| This question has been bugging me for a while. In general, if I happen to like a show, then it is good and I like it. But what do you guys think that the standards for a good anime are? For me roughly speaking, I think a good anime should - be somewhat entertaining, -have a decent plot -in general, rushed or made up endings degenerate the show. so, it'd be nice to have a decent and conclusive ending also. It should be free from -shounen cliche (that thing I find many times in naruto, bleach that that someone says "I refuse to die here."," I've friends to protect", blah blah and he gets pumped up and beats the badass guy) -so typical,obvious and predictable things that are used many times in many different anime aldy. Besides, -I dun care so much abt originality, it's nice if an anime borrows ideas from others and is improveed for the better. -Some loopholes and flaws are understandable. -Melodramas and emo things showing up sometimes is nice, provided there is a valid reason and it' not overdone. So, what are you guys' thoughts abt characteristics of a good anime? How do you define them? |
ForsakenArcherDec 8, 2009 11:00 PM
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| Short but compressed. Should not longer than 52 episodes. |
| your reason for an anime being good, are pretty much nonsensical Has to be entertaining has to have a good plot and has to have a good ending No shit really? I thought boring pace, poorly written plot, bullshit endings made great anime. |
| It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die. |
| These factors are just standard for me to enjoy Good Pace Unpredictability Character development or evolution Character Deaths that evoke emotion Originality I prefer shorter series with well thought out plots Good music and graphics add to the experience |
Jigero said: Stop being an idiot, some anime don't really have a plot or an actual ending, yet people skill like them.your reason for an anime being good, are pretty much nonsensical Has to be entertaining has to have a good plot and has to have a good ending No shit really? I thought boring pace, poorly written plot, bullshit endings made great anime. |
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| 'Good anime' covers a wide variety. You can't really categorize what would be good or bad because it depends on personal preference and the way the story is presented. In general though, a good anime for me should be something that keeps me interested, wanting to know what happens in the next episode, shouldn't be full of wimps and has to have a progress in the storyline at a rate that isn't too slow (till I get bored) or too fast (till I don't get what's going on). |
Jigero said: your reason for an anime being good, are pretty much nonsensical well, these are my personal thoughts and preferences. It's no surprise they mayb different frm u. Jigero said: No shit really? I thought boring pace, poorly written plot, bullshit endings made great anime. true, there may b some cases. |
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AlexisSolitaire said: 'Good anime' covers a wide variety. You can't really categorize what would be good or bad because it depends on personal preference and the way the story is presented. there're some anime that lack my standards but still I enjoyed them very much. |
| My own opinion: Those aren't 100+ episodes shounen shows. |
| To me, good character development/characterisation > everything else. So, if I like the characters, I like the anime. Having a good plot, story and stuff is nice, but there's a lot of anime with an excellent plot, but with a character cast I don't give a s#it about. Basically, that's why my favorite genre is slice of life - the characters are always the main focus of SoL shows. |
| Anything that entertain me really. Philosophy show are rather cool too like Kino's Journey, even Black Lagoon have the same feel sometimes. I hate it when show are like "I can kill you now, but we'll fight next time, so long!!!" I hate these, and they are quite common in shonen. |
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XxdoobxX said: My own opinion: Those aren't 100+ episodes shounen shows. You just made Luffy the great angry. Besides, I see the text in your sig as a salute to me. |
ForsakenArcherDec 8, 2009 4:15 AM
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| Indeed. A charismatic main cast or at least enough interesting characters is essential. I've seen few anime's do well without one. |
| the characters, humor... etc.. |
| Good story Good characters Entertaining pace For a good story I see something that is well written, so no flaws allowed here and originality is a must. The ending is irrelevant, as an inconclusive one can also be a part of the story. For good characters I mean those that are not only story propulsion, but also people. And for entertaining pace I mean something that does not make me fall asleep. |
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| My only requirements for a good anime is only one, no fillers and plot holes |
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ShinRA said: My only requirements for a good anime is only one, no fillers and plot holes lol thats 2 xD |
