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ixarising said: I didn't mind your post till you mention "VN character designs were fucking garbage". How dare you. The characters outrageous designs is what made Muv-Luv characters fun. Screw generic. No one needs generic. Bring the Yu-Gi-Oh! hair. I just feels cringe when I look at something like this lul Imo, they were fine in Extra and in 2003, but now they looks just nah and obviously need a rework for an another format |
kataneer said: ixarising said: I didn't mind your post till you mention "VN character designs were fucking garbage". How dare you. The characters outrageous designs is what made Muv-Luv characters fun. Screw generic. No one needs generic. Bring the Yu-Gi-Oh! hair. I just feels cringe when I look at something like this lul Imo, they were fine in Extra and in 2003, but now they looks just nah and obviously need a rework for an another format "give us more generic anime character from the generic anime character factory." |
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| Yea idc what visual novel fans are saying I like this anime. A lot. |
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kataneer said: ixarising said: I didn't mind your post till you mention "VN character designs were fucking garbage". How dare you. The characters outrageous designs is what made Muv-Luv characters fun. Screw generic. No one needs generic. Bring the Yu-Gi-Oh! hair. I just feels cringe when I look at something like this lul Imo, they were fine in Extra and in 2003, but now they looks just nah and obviously need a rework for an another format I don't think you've ever watched Clannad, because they did the exact same thing there and it worked (even if some people were complaining) because a generic character design makes the anime look forgettable and cheap but at least a unique one can be recognized easily. But to each their own, i can't force you to change your opinion. |
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Fax001s said: kataneer said: I just feels cringe when I look at something like this lul Imo, they were fine in Extra and in 2003, but now they looks just nah and obviously need a rework for an another format I don't think you've ever watched Clannad, because they did the exact same thing there and it worked (even if some people were complaining) because a generic character design makes the anime look forgettable and cheap but at least a unique one can be recognized easily. But to each their own, i can't force you to change your opinion. Well, I had a similar problem with Clannad (except the fact that I haven't played the VN, anime-only). However, I still gave After Story 9/10 because of its plot and heavy drama, and character designs didn't ruin the experience for me (at least because I had whole s1 to get used to them). |
kataneerOct 14, 2021 2:29 AM
| Ass introduction(seriously Extra/Unlimited got shafted royally smh), ass animation quality, the scene with Yuuko holding a gun at Takeru...there was no form of tension there like in the VN. Marimo, Meiya and Takeru sound off as fuck fuck their new voices. And Takeru getting winded going up the hill fuck off anime he had military training from Unlimited for fuck sake. That Mount Tengen flashback with Meiya is going to go over people's heads unfortunately hell this whole episode will and has. So in short trash episode 1/10. It'll get worse from here P.S Fuck this episode for giving best girl Meiya shit quality animation |
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Incognimous said: otakuops7 said: Indeed, 100% agree. Regarding the voices, I wonder why they didn't hire the same artists, Steins;Gate as far as I know had the same people so why not here as well? Lots of reasons. Cost, availability, some of the originals don’t really work anymore, future proofing for future installments in the franchise. Of all things, Takeru’s VA is a noob to the industry, yet they pick him for this adaptation that has a huge VN base. After watching this ep, I have no hope. Age, what the hell are y’all smoking over there? |
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| Woah, this episode would have been certainly a let down if I actually expected something good. It just confirmed that the MLA I loved won't be seen in this anime. Honestly, it looks really average and generic. If I didn't read the VN I would skip this because of how badly it looks. If it was Extra I would be fine with it because that one is supposed to be generic and nothing special, but there's no extra to make this one stand out. I won't call the anime outright bad yet (I will when it ends because most likely it will suck even more) but it's just really a average. The only good thing from this episode was that I remembered some scenes I liked (like when we could see how much has Takeru grown and how capable he is compared to Unlimited). Honestly it made me want to go reread that scene. (yes, that's the level of this adaptation. It just made me want to go and read the source.) Otherwise, I couldn't see the story that made me cry for hours anywhere in this. The tension, the emotions and all is lost. In Alternative we are supposed to be on the same page as Takeru, but there isn't any of that5. Truly, if the story and setting caught your attention you are better of reading the VN. I know not everyone has time, but it is definitely more worth it than this anime. I won't go and call it a masterpiece, but truly, there isn't anything the VN doesn't do better. Even the "animation" in VN which was equivalent to slideshow animation was more immersive. (and I'm not even talking about the real animation). Either way, we are here to see the downfall of this anime. |
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| Boring idk why animes give you a shit load of action and then give you a snorefest. |
