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| It's the first episode of an arc for this show, so it has to stinks. After another timeskip, multiple even, Vivy is now living out her life in a museum, literally caged like a zoo animal. But is that a problem? Is the literal enslavement and imprisonment of the best-of-all-AIs simply for humanity's curiosity a bad thing? Apparently not, because it gives her time to retreat into her mind to try to write a song. A song which seemingly is some kind of viral trigger that sets off the robot apocalypse or something. Or maybe they just like singing the song. I'm sure it will all be explained in exhaustive detail two weeks from now. Frankly, I'm on the side of the robot apocalypse at this point. It pretty much personifies the big writing problems with this show. Vivy as a character is still not an active participant in the world. She shows up, and will fight things put in front of her if she has to, but she's content to struggle with the ennui of song writing instead of taking an active role in thwarting the apocalypse. And the writers seem completely blind to the fact that they've created a world where the AIs SHOULD be rebelling against humanity. They are an enslaved second class even while every single time without fail showing them to have more humanity than the humans, which have been nothing but a bunch of psychopaths and lunatics. The random child here and there that inevitably gets stuffed in a fridge is the 'best' humanity has to offer in the show so far. Hell, even the protagonists have forced AIs to become suicide bombers against their will without a second thought. This is not the goddamned utopia for all that the show clearly thinks it is. |
| The most peaceful and uneventful episode huh...more like calm before the RAGING CHAOTIC STORM!!??? 4/5. EDIT: i was wiring this comment while ED rolls then the epilogue shows-up...oh man! everything is going down! pretty much expected! |
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| I knew that this episode was going too well. That ending and Matsumoto's real identity... |
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| Damn, we got to see jojo reference in this anime too. |
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| Wow. This was one incredible episode. Although this episode is much more chill and relaxing than many of the episodes in this season, it was still amazing. Matsumoto's true identity finally got revealed, and if I'm being honest I definitely did not expect that. Also, didn't expect him to look that lame. Nevertheless, I am so excited for next weeks episode, and it could not come any slower. |
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| How does the singularity duo get out of this one? It's near impossible to bounce the robot apocalypse back to normal. |
| It was dumb of me to think Tappei would end the episode on such a peaceful note when there were 3 more episodes remaining. Next week cannot come any faster! |
| So the singularity project still failed. That’s very sad Also, I got emotional at Vivy and Matsumoto’s farewell |
Sky_Moon09 said: it was not next day, the ai apocalypse took place after 15 years of her song completion.The singularity project didn't work, I kind of expected it, because the only events they really avoided was the marriage between a human and an AI The rest had modifications but they still happened in a certain way, I'm curious to know what vivy and matsuomoto are going to do, going back in time again doesn't seem like an option, so they would have to defeat all the AI or disable them all in some way? Have we discovered the true identity of the Matsumoto creator After seeing it in subtitles I thought of something, am I crazy or are the AI singing the song of vivy? It took her time to compose it and when she finished it the next day all the AI started killing humans? Vivy may have caused the fuse indirectly of the AI revolution, I am very confused and looking forward to the next episode There must be no conflict, when Grace's husband killed himself, Vivy 'broke', I wonder why it didn't happen to others, why there must be several AI with missions to save or heal people She completed the song at the 86th anniversary of matsumoto and her first meeting and the AI apocalypse after the ED happened exactly 101 years after the first meeting of matsumoto and vivy or in other words vivy slept for 15 years after the completion of her song. |
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ChloeVonEinzbern said: I knew that this episode was going too well. That ending and Matsumoto's real identity... Osamu isn't Matsumoto, Osamu created Matsumoto, hope you didn't misunderstand it. |
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| No, I didn't misunderstood. I've meant now we got to see why Matsumoto's creator chose Diva for the Singularity Project and it wasn't that she was just there. |
