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Jul 25, 2020 6:00 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Lol @ that green filler kuma and Sanji's face.

But wow, the climax of the episode and Zoro's fight had more effects than I expected. Toei apparently knows what the Zoro fanboys want to see.

Looking so forward to the new opening, the current one is ok, but I never really got into it.

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Jul 25, 2020 6:01 PM
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Ok, this episode here, was AMAZING!!! HOLLY MOLLY ZORO...
Jul 25, 2020 7:33 PM
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Amazing episode, great fight and animation.


Jul 25, 2020 8:01 PM
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Good Job Toei This Was Spectacular
Jul 25, 2020 8:20 PM
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who worked on the animation? that was epic
Jul 25, 2020 8:40 PM
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absolutely phenomenal animation work, even better then one-punch-man S1 fights.
I'm absolutely stunned.
Jul 25, 2020 8:44 PM
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Amazing episode. I hope sanji loses the invisible ability soon though, cuz he went from perv to offender quick.
Hi :)
Jul 25, 2020 8:55 PM
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Zoro is so OP, for the next week we have a new opening
Jul 25, 2020 9:12 PM
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In the beginning I thought they were gonna postpone the zoro fight another episode but I was mad happy when they showed it at the end.

Zoro fight 10/10 (Even though it lasted like 1 min)
Jul 25, 2020 9:17 PM

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10/10 episode

Luffy and zoro fighting and here sanji with his pathetic face
My hate for sanji getting increase
Jul 25, 2020 9:31 PM
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I'm getting so happy that each episode animations are slowly getting better and more dynamic like the series deserves, maybe 800 episodes later but I'll still take it.
Jul 25, 2020 10:02 PM
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Wano DBZ super sayan version 2 wtf.... They give us nice animation (thankful for that), WHY do they have to go and mess things up with Zoro going kaioken this time? This can't even be considered canon anymore!
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The fight was short but holy shit was that animation awesome.
Jul 25, 2020 10:21 PM
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Damn, that was one strong finish to the Zoro fight right there! San-torou style suits him best, after all. Props to the animators for giving us this deli-treat.

Luffy, meanwhile, is slowly grasping something but it certainly is taking a while now. I know that's only natural but a little skip near the perfection of that ability shouldn't hurt, I reckon.

Sanji's battered state on the other hand xD. He's lost all lingering trust now *face palm*. I wonder who that big rounded-face guy is...

Looking forward to the new Op next episode!
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Jul 25, 2020 10:54 PM

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Putting everything aside that last 4 mins was dope. Zoro hype!!! Zoro was bad ass and the fight was short but done really well. Animation was dope but tbh toei kinda needs to upgrade their sound effects, sometimes they don't go very well with the scenes.
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ChMel said:
Wano DBZ super sayan version 2 wtf.... They give us nice animation (thankful for that), WHY do they have to go and mess things up with Zoro going kaioken this time? This can't even be considered canon anymore!

Note: can't help but laugh when I see people believing those auras are haki!


It makes sense to think the aura can be passed as "haki", bc it happens when 2 strong people collide with their weapons, something like an aura comes out of both weapons. so my point is, if an aura can come out of a weapon it would be no surprise if it can come out of someone

And the only difference I see from that last scene where zoro cuts Kamazou is the aura (if thats what ur referring to) , and imo that part was pretty cool and its not messed up at all
Jul 26, 2020 12:09 AM

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Hawkins, you sure you don't need to patrol the bathhouses? Maybe just in case ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Pretty sure Drake would like that too
Zoro's scene was really dope too see. You know you fucked up when Zoro starts smiling and says something about a riceball

Jul 26, 2020 12:31 AM
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animeizboring said:
ChMel said:
Wano DBZ super sayan version 2 wtf.... They give us nice animation (thankful for that), WHY do they have to go and mess things up with Zoro going kaioken this time? This can't even be considered canon anymore!

Note: can't help but laugh when I see people believing those auras are haki!


It makes sense to think the aura can be passed as "haki", bc it happens when 2 strong people collide with their weapons, something like an aura comes out of both weapons. so my point is, if an aura can come out of a weapon it would be no surprise if it can come out of someone

And the only difference I see from that last scene where zoro cuts Kamazou is the aura (if thats what ur referring to) , and imo that part was pretty cool and its not messed up at all


Haki normally is invisible. In order for us to understand how it works and when used, Oda colored it black - the so called coating. Period.

