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Jan 12, 2021 5:48 AM
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Why do they keep doing this? Do CR really think this is what fans want? I know MAL doesn't mean anything in terms of production, but I'm curious about who actually supports CR still after Ex-Arm, Gibiate, TOG and GOH.
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Jan 12, 2021 6:03 AM
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Was gibiate a crunchy production? I thought they just hosted it. Kek what an embarassment.
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Jan 12, 2021 6:04 AM
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Oh they made Gibiate and Ex-arm? They are dying aren't they
Jan 12, 2021 7:07 AM
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They aren't even helping the anime community to grow in a slightest bit.They should stop making anime originals.It's only an embarrassment for Japan.

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Jan 12, 2021 7:08 AM
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They really should reconsider which projects they're willing to fund but I'm not really in favor of kicking them out just yet. Not that we have the power to anyway, especially now that they basically have a monopoly on anime streaming.

Plus the quality of their show vary quite a bit:
- Gibiate and Ex-arm are complete trash
- Nobless and GoH seem to be okay animes but terrible adaptations
- LN/specter is okay and the problems seem to come from the manga rather than the adaptation
- ToG was pretty well received even if some people really didn't like it
- Tonikawa was really well received overall

Plus this season they also have "So, I'm a spider so what!?" which so far has been a pretty good adaptation, and is scheduled to have 24 episodes so even if the CG could be better, it's looking like the story will be correctly adapted.

Honestly, I think the real problem is that they are willing to fund stupid projects like Gibiate or Ex-arm where the teams behind the project have no experience .
Jan 12, 2021 7:12 AM
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shit i voted yes. I mean if they continue doing these garbage animes/adaptations like Giabite, TOG, Ex-arm, etc with dogshit production and scripts. they definitely must quit this world of art, they are just ruining promising works. And they did with GOH, man i was very hyped for this but T_T...
Jan 12, 2021 7:22 AM
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I know Crunchyroll is producing it, with the Crunchyroll SC Anime fund program...

What i want to know is how far is their influence to the Anime Production or is it just Invested Money...
Jan 12, 2021 7:34 AM
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I know Crunchyroll is producing it, with the Crunchyroll SC Anime fund program...

What i want to know is how far is their influence to the Anime Production or is it just Invested Money...


From what I know they are just investing money. And generally contracts like that are made at the beginning of the production of the anime. Which means Crunchyroll doesn't really know what the final product will look like. I'm sure they wouldn't have invested if they knew what it would look like, but at the same times it seems like they aren't doing a lot of research of the companies they are investing in.
Jan 12, 2021 7:37 AM
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Just get all of these north american companies away from the anime scene. Funimation and Crunchyroll both gotta go.

Jan 12, 2021 7:55 AM

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Why only CR and not all the companies from JP?
Jan 12, 2021 8:19 AM

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Oriotiar said:
They really should reconsider which projects they're willing to fund but I'm not really in favor of kicking them out just yet. Not that we have the power to anyway, especially now that they basically have a monopoly on anime streaming.

Plus the quality of their show vary quite a bit:
- Gibiate and Ex-arm are complete trash
- Nobless and GoH seem to be okay animes but terrible adaptations
- LN/specter is okay and the problems seem to come from the manga rather than the adaptation
- ToG was pretty well received even if some people really didn't like it
- Tonikawa was really well received overall

Plus this season they also have "So, I'm a spider so what!?" which so far has been a pretty good adaptation, and is scheduled to have 24 episodes so even if the CG could be better, it's looking like the story will be correctly adapted.

Honestly, I think the real problem is that they are willing to fund stupid projects like Gibiate or Ex-arm where the teams behind the project have no experience .


I believe Tonikawa was well recived only because of the VA, Story and music. Direction and art were horrible.
Jan 12, 2021 8:36 AM

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Why do they keep doing this? Do CR really think this is what fans want? I know MAL doesn't mean anything in terms of production, but I'm curious about who actually supports CR still after Ex-Arm, Gibiate, TOG and GOH.
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Jan 12, 2021 8:45 AM

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Petition to lynch the people that voted 'Yes'.

Jokes aside, remove all Western companies from having influence in Japan's business.




I said keep your hands on the table
Jan 12, 2021 8:48 AM
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Hagaru said:
Oriotiar said:
They really should reconsider which projects they're willing to fund but I'm not really in favor of kicking them out just yet. Not that we have the power to anyway, especially now that they basically have a monopoly on anime streaming.