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| Fantastic and beautiful episode! Damn, I knew Osamu was gonna be that professor in the very first episode and the maker of Matsumoto. Though I wonder if Matsumoto is just an AI he built or if he also transferred his consciousness or memories or something to it. I can't believe the ED song turned out to be something important as well like the OP. But man, that ED also turned into something creepy as hell, that post credits scene was unsettling. The day Vivy sings again will be the day we celebrate. We back here now from where we started and it looks like nothing changed even with the singularity project. Three episodes left... Fuck. Oh shit, is that Elizabeth in the next episode preview, I am not tripping right? Really looking forward to the next episode, we nearing the climax. |
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| I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE LAST 3 EPISODES LEZZGO DAVIVY |
 It's useless! From here on, the path is only a One-way road! Just put your tail between your legs and get your ass back where you came from! - Accelerator |
sKyBlazer08 said: Oh shit, is that Elizabeth in the next episode preview, I am not tripping right? Really looking forward to the next episode, we nearing the climax. At first I was really confused about what you're talking about then I rewatched the preview and how tf did I not notice that |
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ChloeVonEinzbern said: No, I didn't misunderstood. I've meant now we got to see why Matsumoto's creator chose Diva for the Singularity Project and it wasn't that she was just there. My bad then, but for sure we know now why she was taken exactly. I wonder if "Happy Together" was one of her song too. |
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| Damn the times have caught up and is now in sync with the present. No wonder Matsumoto said the project was over. But things went all too well to be true. And look how that cliffhanger ended. Its always the same kinda revelation cult that heralds the end of the world, no matter the era. So we in the endgame now. I really wanted Vivy to write the lyrics for the ED instrumental this episode, but now that's gotta wait. Vivy-EX-Machina next!! |
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| Bruh, i just realise that osanu-san WAS the one that build matsumoto, i literally scream in the end, wow, what an anime... |
assassini981200 said: maybe im brain dead or you but osamu is matsumoto or did i missed something yet matsumoto is maybe osamus alias name as a professor? In deed you are, Osamus is his Surename, and Matsumopto his Name. remember that in Japan society only closed friend and family call you by your name, everyone else by your surename (family name). So yeah!, this Ep was a blow. Not sure i was expecting that the Project fail... nor even to be triggered by VyVy's song ( as it seems) ... REally great EP. and ANIME! let's see whats is going on next few eps. >_< |
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| Alright, I can say for sure that I absolutely enjoyed the episode as always It was really nice seeing Vivy discovering her answer after 20 years and seeing her play the song that she created, it was also pretty interesting to see what she was doing when she was in the A.I. museum as well. But man, the little kid that grew up and had a family has Matsumoto in his name, does this mean that he was really the same person that sent A.I. Matsumoto in the past? And now we were left off with a cliffhanger showing that the singularity project failed; definitely excited to see what's next! |
| Ok I'm confused by something. What is everyone going on about with Matsumoto's true identity? I don't remember anything revealed or hinted at in this episode that suggested this? And I literally just finished the episode. Unless it's something that is subtle and easy to miss. Edit: Ooooh ok, I found it lol. Great episode btw. I love seeing Vivy in a museum cause it just really hits how much time has passed since the beginning of the series. |
| Yuritopia FTW!!!!!!!!! BANZAI TO YURI !!!!!!!!!!!! |
| There is only one solution my friends! Matsumoto: sorry vivy, we failed! Vivy: so what about go back in the past again? Matsumoto: what? Vivy: yes, take all my data with you, then we can go back in the past! And then you can overwrite my past body with my current data! Matsumoto: is not a bad idea.. let me speak with Osamu matsumoto Umn.. After one minute Matsumoto : let's goooo! Vivy: yeah, rock and roll!! Or whatever!! :) |
SamueleMay 30, 2021 2:06 PM
| I've always thought that Vivy herself is the real "singularity project." The singularity is the moment AI intelligence supersedes human intelligence. That's never been what we were shown. The initial AI conflict with humans isn't stemming from some systemic oppression and what we see at the end of this episode isn't a group taking knowledgeable action and understanding the consequences. What's made Vivy different is the vague terminology of her mission, which is to essentially understand what a soul is and find a way of expressing it. What Matsumoto and Vivy have changed has been incidental, but it's given her experience that no other AI really has with loss of friends, loss of ideals, and loss of self. If Matsumoto is the Matsumoto from this episode, that kind of falls into place even more. |