XxdoobxX said: Short but compressed. Should not longer than 52 episodes. The greatest anime of all time has 110 episodes... |
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| As it's been said before, it needs to be entertaining. Entertaining in the sense that it's fun to watch. Not all animes need a good story or plot, they just need to do something well, Bleach has excellent characters and fight scenes, but it isn't exactly the greatest when it comes to storytelling. What I'm getting at here, is that I need to enjoy it, it can be an extremely philosophical anime, with mature themes, excellent story and animation, but if it's boring, I won't go past episode 2. |
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| Entertainment. One does not necessarily need a great story to be good. So few anime have anything near a good story that if that alone were to decide, I'd have a lot less medium to high scores on my list. It all really depends on whether it manage to do what it is supposed to. Now, I wouldn't berate something like Queen's Blade for having a silly story and shallow characters, because those things don't matter. As long as it has lots of pantyshots and bouncy tits, it does what it is supposed to. A great anime on the other hand, needs good characters, good story and good animation, as well as a good soundtrack. Even if I love comedy series like SZS, I would never call them great. If being droll and easy entertainment is what something aims to achieve, it doesn't really have the potential of being great I'd say. |
| If you ask me.. people here are forgetting some of the things behind a really well made anime. Plot. Music. Script. Design. Cast. Plot. The show don't necessarily need a plot.. And if there is, it could be good or bad if you ask me.. I'll enjoy the show nonetheless. Music. Background music.. not many make notice of it.. but this is a MAJOR pole that is holding your show together.. If you watched a show without ANY background music please tell me what you thought of it. The placement of music.. rhythm, genre, bass, pitch, etc. Please remember this fact so people will be more aware of it T_T Script. Most of us enjoy most animes with weird character, with odd expressions in the words and a book full of unusual puns. But regardless how much we like it, it is still important for me that the person ain't talking out of character midway in the show. Keeping characters to the characteristics they got, is a hit for me. Character development is bonus for the longer shows. Or where the shows history is plotted over 1 or more years. Design. Its not that Design is of really importance to me.. But who don't go for the anime they think look best, based on designs? Well.. we will eventually get through them all.. xD Cast. OMG CAST?! why do you think there are people who are fan of the cast members? Cause they do a freaking good job. A Cast that fits the characters is +points. I'll leave it at this.. cause I know There is more I could set finger on.. But I'll leave that to possible other people who respects the aspect of a good anime.. |
| Good characters with their own special personality.. a clear and interesting story and ofcourse it should be enjoyable ^w^ for me characters are one of the most important thing.. if I dont like the main characters I won't like the anime very much either, though its enjoyable I probably wouldnt give it higher then a 7 or 8. I do not care much about the design and music, thats just a plus for me, though the design should not be horrible.. and as I said music doesnt matter to me but Bakemonogatari got me really annoyed because it plays the same music all the time :/ |
HawthorneKitty said: Jigero said: Stop being an idiot, some anime don't really have a plot or an actual ending, yet people skill like them.your reason for an anime being good, are pretty much nonsensical Has to be entertaining has to have a good plot and has to have a good ending No shit really? I thought boring pace, poorly written plot, bullshit endings made great anime. God your stupid, good anime is all relative. What you may think is bad, other people might think is good. How can a person think an anime is boring, poorly written and then like it. |
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jigiro said: HawthorneKitty said: Stop being an idiot, some anime don't really have a plot or an actual ending, yet people skill like them. God your stupid, good anime is all relative. What you may think is bad, other people might think is good. How can a person think an anime is boring, poorly written and then like it. If it's boring, poorly written then you don't like it. But if it's poorly written (no plot, no ending) you can still like it, he didn't say anything about being boring or enjoyable, only about having a plot and an actual ending. There are anime with no plot, (almost) every episode stands apart and is a filler. Take at sample InuYasha (has a bit of a plot though, but alot episodes stand apart.) or To Love-Ru, doesn't really have a plot either.Guess what, I still like them. And take at sample Claymore, does it have an actual ending? No, it has an open ending. And I still like it. So an anime can be plotless and have no actual ending and you can still like it. |
DymoniaDec 8, 2009 11:19 AM