Throughout the whole series, it was never implied that haki takes the form of an "aura", some kind of glowing around one's silhouette. This is just the imagination of the Wano anime staff (and the current director's love for auras - in case you don't know he used to work on DBZ). Do you know what we call something that is present in the anime, and not existent in the manga? -> Filler/Non canon.

Sorry friend, but it is not haki. And EVEN if the studio's intention was to give form to haki, then they messed it. Because we've seen in quite a few instances in the Wano arc, characters clad in aura while not even engaging in combat (I mean those usual red, blue and purple auras).

As for the last scene, even if it's cool, even if it has nice animation... it's closer to DBZ than OP (that's why I said Kaioken).

You may like it, a lot of fans may also like it, it may look cool and nice, but the whole miindset behind the wano adaptation (too bright, auras everywhere, haki visualization not consistent) is messy. That's my opinion.

P.S. For example, Stampede also had that kind of art-style, and almost the same staff worked on it - and it was pretty good... No non-existent auras...
What exactly gave birth to the need to turn the Wano arc into a flashshow???
Jul 26, 2020 1:03 AM

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ChMel said:
animeizboring said:


It makes sense to think the aura can be passed as "haki", bc it happens when 2 strong people collide with their weapons, something like an aura comes out of both weapons. so my point is, if an aura can come out of a weapon it would be no surprise if it can come out of someone

And the only difference I see from that last scene where zoro cuts Kamazou is the aura (if thats what ur referring to) , and imo that part was pretty cool and its not messed up at all


Haki normally is invisible. In order for us to understand how it works and when used, Oda colored it black - the so called coating. Period.

Throughout the whole series, it was never implied that haki takes the form of an "aura", some kind of glowing around one's silhouette. This is just the imagination of the Wano anime staff (and the current director's love for auras - in case you don't know he used to work on DBZ). Do you know what we call something that is present in the anime, and not existent in the manga? -> Filler/Non canon.

Sorry friend, but it is not haki. And EVEN if the studio's intention was to give form to haki, then they messed it. Because we've seen in quite a few instances in the Wano arc, characters clad in aura while not even engaging in combat (I mean those usual red, blue and purple auras).

As for the last scene, even if it's cool, even if it has nice animation... it's closer to DBZ than OP (that's why I said Kaioken).

You may like it, a lot of fans may also like it, it may look cool and nice, but the whole miindset behind the wano adaptation (too bright, auras everywhere, haki visualization not consistent) is messy. That's my opinion.

P.S. For example, Stampede also had that kind of art-style, and almost the same staff worked on it - and it was pretty good... No non-existent auras...
What exactly gave birth to the need to turn the Wano arc into a flashshow???




This is where you misunderstood me, first of all I never said it was canon ,i know the aura was original by the studio

MANGA SPOILERS
And secondly


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animeizboring said:
ChMel said:


Haki normally is invisible. In order for us to understand how it works and when used, Oda colored it black - the so called coating. Period.

Throughout the whole series, it was never implied that haki takes the form of an "aura", some kind of glowing around one's silhouette. This is just the imagination of the Wano anime staff (and the current director's love for auras - in case you don't know he used to work on DBZ). Do you know what we call something that is present in the anime, and not existent in the manga? -> Filler/Non canon.

Sorry friend, but it is not haki. And EVEN if the studio's intention was to give form to haki, then they messed it. Because we've seen in quite a few instances in the Wano arc, characters clad in aura while not even engaging in combat (I mean those usual red, blue and purple auras).

As for the last scene, even if it's cool, even if it has nice animation... it's closer to DBZ than OP (that's why I said Kaioken).

You may like it, a lot of fans may also like it, it may look cool and nice, but the whole miindset behind the wano adaptation (too bright, auras everywhere, haki visualization not consistent) is messy. That's my opinion.

P.S. For example, Stampede also had that kind of art-style, and almost the same staff worked on it - and it was pretty good... No non-existent auras...
What exactly gave birth to the need to turn the Wano arc into a flashshow???




This is where you misunderstood me, first of all I never said it was canon ,i know the aura was original by the studio

MANGA SPOILERS
And secondly


Well it seems like you misunderstood me a bit as well. I perfectly well understand that haki can be "projected" on items etc (the specific occasion you mentioned I interpreted it as conqueror's class, but I meay very well be mistaken).

