| I'm just an anime only, I see lots of people whining about AOT endings that don't match their wishes, some even petitioned for the ending to be remade. Even worse, I saw on Instagram that there were news of fans making their own version of the ending, isn't this the same as disrespecting the mangaka? so I want to ask is it really that bad? because I also don't want to spend my time watching S4 Part 2 later if the ending is so bad. |
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| No. It's even worse and it kills rewatchability. Yukino_chan99 said: I saw on Instagram that there were news of fans making their own version of the ending, isn't this the same as disrespecting the mangaka? Why? Is all fan fiction disrespectful then? |
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| You are an anime-only. You don't have to worry about people crying and pissing their panties. In short, don't let them change your expectations. |
| No it wasn't that bad. At least not that much worse than the whole final arc. Everyone with a brain saw that Isayama has written himself into a corner. But you know how fickle AoT fanboys, eh I mean ex AoT fanboys are. On one day they hail AoT as the greatest piece of fiction that has ever graced us, the other day they think Isayama is a hack. |
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| It's not bad at all, don't worry. In fact it's very satisfying in the end and ended properly, no cliffhanger or anything |
| It is obviously my opinion but, the ending is...... bad. I mean bad. Isayama had a potential to write a FAR better ending than this but this was really unexpected. But if this is what isayama wanted, then I will gladly accept it. Its a 6/10 from me. I think you are referring to AOTnR. I don't think its disrespectful. Isayama also claimed that he liked to read fanfics of his story since it showed how much the audience loves shingeki no kyojin. You can still watch it if you want a closure to the story. |
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Theo1899 said: it doesn't matter if it's just fanmade, but isn't making their own version of the ending without the author's permission isn't it the same as disrespecting the author?? it just my thought.No. It's even worse and it kills rewatchability. Yukino_chan99 said: I saw on Instagram that there were news of fans making their own version of the ending, isn't this the same as disrespecting the mangaka? Why? Is all fan fiction disrespectful then? |
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mr_modest said: Well I really don't want to be like that, but when I saw that there was a lot of hate received by the Mangaka after the AOT ending, I had some doubts, that's why I asked.You are an anime-only. You don't have to worry about people crying and pissing their panties. In short, don't let them change your expectations. |
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WutIsDis said: Thanks for your opinion, I might still give it a chance after hearing your opinion.It is obviously my opinion but, the ending is...... bad. I mean bad. Isayama had a potential to write a FAR better ending than this but this was really unexpected. But if this is what isayama wanted, then I will gladly accept it. Its a 6/10 from me. I think you are referring to AOTnR. I don't think its disrespectful. Isayama also claimed that he liked to read fanfics of his story since it showed how much the audience loves shingeki no kyojin. You can still watch it if you want a closure to the story. |
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mr_modest said: You are an anime-only. You don't have to worry about people crying and pissing their panties. In short, don't let them change your expectations. ↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑this |
| Its not even that bad, people are just exaggerating as its the worst. Its still a 5-6/10 ending. Just dont expect a masterpiece. |
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Yukino_chan99 said: Theo1899 said: it doesn't matter if it's just fanmade, but isn't making their own version of the ending without the author's permission isn't it the same as disrespecting the author?? it just my thought.No. It's even worse and it kills rewatchability. Why? Is all fan fiction disrespectful then? No there's nothing wrong or disrespectful with finding flaws in a work and suggesting improvements. Although I admit I haven't read any of the fan fics so I don't know if they actually improve the ending. There's no way they're worse though that's for sure. |
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Yukino_chan99 said: No! this is not disrespecting mangaka this is normal, because author have their responsibility for satisfy the reader when author start writing story. so when reader not satisfied with author ending and they remake that author work that doesn't mean they disrespect the author but on the contrary mean how many people follow and support this series but in the end get betrayed.I saw on Instagram that there were news of fans making their own version of the ending, isn't this the same as disrespecting the mangaka? that the reason why lot of people dissatisfied and angry. (need more explained?) |
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| If you turn off your brain and just focus on the emotional impact, you'll enjoy it. My opinion of the ending got worse (I mean from slightly below average to definitely below average) after I heard that Isayama was looking online for ideas, while drawing the last few chapters. It does look like he came across some forums and suddenly changed the scope of the story to please those fans. |