Prayermad said: Leanne-Chan said: for me characters are one of the most important thing.. if I dont like the main characters I won't like the anime very much either this is interesting but a very limited opinion imo, characters arent always meant to be pleasant or likeable. sometimes a character is just a character, the bigger picture is of more importance. but maybe i misunderstood. imo, in general "the bigger picture" takes the cake first, but there are some shows I come to like mainly cuz of characters and the chemistry between them, eg, FMP, inuyasha and Spice and Wolf. |
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| Liking something is different from finding it good. Good, I think, is what is hard to make. We call good artists those who can do art which is hard to make. We call good writers those who can write well. We call good sprinters those who can do hard laps. Likewise, a good anime is something you would need talent, time, passion or a combination thereof to make. There are no particular area in which you have to be good. The notion of story being necessary precludes movies and shows which tends towards being visual art, painting-like (as rare as they may be). Good characters is vague (does well-done archetypes count as good characters or must they be deep?), but is likewise exclusive. And so on. |
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Prayermad said: Leanne-Chan said: for me characters are one of the most important thing.. if I dont like the main characters I won't like the anime very much either this is interesting but a very limited opinion imo, characters arent always meant to be pleasant or likeable. sometimes a character is just a character, the bigger picture is of more importance. but maybe i misunderstood. Yes I know it's not always meant to me pleasant or likeable.. ^^ But I just like anime with good characters more, doesn't mean when I don't like the characters I don't like the anime. I have anime I liked in my list but I didn't rate them higher than an 8, because I didn't like the anime enough because the characters suck, or are average.. and when an anime isn't really great in the big picture, I could still like it alot because it's characters.. I rated Naruto a 9, though the anime isn't perfect, you know, fillers, creators rushed animation ect. but because I like the chars alot it makes it my favorite anime n__n well, just my preferences :3 -freedom_gunboy- said: imo, in general "the bigger picture" takes the cake first, but there are some shows I come to like mainly cuz of characters and the chemistry between them, eg, FMP, inuyasha and Spice and Wolf. Yah, same for InuYasha for me ^w^ It gets kinda long-threated, but the reason I rated it a 9 is because I liked the characters and chemistry from Kagome and InuYasha alot =D |
DymoniaDec 8, 2009 12:08 PM
| In my opinion, a good anime needs to have great character growth. Nowadays, I get this impression that characters are becoming more single-minded. -.- The voice acting must be fitting. Music is important too. I pay more attention to the insert songs/music since it affects my mood mainly. It's vital that the right music come on at the right moment. I'm speaking generally of course. There's some anime which fall outside of my specifications and yet I still enjoy them nevertheless. |
Kaiserpingvin said: Liking something is different from finding it good. Good, I think, is what is hard to make. We call good artists those who can do art which is hard to make. We call good writers those who can write well. We call good sprinters those who can do hard laps. Likewise, a good anime is something you would need talent, time, passion or a combination thereof to make. There are no particular area in which you have to be good. The notion of story being necessary precludes movies and shows which tends towards being visual art, painting-like (as rare as they may be). Good characters is vague (does well-done archetypes count as good characters or must they be deep?), but is likewise exclusive. And so on. Very true, what you said about good and liking.. I think NANA is a great anime, though I liked it, but not very much.. guess it wasn't really my taste.. What are good characters? If you look to it like good and liking are 2 different things, then there are no good characters. Someone can think a character is good, when someone else thinks the char isn't. That's just the way it is. There are no general terms, no limits when it's good or not. It's someone's own opinion about what a character needs to be good.. same as what you said xD I call a character good when I like it myself, when it has a special personality, it's own atitude.. just a pesonality that interests me.. o.O and I guess the appereance counts a bit too.. not much for me though, I do not really care ..but I think you would rather chose a better looking character above a very ugly one(in your opinion if its good or a bad appereance xD) |
DymoniaDec 8, 2009 12:17 PM