My issue is the Kaioken/chakra cloak - call it whatever you want. And also all the occasions when we see characters glowing, even though out of combat (quick reference to what I mean ep. 927, red around Orochi before transforming, blue around Kyoshiro in the end) - it's like the studio tries to make the "spirit"/rage/intentions of a character visualised. This is what I find bad/weird/messy. The intentions of the studio obviously are for the best of their interest (they are not naive, they want a better product = revenue), but I seriously find it wrong when they take up certain liberties which consequently lead to misconceptions. Let me explain what I mean with an example: most of the anime-only fans, after today's episode, think that the black/red aura around Luffy during the LuffyvsKaido was unconscious ryo.

Where I'm trying to get is, too many special effects are sure to lead to confusion.

p.s. About the "laughing" part, sorry if I was aggressive - it's not my intention to offend anyone
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Did Komurasaki just fall for my boi Zoro ^^
Jul 26, 2020 3:58 AM

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Aozure said:
Did Komurasaki just fall for my boi Zoro ^^


Who wouldn't fall for Zoro
Jul 26, 2020 4:05 AM

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Aozure said:
Did Komurasaki just fall for my boi Zoro ^^


Who wouldn't fall for Zoro


Yep, I mean he kinda got his own harem already. Robin, Tashigi, Perona. Bonney got close to him as well xD(it's just a shame that the Monet fight didn't have some implication) Even I would fall for Zoro.

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Jul 26, 2020 4:45 AM
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Seriously dope with amazing zoro battle with superb effects.
Damn toei knows whats what one piece fans want.
Excited for next episode!!!!!!

Jul 26, 2020 6:19 AM

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The final attack looked incredible. Even if it was a little too over the top...
Jul 26, 2020 6:57 AM

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That Zoro fight was amazing, probably costed them around 10 episodes worth of budget for that one minute scene lol. Worth it. Kinda wish they'll continue to invest more in the episodes as the show progresses towards the end of the story.
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Jul 26, 2020 8:54 AM

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who worked on the animation? that was epic


The onigiri was animated by Katsumi Ishizuka. He also animated Luffy's storm against Crocodile and his jet Gattling against Rob Lucci as well as many other scenes.
Jul 26, 2020 9:32 AM

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animeizboring said:
who worked on the animation? that was epic


Here is one guy, who happens to be from the United States

https://twitter.com/MitchJGonzales/status/1287358318877593600


Now then, HOLY SHIT THIS WAS A GREAT EPISODE!!!

Luffy's fight continues to be fun, Orochi's voice actor is awesome. He only had a little bit in this episode but wow he is great.

Sanji with the pineapple face< OMG I WAS DYING!!!

And lastly but certainly not least Zoro....HOLY FREAKING SHIT THAT WAS EPIC!!!! I want all fights to look that amazing!!!
Jul 26, 2020 10:28 AM
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ChMel said:
Wano DBZ super sayan version 2 wtf.... They give us nice animation (thankful for that), WHY do they have to go and mess things up with Zoro going kaioken this time? This can't even be considered canon anymore!

Note: can't help but laugh when I see people believing those auras are haki!
this haki aura stuff was always there just not this extent. why it can't be considered as canon anymore? i don't see any problem here. it makes those speedy animated moments visualy more watchable...
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Fahim654 said:
ChMel said:
Wano DBZ super sayan version 2 wtf.... They give us nice animation (thankful for that), WHY do they have to go and mess things up with Zoro going kaioken this time? This can't even be considered canon anymore!

Note: can't help but laugh when I see people believing those auras are haki!
this haki aura stuff was always there just not this extent. why it can't be considered as canon anymore? i don't see any problem here. it makes those speedy animated moments visualy more watchable...


This aura is not haki. The purple cloaking of Zoro is not haki. That's exactly why it can not be considered canon - it's an anime addition.

The speedy animated moment (while pretty well done) would be more clean and tons better without a purple "cloak" on Zoro. It is misleading and distracts from the actual attack. A little and only when needed in order to showcase something (as it was in the WCI arc) was cool. Wano has turned into a "weird" imitation of DBZ.
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Omg did zoro die at the end? Did the madlads really kill zoro? It can't be damn that was unexpected. He's not gonna be the greatest swordsman after all? wtf man can't believe it, he died to a random thug. This series just dropped to a 5/10 for me, they killed zoro wtf were they thinking? why did he die, for shock value? damn, it was so bad, heroic and all but what?
I wonder how the crew's gonna react when they hear he's dead? Didn't robin love him, what's gonna happen to all their relationship build up? Zoro didn't even beat mihawk yet? shit that's a bad decision by oda.
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Amazing episode!