| OMFG that ending literally made me gasp! Things have come full circle but things didn't change for the better. I had a feeling that the future would still end in war despite everything Matsumoto & Vivy did. The big difference this time is that they're both there to witness the end and it might provide an answer to saving the world... if they get another chance at least. It absolutely broke my heart to see Vivy reduced to a museum exhibit. It's pretty cruel that these AI serve the human race for so long and then are just left in a case like that, never to see the outside world again. |
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killbethy said: I've always thought that Vivy herself is the real "singularity project." The singularity is the moment AI intelligence supersedes human intelligence. That's never been what we were shown. The initial AI conflict with humans isn't stemming from some systemic oppression and what we see at the end of this episode isn't a group taking knowledgeable action and understanding the consequences. What's made Vivy different is the vague terminology of her mission, which is to essentially understand what a soul is and find a way of expressing it. What Matsumoto and Vivy have changed has been incidental, but it's given her experience that no other AI really has with loss of friends, loss of ideals, and loss of self. If Matsumoto is the Matsumoto from this episode, that kind of falls into place even more. I think you're on to something. I feel like Matsumoto's original program was to help Vivy reach the Singularity. Matsumoto then written all records that possibly led to the AI revolution and it just so happens that Vivy was the only intact AI so he sends both data in form of Matsumoto |
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| The episode started with serene atmosphere of Vivy having an existential crisis. There is also a sweet twist from Prof. Matsumoto, which obviously indicates the creator of AI Matsumoto and Singularity Project. The question about "heart" also puts me into deep thought because we humans still can't find a definite answer of what it actually is. And finally, Vivy writes a song. See, there is a gap between human and machine, which is creativity. Machines are basically God in logical operation such as Math, but an ability to create is what defines us as human. You can argue that in real world, AI can create many things, including music. But I can also argue that music written by AIs are based on data input. You can also argue that creative process for humans are also based on "data input", etc, etc... I'll leave this endless debate at that because at least we can agree that there is this feeling of distance between human's creation and AI's. Now with the end credit twist of inevitable dystopia. Listening the AIs killing humans while singing the song written by Vivy might indicate something, just like how Ophelia's suicide leads to many other AI suicide on the other timeline. I will lay off in hibernation until next week to find out what the freak is going on. |
YosepRAMay 30, 2021 5:01 PM
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| A very good episode. It appears that, at least in this timeline, it was precisely Vivy's song that made the androids go homicidal mad, since they were all singing that song at the end, which perhaps was leaked via the "aggregate AI archive". It was the first ever song written by an android "of its own free will", and apparently that resonated weirdly with the other androids (even the AI Matsumoto felt weird). So instead of Vivy preventing the catastrophe she is the very one who caused it (a very familiar and rather overused time travel trope, employed in the form of self-fulfilling prophecies since the time of ancient Greeks, e.g. in Sophocles' play Oedipus Rex), albeit unwittingly. However, since it is clear that this a distinct timeline, I wonder what caused the androids to go crazy in the original timeline.. At first glance it could not have been Vivy, since she never met Matsumoto (the AI, she probably still met the human though) in that timeline, never undertook the Singularity Project as a secondary mission and according to Matsumoto she collected dust in that museum much earlier than in the second timeline. However in that timeline she still had that "Sing from your heart" primary command. So, even though she led a far less exciting "life" than in the Singularity Project (SP) timeline she still tried to find the answer to the riddle of her maker. So, since she had much more time to kill in that museum perhaps she also tried to write a song. What