Leanne-Chan said: But there will always be some more or less indisputable facts about a character, or a story for that matter. What are good characters? If you look to it like good and liking are 2 different things, then there are no good characters. Someone can think a character is good, when someone else thinks the char isn't. That's just the way it is. There are no general terms, no limits when it's good or not. It's someone's own opinion about what a character needs to be good.. same as what you said xD The way it is constructed, the levels of depth or complexity, how genuine the character acts and whatnot. Quality will usually be noticeable if one looks for it even if one likes or dislikes something. |
Baman said: But there will always be some more or less indisputable facts about a character, or a story for that matter. The way it is constructed, the levels of depth or complexity, how genuine the character acts and whatnot. Quality will usually be noticeable if one looks for it even if one likes or dislikes something. Yes, but then, what is the limit of it being good or not? what is the area? even with that facts about quality it's sometimes hard to say when it's good or not xD |
Leanne-Chan said: Of course it's not too easy. You'll have to compare it to other works that are commonly accepted as great.Yes, but then, what is the limit of it being good or not? what is the area? even with that facts about quality it's sometimes hard to say when it's good or not xD |
| In my opinion I really look forward to the characters in an anime. If they don't appeal to me, then I wouldn't like it. Also, it'd be nice if the anime wasn't so overly... melodramatic I guess. It makes it look like the creator tried too hard to make it a good anime and ended up failing miserably in the end. |
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| Well, it's a difficult question for such person like me. 1) The main criterion is emotionality: it must have normal revealing of emotions. For example, 5cm per second is pretty calm overall, though very emotional, but most of anime characters start screaming every moment they're even a little bit surprised or scared etc. These fake and unreal emotions just sucks. 2) General mood. It must not be funny, 'cause I don't consider 99% of anime humor to be fun. For example, 'cause of p. 1) and 2) I didn't watch Fullmetal Alchemist. 3) It is a controversial issue, but: realism and consistency | logic (if it's not abstract or surreal). I mean, if it's sci-fi, I'd not ask "How can that machine do that?", but I will ask "Who the hell gave control of this extremely expensive machine to a naughty child?". But there's an exception: in retro-sci-fi many unscientific things are ok (like shooting a sputnik with hand-made rocket launcher in Darkside Blues). 4) Relative simplicity. You can call me lame, but I think that too much symbolism and plexus is not very good for any work of art. IMO, Monster is ideal (complex plot that maintains intrigue until the end, but there's no innuendo at all) and Angel's Egg was too hard to understand (Oshii could explain more). 5) It must be out of cliches and fanservice (maybe just a liiiitle bit, like in Real Drive). So, enjoyment = emotions + mood (or characters + setting, if you like) + revealing of plot [to send some message, maybe]. Other numerous components depend on the author and his work. |
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Leanne-Chan said: jigiro said: HawthorneKitty said: Stop being an idiot, some anime don't really have a plot or an actual ending, yet people skill like them. God your stupid, good anime is all relative. What you may think is bad, other people might think is good. How can a person think an anime is boring, poorly written and then like it. If it's boring, poorly written then you don't like it. But if it's poorly written (no plot, no ending) you can still like it, he didn't say anything about being boring or enjoyable, only about having a plot and an actual ending. There are anime with no plot, (almost) every episode stands apart and is a filler. Take at sample InuYasha (has a bit of a plot though, but alot episodes stand apart.) or To Love-Ru, doesn't really have a plot either.Guess what, I still like them. And take at sample Claymore, does it have an actual ending? No, it has an open ending. And I still like it. So an anime can be plotless and have no actual ending and you can still like it. Sign, your wrong, your just stating is just a matter of perception. Every anime has plot, some plots are episode to episode, some ties all the episodes together, but none the less they all have plot and all anime has an ending, even if it has an "Open Ending" notice the key word there ENDING! And once again whats good is all RELATIVE. If your able to watch it and enjoy it, then it's not bad. What I was pointing out is his reason for anime being good makes no sense, he might as well said, In order for an anime to be good, it has to be good. If you don't enjoy an anime, then obviously not good to you. There isn't any factors that dictate if an anime is good or not. It's all about your perceptions and your enjoyment. |