The fight between Zoro and Kamazō is CRAZY, just like the animation! He is hyper BADASS!
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ChMel said:
Fahim654 said:
this haki aura stuff was always there just not this extent. why it can't be considered as canon anymore? i don't see any problem here. it makes those speedy animated moments visualy more watchable...


This aura is not haki. The purple cloaking of Zoro is not haki. That's exactly why it can not be considered canon - it's an anime addition.

The speedy animated moment (while pretty well done) would be more clean and tons better without a purple "cloak" on Zoro. It is misleading and distracts from the actual attack. A little and only when needed in order to showcase something (as it was in the WCI arc) was cool. Wano has turned into a "weird" imitation of DBZ.
you're kinda overreacting. i don't know what's misleading here and not even all the conflicts has this kind of aura stuff that it would seem like the imitation of DBZ. just a few powerup moments has this kind of direction to make it more dramatic. seriously! i think you have to chill and enjoy the show. this kind of thing happens in every shounen animes where manga don't have something that anime has to make it more visually eye-catching....
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Omg did zoro die at the end? Did the madlads really kill zoro? It can't be damn that was unexpected. He's not gonna be the greatest swordsman after all? wtf man can't believe it, he died to a random thug. This series just dropped to a 5/10 for me, they killed zoro wtf were they thinking? why did he die, for shock value? damn, it was so bad, heroic and all but what?
I wonder how the crew's gonna react when they hear he's dead? Didn't robin love him, what's gonna happen to all their relationship build up? Zoro didn't even beat mihawk yet? shit that's a bad decision by oda.
if you're really thinking Zoro died in here then pardon me but you seriously are an idiot. watch the preview of the next episode if you're that confused then come to the discussion. and no Robin don't love him in that way and they didn't have any relationship buildup. you're making stuffs on your own 🙄
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Fahim654 said:
ChMel said:


This aura is not haki. The purple cloaking of Zoro is not haki. That's exactly why it can not be considered canon - it's an anime addition.

The speedy animated moment (while pretty well done) would be more clean and tons better without a purple "cloak" on Zoro. It is misleading and distracts from the actual attack. A little and only when needed in order to showcase something (as it was in the WCI arc) was cool. Wano has turned into a "weird" imitation of DBZ.
you're kinda overreacting. i don't know what's misleading here and not even all the conflicts has this kind of aura stuff that it would seem like the imitation of DBZ. just a few powerup moments has this kind of direction to make it more dramatic. seriously! i think you have to chill and enjoy the show. this kind of thing happens in every shounen animes where manga don't have something that anime has to make it more visually eye-catching....


My reference to DBZ is not only for the two occasions when we saw full-bodied-aura "cloaks" (Luffy vs Kaido, and this one right now) but to various cases throughout the Wano arc, when characters outside battle suddenly started glowing red, purple or (in Kyoshiro's case) blue. Without reasoning - that's my issue. No haki display, no powerup moments, just plain glowing.
As I mentioned already, I would find it cool if that was shown in critical and significant battles (as was during the WCI) in order to hype us.

I also understand perfectly what you said about shounen animes and visuality, but in every such anime there was some kind of reasoning. For example, in Bleach it was spiritual energy (fair enough), in Naruto it was chakra (even commented that way in the anime), in Fairy Tail it was magical energy, etc.
In One Piece's case, what exactly is it?? I repeat, if it was to depict haki - even if I didnt like it, I would understand it. But atm, it's just random glowing which was introduced after 900 episodes (a little out of time)...

Anyway, I am aware that not everyone has the same tastes. Respected. If you (and a lot of other fans) enjoy it, I'm glad for you. Tbh I just can't get into it no matter how hard I try... My approach concerning the visual effects is that of a minimalist: less = better. My opinion though.
Jul 26, 2020 2:15 PM
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santoryu rengoku onigiri
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Movie quality animation at that last part. Definitely the best animated Onigiri.
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Did Komurasaki just fall for my boi Zoro ^^

Oh just wait my friend
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Luffy still trying to train his haki so he would be able to overcome his opponents without touching them. That green bear definitely looked funny. The haki effects are just awesome. Even if it isn't meant to be visible, it just gives such a nice flavor and shows how much really is behind some of these attacks.

