Does anyone here think that western animation is just so much better than anime (except for one aspect)?
| I'll keep this short and simple. DC Animation knows what they are doing. Check out Justice League War  Outside of that, you'd have to track down the likes of Heavy Metal: The Movie when animation was considered a form of art and didn't censor shit then like they do now. Some know what they're doing whereas others don't. Take RWBY (An anime inspired show) for example, Monty Oumm the creator passed between season 2 and 3, but after season 3, the series suffered, because they lacked it's creator which knew what he was doing. I think Westerners are losing the battle for creative content, which is why meme's are a thing nowadays. |
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Soshrii33 said: Name me one recent anime that has shown a sex scene on screen. 1.Mushoku Tensei s2 2.Heion Sedai no Idaten-tachi 3.Hige wo Soru. Soshite Joshikousei wo Hirou. 4.Kaifuku Jutsushi no Yarinaoshi 5.Isekai Maou to Shoukan Shoujo no Dorei Majutsu Ω 6.Shuumatsu no Harem Now you name me some western animation that are not censored. I'm grateful for it, in advance. |
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Attackonfiller said: Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I'm not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I'm not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu. I’m also not talking about Kono Yo no Kyūseishu Futarime no Rikudō Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan (which is capable of Enton Amaterasu, Izanagi, Izanami and the Tsyukuyomi Genjutsu), his two original Rinnegan (which grant him Chikushōdō, Shuradō, Tendō, Ningendō, Jigokudō, Gakidō, Gedō, Banshō Ten’in, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Tengai Shinsei and Banbutsu Sōzō) and a third Tomoe Rinnegan on his forehead, capable of using Katon, Fūton, Raiton, Doton, Suiton, Mokuton, Ranton, Inton, Yōton and even Onmyōton Jutsu, equipped with his Gunbai(capable of using Uchihagaeshi) and a Shakujō because he is a master in kenjutsu and taijutsu, a perfect Susano’o (that can use Yasaka no Magatama ), control of both the Juubi and the Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA and face implanted on his chest, his four Rinbo Hengoku Clones guarding him and nine Gudōdama floating behind him AFTER he absorbed Senjutsu from the First Hokage, entered Rikudō Senjutsu Mode, cast Mugen Tsukuyomi on everybody and used Shin: Jukai Kōtan so he can use their Chakra while they are under Genjutsu. I'm definitely NOT Talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after Alucard, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu and having eaten Popeye's spinach. I'm talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with his Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after having absorbed Alucard as well as a God Hand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit, with Kryptonian DNA implanted in him and having eaten Popeye's spinach while possessing quantum powers like Dr. Manhattan and having mastered Hokuto Shinken. Can he beat goku tho ? (Bottom texte) |
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| You already lost your credibility because of this thread and many of your other posts. You just seem to hate Anime in general if so, why did you even make an account? |
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| Anime is way better for me because it's not western's. |
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| No. Western animated shows are generally trash compared to good anime. They lack aesthetic beauty and generally have weaker and more contrived stories. So in short, no. Oh, and not to mention the western stuff is made by westerners, so you get all the filth that comes with that. Soshrii33 said: You are just a coomer who wants to see sex. Westerners on the other hand, censor ridiculous things like good jokes and reasonable opinions. Enjoy your politically correct porn.SofiaBulga said: I think western animation is split in cartoons (Dexter's laboratory), TV animation (Samurai Jack, Castlevania) and animated films (Disney and basically everything with high budget). I know I'm putting a lot of stuff under the same umbrella and that's not okay. However I'm looking at Adventure time and thinking even One Piece is prettier and One Piece is ugly as sin. I'm looking at the western 3D movies and thinking the Berserk trilogy is superior. I can't argue that Castlevania, Arcane, Primal and a lot I don't know of, are as good as anime. But western animation is still a victim of censorship. Not so much blood and violence, but sexually speaking. If the censorship is reasonable, then I'd rethink my position. But for now anime is still, not a step ahead, but a staircase ahead, of western animation. This is just incorrect. If anything anime is way more censored. Sure you got boob jiggles and stuff like that, but western animation actually shows people legitimately having sex. Name me one recent anime that has shown a sex scene on screen. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
Zach-chanMar 20, 2022 6:15 PM
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| Yeah you're right. Blues Clues alone solo's the entire anime universe |
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| I wanted to meet the person that created the myth that Invincible is good, that person is a genius and lots of people believed in their lie. Same thing happens with Arcane, what top tier animation can do... |
| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Perhaps, this is hell. |
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| Once the Chainsaw Man adaptation is out we can confidently claim that anime is objectively superior to western animation for all eternity. Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
Zach-chanMar 20, 2022 6:17 PM
| I love western animation just as much, and find a lot of niche content online for certain fandoms that aren't as well known. I look forward to the day were there is a forum dedicated to western cartoons, similar to MAL - I crave more geeks to chat about animation in general outside the realm of anime. |
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| You've probably been raised up in western culture. So yeah, it isn't a big surprise that you think western animation is better. You aren't an "objective" viewer. What is catered to a Japanese audience won't work for everyone. If it doesn't work for you, nothing implies that it is objectively worse than a western cartoon. And besides the animation and art aspect, sound design is generally more consistent in anime. Besides, I doubt you're qualified to talk about dialogue by reading subtitles, unless you're a native Japanese speaker and you actually understand the subtleties behind the dialogue. Don't get me wrong, I like western animation, but at times, it lacks a little flavour. There's simply more variety and creativity involved in anime as an industry as well as larger volume. It's just a different feel. Bojack Horseman or Archer, for example, aren't the things you go for when you watch anime. Sure, you could find something similar, but it's a totally different medium with different themes. They're dialogue and character focused, with nothing really going on in terms of the actual world. As for how much better anime could be produced with western writers, that is again, just an issue of subjectivity for the most part. Also, the anime industry generally faces a lower budget than western animation. They can't really provide shows of consistently high quality with what they're given, unlike western animation. If you think the professionals working there are any worse than those in the west, you're absolutely wrong. It's those standout shows that compete with the best of Western animation, like the FMAs or AOTs or the Steins;Gates. Again, you're also considering the whole of western animation to be without mid or just plain bad shows. There are plenty of terribly produced western shows with bad dialogue and development. It's just that we're only exposed to the best of the best. Again, most of this is just my opinion. My favourite animated shows include both western cartoons and anime, so it isn't like I'm trying to drag one down. Just trying to explain why your argument may be a bit naïve. Soshrii33 said: SofiaBulga said: I think western animation is split in cartoons (Dexter's laboratory), TV animation (Samurai Jack, Castlevania) and animated films (Disney and basically everything with high budget). I know I'm putting a lot of stuff under the same umbrella and that's not okay. However I'm looking at Adventure time and thinking even One Piece is prettier and One Piece is ugly as sin. I'm looking at the western 3D movies and thinking the Berserk trilogy is superior. I can't argue that Castlevania, Arcane, Primal and a lot I don't know of, are as good as anime. But western animation is still a victim of censorship. Not so much blood and violence, but sexually speaking. If the censorship is reasonable, then I'd rethink my position. But for now anime is still, not a step ahead, but a staircase ahead, of western animation. This is just incorrect. If anything anime is way more censored. Sure you got boob jiggles and stuff like that, but western animation actually shows people legitimately having sex. Name me one recent anime that has shown a sex scene on screen. This is perhaps the weakest argument I've ever heard. You'd rather see characters having sex than have uncensored dialogue...Down really bad. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
Zach-chanMar 20, 2022 6:18 PM
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Soshrii33 said: Lmao, aside from redo of healer, the rest have sex scenes that wouldn’t feel out of place in a pg13 film. Since I have more beauty than brains, I gotta ask, was that a diss, or were you showing approval. FrostFlame8514 said: ou'd rather see characters having sex than have uncensored dialogue...Down really bad. Dude I asked for recommendations, not you're self-righteous attitude. If you don't know any western animations with "uncensored dialogue", than shove off. You are of no further use to me, bye bye. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
Zach-chanMar 20, 2022 6:19 PM
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| OP was too afraid to engage with me in his last bait thread when I called him out so I'm not gonna waste time on him again. Baiters that pussy out of engaging when there's pushback are just pathetic losers. The actual chad baiters and trolls out there who live for the engagement are ashamed that OP is one of them. smh I just wonder how many bait threads it takes until the mods ban him. Knowing MAL mods he can probably continue doing it forever tho :/. |