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HawthorneKitty said: I think one of the best anime out there is Mushishi, and it pretty much has no plot whatsoever. Another one is Mononoke, which has no main plot, just a few arcs. Also, they're both pretty mysterious in general.Jigero said: Stop being an idiot, some anime don't really have a plot or an actual ending, yet people skill like them.your reason for an anime being good, are pretty much nonsensical Has to be entertaining has to have a good plot and has to have a good ending No shit really? I thought boring pace, poorly written plot, bullshit endings made great anime. There are many factors, that, combined in the right way make a good anime. For me an anime is good if it evokes emotions in me, keeps me on the edge of my seat, keeps me wanting more and/or is amusing/entertaining. Some factors of the anime don't really affect the overall quality. Some personal preference for me is that I can only watch anime with certain art styles and from a certain time. It's just hard for me, personally, to watch some of the older anime and anime with art that I don't think is appealing. After an anime get too long and repetitive, I lose interest and don't want to watch anymore. I also can't stand anime where the characters are complete idiots or totally clichéd. |
astronomicalDec 8, 2009 6:24 PM
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| a good anime should transcend you into a realm in which you cannot get to. it will affect you emotionally and mentally and will sketch a living embody of the things it was trying to portray. that being said there are also the technical side of things in which great anime that defines art and makes us go wow "that looks so freaking cool." i.e. Gurren Lagann, the art style and photography was really well taken cared of. one of those anime that expands our imaginations. the audio also brings in a big part in the show. having breathtaking music/VO totally sets apart epic anime to great anime. i.e. the VO on NHK was really good IMO, well portrayed emotions with some quirky dialogue equals epic win. the story was amazing too. im gonna be bias about this but anything with JAM project is epic. the passion and fire while they sing is just phenomenal. although one can argue that their music is stagnant. i beg to differ and find me group of musicians that have more passion and enthusiasm. that's all i have to say, these are the points that i believe really creates engaging, visually exhilarating, mind boggling anime. |
XxdoobxX said: Short but compressed. Should not longer than 52 episodes. I have to agree with you. I don't tend to enjoy many things that go over 24 or so episodes. Most of the things I like don't exceed 12 episodes. Things tend to get repetitive at the point when they start making too many episodes. Quality can suffer as well. Again not all but in general most. |
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JumblyNuts said: I have to agree with you. I don't tend to enjoy many things that go over 24 or so episodes. Most of the things I like don't exceed 12 episodes. Things tend to get repetitive at the point when they start making too many episodes. Quality can suffer as well. Again not all but in general most. In general, I prefer an anime not to be too long as well. The only long-running anime that I really like would be Gintama. Bleach just dragged on too much, pissed me off when I actually watched the goddamned Bount Arc and is boring. |
| study your genes...there are a lot of personality traits, it is endless and each has an individually unique combination, that characterizes what a person wants in or to the anime...try to know what i mean ergo the characteristics of a good anime is in the "PREFERENCE" word... oh one thing for sure...an anime watcher's age and maturity does matter... logical imagination, not to be confused with realism, is my best preference to a good anime... |
| Entertainment. Even the worst of worst anime can be great if they are entertaining. Dog Soldier is one of the best examples. Shit anime, but still it manages to be entertaining, therefore being a good anime. This can only go so far though. A show where a retarded girl can't even find the wings on her back can not be good, no matter how entertaining you find it. |
| If we talk specifically about what makes a good anime then it comes down to execution. If an anime is able to executed what it intends to do then i consider to be "good". An anime such as Lovely Complex isn't going to have as deep a plot as Legend of the Galactic Heroes, but it executes its premise of the story amazingly well and thus makes it good. It accomplishes it's goal of being a good romantic comedy. However just because an anime is terrible does not mean you have to hate it. You can very well like bad anime, just as long as you are able to understand it is bad(Such as me liking Code Geass, especially Code Geass r2). |
| The same as any good story but only with an animation twist. In other words quality animation that doesn't cut corners and fits the style of the piece in question. But anyway strictly for stories with visuals: -A captivating and intriguing plot that still entertains the viewer -Interesting and unique characters (a rare finding these days for anime at least) -Original character designs (another rare find) -Perfect characterization -Proper pacing that keeps the viewer enticed and interested -Themes, ideas, and storylines that are well defined -A score or soundtrack that fits with the piece. This makes more difference than you'd think. |
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