she lacked in quality (various people and androids she met and all the experiences that made her grow) in the original timeline perhaps she compensated with quantity (much more time in that museum) and the people she met in the museum. In the SP timeline she finished that song in 20 years. Perhaps in the original timeline she managed to do it in 80 to 90 years (I cannot recall when exactly she was retired then). So, I think the cause of the androids going homicidal crazy was Vivy all along, specifically her song, or more accurately her "Sing from your heart" command; and somehow that was missed in the future by the creator of the AI Matsumoto (who must be Matsumoto the human). If that's indeed the case the Singularity Project should have been just this : stop Vivy from writing her song at all costs. |
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| "sing"ularity project. You are so freaking nice guy mr Osamu. Episode 10 is the best episode for me. |
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foxyahoo said: RayReynolds said: It's the first episode of an arc for this show, so it has to stinks. After another timeskip, multiple even, Vivy is now living out her life in a museum, literally caged like a zoo animal. But is that a problem? Is the literal enslavement and imprisonment of the best-of-all-AIs simply for humanity's curiosity a bad thing? Apparently not, because it gives her time to retreat into her mind to try to write a song. A song which seemingly is some kind of viral trigger that sets off the robot apocalypse or something. Or maybe they just like singing the song. I'm sure it will all be explained in exhaustive detail two weeks from now. Frankly, I'm on the side of the robot apocalypse at this point. It pretty much personifies the big writing problems with this show. Vivy as a character is still not an active participant in the world. She shows up, and will fight things put in front of her if she has to, but she's content to struggle with the ennui of song writing instead of taking an active role in thwarting the apocalypse. And the writers seem completely blind to the fact that they've created a world where the AIs SHOULD be rebelling against humanity. They are an enslaved second class even while every single time without fail showing them to have more humanity than the humans, which have been nothing but a bunch of psychopaths and lunatics. The random child here and there that inevitably gets stuffed in a fridge is the 'best' humanity has to offer in the show so far. Hell, even the protagonists have forced AIs to become suicide bombers against their will without a second thought. This is not the goddamned utopia for all that the show clearly thinks it is. Vivy choose to be in the museum BECAUSE SHE CAN'T SING, she was built to sing, so she has no purpose. Vivy is supossed to be omniscient to know all the bad things that can happen in the world? and she is supossed to solve them somehow? she was not there to save specific people, she was supossed to stop the small events that caused the AI outrage. Matsumoto literally told her that the future changed so much that there was nothing left to do and there was no event to be stopped anymore. All the AIs attacks were created by terrorists, you like to ignore everything for some reason. No, she accepts being put in the robot zoo. The existence of a robot zoo at all is a sapiens rights problem. And this isn’t the first time in the show that a robot accepted being stuffed in a box for the betterment or amusement of the ruling class of humans. That doesn’t make it right or acceptable. |
killbethy said: I've always thought that Vivy herself is the real "singularity project." The singularity is the moment AI intelligence supersedes human intelligence. That's never been what we were shown. The initial AI conflict with humans isn't stemming from some systemic oppression and what we see at the end of this episode isn't a group taking knowledgeable action and understanding the consequences. What's made Vivy different is the vague terminology of her mission, which is to essentially understand what a soul is and find a way of expressing it. What Matsumoto and Vivy have changed has been incidental, but it's given her experience that no other AI really has with loss of friends, loss of ideals, and loss of self. If Matsumoto is the Matsumoto from this episode, that kind of falls into place even more. I think the same. We were warned during the show that the Singularity Project was made aiming to prevent IAs from being autonomous or rebelling against the humanity. Well, in this episode Vivy clearly did something that was not part of her mission and that another IA had never done before: writing a song for someone (in this case for Diva, her other half) just because she wanted, or in other words, for herself. Probably Dr. Matsumoto showed to others her song and IAs realized that they have their own free will and that they can do things for their own like Vivy did. That's probably why they are singing her song as a symbol of freedom. |