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Soshrii33 said: Alcoholicide said: OP was too afraid to engage with me in his last bait thread when I called him out so I'm not gonna waste time on him again. Baiters that pussy out of engaging when there's pushback are just pathetic losers. The actual chad baiters and trolls out there who live for the engagement are ashamed that OP is one of them. smh I just wonder how many bait threads it takes until the mods ban him. Knowing MAL mods he can probably continue doing it forever tho :/. Well I can respond to it, I’ve just been getting so many messages lately. I have a life you know, can’t waste time just arguing with a bunch of weebs on an anime forum all day long when hundreds and thousands of people have been trying to debate me. Your comment got buried that’s all. But you can waste your time by making lots of bait threads. Nice. |
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Soshrii33 said: Alcoholicide said: OP was too afraid to engage with me in his last bait thread when I called him out so I'm not gonna waste time on him again. Baiters that pussy out of engaging when there's pushback are just pathetic losers. The actual chad baiters and trolls out there who live for the engagement are ashamed that OP is one of them. smh I just wonder how many bait threads it takes until the mods ban him. Knowing MAL mods he can probably continue doing it forever tho :/. Well I can respond to it, I’ve just been getting so many messages lately. I have a life you know, can’t waste time just arguing with a bunch of weebs on an anime forum all day long when hundreds and thousands of people have been trying to debate me. Your comment got buried that’s all. Then don't make a dumb posts on anime discussion board? If you don't have time to waste you honestly shouldn't be on social media at all. I come on here cause I am bored and have a bit of time to waste. Plus the fact we are comparing Mushishi to Arcane of all things lol smells of bait. Hey guys Die Hard single handedly destroys the Sound of Music in every aspect lol that comparison is so hilariously dumb. How can it destroy it in every aspect when things like the story can't literally be compared because they are entirely different genres. One is an action adventure steampunk title the other slow atmospheric supernatural mystery/SOL title. Those are not similar. Unless your MAL is updated you haven't even seen it so how can you make the comparison? Yeah I am not baiting guys lol I bet. Anyway I will respond to your dumb thread cause I am bored and need to vent. There hasn't been any recent Western animated shows that actually can beat out of some of the great peaks of anime like Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop, Mushishi, March Comes in Like a Lion, Showa Rakugo, Bakuman, Redline, Made in Abyss or Vinland Saga and I am talking about just the story. I mean honestly there isn't much that has beaten out past greats like the Justice League/Unlimited (older DC titles like Batman) or Star Wars Clone Wars. Will keep an eye on that re-adaption of Redwall though. Some of the examples you have given like Invincible probably would have gotten a 6/7 from me. Basically an average anime seasonal. I guess the violence is why it got hype because nothing else was that special? The only thing that was a stand out in that series was Omni Man and he might not be back in S2. Turning Red looks like another Pixar film like Inside Out which was a 8/10 good film but again can't compare to some of the greats in this medium. From what I am seeing on socially media that seems to be the case. Also Masters of the Universe: Revelation really? The series that relied on old nostalgia that pulled the rug out from it's fanbase that honestly is a good show lol I doubt it. As a former die hard SW fan I am tired of shit like that plus wasn't a fan of He-Man anyway. Edit: Even if I stick to 2021 Vivy, 86, Vanitas, Hathways Flash and even the bits I watched of Shadow's House were better than shows like Invincible. I wasn't a big seasonal watcher either last year. I would also rather watch shows like Yuru Camp too which got a sequel. You are on an anime discussion board most of us are die hards of the medium and talk and watch a lot because this is our favourite medium a lot of us aren't ignorant of what is coming out elsewhere either. I will give Arcane a look but literally nothing else you listed truly impresses me from the premise compared to say upcoming titles this year like Spy x Family, Chainsaw Man, Uzumaki or sequels like to Kaguya, Made in Abyss, Vinland Saga or MP 100. Arcane is probably the only really recent title that truly has impressed in terms of visuals and ambition. Yeah though more critical role DnD and other edgy superhero subversions like the Boys is what I should get excited for lol yeah no. Call us Weebs but honestly most of my favourite works are actually Western books, TV shows, Films and I honestly don't care about Japan beyond anime/manga. If the West actually was better at animation I would be a bigger fan but they just aren't. Things are getting better but it's hardly even close to the variety or quality I routinely see in this medium every single year even in "bad" years like 2020 there are interesting titles. |
BilboBaggins365Mar 19, 2022 2:27 PM
| I mean, I'd rather watch fairy tail than fucking Big Mouth |
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| This is clearly a Kremlin-backed troll trying to destabilize the western anime fandom. |