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| Felt a tad rushed and definitely skipped over some stuff, but it could've been worse (like, way worse). I'm pleasantly surprised they were able to capture the other characters pretty well even though I definitely would've liked more screen time for all of 'em, of course. The voice acting for them was solid too (they are not the original from the VN in case you were wondering). I guess since Ayamine Kei is my favourite character, I am able to detect the subtle differences in the voice acting in the anime and visual novel. Speaking of the visual novel, I'm glad I read the trilogy (and I actually remember a good chunk of it despite it being almost a decade since I did lmao). It makes me curious how the writers will handle certain scenes that hit me like a few in this episode |
BlichoBoy said: When you barely remember the previous Muv-luv animes and never played the VN and begin to read this discussion posts and then the only thought is "da fuck they doin ova der". This episode made me wonder, Muv-Luv have a positive ending? well somewhat... Takeru returns to Extra(like) world and some characters moved to extra. But alternative world is still fucked and most of cast is dead... |
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kataneer said: I really don't understand all of the hate (maybe because nobody cares about this anime except VN fans who will hate any anime adaptation no matter what) I knew this was the case when I saw all the hate this was getting before the 1st episode even aired. Total Eclipse and Schwarzesmarken had no preexisting fanbases because their source materials have no English translations. kataneer said: ixarising said: I didn't mind your post till you mention "VN character designs were fucking garbage". How dare you. The characters outrageous designs is what made Muv-Luv characters fun. Screw generic. No one needs generic. Bring the Yu-Gi-Oh! hair. I just feels cringe when I look at something like this lul And this is why I have no interest in playing Alternative. Clannad looks better. |
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Liquidacid said: I'm pretty sure all they are shooting for with this is an advertisement boost for the franchise since they are working on Muv-Luv Integrate. Oh and Project Mikhail and Project Immortal. lol Many other fail to see this... Even Kouki Yoshimune said its completely impossible to animate the whole Muv-Luv story |
ranoa said: eh, he said it would take about 600 episodes.... I would still watch it! Liquidacid said: I'm pretty sure all they are shooting for with this is an advertisement boost for the franchise since they are working on Muv-Luv Integrate. Oh and Project Mikhail and Project Immortal. lol Many other fail to see this... Even Kouki Yoshimune said its completely impossible to animate the whole Muv-Luv story |
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| It felt rather rushed to be honest. I felt we were jumping from one thing to another very quickly. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| So this is where the real stuff starts, we got a Groundhog Day situation happening with Takeru and I wasn’t expecting it, but I like it. And as someone that’s brand new to this series, I didn’t feel lost after they explained where we are in the story, didn’t really understand some of the people in the crunchyroll comments that were confused lol. OP and ED were both good too, I especially like that ED. I can see why VN fans are very upset but I can say I’m enjoying this at least, only thing I can say I didn’t like was some of the animation and the faces weren’t all there sometimes. |
JanPri said: Well, this was ridiculous. So the whole UNLIMITED and EXTRA (60-70 hours of gameplay) have been reduced to a series of "flashbacks"... Which are really just still pictures Who is this thing targeted at, anyway? It's certainly not anime-only friendly, with the story being already 50% done, nor longtime-fans friendly, with the adaptation featuring a whole new cast for characters we already have pre-established voices for and the fact it omitted everything before Alternative Your statement reminds me of bullshit Rewrite anime. I haven't played Muv-Luv series and I can tell this anime is, unfortunately, hard to follow if you have not played the visual novel. It seems they are jumping the gun. |
TennoujiOct 14, 2021 2:27 PM
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| Well that episode was a dogs dinner. I love the way the MC just rock up at a military base with his time travel and other dimension story which was totally believable. Couple of minutes later he's in training. |
| Ok dropping it is, the original plot looks interesting and very good for me to just skip it. And takeru's character also have some unique angles which tells about the developments he have received. Will probably come back after finishing all 3 games |
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Lucifrost said: kataneer said: I really don't understand all of the hate (maybe because nobody cares about this anime except VN fans who will hate any anime adaptation no matter what) I knew this was the case when I saw all the hate this was getting before the 1st episode even aired. Total Eclipse and Schwarzesmarken had no preexisting fanbases because their source materials have no English translations. And this is why I have no interest in playing Alternative. Clannad looks better. Clannad VN design isn't really that better either. And it didn't bother me much cause i enjoyed the story. One of my main grit with some is that they complain the VN base on their preference or because its not anime looking enough in design etc instead of trying to give the story a chance. |
ixarisingOct 14, 2021 4:27 PM