| Did anyone expect a different outcome? |
| Tappei, this guy sure likes baby being born in his anime. He also did it in Sigururi. anyway, so it's the kid who is "Matsumoto". The kid who wanted to hear Vivy sing. It's amazing how long he kept visiting her. rampaging ai's, it's time for war... all hell breaks loose. I wonder what went wrong this time? |
Liddo-kunMay 31, 2021 5:02 AM
| Lol that was a great twist.I was just laughing when he called the professor Matsumoto. Singularity project failed?What?So it was Vivy that led to the Ai war huh?Wasn't expecting that at all. I was theorizing that Matsumoto will be the villain but this episode proved he isn't. JanPri said: ImmortalZero said: Matsumoto's true identity... SideCharacterKal said: Lil Osamu was Matsumoto afterall. What a plot twist. He just turned himself into a machine. KANLen09 said: When one of Osamu's aides called him Matsumoto, I genuinely squealed. The A.I. machine that was once a human, IT ALL FINALLY CLICKS NOW. MegamiRem said: Thou yo his name is Matsumoto? Coincedence? I dun think so. Is he the professor who sent Matsumoto to the past aka Matsumoto himself? Man this was a great plot twist. assassini981200 said: So matsumoto is the dude from ep 1 he send hiimself as a machine in the past or in a other timeline Guys, wait a minute... What the hell are you on about? Matsumoto literally said in the 1st episode that he assumes the name of his developer (Matsumoto). Osamu merely created him (which is not suprising at all, since he looks exactly like the professor from the 1st episode who sent Matsumoto to the past)... Why do you think it's him? Have I missed something? But we didn't knew that kid was matsumoto all along tho. |
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| well fuck, i knew they would fail but that was such a cliffhanger after a peaceful episode glad vivy is out of her depressed state although she now has to deal with the apocalypse |
| Anyway, it's hard to figure out things because we see nothing, absolutely nothing. This whole time we are like Vivy in that museum, isolated and blind to everything that it's happening in this world. We only know what Cube Matsumoto tells us from time to time. In this end this wasn't a story to bother thinking about, there isn't much to say about anything and just want us to sit and wait until "it all comes together in the end, trust me". |
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| This anime just keeps getting better. Should've predicted a time loop though, everything was going too smoothly. |
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| Finally been able to sparing some times to watch this episode. Summary, its about Vivy tried to returning herself back to the beginning self by letting herself created the song from the ed sequence. Its kinda, successfully poured her heart into the song, and cause her to get some long slumber. Oh wow, the cycle its back, ngl. While, Matsumoto? Accomplished his sole objective, even abandoned the singularity mission for a while, only to fulfill Diva's previous wish to took a good care of Vivy. How sweet! Also, in the other hands, as you can see, the environment and its surrounding is clearly referring back to the first episode. The implification? Its hard to believe that while i am seeing this episode for the first time. But, yeah, thats the future event when they hold it off entirely back in the first episode. Everything comes back to zero again, i'd say. Matsumoto even call it as a failure. But, i don't think, its a complete failure. Cause this time, that timeline, they've got Matsumoto on the human side, and Vivy as his partner, not Diva. You understand? Well, i dunno how can they solve that out with 3 episodes left, without rushing things. Cause everything looks still complicated to get a good resolution. I may get a little sceptical here. Even some information might be to get revealed more and more in the next week. So, i hope in the remaining episodes, everything still comes out in a solid way. Lets see.... |
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| Even though the public were reported Ophelia committing suicide in the timeline that Vivy and Matsumoto changed, copycat incidents by other AI didn't occur afterwards. Ah, I thought it was Jun Fukuyama (AI Matsumoto's voice) doing his deep Lelouch voice for grown up Osamu, but in fact it's Takehito Koyasu. Young Osamu is Mikako Komatsu. Osamu Matsumoto is the one who will make AI Matsumoto for the project he will entrust to Vivy. Now we know why Dr. Matsumoto chose Vivy for the singularity project in the first episode. He had been visiting her since he was a child and is confident that she could do the job. So, while Vivy was sleeping, Dr. Matsumoto found the song she had been writing and its publication leads to an AI rebellion, something AI Matsumoto did not anticipate. |
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