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May 31, 2021 7:30 AM
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I can't really understand why they get so happy when they change the story or add fillers. Why the hell do they do that. I want to know what is the happiness they are getting from doing this. (Sorry for bad english)
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May 31, 2021 8:03 AM
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It's to buy time for the manga/original series to progress to avoid the anime overtaking the manga/original series.
May 31, 2021 8:08 AM
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They have some pretty good stuff...not including Tokyo Ghoul, Boruto, etc. I don’t think they’re that bad :/
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I hate that studio their reason for filler not lost weekly watchers
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Looks like someone’s mad bcs their Naruto is full of filler...
May 31, 2021 8:18 AM
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Have you ever heard of the words “budget” or “pacing”? I get why they’re disliked but it’s not like they do this for fun OP.
May 31, 2021 8:28 AM
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I think it's obvious why, there's a good example for that: BORUTO: Naruto Next Generations (this series will never surpass it's prequels, the prequels are much more better than this sh*t)
May 31, 2021 10:47 AM
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Its not a trash studio. How many anime have you watched made by them?

Also i don't think they get happy when they change the story or add fillers
May 31, 2021 11:20 AM
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I don't hate this studio since they gave some of the iconic anime ever, but only the fillers part felt irritating
May 31, 2021 1:36 PM

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They made Akudama Drive which is the opposite of trash (at least visually) thus they can stop being such studio in the moment they want.
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They're not bad, they got some good anime. There's no studio that made a perfect anime everytime
May 31, 2021 2:18 PM

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https://myanimelist.net/anime/producer/1?page=1

Naruto - dropped
Bleach - dropped
Yona of the Dawn - completed
Great Teacher Onizuka - I've watched like one ep of this but apparently I haven't recorded it yet
Twin Star Exorcists (Sousei no Onmyouji) - PTW
Divine Gate - PTW
Tokyo Mew Mew - not on my lists but a thing I'm aware of
Twelve Kingdoms - PTW
Hikaru no Go - PTW (not sure why? lol)
Yona of the Dawn OVA - completed
Fushigi Yuugi - PTW (I forget why I've PTW'd this too lol)
Polar Bear Cafe - PTW
Yume-iro Pâtissière - PTW
Urusei Yatsura - not on my lists but again a thing I'm just aware of
ēlDLIVE - also not on my lists
Letter Bee - also not on my lists
Soul Buster - PTW
Key the Metal Idol - PTW
Clamp School Detectives - dropped
Puzzle & Dragons X - dropped
Salamander - PTW
Tensai Bakabon - also not on my lists

Seems like Pierrot (1) has been around for a while, (2) has done a lot of well-known series and a lot of action shows.

I can't say I've seen enough of what they do to have a specific opinion, but I do really like Yona.
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At least Akudama Drive was a good anime.
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Zayvex said:
They have some pretty good stuff...not including Tokyo Ghoul, Boruto, etc. I don’t think they’re that bad :/


I'm not going to hate, But.... really? Boruto?

May 31, 2021 8:58 PM

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I wouldn't say trash, its just decent however its notorious for its fillers in its anime.
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from what i have seen from them they are not bad:

Abashiri Ikka(rated with 5)
Baoh Raihousha(rated with 7)
Cosmo Police Justy(rated with 6)
Dallos(rated with 5)
Fire Tripper(rated with 8)
Kinniku Banzuke: Kongou-kun no Daibouken!(rated with 4)
Lily C.A.T.(rated with 7)
Maicching Machiko-sensei(rated with 5)
Neo Ranga(rated with 8)
The Choujo(rated with 6)
Urusei Yatsura(rated with 7)
Urusei Yatsura: Haru da, Tobidase!(rated with 6)
Yuu☆Yuu☆Hakusho(rated with 8)
Yuu☆Yuu☆Hakusho (Movie)(rated with 7)

the average is a 6.36 while my average score total is 6.06 so they are above average on my list
May 31, 2021 10:44 PM
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fillers usually happens on prime time TV time slot or morning TV time slot anime and usually this shows are long running and continuous shows

