| Strange to know that people really like korean/chinese “manga”.. dont even consider it manga but its alright.. |
| I agree. This site only allowed Japanese works when I joined it, and it should've remained that way. They only caved in, and added Korean and Chinese works due to how popular they are these days. |
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| I kind of like having Korean and Chinese anime on the site. I wouldn't even mind if they added Southeast Asian stuff. It's nice having MAL being a place where I can easily explore East Asian cartoons. Also, their fans definitely overlap. A lot of manga fans like manhua and manhwa too, and donghua (Chinese cartoons) have been getting more popular among anime fans as well. |
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| Yeah it should at least be classified as something else rather than mixed in with the Japanese stuff. |
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| I agree, they are neither anime or manga. unless they make another separated part of the site dedicated to Chinese and Korean stuff, there may as well be American comics/cartoons on here lol |
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| I mean, manhua and manhwa are already treated as "separate categories" from manga on MAL (see e.g. Top lists), what's more to ask? Also, Western-Japanese co-productions are not purged completely, it's case-by-case, afaik. Some are still there. |
| not my cup of tea, I'm neutral so far. as long as they don't disguise non japanese stuff as manga/anime then it should be fine. the artstyle is going to need a lot of time to get used too so maybe if something popular comes along to change people's stance. e.g the god of highschool - nose looks weird, and manhwa looks closer to comic drawing. |
| Agreed things that are not anime or manga don't belong on this site. |
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| conclusion: you are therefore racist |
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| It has Best Korean stuff on this site https://myanimelist.net/anime/18007/Dalam-iwa_Goseumdochi |
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| I don't mind it at all. There's tons of great korean/chinese anime/manga content like Solo Leveling or Link Click. They honestly deserve their spot on mal. Also Korean and Chinese content are similar sometimes and also take inspiration from Japanese anime/manga so I think that's why they're included. I'm not sure why western works aren't included, but it might be because their cultural differences to Japan are far greater than with China or Korea. |
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| Um fuck that idea. I wouldn't mind if anime like "Yu-Gi-Oh! Capsule Monsters" fet added. But keep Castlevania and other western crap away from MAL. |
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Kylinity said: conclusion: you are therefore racist Yeah, I also thought about it. It's okay to suggest things such as MAL focusing only on stuff created in Japan (so animes, mangas etc.), but the way OP worded it in their post gave just really negative vibes. |
| As much as I'd love to agree and be racist purist about it, a lot of the modern fans consume this stuff and it would inconvenience them so... and also, is Winter Sonata counted as an anime? or is it on the same category with Noblesse, Tower of God and God of High School? |
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| I don’t mind having hanguk aeni, manhwa, manhua, and donghua on MAL as long as they have their own separate categories and are not lumped in with anime/manga. Having more choices to choose from is still a plus in my view. |
| Nope. I like my korean and chinese stuff too much for them to be removed from my list. This is where asian animation culture thrives. I wouldn't mind if they included anime from other parts of asia instead of just focusing on east asian stuff. |
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| Trolling: Why the site has light novels? Let's just remove them too. They are from japan but it's just a book. Also... since we already started let's remove the manga too! After all the site is called MyAnimeList. Some other people should make some other sites for manga, novels, manhwa and etc. Here is only for anime! PURGE the site! Make MAL great again! ^ This sh*t sounds stupid, right. :) As well as the idea of removing all south korean and chinese series. |
| I completely agree. I’m sick of all that Chinese crap on this site. |
| Agreed. Increasing popularity or quality doesn't mean it should be added. At that point you might as well add stuff from all over the globe and become another imdb. Sure they're in separate categories but they are not the same as anime or manga, they just aren't. Like apples and pears. If they're gonna be on MAL then separate them completely or just don't add them. |
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| Most Manhwa are shit af but I really don't see an issue so long as its published physically. MAL covers all Asian media... |
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| Nope. This is a bullshit idea. kuik said: Trolling: Why the site has light novels? Let's just remove them too. They are from japan but it's just a book. Also... since we already started let's remove the manga too! After all the site is called MyAnimeList. Some other people should make some other sites for manga, novels, manhwa and etc. Here is only for anime! PURGE the site! Make MAL great again! ^ This sh*t sounds stupid, right. :) As well as the idea of removing all south korean and chinese series. Lol this ^ |
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| I sort of agree, but purging it would upset a large part of the user base. If anything, they should just work on adding a donghua and aeni tag on Korean and Chinese animation pages instead of having them mixed together with Japanese animation. |
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| I personally believe you people have way too much free time to consider this an actual concern. |
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| I believe I made the same request in the past. The mods have spread themselves too thin. |
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Shengud said: I sort of agree, but purging it would upset a large part of the user base. Who gives a shit? Western cartoons like Avatar not being in the database also upsets people. |