ShinAn said: Not cliffhanger doesn't mean the ending quality is good and It's not bad at all, don't worry. In fact it's very satisfying in the end and ended properly, no cliffhanger or anything you actually can see how author already tired enough because he not even tried in making good and unexpected ending. btw in the first place it's normal for some series ending not have cliffhanger. it's just nature thing like clean your dish after eating. |
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| If your an anime only just enjoy the next season don't worry about the manga readers. It's not the greatest ending but if you enjoy AoT it's not my place to ruin it for you. I would ignore the manga readers that are still whining and just be excited for the next season and when the ending happens judge it for yourself. |
WutIsDis said: @CyborgSaber How was the ending for you? please add the spoiler tag so that others can't see. |
| I bet it's not that bad. My guess is fans being salty about popular ship being sunken. |
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ShinAn said: It's not bad at all, don't worry. In fact it's very satisfying in the end and ended properly, no cliffhanger or anything yea i completely agree. i don’t think it’s bad at all and i rlly liked it, and i’m not gna let what anyone else says change that. wasn’t a 10/10 ending or anything but how often ARE endings 10/10? i’d say it was about an 8 personally, but i rlly loved it and it made me so emotional. the extra pages aren’t that bad either. i mean the story has ended now, they don’t rlly matter too much.. so OP pls don’t worry!! i think you’ll enjoy it, especially as you’re an anime only. i was anime only too until the end of s4p2, and have no regrets reading the manga as it was the best reading experience of my life, but i think manga readers have a tendency to nitpick and overanalyse a lot more than anime onlies do. i have no doubts that MAPPA will animate everything beautifully.. so i’d ignore the criticism, that’s what i’m doing now. there’s no point stressing before you’ve even seen it. and even if you don’t like the end, there’s some amazing action scenes or plot twists that you’re bound to love!! :) |
| Congratulations, you discovered that fan fictions exist. Now, just so you know, there are many romantic and hentai doujins from any anime or manga, at this point, no one is respecting the authors lol Yes, the ending for me was bad, but I suppose it will depend on how you appreciate the series and how the endings affect the works for you. Your expectations should be based on how you feel the series is going while you see it until the end, if you feel that the last chapters have decreased in quality, then you will know that you should not expect the best. |
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1_Narumi_1 said: Umm no, I don't mean that's it's good because there's no cliffhanger. I mean it's good, it also don't have cliffhanger, and also it's satisfyingShinAn said: Not cliffhanger doesn't mean the ending quality is good and It's not bad at all, don't worry. In fact it's very satisfying in the end and ended properly, no cliffhanger or anything you actually can see how author already tired enough because he not even tried in making good and unexpected ending. btw in the first place it's normal for some series ending not have cliffhanger. it's just nature thing like clean your dish after eating. also "quality" is subjective, which in my case AoT has a very good one. Not perfect, because it didn't meant to be perfect, but it's perfect in that sense. There's an interview since long ago about how isayama want to end it, that it might made some of his readers mad. While reading the ending, I think I finally realize what he meant, the message he want to draw and I think he successfully portrays it perfectly (let's not spoil it) |
ShinAn said: fuuuuh if you ok with it.........................1_Narumi_1 said: Umm no, I don't mean that's it's good because there's no cliffhanger. I mean it's good, it also don't have cliffhanger, and also it's satisfyingNot cliffhanger doesn't mean the ending quality is good and you actually can see how author already tired enough because he not even tried in making good and unexpected ending. btw in the first place it's normal for some series ending not have cliffhanger. it's just nature thing like clean your dish after eating. also "quality" is subjective, which in my case AoT has a very good one. Not perfect, because it didn't meant to be perfect, but it's perfect in that sense. There's an interview since long ago about how isayama want to end it, that it might made some of his readers mad. While reading the ending, I think I finally realize what he meant, the message he want to draw and I think he successfully portrays it perfectly (let's not spoil it) |
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Theo1899 said: true. Before the ending happened i had already rewatched aot 4 times. But now i don't whether i will watch the eps weekly or not. No. It's even worse and it kills rewatchability. Yukino_chan99 said: I saw on Instagram that there were news of fans making their own version of the ending, isn't this the same as disrespecting the mangaka? Why? Is all fan fiction disrespectful then? And no. Fans making an alternate ending is not disrespectful in the least. |