big anime studios like Toei and Pierrot do more of this morning TV time slot shows that heavily rely on TV ratings to stay on that TV time slot and make more money from ads and merchandising sales

so hence they do fillers when there is not enough source material to animate and in order to make the anime show still popular among the masses that will buy merchandises and consume TV ads

as for changing the story usually that is the decision of the source material owner like the publisher especially the manga artist or light novel artist like he wants to change some story of the anime adaptation that he thinks will be better instead of what the source material gives, this applies to the recent The Promised Neverland anime adaptation too its not the A1 Studios fault at all but the publisher and manga author of it aka the original creators and ye maybe the original creators of that show decided to make end it early since the source material already ended too so they went the cheaper route

but anyway this morning TV anime shows are starting to become rare this days and more long running anime adaptations move to Late Night Anime time slots and make them yearly seasonal anime like Demon Slayer, Attack on Titan, Sword Art Online, etc
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For every bad series they do they also have a good series. So, personally, I don't think they're a trash studio. I think they're an iffy studio because you don't know if you're going to get something great or something trash.

Good series they've done for reference include:

Akatsuki no Yona
Hikaru no Go
GTO
Juuni Kokuki
Baby Steps
Soredemo Sekai wa Utsukushii
Kingdom (though the CG was f-ing terrible in the first season)
Tegamibachi
Level E
etc.
May 31, 2021 11:41 PM

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Most of their shows that I had watched have pretty awful source material itself, so I can't tell how much better would it be if they adapted it differently.

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Looks like someone’s mad bcs their Naruto is full of filler...

And they rightfully should be? Like what are you implying here?
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Preachee said:
Tendo_GM said:
Looks like someone’s mad bcs their Naruto is full of filler...

And they rightfully should be? Like what are you implying here?

Filler is a great solution to the logistical realities of running a show for over a decade.
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Its not a trash studio. How many anime have you watched made by them?

Also i don't think they get happy when they change the story or add fillers
2 and both anime are bad. Not so bad but if some other studio was there it would have been a masterpiece for sure
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alshu said:
They made Akudama Drive which is the opposite of trash (at least visually) thus they can stop being such studio in the moment when they want.
I will try the anime you are referring to
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For every bad series they do they also have a good series. So, personally, I don't think they're a trash studio. I think they're an iffy studio because you don't know if you're going to get something great or something trash.

Good series they've done for reference include:

Akatsuki no Yona
Hikaru no Go
GTO
Juuni Kokuki
Baby Steps
Soredemo Sekai wa Utsukushii
Kingdom (though the CG was f-ing terrible in the first season)
Tegamibachi
Level E
etc.
they changed the ending of GTO bro or sis
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And they made Itachi cooks sunny-side-ups eggs!! How dare they make a special that is so hilarious that I love it ヽ(`⌒´メ)ノ
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It's because they usually don't follow a seasonal schedule and have year-round shows, so they desperately try to find ways to not catch up to the manga.

At least that's how it was with Naruto iirc
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Yik69 said:
alshu said:
They made Akudama Drive which is the opposite of trash (at least visually) thus they can stop being such studio in the moment when they want.
I will try the anime you are referring to

Yes, you do that...but point is, you should pay more attention who the creators of a show are and less to the studio itself.
Yeah, there are studios which consistently produce good or in this case mediocre stuff but there is always room for surprises (good and bad). Like look at what became MadHouse which once was paragon of quality but it isn't any more or on the other hand Deen being not that great but periodontally pulling good stuff like Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu. Or OLM usually making toy commercials like Pokemon and everything with the "Tomica" in the title but sporadically producing interesting stuff like Odd Taxi.
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Only if they went seasonal for long running shounen battle they would've been goated by the internet.
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Preachee said:

And they rightfully should be? Like what are you implying here?

Filler is a great solution to the logistical realities of running a show for over a decade.

My hero academia is seasonal and it can run even longer than a decade.

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they made Naruto and Naruto Shippuden with a lot of fillers
they made Tokyo Ghoul without following the manga
they made Kingdom with a bad cgi
they made Black Clover with sometimes a bad animation and added some fillers
they made Boruto with more than 150 filler episodes in 200 total episodes
they made Bleach with a lot of fillers

is that enough to prove that this studio sucks?
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The only thing i've seen from them was Akudama Drive and that was amazing so cool studio for that show. Nothing else from them looks anything of interest to me.