ixarising said: Lucifrost said: I knew this was the case when I saw all the hate this was getting before the 1st episode even aired. Total Eclipse and Schwarzesmarken had no preexisting fanbases because their source materials have no English translations. And this is why I have no interest in playing Alternative. Clannad looks better. Clannad VN design isn't really that better either. And it didn't bother me much cause i enjoyed the story. One of my main grit with some is that they complain the VN base on their preference or because its not anime looking enough in design etc instead of trying to give the story a chance. The designs are anime as fuck, but I'm still not gonna give muv luv a chance because I'll have to go through 50 hours of sol harem shenanigans before alternative and the designs are H-O-R-R-I-D. Also, character designs can look good and have soul at the same time. |
LeonhartAugust said: ixarising said: Clannad VN design isn't really that better either. And it didn't bother me much cause i enjoyed the story. One of my main grit with some is that they complain the VN base on their preference or because its not anime looking enough in design etc instead of trying to give the story a chance. The designs are anime as fuck, but I'm still not gonna give muv luv a chance because I'll have to go through 50 hours of sol harem shenanigans before alternative and the designs are H-O-R-R-I-D. Also, character designs can look good and have soul at the same time. I actually like Clannad more than Muv-Luv but even i won't say that the VN design are good okay. The VN design are harsh as hell. The characters their design itself are nice, but color tone the game producer studio chose is painful to eyes. And that is for a VN that is 80 hours long. |
ixarising said: The characters outrageous designs is what made Muv-Luv characters fun. I feel a better solution would have been to modernize their overall look while keeping some of the quirkiness. But they absolutely had to bring the designs to modern standards as the old ones didn't particularly age well. Personally, I never cared for Chizuru's old design much, but she looks pretty hot now imo. On the other hand, there some shots where Yuuko doesn't look too good and whatnot, but I feel that has more to do with overall art quality than her new design per se. I think the Tsukihime vn remake is a great example of old characters with successfully modern looks. But even in that case, I've seen some old fans bitching about it. |
ixarising said: I think Muv-Luv probably is one of the VN that has the most design/artwork changes. Great point. I haven't read the spin-offs, but I've seen images and they clearly have different designs too. |
| This is the only muv luv I've watched and I can tell you it's not hard to follow but everything in here is just bullshit.... Oh hey I have information from the future better go for training and have some basic lecture on something that is completely irrelevant in fighting BETA... Episode one: Brutal mecha anime. Episode two: Time traveler isekai harem training compilation. Am I watching the same show? insert[confused guy meme here] Episode one > two, fight me. |
Animaniaig said: Sark_Morgan said: This is the only muv luv I've watched and I can tell you it's not hard to follow but everything in here is just bullshit.... Oh hey I have information from the future better go for training and have some basic lecture on something that is completely irrelevant in fighting BETA... Episode one: Brutal mecha anime. Episode two: Time traveler isekai harem training compilation. Am I watching the same show? insert[confused guy meme here] Episode one > two, fight me. Then it is hard to follow because you have no idea why any of this is actually happening and why it's important. Aliens invading earth isn't hard to follow, everything else was pretty laid out what's happening we have a Isekai time travel dude.... ixarising said: Just out of curiosity, who did you think the MC was when you're watching episode 1? That aside, i just want to nitpick on this section "have some basic lecture on something that is completely irrelevant in fighting BETA...", this comment is equivalent to there's no war going on right now, why do we need armies, bombs, tanks etc. They're in an army, there's no guarantee that the enemy will always be BETA. "Si vis pacem, para bellum", I get it, but my point stands they are 3 months away of enacting a plan to leave all humans behind on earth and you get a dude from the future that can layout almost everything that will happen and all missions or whatever he has been on, dude should be debriefed as long as possible and strapped into a robot afterwards, they are training to get into robots asap not to be officers. The mc for the first episode was the girl with purple hair and glasses... I'm pretty sure we followed her the whole time. |
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Ppl die when they're killed (which is true in this universe) Even tho you're right doesn't mean you're correct. I am the mechanic of the Tactical Surface Fighter Steel is the form factor and electricity is my blood I have created over a thousand parallel worlds Unknown to Death, Nor known to Life. Have overcome the suffering to create many possibility Yet, those hands will never hold anything So as I pray, Unlimited Alternative Works. |
| time loops and parallel universes combination Meiya is sexy hot in that drinking fountain scene but the rest of the 2D animation in this episode are bad |
ixarising said: deg said: time loops and parallel universes combination Meiya is sexy hot in that drinking fountain scene but the rest of the 2D animation in this episode are bad The fountain scene just made it even more painfully obvious to me. Does the anime producer want her breasts to be big or to be medium. at least they are prioritizing the fanservice scenes lol |
| The opening is a banger |
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