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Narmy said: True. I'm tired of seeing people submit Arcane to the database.Shengud said: I sort of agree, but purging it would upset a large part of the user base. Who gives a shit? Western cartoons like Avatar not being in the database also upsets people. |
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| I kinda agree. If they are accepting Korean and Chinese media and other stuff they should have considered some western shows too. But that's just completely taking away the 'anime and manga' factor from this site. They should either create a totally different section for Korean and Chinese stuff or just remove them all. I mean it's only fair if they do so. I highly doubt this will ever happen though. |
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| Idk what is up with these takes. MAL will not kneel to any significant database change unless you have a very good reason. I would agree some stuff MAL says can be dumb, to the point in which you question if anything is going well behind the scenes. But stuff like purging Korean and Chinese stuff, in which mods have spent countless hours doing, in which was thought about whether it should be allowed or not when the guidelines were first made. Doesn't seem like it will happen soon. |
| everything is okay til' they add the among us one shot + the nutshack |
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| very good suggestion, everything the chinese do is evil and subject to fake funding |
| Whether you like something or not shouldn't even be the issue. This site is called myanimelist. Since Anime and Manga are products of Japan anything else really shouldn't even be in it's database. I am not sure when or who suddenly decided at what point to start adding Manhwa and Donghua to the MAL database on this site but it does a disservice to the culture of anime when simply bunching things made in Korea and China in the mix. MAL doesn't add animation made in the west no matter how much it look like anime to the database and rightfully so. Which begs to differ why this site gives Manhwa and Donghua a pass? Makes me wonder what this site would decide to do if suddenly "Castlevania" was produced in china instead of the west or if they produced just one of the season at a Chinese studio. |
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Cladocera said: ColourWheel said: Sure, this site is called MyAnimeList, why tf there are manga here. Let's remove them. That's the logic you're using.Whether you like something or not shouldn't even be the issue. This site is called myanimelist. Since Anime and Manga are products of Japan anything else really shouldn't even be in it's database. I am not sure when or who suddenly decided at what point to start adding Manhwa and Donghua to the MAL database on this site but it does a disservice to the culture of anime when simply bunching things made in Korea and China in the mix. MAL doesn't add animation made in the west no matter how much it look like anime to the database and rightfully so. Which begs to differ why this site gives Manhwa and Donghua a pass? Makes me wonder what this site would decide to do if suddenly "Castlevania" was produced in china instead of the west or if they produced just one of the season at a Chinese studio. No one "suddenly" decided to add manhwa/manhua. They've been here from the very beginning because there are users who submitted them. And unlike OELs, they just didn't get weeded out. Allowing their animated counterpart is just natural course of action. Studio alone does not decide whether something is in the db or not. But sure, for the sake of argument, in your hypothetical scenario MAL will add that season and only that season. Allowing an entry of a franchise doesn't mean allowing the whole franchise. MAL's already doing this with stuff like Transformers or those Marvel shows. MAL separates Manga and Anime, they aren't bunched together as if it's a collective. I stand by my point that bunching Chinese and Korean Animation along with Japanese Anime does a disservice to the culture. This site should at least make the distinction between them if they continue to promote things not made in Japan. I would be all for it if they made Manhwa and Donghua their own separate sections from actual Japanese Anime. It would actually make it easier for users to find what they were looking for. As an example hearing someone calling "Shaonian Ge Xing: Feng Hua Xue Yue Pian" simply "Anime" is concerning. It's just as bad as someone calling the "Simpsons" anime. |
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| Nope! :) Hard disagree. |
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Cladocera said: ColourWheel said: MAL also seperates manhwa/manhua/manga so what's your point? You are the one brought up the "this site is called MyAnimeList" argument and that's the only reason I'm poking at it.MAL separates Manga and Anime, they aren't bunched together as if it's a collective. I stand by my point that bunching Chinese and Korean Animation along with Japanese Anime does a disservice to the culture. This site should at least make the distinction between them if they continue to promote things not made in Japan. I would be all for it if they made Manhwa and Donghua their own separate sections from actual Japanese Anime. It would actually make it easier for users to find what they were looking for. As an example hearing someone calling "Shaonian Ge Xing: Feng Hua Xue Yue Pian" simply "Anime" is concerning. It's just as bad as someone calling the "Simpsons" anime. MAL is not promoting anything. It's a database. Simply having stuff in it does not mean it's promoting them. By that ridiculous logic, isn't MAL promoting Japanese even more, considering the number of anime/manga is overwhelming compared to other stuff? Put that aside, if you actually look at the ACTUAL promotionals MAL has been doing, it exclusively comes from Japanese companies and Japanese works. How is putting things from this country side by side with things from that other country doing "disservice" to either of them? Unless... You're not saying Japanese culture is superior to other cultures or something, are you? That's pretty fucked up. You have not provide any good reasons to purge things beside "I only want Japanese stuff on here" which is stupid considering having Chinese and Korean work does not stop anyone from looking for the thing they want. That's almost the same as going into Walmart demanding them to remove other stuff because you're only looking for a hammer. And MAL lists Chinese stuff under "ONA" - Original Net Animation category so cut that "calling things anime" crap. I think you are more concerned about things being promoted or not. Does it some how make it inconvenient for people to not understand the difference between a Chinese knock off over actual Japanese Anime? I was simply suggesting they should separate animation made in China and Korea from actual Japanese Anime. This in itself would make things easier for users to find what they were looking for. Even for those who like watching Chinese crap. Walmart Doesn't place hammers in the Anime section of their store either. Also if you live in America, Walmart doesn't carry any Chinese animation at all. |
ColourWheelMar 1, 2022 9:38 PM
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| It's either remove everything non-Japanese or add English based animations as well because why leave anyone out? |
Cladocera said: ColourWheel said: Uh, what? YOU brought up the "MAL promotes things not made in Japan" thing. I simply respond to disprove that claim. How does that make me "more concerned" about it? Not quite sure what you meant with the second sentence though.I think you are more concerned about things being promoted or not. Does it some how make it inconvenient for people to not understand the difference between a Chinese knock off over actual Japanese Anime? I was simply suggesting they should separate animation made in China and Korea from actual Japanese Anime. This in itself would make things easier for users to find what they were looking for. Even for those who like watching Chinese crap. Walmart Doesn't place hammers in the Anime section of their store either. Also if you live in America, Walmart doesn't carry any Chinese animation at all. Doubt anyone was really having trouble looking for things and... actually you know what? Doesn't matter. You do you. Just one thing though, don't try bs me with "I simply suggesting" while you replied to a thread about purging stuff with "Since Anime and Manga are products of Japan anything else really shouldn't even be in it's database". C'mon. Just be upfront about it. Seriously take a chill pill. I have never advocated for anything to be purged and I am totally upfront about what I been suggesting. I think Chinese crap should be completely separated from actual Japanese Anime. MAL shouldn't mix the two together as if they are the same things. This site doesn't add western animation to it's database no matter how much it might look like Japanese Anime, so why should Chinese crap be treated any different? |
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Cladocera said: ColourWheel said: Well I'll take your words for it. But I'm not the one going around calling stuff "knock off", "crap", "cheap" simply because it's not Japanese and then making ridiculous claim like it does "disservice to the culture". And this is the third time I said this but MAL does not mix them together as if they are the same thing. Chinese animations are put in ONA category while most of the Japanese stuff is not. There are Japanese ONAs ofc, but that's their format, why put any where else. Manga/manhwa/manhua has their own categories. Sure you want donghua and aeni category, but being a Japanese purist and treating them like the worst thing ever that's dirtying the oh-so-precious Japanese works is not helping your argument in anyway. So... take a chill pill?Seriously take a chill pill. I have never advocated for anything to be purged and I am totally upfront about what I been suggesting. I think Chinese crap should be completely separated from actual Japanese Anime. MAL shouldn't mix the two together as if they are the same things. This site doesn't add western animation to it's database no matter how much it might look like Japanese Anime, so why should Chinese crap be treated any different? As for your second inquiry, I already answered that in my very first reply to you. Also there is a difference between "not allowing things in the first place" and "removing things that's already there". Put it to words, that's why "Chinese craps" and Korean stuff is still in the db. All you have been doing is ranting about what choice of words I been using. I really do think you need to take a chill pill. If it helps much, I will simply just start calling Chinese Animation as "shit" instead so you can get a clearer picture of what I think about it. All ONA stands of is "original net animation" which doesn't make any distinction letting users know which titles are Chinese "shit" or actual Japanese Anime titles. This site doesn't even let you filter out Chinese "shit" or Korean Animation out of actual Japanese anime when doing a genre search. It's completely a disservice to the entire culture of Japanese Anime. Simply mixing Chinese "shit" and Korean Animation with Japanese Anime normalizes the idea that it's all the same thing. Which begs the question why even call this site "myanimelist" anymore in the 1st place when it's not all exclusively Anime? What exactly makes Chinese "shit" so exceptional that this site allows it to be added to it's database? But for those who do prefer watching Chinese "shit" instead of simply just purging the database of everything that isn't Japanese Anime, at the least let users be able to filter the "shit" out when doing searches just like how we can filter out Ecchi or Hentai. |
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| @ColourWheel nobody will take you seriously if you can't keep the good tone. Calm your *the word you like to say*. Knowing how to express yourself and the choice of words is important in a conversation. |
| I disagree since a lot of Webtoons/Korean Comics/Manhua are definitely better than Manga. People should actually try it. Anime is just short for animation and also by that logic all Manga should be purged from MyAnimelist since it's definitely not anime. It doesn't make sense to make them still be here just because they're Japanese origin. That would mean we should add JDramas, Japanese Live Action as well |
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