anirudhtsuki said: I guess we're gonna pretend Sailor Moon, Cardcaptor Sakura, and Lyrical Nanoha don't exist... come up with better baity lies next time man lmaoooooOnly mainstream magical girl is the Precure series . . . Only popular one in recent was Madoka ruch goes against magical girl. It changed the magical girl genre for the worse making them edgier and sadder than then need to be. |
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Fario-P said: Yea those anime are defiantly not popular anirudhtsuki said: I guess we're gonna pretend Sailor Moon, Cardcaptor Sakura, and Lyrical Nanoha don't exist... come up with better baity lies next time man lmaoooooOnly mainstream magical girl is the Precure series . . . Only popular one in recent was Madoka ruch goes against magical girl. It changed the magical girl genre for the worse making them edgier and sadder than then need to be. |
| Puella Magi Madoka Magica did nothing wrong. |
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-Mention- said: thank you i'm glad someone else said it, i love traditional magical girl stuff yes but i also do love meguca and some similar stuffPuella Magi Madoka Magica did nothing wrong. also on that note, homura did nothing wrong |
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| Magical Girl isn't bad, its just that Madoka sucks so much that people who are new to anime think magical girl shows suck since Madoka is their only exposure to it. They just need to be exposed to real magical girls to understand it's magic (pun unintended)  |
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RinkanReich said: fair enough. That show gave the wrong impression of what a magical girl show is.Magical Girl isn't bad, its just that Madoka sucks so much that people who are new to anime think magical girl shows suck since Madoka is their only exposure to it. They just need to be exposed to real magical girls to understand it's magic (pun unintended) |
RinkanReich said: Magical Girl isn't bad, its just that Madoka sucks so much that people who are new to anime think magical girl shows suck since Madoka is their only exposure to it. They just need to be exposed to real magical girls to understand it's magic (pun unintended) Nanoha gives off the same impression though. |
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| I'd say there's nothing to do with quality, popularity is more related to how accessible are the themes, aesthetic and topics the anime or manga usually brings up, and generally Magical Girls are just specific, from a certain niche that will never be popular. |
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| It's targeted towards younger audiences and females, so its theme tends to not appeals to everyone. Its aesthetic is very specific to its genre (bright colors, pink and feminine) plus it has many cliches. It usually involves romance too. Maybe if we see the day of a Konosuba magical girl... since there's barely any fan service in magical girl. |
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Mykasan said: Maybe if we see the day of a Konosuba magical girl... You mean a parody? Pretty Sammy already filled that niche. |
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| I think it's both bad marketing and also the preference of most anime fans. Shoujo itself isn't that popular anymore so that also contributes to there being less of them in recent years. I don't believe it is the actual shows fault, but how people handle them. Most see them either as stupid kids shows or too edgy 4 me series with only brutality nowadays. Which is such a shame considering many shows like Precure,PMMM, Lyrical Nanoha, Sailor moon etc. have more nuance than those two arguments. |
Lucifrost said: Mykasan said: Maybe if we see the day of a Konosuba magical girl... You mean a parody? Pretty Sammy already filled that niche. Well, i mean a new one. Doesn't magical girl feel like the same thing over and over? |
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Lucifrost said: Ehh, I disagree. While the Nanoha series does get into some more mature themes, the overall narrative pattern is still optimistic affirmation. Madoka Magica discards that entirely.RinkanReich said: Magical Girl isn't bad, its just that Madoka sucks so much that people who are new to anime think magical girl shows suck since Madoka is their only exposure to it. They just need to be exposed to real magical girls to understand it's magic (pun unintended) Nanoha gives off the same impression though. |
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Mykasan said: Sorry to butt in the convo, but I've watched and read over 10 different magical girl series, and I have to say that it really doesn't... for me anyway lolDoesn't magical girl feel like the same thing over and over? |
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GlennMagusHarvey said: Ehh, I disagree. While the Nanoha series does get into some more mature themes, the overall narrative pattern is still optimistic affirmation. Madoka Magica discards that entirely. I completely agree with you on that, but both anime are dreadfully boring. |
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| Eh, I think it's just easy to perceive the mahou shoujo genre as having a very "seen one, seen 'em all" quality to it, and the target audience tends to skew very young, meaning older viewers could get real tired of it real quick. But some of the mahou shoujo that I've seen, like Madoka Magica and Princess Tutu and Kill la Kill, have been outstanding (and even shows that weren't up to that high level of quality, like Full Moon wo Sagashite, were still pretty great), so I don't think the genre itself being substandard at all. |
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| A lot of people I talk to are turned off from the start by all the frills and ribbons. That's one reason right there. It takes quite a bit of work to get people to look past that part alone and at least give the normal ones that arent like Madoka enough of a chance to see they all have thier own unique charm. Precure's far from the only popular one. Precure's just the one that never ends lol |
