the first place, if they knew all the information about fiends and devils thriving off blood, why would they think they could kill makima in such primitive manners? just seems like a pretty glaring plot hole to me, but whatever i suppose and i know people die in horror, etc, sure, but i still expect it to make sense, the snake demon just coming out of nowhere and destroying everyone, then makima blowing people up remotely, that just was so random and jarring. and yes, i do tend to like longer shows that develop characters well enough on both sides, not to just have people die without me giving a damn, but i have seen many a show that are shorter that can develop a character well enough in 5-6 episodes or less, to the point where i care and it will stick with me for years to come, the fact that some of our main characters up to this point were offed by no name villains just makes me not care anymore Tennebris_Method said: This may be a case of you needing things to be spelled out for you because you're not looking at the surroundings or context of events which is unfortunate.... Kobeni had the moves to fight off other Devil Hunters/Humans as displayed from her perspective they were just "Shooters" not some crazy damn near immortal devil (Being the infinity devil) which clearly they already tried to attack and it grew bigger in size. Not to mention when she took action it was after the "shooters" killed her friend someone she clearly cared about. She even felt bad about trying to kill Denji, it was established she is timid this isn't what she wants to be doing while in action her expression was clearly sad and depressed. She didn't even fully kill the opposition she let them get away. Also why would she be more scared of a bullet than a giant immortal Devil to begin with? I chuckled a bit at your point there not gonna lie. I guess it's subjective what people fear more I guess at the end of the day. It just seems you aren't satisfied with the show (due to it not being for you or maybe you weren't paying attention with this one in particular) I took the time out to tackle some of your complaints or points anyways though. There seems to be a lot more but If you're willing to engage with these I'll break down the other points further. Lastly, I have plenty of gripes with the show myself I don't see it being perfect but I do find it an interesting take. as for this point, sure, its obviously easier to handle humans than devils, but she is a devil hunter, is it not literally her job to be able to fight devils and use those moves on them? which she definitely failed to do and put all of her teams lives in danger? not sure how her being timid makes up for her just failing to do her job and having no consequences for doing so, and also actively threatening members of the teams lives, regardless of feeling bad later, the fact is she did that. not sure exactly what you mean by i need to have this "spelled out." I see perfectly clearly what they are doing, i just dont think they are doing it well. lastly, if she is so timid and would rather be doing other things, she should just do that, they clearly have no issue making characters out to be whores (and yes im aware "kissing around" doesnt make you a whore, but when Himeno takes denji home and tries to fuck him, makes it pretty clear she does more than just the "kissing around" part) glad you liked the bullet vs devil comment lmfao and true, the show is entertaining, for what it is, but it is overhyped to hell and back, dont think its a matter of "not paying attention," but it just not providing the kind of development i care for typically, which is fine, like has been said, its fine for people to enjoy whatever. I appreciate the some of yall taking the time to actually discuss what yall like about the show, now i have a better understanding, like i said before, i still dont like the show and its unlikely my mind will change, and its unlikely my ramblings will change yalls, so it is what it is |
frequency15k said: TouhouMetal said: Apply this definition to any show with a power system or unexpected events and you have a truck load of asspulls. In CSM specifically, it's left unexplained intentionally for viewers' interpretation, adding to the mysterious aspect. yes, yes, that is exactly what i am saying lol, glad you can read. leaving things vague for the viewer to make shit up that the author didnt think of isnt good writing lol and definitely leads to ass pulls, as we see here, and in many other shounens Leaving things vague does not necessarily suggest good/bad writing. The key is if it's intriguing or compelling enough for the viewers, which in this case of CSM seems to be very successful, at least by my observation. |
| Makima's abilities makes her very terrifying and kobeni also stood out in this episode... Great choice of soundtrack especially reusing ED 3 in start was pretty badass. |
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| My respect for Kobeni just skyrocketed. She completely redeemed herself. I would have never guessed she would end up helping the mc like that. |
 Life is a despicable endurance race |
| the adaption is pretty good from manga to anime. mappa animators did a good job for this episode |
| Probably my favorite episode yet |
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| Kobeni is like - reject humanity return to monke! |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| I really didn't expect Kobeni to pull off a stunt like that. Makimas scene was well done. |
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| makima who? kobeni best girl? |
| This episode gave me chills! so many unexpected events! Kobeni scaredy cat is super capable eh!? and Makima is actually very sinister! ED by Aimer oh god! epic! 5/5. |
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| Broo, WTF is going on? Also Kobeni is badass? This episode made my Jaw dropping the whole episode. |
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| Makima's just ruthless, but what did he mean by 'how much of today did u anticipate' did she know what was going to happen? She doesn't seem like a villan or a good person. Her power seems cool tho ig |
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