Plus the quality of their show vary quite a bit:
- Gibiate and Ex-arm are complete trash
- Nobless and GoH seem to be okay animes but terrible adaptations
- LN/specter is okay and the problems seem to come from the manga rather than the adaptation
- ToG was pretty well received even if some people really didn't like it
- Tonikawa was really well received overall

Plus this season they also have "So, I'm a spider so what!?" which so far has been a pretty good adaptation, and is scheduled to have 24 episodes so even if the CG could be better, it's looking like the story will be correctly adapted.

Honestly, I think the real problem is that they are willing to fund stupid projects like Gibiate or Ex-arm where the teams behind the project have no experience .


I believe Tonikawa was well recived only because of the VA, Story and music. Direction and art were horrible.


True, looking at the review it does seem like Art was an issue. Since the story comes from the manga, it probably can't be considered a real success for Crunchyroll.
Still, it does seem to have been a decent, albeit far from perfect, adaptation.
Jan 12, 2021 8:55 AM

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Oriotiar said:
Hagaru said:


I believe Tonikawa was well recived only because of the VA, Story and music. Direction and art were horrible.


True, looking at the review it does seem like Art was an issue. Since the story comes from the manga, it probably can't be considered a real success for Crunchyroll.
Still, it does seem to have been a decent, albeit far from perfect, adaptation.


Better than many others, yes
But I still am not a huge fan of crunchyroll facilitating anime production
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Hrybami said:
davidyodo24 said:
I know Crunchyroll is producing it, with the Crunchyroll SC Anime fund program...

What i want to know is how far is their influence to the Anime Production or is it just Invested Money...


From what I know they are just investing money. And generally contracts like that are made at the beginning of the production of the anime. Which means Crunchyroll doesn't really know what the final product will look like. I'm sure they wouldn't have invested if they knew what it would look like, but at the same times it seems like they aren't doing a lot of research of the companies they are investing in.


Ah i see they just involved with investing money unlike with Netflix Original, i think Netflix only buy the license to be exclusive air on their platform....

So they just randomly throwing money and hope it will a banger lmao
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Hagaru said:
Oriotiar said:


True, looking at the review it does seem like Art was an issue. Since the story comes from the manga, it probably can't be considered a real success for Crunchyroll.
Still, it does seem to have been a decent, albeit far from perfect, adaptation.


Better than many others, yes
But I still am not a huge fan of crunchyroll facilitating anime production

Personally, I'm reserving my judgment for after "So I'm a Spider, so what!?" is complete, I think it still a bit too soon to judge their original when the quality has been all over the place (even if that the weakness in of itself).
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ag_ said:
Why do they keep doing this? Do CR really think this is what fans want? I know MAL doesn't mean anything in terms of production, but I'm curious about who actually supports CR still after Ex-Arm, Gibiate, TOG and GOH.
Oh my sweet summer child, if only you knew how the industry works...

I don't know that much about the industry, but I at least know enough to know that CR cannot give out budget well at all.
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Jan 12, 2021 10:51 AM
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i accidently hit yes
Jan 12, 2021 1:14 PM

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Guys Crunchyroll in few months will be under restructurization as Sony and Funishit bought it. They will have their asses ripped apart.
Jan 12, 2021 1:23 PM

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Crunchyroll is corruption, I don't like them
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I still think "So I'm a spider" will end up adapted like "Arifureta: From Commonplace to World's Strongest" - it's already heading that way..

CR= poor/no quality control.
Jan 13, 2021 2:00 AM

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I vote yes
Maybe they should use their money too, idk, fix their site?
maybe try to get more 2nd + seasons of shows?
get some critically acclaimed anime?
not wasting their money on making horrible anime
                                              
Jan 13, 2021 2:58 AM

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Honestly all the crunchyroll sponsored anime has been shit.

Yes God of High School is super shit.
Total waste of Mappa talent. Force 13 episode to adapt hundred of chapters.

To put it bluntly Crunchyroll has been sponsoring shit too.
Jan 13, 2021 4:06 AM

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Lmfao I love how many of us voted yes because of the wording of this thread...

So that's why so many people said yes.
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Crunchyroll influence on anime production, japan disappointed...lol ( nice to see MAL people still has infinity iq).
First of all Crunchyroll is a american company. Which provide anime to american and other countries. Why would japan be disappointed?
Some great influence, all crunchyroll did was put "Crunchyroll original" sticker on some anime by feeding money to there owners.