| Tell me op what is it in mg genre that makes it bad to you. Because the fact that mg fans struggle to list things what makes a mg show beside female character (and in some cases a male) can use magic (not always tho, since sometimes it's technology or something else completely that gives them power). While magical girls aren't as popular as they were before there have been shows/movies in 2010 decade that have had their spotlight when they aired. Flip flappers, Mahou shoujo ore, Sailor Moon crystal season 3, Kill la Kill, Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt, Little witch academia, Yuki yuna is a hero. I believe the selection has been broad enough that anyone could find a show they liked. |
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| iirc kill la kill is magical girls series |
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Fario-P said: -Mention- said: thank you i'm glad someone else said it, i love traditional magical girl stuff yes but i also do love meguca and some similar stuffPuella Magi Madoka Magica did nothing wrong. also on that note, homura did nothing wrong I would argue it actually did not only imo was it typical gen awfulness but also ruined the genre for a long while with it's "subversive" bs and so many other copied that terrible idea and for a while aside from long running stuff like precure and symphogear it looked a fairly balanced and well managed in tone magical girl anime was impossible to find |
RinkanReich said: Magical Girl isn't bad, its just that Madoka sucks so much that people who are new to anime think magical girl shows suck since Madoka is their only exposure to it. They just need to be exposed to real magical girls to understand it's magic (pun unintended) based nanoha is really awesome one of my favorites and yeah madoka sucks |
| sailor moon sold 46 million manga copies and you hear no one saying it's bad |
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old_geezer said: RinkanReich said: Magical Girl isn't bad, its just that Madoka sucks so much that people who are new to anime think magical girl shows suck since Madoka is their only exposure to it. They just need to be exposed to real magical girls to understand it's magic (pun unintended) Well Puella Magi Madoka Magica ( the "english" title) is one of my 4 19' so I certainly do not think it sucks. A glance at the MAL page suggests I am not alone. Madoka is a deconstruction of the magical girl genre, and is very dark. That said it does not need much exposure to the Magical Girl Genre to see that it is a deconstruction and what it is a deconstruction of. As such, if you thought Madoka (a deconstruction) sucked you would be more likely, not less likely,to look at what is was a deconstruction of. "deconstruction" just stop please if you're gonna use that argument it's not just because you have blank of woods as characters and make them just suffer for the sake of it with no real attachment to them and think that makes feel we should feel sorry for them doesn't mean that it's good in fact it's bad a lot of magical girls before had dark themes and fucked up stuff but yet balanced the tone and gave the characters actual depth like sailor moon,uta kata and nanoha |
| Magical Girl genre is quite popular in Japan and that's sole reason why we are keep seeing those shows. |
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| "Can you call a genre I personally dislike and which popularity I totally ignore, bad?" Well I do exactly that (for example I call battle shounen bad) but it's kind of a subjective thing and not everyone would agree. |
| No, it's definitely not a bad genre. |
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| Ummm... No... There were dark magical girls anime before Madoka too. I don't think that Madoka ruined the magical girl genre in any way, or affect it in any way. If Madoka affected something, it was the moe genre... a lot of authors realized after Madoka, that they can make dark and disturbing anime with moe girls in it. The magical girl genre honestly was a pretty slim one... there weren't all that many in the 2000's. I think the genre was already pretty much dead by the time Madoka appeared. There were a couple of good ones made, but there wasn't much commitment. Look at Nanoha. The first 3 were so great, and there was much content to the left to explore in that Universe. And what did they do? They made us wait for years for a new one, only to make that shitty sequel about her daughter, and make it moe and girls do cute things, killing all that made Nanoha great. Definitely wasn't a Madoka issue here... in fact, if they would have been influenced even a little by Madoka, maybe they would have made a better sequel. |
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| No, why would it mean that? Trends change with time. It's not like genres suddenly become bad. |
on petran79 said: They all mention Magica and deconstruction, as if Utena never existed, which in itself is a copy of Kaze to ki no uta manga Maybe they don't mention it because Kaze to Ki no Uta is not a magical girl. |
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| Magical girls aren't bad its just not for everyone I suppose. |
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| As an american, i genuinely can't name a magical girl series outside of Sailor Moon, Magical DoReMi and Cardcaptor Sakura. The genre doesn't get much attention in hte US. That's why it's unpopular, it's just not pushed. |
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| "Magical Girls" is not really a genre but more of a complex variation of a five man band which has managed to create a variety of sub-tropes isn't it? You can only put the band through so many different environments and situations before it gets stale. |
pacmanyo said: "Magical Girls" is not really a genre but more of a complex variation of a five man band which has managed to create a variety of sub-tropes isn't it? You can only put the band through so many different environments and situations before it gets stale. execution is the only thing that matters and if it's good it's good |
| If Magical Girl shows are unpopular because they are bad, then why is the decisively worse Isekai genre so popular? |
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| its a Zeitgeist genre. each genre has own era to define like 90's Mecha, 2000's Shonen, 2010's Moe, and 2020's Isekai |
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