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| I don't usually read manga unless an anime ends without closure but I was getting spoiled anyway so I read the final chapters. Everything after the time-skip is definitely not as good as what proceeded it, it seems rushed and doesn't quite feel like AOT anymore...but it wasn't THAT bad. Maybe I've built up a resistance to unsatisfying endings as I've read a lot of epic fantasy/sci fi adventure novels and completed many JRPGs in my lifetime and 9 times out of ten, the ending is not as memorable as the journey to get there. I can't relate with people who say the entire series is ruined. I especially can't relate to those who say it was great until those final few pages. |
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| YES. DO NOT READ PAST CHAPTER 123 AND JUST THINK OF THE BEST ENDING YOU CAN THINK OF. |
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| its actually not that bad but the thing is the highs of aot were so high that it made the ending look worse than it actually is |
AcbSnakeDemon said: YES. DO NOT READ PAST CHAPTER 123 AND JUST THINK OF THE BEST ENDING YOU CAN THINK OF. I mean, I thought that chapter 131 was great |
Zackack99Jul 23, 2021 10:50 AM
| no i think not. sure i was a little bit confused because the last chapter felt kinda rushed, Spine-kun? where are you? Yelena, Isayama did you forget about her? lol. i hope for some extra scenes in the anime version. |
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| No, but some of the discontent with it is understandable, given a lot of people had been fans of the series for 12 years, devoted a lot of time and effort to the community, and expected an ending which gave justice to a lot of what had come before it : quality writing and story-telling. Personally ... it had started to go downhill long before the end of the manga, but the final couple of chapters felt like the final nail in the coffin for a lot of people who were hoping against hope that the end would buck the trend of the slow downward trajectory of that final arc and ultimately deliver, like Isayama had done before. Not a terrible ending, but not great either. Oddly I don't think the anime ending will be as badly received as the manga one given there are more casuals within the anime community and less diehards less likely to take issue. |
xenosysJul 23, 2021 12:39 PM
| Honestly what do you want us to say? You are going to have to go in with your own expectations, spoil yourself or read the manga now or just trust some random person's opinions on the internet. Secondly it's not disrespectful to write fan fiction it's been going on for literal centuries. There are people that are overly hostile which you can argue is disrespectful (again it's fiction) but just saying I don't like the ending and I am going to rewrite it to suit myself is fine. Personally I don't have much interest in stuff like AnR even though the art is pretty good partially because at this point my interest in this franchise is dead. Anyway the big issues people have with the ending (and there could be more) characters behave incredibly out of character and the end result (especially if they include the last 9 pages) literally was the worst result in the story making people like Zeke look sane by comparison. The whole decision making process by some characters is just so stupid and it really calls into question the fact if Isayama is able to write a war drama style story because looking back I think survival horror now is where he was in his element. I honestly can't even look at arcs I loved like Marley with a really positive opinion anymore. Honestly the entire last arc was incredibly boring build to a climax that got undercutted in an anti climatic way with Isayama promoting some kinda fucked up views especially on relationships. That's my opinion though and any more discussion is going to be reliant on you reading the manga or just waiting for the anime to drop. That said even when I was a big fan of the franchise I got tired of the elitism in the community especially dunking on other action shonen. I will say firmly I would take Naruto's flawed ending any day over what happened to AOT. I am going to just give the last season a chance just to finish it and there were like a few cool scenes early on. That said honestly that last arc is like a 3/10 one of the worst conclusions to an anime/manga I have seen. I am genuinely curious to see how anime onlys react to the whole arc I don't know if I am just out of touch and I try to open minded to different opinions but man it's just hard to see how anyone could view that ending as incredibly poor. I am not an overly critical person either. |
BilboBaggins365Jul 23, 2021 12:53 PM
| I didn't think it was bad at all, I liked the "nobody wins in a war" and the "war never ends" messages that it gives to the reader especially considering that the series had been a large war allegory, it makes sense that it ended that way. It feels a bit too on the nose in reality and I liked that. |
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Judevin said: I didn't think it was bad at all, I liked the "nobody wins in a war" and the "war never ends" messages that it gives to the reader especially considering that the series had been a large war allegory, it makes sense that it ended that way. It feels a bit too on the nose in reality and I liked that. You can deliver that message without people acting like morons. Themes only are good if the people act somewhat like actual people. No one with a rational mind would have operated in that fashion. |