Non of these anime mentioned were made by Crunchyroll. Only thing crunchyroll ever made was onyx equinox (which is not even a anime)
I really don't know what people in this forum are talking.
Crunchyroll is not anime studio. Their main work is distributors and licensing anime.
They are Video streaming service.
But this info may be bit too advanced for MAL intelligence...lol
People can be happy. funimation already bought crunchyroll. To be true, it probably won't change anything. But based on Mal intelligence, u can be happy.

Also MAL is not change.org...lol (Infinity and beyond...)
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Crunchyroll influence on anime production, japan disappointed...lol ( nice to see MAL people still has infinity iq).
First of all Crunchyroll is a american company. Which provide anime to american and other countries. Why would japan be disappointed?
Some great influence, all crunchyroll did was put "Crunchyroll original" sticker on some anime by feeding money to there owners.


Non of these anime mentioned were made by Crunchyroll. Only thing crunchyroll ever made was onyx equinox (which is not even a anime)
I really don't know what people in this forum are talking.
Crunchyroll is not anime studio. Their main work is distributors and licensing anime.
They are Video streaming service.
But this info may be bit too advanced for MAL intelligence...lol
People can be happy. funimation already bought crunchyroll. To be true, it probably won't change anything. But based on Mal intelligence, u can be happy.

Also MAL is not change.org...lol (Infinity and beyond...)

Firstly, I made it clear in my original message that I knew MAL means nothing. Secondly, stop talking in such a condescending manner if you haven't realised CR assigns budgets for their anime and all of these have ended up that way because of the tiny budget.
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Adampk said:
Crunchyroll influence on anime production, japan disappointed...lol ( nice to see MAL people still has infinity iq).
First of all Crunchyroll is a american company. Which provide anime to american and other countries. Why would japan be disappointed?
Some great influence, all crunchyroll did was put "Crunchyroll original" sticker on some anime by feeding money to there owners.


Non of these anime mentioned were made by Crunchyroll. Only thing crunchyroll ever made was onyx equinox (which is not even a anime)
I really don't know what people in this forum are talking.
Crunchyroll is not anime studio. Their main work is distributors and licensing anime.
They are Video streaming service.
But this info may be bit too advanced for MAL intelligence...lol
People can be happy. funimation already bought crunchyroll. To be true, it probably won't change anything. But based on Mal intelligence, u can be happy.

Also MAL is not change.org...lol (Infinity and beyond...)

Firstly, I made it clear in my original message that I knew MAL means nothing. Secondly, stop talking in such a condescending manner if you haven't realised CR assigns budgets for their anime and all of these have ended up that way because of the tiny budget.


https://myanimelist.net/anime/producer/1468/Crunchyroll
https://myanimelist.net/anime/producer/1784/Crunchyroll_SC_Anime_Fund
Crunchyroll producer tag
https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2017/12/30/crunchyrolls-2017-co-productions

Example -
https://myanimelist.net/anime/producer/2019/Sola_Entertainment
TOG and GOT producer

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2020-02-25/crunchyroll-unveils-7-crunchyroll-originals-works-including-tower-of-god-noblesse-god-of-high-school/.156748
"MAPPA is animating the series, and Sola Entertainment is providing production management" check these words

Yeah right, crunchyroll are giving tiny budgets...lol
They invest money to get the co-producer tag so they can put "Crunchyroll original" sticker

The entire reason for starting "Crunchyroll original" was to create a american cartoon named High Guardian Spice ( inspired from anime). Not to produce anime. They bought Coproducer tag for some anime to inflate there library.

Sorry for talking in condescending manner, I am just tired of Crunchyroll threads. It was not particularly aimed at u (thats why i didnot quote u, previously) , it was for everyone in general
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Frick I accidentally voted yes because I thought the poll would be the same as the thread's title; I noticed it right after I clicked submit.

The only CR anime I've watched was Tonikawa and it was an abomination. I'm also planning to watch this one just to see how bad they fucked up this time.
Jan 13, 2021 9:42 AM

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I accidentally voted for yes because of op
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I feel sorry for the original creator
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STOP REPHRASING THE QUESTION DURING POLLS, IT CONFUSES PEOPLE INTO VOTING INCORRECTLY
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STOP REPHRASING THE QUESTION DURING POLLS, IT CONFUSES PEOPLE INTO VOTING INCORRECTLY
Yeah he almost tricked me into hitting yes
Jan 13, 2021 11:30 AM

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Pretty much everything has been said. i don‘t think they have so much influence on the outcome, they just invest money to put their co-production tag on them. All those animes probably would have happened either way even without crunchyroll... maybe...Don’t know.
HOWEVER, I think every company who adapts stuff, invests into anime is important. Why would somebody make a petition to stop them? At least we get to see a lot of different anime. The more shows, the more variety. You can’t like every single show and if you don’t like it you don‘t have to watch it.
I’ve seen similar complaints about Netflix. Somebody tried to make a petition to stop Netflix from producing anime. Instead of being grateful that the number of companies investing into anime is increasing.
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The Title:

Petition to remove Crunchyroll's influence from anime production



The actual question:

Should CR be allowed to help in anime production?



