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Jun 16, 2020 6:40 PM
#1
When watching AMVs of Japanese disco, electro or future funk music on YouTube, we are treated to visuals from shows and movies that came out 20-40 years ago, and I think of how aesthetically pleasing and well-animated they look. But now that technology has improved and as art styles have evolved to what it is today, those shows and their art styles are now relics of the past. As someone who enjoys watching older shows, and as someone who never got to experience anime until the late 2000's with kids shows on TV (Pokemon, Yu Gi Oh, etc.) and only starting to dive into anime a couple years ago, my question to you guys is do you wish you could be in the era of the 80's and 90's so you can experience those shows firsthand? And if you did grow up with those shows, do you wish you could relive those moments? Edit: when I say "be in the era", I mean to only experience anime (without worrying about living there and experiencing world events and whatnot). |
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Jun 16, 2020 6:51 PM
#2
No,I don't. I am happy and satisfy with the current era. However, I have got to relive 90s anime before. |
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Jun 16, 2020 7:00 PM
#3
Even though I do like shows like Yu Yu Hakusho, I wouldn't say that I would want to live in the decade it was made. However, I wouldn't mind experiencing decades like the 70s and 80s for some of the old American music that existed then. I have a bit of an old soul despite how young I am. Compared to today's music, I enjoy the American music of the 70s and 80s better. |
Jun 16, 2020 7:07 PM
#4
I’ll say no, and I’m a huge fan of the mainstream popular anime’s of those days, (DBZ, Pokemon, Yugioh, Naruto), though if it meant I wouldn’t be able to try other things like Fate, Fairy Tail, or One Punch Man; I’m going to say it’s not worth wishing to live back those memories that happened a long time ago. |
Jun 16, 2020 7:07 PM
#5
No because I wouldn't be able to actually experience all of those shows first hand in the first place. Distribution was incredibly limited back then if you didn't live in Japan and speak Japanese. Even if I could options are vastly better today. Watching something as it came out really isn't that special and not that different from seeing it decades later. Plus I can just imagine the troubles of earlier fans trying to track down stuff at video rental stores instead of just streaming it. I don't see why I would want to live in the 80's as that would then just prevent me from enjoying all the great content we have today instead of being able to enjoy both. |
Jun 16, 2020 7:07 PM
#6
Literally nothing is stopping you from watching old anime in the present. I don't even get the question. |
Jun 16, 2020 7:11 PM
#7
Perhaps i'm taking your question too seriously. But i cannot conceive of experiencing something from another time that i wasn't a part of. Currently i see human civilization as an ever progressing species to a better way of life, and wouldn't change where i am to go anywhere into the past. I can tell you i don't wish to relive past moments as they're what i use to experience what i experience now, i want to keep experiencing more and more, building a better me. Anime is obviously for the animation, but the core of every anime for me is the story. I have no problems watching any era. |
Jun 16, 2020 7:17 PM
#8
RuanNgoc said: Frankly speaking, I don't. I am satisfy with the current era. Moreover, with the evolution of technology, we can watch many old school animes and read a lot of mangas as we want. By using google, we may find it on the Internet (both legal and illegal site). For instance, I am interested in LoGH. Finding an vintage anime like it is not a hard task. However, if I grew up with those classic shows, I do wish I could relive those moments without doubt. With your assumption, these shows become a part of our childhood. Yeah pretty much the big issue with his view point. Even if you are a fan of just older anime unless you speak Japanese or lived in Japan I mean the current period is also better than if you were trying to be a fan in the past due to more stuff getting translated or are now easily available. Pretty sure LOTGH didn't get fansubbed until like the mid - late 2000's if I am right? Legally it wasn't available until a few years ago. |
Jun 16, 2020 7:18 PM
#9
RuanNgoc said: Don't watch the next episode previews.For instance, I am interested in LoGH. |
Jun 16, 2020 7:47 PM
#10
RuanNgoc said: Yeah, the previews spoil EVERYTHING.Lunilah said: RuanNgoc said: For instance, I am interested in LoGH. Because of the spoiler, I presume? I've just started watching it so that's my guess. |
Jun 16, 2020 7:49 PM
#11
As someone who has watched animation from the 80s and 90s in their respective decades, no, I like the inevitable progression of technology and how animation looks now. Watching older anime is still enjoyable for the story and characters, etc. but modern animation is superior. |
KruszerJun 16, 2020 7:54 PM
Jun 16, 2020 7:51 PM
#12
Jun 16, 2020 7:56 PM
#13