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Idk but if you can make better than go ahead
They just try to avoid passing the manga
Atleast they cover the whole story
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Scordolo said:
Only if they went seasonal for long running shounen battle they would've been goated by the internet.
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Filler is a great solution to the logistical realities of running a show for over a decade.

My hero academia is seasonal and it can run even longer than a decade.

There's still the hassle of renegotiating contracts and syncing schedules, you also don't get the benefit of routine viewership. Hero Academia's structure is better artistically but we are talking logistics here.
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Yik69 said:
duchessliz87 said:
For every bad series they do they also have a good series. So, personally, I don't think they're a trash studio. I think they're an iffy studio because you don't know if you're going to get something great or something trash.

Good series they've done for reference include:

Akatsuki no Yona
Hikaru no Go
GTO
Juuni Kokuki
Baby Steps
Soredemo Sekai wa Utsukushii
Kingdom (though the CG was f-ing terrible in the first season)
Tegamibachi
Level E
etc.
they changed the ending of GTO bro or sis

Umm, are you new to anime because that happens with MOST studios... I mean, look at Black Butler since it is the first thing that comes to mind lol. After the Curry Contest Arc in the first season it was anime original for the rest of the first season and actually had a good anime original ending which they f-ed up by making an anime original second season that I pretend doesn't exist. The third season and movies are from the manga though so those are fine. (A-1 Pictures is the studio that handles the Black Butler series btw. An entirely different studio then Pierrot).

Another example, if you need one is Dororo. The manga never finished and thus, the ending was anime original. The studio that handled it was MAPPA.

Off the top of my head I can also think of Inu x Boku, Ao No Exorcist (the first season), Noragami (the first season), etc. that also all have altered anime original endings... it's very common. So no, it's not just Pierrot that does it.
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They might not be the best studio, but calling them trash is an exaggeration. I've seen more anime by Pierrot than you've completed (no flex, just saying), and in my opinion they're pretty good.

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There's literally nothing wrong with the studio. Look at Akudama Drive for instance, excellent animation and directing.

The problem is the indefinitely-running shounen model.
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I think it's obvious why, there's a good example for that: BORUTO: Naruto Next Generations (this series will never surpass it's prequels, the prequels are much more better than this sh*t)


Boruto is amazing! :D (I like it better than Naruto <.<)

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I can't really understand why they get so happy when they change the story or add fillers. Why the hell do they do that. I want to know what is the happiness they are getting from doing this. (Sorry for bad english)


hmm dunno about changing the story, but more "filler" = more content to enjoy from the franchise!, especially if it gives positive context / things that we wouldn't have gotten from the original. What do you have against filler, my man?

wait just looked at what GlennMagusHarvey linked earlier: https://myanimelist.net/anime/producer/1?page=1

I watched: Naruto, Shippuuden, Black Clover, Yuu Yuu, Akudama Drive, Soredemo Sekai wa Utsukushii, Baby Steps (1+2), Boruto

Soredemo, Baby Steps, and Boruto being part of my favorite anime! and I don't hate any of the work I've seen :), and I like their art/animation and action isn't a snooze either!

Thanks for finding one of the studios I should have put onto my favorite studio list! :D :D
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So I guess they should commission the mangaka to write anime instead of manga when they don't have enough chapter to adapt. Filler are shit, atleast u can ignore them.

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I think it's obvious why, there's a good example for that: BORUTO: Naruto Next Generations (this series will never surpass it's prequels, the prequels are much more better than this sh*t)


Boruto is amazing! :D (I like it better than Naruto <.<)

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I can't really understand why they get so happy when they change the story or add fillers. Why the hell do they do that. I want to know what is the happiness they are getting from doing this. (Sorry for bad english)


hmm dunno about changing the story, but more "filler" = more content to enjoy from the franchise!, especially if it gives positive context / things that we wouldn't have gotten from the original. What do you have against filler, my man?

wait just looked at what GlennMagusHarvey linked earlier: https://myanimelist.net/anime/producer/1?page=1

I watched: Naruto, Shippuuden, Black Clover, Yuu Yuu, Akudama Drive, Soredemo Sekai wa Utsukushii, Baby Steps (1+2), Boruto

Soredemo, Baby Steps, and Boruto being part of my favorite anime! and I don't hate any of the work I've seen :), and I like their art/animation and action isn't a snooze either!