What most of illiterate MAL users read and vote:

"Remove... Crunchyrol.. durr... YES!"





The relevance of all this kind of discussion:

Zero.



Btw, i voted no just for the lulz
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Rob7 said:
The Title:

Petition to remove Crunchyroll's influence from anime production



The actual question:

Should CR be allowed to help in anime production?



What most of illiterate MAL users read and vote:

"Remove... Crunchyrol.. durr... YES!"





The relevance of all this kind of discussion:

Zero.



Btw, i voted no just for the lulz


no, you voted "NO" cause fuck Crunchyroll
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Is it already April 1st? Or am i tripping. Was so excited when the announce that it would get an Anime Adaptation and here we are
WHAT WAS THAT ABOMINATION!!! This is the worst anime of 2021 AND WILL ARE ALREADY 2 WEEKS IN. Word alone cannot describe what am i feeling right now. I fell like i was pushed into the road and Truck-kun took with him but this time there is nothing beyond that, is just black No Emilia and NO Rem just DARKNESS AND DESPAIR. All your Dreams and a Aspiration crashed in an instant.


I wouldnt be shocked if the give this a 2nd Season and they probably will, who am i kidding. But again thank God we still have the Manga. BUT STILL WOW!!!!
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To all people thinking that more companies and money investing into anime is a good thing for the industry;

I hate to break this to you, but that doesn't always translate into a greater amount of quality product. The second that something gets big enough to warrant outside investment, the quality tends to degrade because people are involved financially that don't truly care about the art, they only care about quick profits.

We have seen this with many other forms of media, hobby and sport before, this is nothing new sadly. You just need to look for the occasional diamonds that somehow survive.
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I hate to break this to you, but that doesn't always translate into a greater amount of quality product. The second that something gets big enough to warrant outside investment, the quality tends to degrade because people are involved financially that don't truly care about the art, they only care about quick profits.


Ah yea but not this case.


Ex-Arm x Crunchyroll is about another kind of problem, a lot, lot less poetic than lack or "devotion and care".



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Adampk said:
Crunchyroll influence on anime production, japan disappointed...lol ( nice to see MAL people still has infinity iq).
First of all Crunchyroll is a american company. Which provide anime to american and other countries. Why would japan be disappointed?
Some great influence, all crunchyroll did was put "Crunchyroll original" sticker on some anime by feeding money to there owners.


Non of these anime mentioned were made by Crunchyroll. Only thing crunchyroll ever made was onyx equinox (which is not even a anime)
I really don't know what people in this forum are talking.
Crunchyroll is not anime studio. Their main work is distributors and licensing anime.
They are Video streaming service.
But this info may be bit too advanced for MAL intelligence...lol
People can be happy. funimation already bought crunchyroll. To be true, it probably won't change anything. But based on Mal intelligence, u can be happy.

Also MAL is not change.org...lol (Infinity and beyond...)

Firstly, I made it clear in my original message that I knew MAL means nothing. Secondly, stop talking in such a condescending manner if you haven't realised CR assigns budgets for their anime and all of these have ended up that way because of the tiny budget.


You do realize that this is not at all how the industry works right? Crunchyroll is most likely just part of the production committee. They are helping with the production, probably through funding, but none of these anime are being solely produced and funded by Funimation, and most of them would have likely existed whether or not Crunchyroll was involved.
Toonami has done the same thing at times.
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Arin-san said:
Petition to lynch the people that voted 'Yes'.

Jokes aside, remove all Western companies from having influence in Japan's business.


Agreed. This is the only real solution to stop cultural usurpers from ruining anime.






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ag_ said:

Firstly, I made it clear in my original message that I knew MAL means nothing. Secondly, stop talking in such a condescending manner if you haven't realised CR assigns budgets for their anime and all of these have ended up that way because of the tiny budget.


You do realize that this is not at all how the industry works right? Crunchyroll is most likely just part of the production committee. They are helping with the production, probably through funding, but none of these anime are being solely produced and funded by Funimation, and most of them would have likely existed whether or not Crunchyroll was involved.
Toonami has done the same thing at times.