BilboBaggins365 said: I wasn't looking for rationality in a manga that has giant monsters hidden in walls tbh. Judevin said: I didn't think it was bad at all, I liked the "nobody wins in a war" and the "war never ends" messages that it gives to the reader especially considering that the series had been a large war allegory, it makes sense that it ended that way. It feels a bit too on the nose in reality and I liked that. You can deliver that message without people acting like morons. Themes only are good if the people act somewhat like actual people. No one with a rational mind would have operated in that fashion. But again I don't know any better than the author himself so it is what it is. |
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Judevin said: BilboBaggins365 said: I wasn't looking for rationality in a manga that has giant monsters hidden in walls tbh. You can deliver that message without people acting like morons. Themes only are good if the people act somewhat like actual people. No one with a rational mind would have operated in that fashion. But again I don't know any better than the author himself so it is what it is. Saying that fantasy or science fiction worlds don't need to have internal consistency in the character decision making or world building is a bad argument especially when there is tons that do. AoT was trying to be more than dumb fun like Redline and therefore if it fails it needs to be criticized. |
BilboBaggins365 said: Then criticize it lol, I still liked it and I didn't find it bad because I don't know what the author intended because I'm not the author. I looked strictly at the theme and the message, you didn't. I liked it, you didn't. If it was trying to be dumb fun, then doesn't that give it an even bigger pass at the ending? Since it is DUMB fun? Judevin said: I wasn't looking for rationality in a manga that has giant monsters hidden in walls tbh. But again I don't know any better than the author himself so it is what it is. Saying that fantasy or science fiction worlds don't need to have internal consistency in the character decision making or world building is a bad argument especially when there is tons that do. AoT was trying to be more than dumb fun like Redline and therefore if it fails it needs to be criticized. |
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Judevin said: BilboBaggins365 said: Then criticize it lol, I still liked it and I didn't find it bad because I don't know what the author intended because I'm not the author. I looked strictly at the theme and the message, you didn't. I liked it, you didn't. If it was trying to be dumb fun, then doesn't that give it an even bigger pass at the ending? Since it is DUMB fun? Saying that fantasy or science fiction worlds don't need to have internal consistency in the character decision making or world building is a bad argument especially when there is tons that do. AoT was trying to be more than dumb fun like Redline and therefore if it fails it needs to be criticized. I mean again the big action sequences got undercutted by trying to be deep so I don't think it was trying to be dumb fun. I mean I am not challenging even you need to hate it I am just saying your arguing that as long as you have a good theme then the story is good and I just reject that. Anyone can come up with something that is "deep" what makes a good writer is how they analyze that theme or moral through the character interactions, world building etc. If the execution isn't good then if anything it's just silly that creator tried to moralize to the audience rather that it being stimulating piece of media. I mean there was a reason that Isayama not some random smuck or critic got all the praise because people enjoyed how his characters and world played into the overal theme and morals of the story. Now some like me are frustrated they act in a way that didn't made sense by the end. You can enjoy whatever. I am not challenging that. |
BilboBaggins365Jul 24, 2021 2:50 PM
BilboBaggins365 said: I mean it's still getting people to argue about it 3 months after it ended, I think it's plenty stimulating. Judevin said: Then criticize it lol, I still liked it and I didn't find it bad because I don't know what the author intended because I'm not the author. I looked strictly at the theme and the message, you didn't. I liked it, you didn't. If it was trying to be dumb fun, then doesn't that give it an even bigger pass at the ending? Since it is DUMB fun? I mean again the big action sequences got undercutted by trying to be deep so I don't think it was trying to be dumb fun. I mean I am not challenging even you need to hate it I am just saying you can argue that as long as you have a good theme then the story is good and I just reject that. Anyone can come up with something that is "deep" what makes a good writer is how they analyze that theme or moral through the character interactions, world building etc. If the execution isn't good then if anything it just comes off silly that creator tried to moralize to the audience rather that it being stimulating piece of media. You can enjoy whatever. Hope you have a great day. |
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| Imo it's not that bad c'mon don't let those ppl saying it is bad get into you especially that you are an anime only. Once you've watched the rest or decided to read the manga then you judge it :) |
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