Thanks for finding one of the studios I should have put onto my favorite studio list! :D :D


If BORUTO is amazing than Naruto and Naruto Shippudden as you say it is, then how come it's not included in the top ten and it's rating score is low..
Boruto is a spoiled kid, there's nothing interesting about him unlike his father was.
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If BORUTO is amazing than Naruto and Naruto Shippudden as you say it is, then how come it's not included in the top ten and it's rating score is low..
Boruto is a spoiled kid, there's nothing interesting about him unlike his father was.



Do you like all of the top ten anime? Is your taste exactly the rankings on mal in order? I'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who thinks that way. A lot of people quote the same reasons for not liking Boruto, but I think the main fact is that it is (1) different than what people expected, especially since it's part of a franchise with a prequel. However, I liked it for those differences.

I will direct message you the rest in order not to fill up the thread :)
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they changed the ending of GTO bro or sis

Umm, are you new to anime because that happens with MOST studios... I mean, look at Black Butler since it is the first thing that comes to mind lol. After the Curry Contest Arc in the first season it was anime original for the rest of the first season and actually had a good anime original ending which they f-ed up by making an anime original second season that I pretend doesn't exist. The third season and movies are from the manga though so those are fine. (A-1 Pictures is the studio that handles the Black Butler series btw. An entirely different studio then Pierrot).

Another example, if you need one is Dororo. The manga never finished and thus, the ending was anime original. The studio that handled it was MAPPA.

Off the top of my head I can also think of Inu x Boku, Ao No Exorcist (the first season), Noragami (the first season), etc. that also all have altered anime original endings... it's very common. So no, it's not just Pierrot that does it.
I haven't watched any stuff with different ending other than GTO.
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If BORUTO is amazing than Naruto and Naruto Shippudden as you say it is, then how come it's not included in the top ten and it's rating score is low..
Boruto is a spoiled kid, there's nothing interesting about him unlike his father was.



Do you like all of the top ten anime? Is your taste exactly the rankings on mal in order? I'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who thinks that way. A lot of people quote the same reasons for not liking Boruto, but I think the main fact is that it is (1) different than what people expected, especially since it's part of a franchise with a prequel. However, I liked it for those differences.

I will direct message you the rest in order not to fill up the thread :)


Of course not, I don't like every Animes in the top ten.
I only like FMAB, Kimi no na wa and Attack on Titan , out of all the Animes that are included in the Top 10. And these Animes I've mentioned deserved to be in the top 10.
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Why the fuck are people blaming studio pierrot for boruto being shit? It's not the studio's fault if it was just a cashgrab. The animation is top tier from what I've seen. Same thing with Naruto having fillers, fillers are made so that the anime doesn't catch up to the manga(again, not the studio's fault). I feel like they are really underappreciated because their animation is super good most of the time.
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they made Naruto and Naruto Shippuden with a lot of fillers
they made Tokyo Ghoul without following the manga
they made Kingdom with a bad cgi
they made Black Clover with sometimes a bad animation and added some fillers
they made Boruto with more than 150 filler episodes in 200 total episodes
they made Bleach with a lot of fillers

is that enough to prove that this studio sucks?


I see your problem with kingdom and tokyo ghoul, if filler is the main problem with naruto, bleach, black clover so why don't read manga or skip fillers?and the main problem of bleach anime is the pacing of arrancar arcs, they gave us fillers bcz they would caught up to the manga, and If they pause broadcasting shows they will lose fans, that's why fillers are made, and i don't think naruto and black clover anime have any problem, and boruto has only 14% fillers so far, you just should check the real filler list
https://www.animefillerlist.com/shows/boruto-naruto-next-generations
and pierrot has made good animes like gto (still we didn't get to see the full manga adaptation but the adaptation was good), akatsuki no yona, akudama drive, hikaru no go, level e, osomatsu san etc
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Of course not, I don't like every Animes in the top ten.
I only like FMAB, Kimi no na wa and Attack on Titan , out of all the Animes that are included in the Top 10. And these Animes I've mentioned deserved to be in the top 10.