CR Original literally means CR assigned the budget.
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It's worrying how the anime fandom is so ignorant that it doesn't understand that crunchyroll is a distribution and not a production.

embarrassed for japan lol ... should embarrass yourself for...

tons of moeblob, isekai, junk otaku self incert, fanservice pedo / incest

without Western influences there was no cult like Ghost in the Shell or cowboy bebop ... but the average anime fandom at low q.i

filled the page of the mangaka and artist with messages of cringe apologies ...

I don't know if you are really stupid or do it on purpose

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It's worrying how the anime fandom is so ignorant that it doesn't understand that crunchyroll is a distribution and not a production.

embarrassed for japan lol ... should embarrass yourself for...

tons of moeblob, isekai, junk otaku self incert, fanservice pedo / incest

without Western influences there was no cult like Ghost in the Shell or cowboy bebop ... but the average anime fandom at low q.i

filled the page of the mangaka and artist with messages of cringe apologies ...

I don't know if you are really stupid or do it on purpose


CR gives budget. That determines the production values.
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Raptor1986 said:
It's worrying how the anime fandom is so ignorant that it doesn't understand that crunchyroll is a distribution and not a production.

embarrassed for japan lol ... should embarrass yourself for...

tons of moeblob, isekai, junk otaku self incert, fanservice pedo / incest

without Western influences there was no cult like Ghost in the Shell or cowboy bebop ... but the average anime fandom at low q.i

filled the page of the mangaka and artist with messages of cringe apologies ...

I don't know if you are really stupid or do it on purpose


So you're saying basically every fully Japanese material is dumb or sick minded and the only good stuff came because of the western empire? Interesting...
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ag_ said:
Why do they keep doing this? Do CR really think this is what fans want? I know MAL doesn't mean anything in terms of production, but I'm curious about who actually supports CR still after Ex-Arm, Gibiate, TOG and GOH.


CR probably see the success of stuff like RWBY and, more recently, Beastars, and think...

Oh yes! CGI "anime", that's what fans want! Here have this low budget stuff.

And yeah some fans will probably eat it right up. Fans of RWBY and the like. But a huge chunk of people don't like that stuff.

Now, it's very possible to get good anime from a western company. Just need to pick a GOOD STUDIO.

For example, Netflix recently entered into a partnership with Mappa (and several other companies), to produce anime. And that's how it should be done. With a reputable studio(s). Also, a higher budget. The bigger the budget the better the anime produced (in theory)


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So you're saying basically every fully Japanese material is dumb or sick minded and the only good stuff came because of the western empire? Interesting...



never having said that, I said that without western inspirations there would not have been many cult titles, like the 2 mentioned. It doesn't have all the cult anime of the past.

Then I implied that my criticism is aimed at the otaku market of the last 2 decades.

Who calls crunchyroll a problem, for me the real problem as Japanese animation has become today.
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never having said that, I said that without western inspirations there would not have been many cult titles, like the 2 mentioned. It doesn't have all the cult anime of the past.

Then I implied that my criticism is aimed at the otaku market of the last 2 decades.

Who calls crunchyroll a problem, for me the real problem as Japanese animation has become today.

Fair enough, but surely you realize that you are judging by western standards what is cult or what isn't? The East and Japan itself have their own productions and value some works more than others, as they have their own culture.

And you can criticize the otaku market of today, but that doesn't change the fact that CR brought some terrible adaptations that even said market in Japan does much better - and that's with the high budget they have.
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ag_ said:
Raptor1986 said:
It's worrying how the anime fandom is so ignorant that it doesn't understand that crunchyroll is a distribution and not a production.

embarrassed for japan lol ... should embarrass yourself for...

tons of moeblob, isekai, junk otaku self incert, fanservice pedo / incest

without Western influences there was no cult like Ghost in the Shell or cowboy bebop ... but the average anime fandom at low q.i

filled the page of the mangaka and artist with messages of cringe apologies ...

I don't know if you are really stupid or do it on purpose


CR gives budget. That determines the production values.
My guy, why are you so hardheaded?
That's not how it works. You can have a budget of a trillion and it would still look like shit or you can have a budget of a shoestring and it would look amazing.

What it comes down to is the people working on it.
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process.
Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers.

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4 by Hime_Takamura »»
Jul 25, 10:43 PM

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KANLen09 - Mar 21, 2021

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May 17, 8:11 PM

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KANLen09 - Mar 14, 2021

26 by ionelHeredia »»
May 14, 8:23 PM
It’s time to ditch the text file.
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