I just wonder how long Queen will drag this out, because I don't think Luffy will get tired any time soon.

Pretty bad that the people of Orochi found out about the half moon symbol and began to catch rebels. With that the surprise effect of the attack on Orochi and Kaido sadly is gone.

I'm sure that's the craziest state Sanjis face ever was omg hahahahaha. I mean after him seeing Nami naked it's no wonder :D

Who the hell is this Yasuie guy? He knows Kanjuurou and Shinobu and most likely also Kinemon and the rest. I have somewhat of a feeling that he might play an important role, but I could be wrong. Definitely excited to see what it is about him.

The fight between Zoro and Kamazou was amazing. The animation was an absolute eyegasm. Holy Moly. 100% the best Onigiri I've seen so far. Great job Toei. Seems like Komurasaki was as astonished as most people here haha. Imagine Zoro x Komurasaki. I'm in for that :D

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"We are getting close to the final. What type of awesome villains can we expect!?"

Introduces a man inside a teddy bear costume. Yeh sure, best villain right here.
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The fight between Zoro and the mysterious scythe-wielding assassin was mesmerizing. Rackless it may be, but purposefully getting pierced through the shoulder by a scythe to lead the way for the enemy's defeat is quite the cunning, yet unexpected plan. I am sure Usopp would have had a few words to say at such a bold act.

This is interesting. It seems like this woman is, in fact, Kumorasaki, no doubt about that. So then, did Kyoshiro have a hand in this? I am sure he is a powerful swordsman in his own right. That said, it is highly unlikely he would have missed her vital organs unintentionally, not unless he planned to have her spared.
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I'm really happy with the animation quality of Wano, especially during the fights. If only Dressrosa had that treatment...

I'll miss "Over The Top". It has become one of my favourite openings.
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As awesome as it is to see Zoro beat that creepy dude with one attack using his santoryu, I'm just a little disappointed that it took him to use three swords when he should've easily beaten him with just one, much more with two. And what's with that Kyoshiro guy? I really think he's a rebel himself and he let Komurasaki go.
Jul 27, 2020 9:19 AM

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Great Episode!

Kept me entertained from start to finish. The One Piece anime seems to be getting better from what I've seen. The animation during the Zoro scene was amazing.
Jul 27, 2020 10:45 AM

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Very very great episode, the animators truly outdid themselves on this one.
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Well, the plan got completely down, now the attack won’t be a surprise, which was a key factor. Shinobu’s words weren’t false, but I trust that Law is a competent man, he can save his crew without messing with the plan, is his decision how to do it. Fuck off big guy, you’re not gonna get through your turn with Zoro. Zoro’s animation when he finally defeated Kamazo was amazing.
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"We are getting close to the final. What type of awesome villains can we expect!?"

Introduces a man inside a teddy bear costume. Yeh sure, best villain right here.


Yeah the green bear was redicilous, that was actually a filler character. Not a character that exists in one piece.



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As awesome as it is to see Zoro beat that creepy dude with one attack using his santoryu, I'm just a little disappointed that it took him to use three swords when he should've easily beaten him with just one, much more with two. And what's with that Kyoshiro guy? I really think he's a rebel himself and he let Komurasaki go.


Don't underestimate Kamazo, he's not just some random fodder. There is more to him then meets the eye, thats all I am going to say there.



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My goodness, the animation during Zoro's battle = GORGEOUS
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Wow, the animation in this ep. was superb. 5/5 to the ep. solely because of that. They had really saved their budget for this ep. Especially Zoro's last attack. Three-sword style Purgatory Onigiri,
, had an amazing animation. Damn, it was good and intense. Hard to look away. Luffy's color of Haki punch at
was also amazing. Yep, the animation in this ep. was good.

Funny to see what Nami had done to Sanji,
. Hard to take the man serious. Poor Trafalgar. Hopefully he will see his crew again. About time we saw the true identity of Komurasaki, though this has been spoiled to me (be myself, LOL). This is gonna be interesting to watch. Aaaand let's not forget Zoro got another b***h in his harem club. xD
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