Yeah, and everyone has a different idea of what the top 10 is :).

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I love Naruto, but I know theres animation problems and fillers. I don't know why they do that. Yeah, I get it. They "need" to wait for the manga, so they do fillers. Except they don't... Just stop the anime. Oh, wait? But they want money.
Pierrot has been the studio with more "7 or less" animes for me, always some problems, never great animes, its a shame.
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And they rightfully should be? Like what are you implying here?

Filler is a great solution to the logistical realities of running a show for over a decade.


Sunrise always made Gintama stopping the season for some years until the manga had more chapters to make more episodes, so that's no excuse.
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Rajin21 said:
MiniGriffith said:
they made Naruto and Naruto Shippuden with a lot of fillers
they made Tokyo Ghoul without following the manga
they made Kingdom with a bad cgi
they made Black Clover with sometimes a bad animation and added some fillers
they made Boruto with more than 150 filler episodes in 200 total episodes
they made Bleach with a lot of fillers

is that enough to prove that this studio sucks?


I see your problem with kingdom and tokyo ghoul, if filler is the main problem with naruto, bleach, black clover so why don't read manga or skip fillers?and the main problem of bleach anime is the pacing of arrancar arcs, they gave us fillers bcz they would caught up to the manga, and If they pause broadcasting shows they will lose fans, that's why fillers are made, and i don't think naruto and black clover anime have any problem, and boruto has only 14% fillers so far, you just should check the real filler list
https://www.animefillerlist.com/shows/boruto-naruto-next-generations
and pierrot has made good animes like gto (still we didn't get to see the full manga adaptation but the adaptation was good), akatsuki no yona, akudama drive, hikaru no go, level e, osomatsu san etc


the problem with the fillers is that we have to wait weeks before having the continuation of the story while the studio pierrot preferred to make the anime long and put boring non-canon episodes rather than episodes that follow the original series.
and some people find manga boring to read just because it's black and white and there's no sound (not me) or they just prefer anime and they're lazy to open a manga page. and on the fact of skipping the fillers:
1. for people who follow the anime and expect one episode a week it's very annoying to wait for the original series to resume its course, following the manga.
2. we always have to look on wikipedia to check from which episode the fillers stop and that makes us waste time. for the boruto fillers, you show me a page with the canon episodes of the ANIME and not of the MANGA so they are still fillers.
anyway pierrot made gto, hikaru no go, yuu yuu hakusho nice anime shows but they all have been made before the animes that i mentioned (tg in 2014, naruto in 2002, bleach in 2003, black clover in 2017 etc.) except that yuu yuu hakusho, gto, hikaru no go and the other well-made animes by studio pierrot almost all came out before the 2000s and right after the 2000s they gained their confidence and released us some poorly done animes.
then pierrot is still a virgin studio that always took us for idiots.
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yuu-yuu hakusho was one of their best shounen, really without any filler.
i won't even start talking about hikaru no go which is masterpiece itself and non-shounen.
it might be their other shounen projects that they went downhill.
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Why the fuck are people blaming studio pierrot for boruto being shit? It's not the studio's fault if it was just a cashgrab. The animation is top tier from what I've seen. Same thing with Naruto having fillers, fillers are made so that the anime doesn't catch up to the manga(again, not the studio's fault). I feel like they are really underappreciated because their animation is super good most of the time.


I think animation has more to do with the particular animation directors and key animators that work on a particular episode, rather being a property of the studio itself.

Any studio can produce a well-animated series if they want. All they need to do is to hire some talented animators. These animators are not tied to a particular studio so you can see their work across many anime produced by many different studios.

In other words, when it comes to animation quality, praise the animator, not the studio.
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Idk man. I like urusei yatsura and gto.
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