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YeeYeeAss said: I mean, I'd rather watch fairy tail than fucking Big Mouth I'd rather watch Legend of Korra over Fairy Tail and both shows are awful. |
Soshrii33 said: Alcoholicide said: OP was too afraid to engage with me in his last bait thread when I called him out so I'm not gonna waste time on him again. Baiters that pussy out of engaging when there's pushback are just pathetic losers. The actual chad baiters and trolls out there who live for the engagement are ashamed that OP is one of them. smh I just wonder how many bait threads it takes until the mods ban him. Knowing MAL mods he can probably continue doing it forever tho :/. Well I can respond to it, I’ve just been getting so many messages lately. I have a life you know, can’t waste time just arguing with a bunch of weebs on an anime forum all day long when hundreds and thousands of people have been trying to debate me. Your comment got buried that’s all. Lol, this is the awaited rebuttal from someone not wanting to waste his time. Soshrii33 said: Honestly the dialogue, storylines, characterization, representation, and worldbuilding trump pretty much any anime out there. Even cartoons that are considered mediocre over in the West (like Dota Dragon Blood) are better than even some of the most highly rated anime on this site. I mean I love FMA Brotherhood, but Arcane and Legend of Vox Machina are just objectively better than it on every level. The only aspects that Japan does better than the West are all audio visual related (excluding dialogue). Anime has way better character designs, backgrounds, and music compared to the extremely simple backdrops and designs of the West. Its a shame, because a show that looks like your average anime with western writers on board it would be a godsend. Would be the greatest show that ever exists. Imagine how good Promised Neverland would be if Western writers were on board. We wouldn't have the abomination known as season 2 now thats for sure. Maybe I'm growing up, but I cannot get back into anime any longer after watching western animation. Its just so much better in my opinion. I mean 2021 alone brought out many amazing western cartoons. Invincible, Arcane, Encanto, Turning red, Dota, Trese, vox machina, the boys diabolical, masters of the universe revelations, and so much more. What actually good anime did we get in 2021? Maybe Oddtaxi which pales in comparison compared to most cartoons that year. What do you guys think? Here, take some of this treatment  |
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Soshrii33 said: YAHOOGAYCHATROOM said: This has gotta be bait right? Anime is in decline but western animation is in a ditch, screaming at first aid responders for misgendering it. Does anybody actually watch American cartoons anymore? The whole medium feels like some weird incestuous industry backpatting thing with no actual real fans. Have you been under a rock this whole year? There have been millions of people praising the shit outta Arcane, Castlevania and Invincible, millions! I see more praise directed at those than any anime. If anything this is a sign that people are still enjoying western animation, so in a ditch it is not. So according to you the more popular a work is the more indicative of quality it is? Plus if we are going into the objective popularity aspect I doubt Invincible, Arcane or Castlevania would make $500 million dollars in theatres. Adult comedy films like South Park were not even able to hit $100 million granted with inflation it's probably a bit more. Western animation should be the most talked about medium in the English speaking community. The fact anime/manga is as popular as it is if anything indicates there was a large feeling of discontent within our own comic/animation industries to seek out foreign media. Deathko said: This is clearly a Kremlin-backed troll trying to destabilize the western anime fandom. Wouldn't it be the CIA? |
BilboBaggins365 said: Soshrii33 said: Have you been under a rock this whole year? There have been millions of people praising the shit outta Arcane, Castlevania and Invincible, millions! I see more praise directed at those than any anime. If anything this is a sign that people are still enjoying western animation, so in a ditch it is not. So according to you the more popular a work is the more indicative of quality it is? Plus if we are going into the objective popularity aspect I doubt Invincible, Arcane or Castlevania would make $500 million dollars in theatres. Adult comedy films like South Park were not even able to hit $100 million granted with inflation it's probably a bit more. Western animation should be the most talked about medium in the English speaking community. The fact anime/manga is as popular as it is if anything indicates there was a large feeling of discontent within our own comic/animation industries to seek out foreign media. To expand a bit on that... it's called animated cartoons. Not animated ugly-ass 3d characters. As a result, I haven't cared about western animation since a solid decade. Besides that dude who made Inside-out and a few other 10/10 Pixar movies, it's depressing. |
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Requiemofthewind said: You mentioning arcane i lost It's overrated as hell not even better than mushoku tensei Just because it's overrated, doesn't make it bad. Not that I've watched it, but While I am a fan of Mushoku Tensei, I also have to say Re: Zero is one step superior. |
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