Yup, without second thoughts. But I'd add also the 2000's anime. Anime now is using proven formulas to only lead to sell more and more merchandising, leaving behind most of the quality and passion that should be on every anime series. I know that anime, also like manga, is a business, but today it seems that is more like trying milking a one, single, skinny cow to supply a demand for a whole country. Also, I understand that, after the global economic crisis, everyone, including this industry has to raise the prices on EVERYTHING, and also, the salary for all the staff members of an animation studio aren't enough to keep the dream alive, and plus, the horrible work schedule, extra work time without pay, dealing with the (jerks) bosses, retakes, last-second changes and all the shit every memeber has to deal with... (That being on the passion, creativity and above all, the near-slave work for the animation staff) Also, we shouldn't forget that the laws has been changing and become more strict over the years... For the stories and plots, after the 2000's, more specifically, the 2010's, anime series have been so incredibly boring... I don't believe that I didn't have gotten over my nostalgia over my "childhood series" and I can't (or don't want to see) the true value of new anime. Nope, most of the modern anime is, if not labeled as mediocre in the best scenario, it's a pile of shit. Through the decade since 2010 to this year 2020, there has been a handful of anime series that has been interesting for me. Modern isekai series, like Konosuba, like Isekai wa Smartphone, like Re:Zero, like Tensei shitara Slime (whatever-the-fuck-is) they are if not hve the same plot, only with "different" characters and names... they are almost the same series... Also, series created only to show cute/sexy or handsome anime characters with a total shitty, if not, totally forgettable and cheap storyline and a poor character development. I'm not asking for intellectual anime series, or a super, incredible, epic, mind-blown series. Also, I'm not saying that EVERYTHING back then, was awesome and superb, unlike these days... But when I'm watching some anime from those years, makes me wonder what the hell happened through these years to abandon all the hopes for creating something better that the last thing that had success, or rivalizing with the current hit anime series with another, more innovative, or creative, or maybe, interesting concept/character/story/etc. There is really a few series (both that I liked personally or not...) that really caught my interest throughout this hideous decade of quality drought... |
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Jun 16, 2020 8:14 PM
#14
AnimaExZero said: Yup, without second thoughts. But I'd add also the 2000's anime. Anime now is using proven formulas to only lead to sell more and more merchandising, leaving behind most of the quality and passion that should be on every anime series. I know that anime, also like manga, is a business, but today it seems that is more like trying milking a one, single, skinny cow to supply a demand for a whole country. Also, I understand that, after the global economic crisis, everyone, including this industry has to raise the prices on EVERYTHING, and also, the salary for all the staff members of an animation studio aren't enough to keep the dream alive, and plus, the horrible work schedule, extra work time without pay, dealing with the (jerks) bosses, retakes, last-second changes and all the shit every memeber has to deal with... (That being on the passion, creativity and above all, the near-slave work for the animation staff) Also, we shouldn't forget that the laws has been changing and become more strict over the years... For the stories and plots, after the 2000's, more specifically, the 2010's, anime series have been so incredibly boring... I don't believe that I didn't have gotten over my nostalgia over my "childhood series" and I can't (or don't want to see) the true value of new anime. Nope, most of the modern anime is, if not labeled as mediocre in the best scenario, it's a pile of shit. Through the decade since 2010 to this year 2020, there has been a handful of anime series that has been interesting for me. Modern isekai series, like Konosuba, like Isekai wa Smartphone, like Re:Zero, like Tensei shitara Slime (whatever-the-fuck-is) they are if not hve the same plot, only with "different" characters and names... they are almost the same series... Also, series created only to show cute/sexy or handsome anime characters with a total shitty, if not, totally forgettable and cheap storyline and a poor character development. I'm not asking for intellectual anime series, or a super, incredible, epic, mind-blown series. Also, I'm not saying that EVERYTHING back then, was awesome and superb, unlike these days... But when I'm watching some anime from those years, makes me wonder what the hell happened through these years to abandon all the hopes for creating something better that the last thing that had success, or rivalizing with the current hit anime series with another, more innovative, or creative, or maybe, interesting concept/character/story/etc. There is really a few series (both that I liked personally or not...) that really caught my interest throughout this hideous decade of quality drought... Then you would still be better off watching now due to ease of access. Plus this whole post is very much just idealizing the past. The anime industry has always cared about merchandising in some form, animator abuse was always been an issue. The stories and plots aren't that much better and you bring up isekai fantasy ignoring that classic DnD inspired fantasy like Loddoss War or Slayers have just as many issues that isekai do especially in regards to a lack of world building. You had characters in the past also created to attact fans like Puru was for MSG ZZ. None of this is new. You are free to enjoy the periods you do but I wish we had way less over-generalizations about anime then and now. I think the more I see the more I realize how if anything stagnant the industry has been for decades. |
BilboBaggins365Jun 16, 2020 8:24 PM
Jun 16, 2020 8:23 PM
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Jun 16, 2020 8:23 PM
#16
nah, I find modern anime much more appealing from an artstyle perspective and overall in general. Plus voice acting in a lot of older anime were pretty bad compared to nowadays (since many seiyuu were just starting and didn't have that many references to help compared to today) |
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Jun 16, 2020 9:48 PM
#17
VHS players cost a fortune back then and only way to watch multiple episodes of the same series was if you rent a VHS tape with 3-4 episodes and not all episodes would be released usually either. Though if you had the money you could connect two video players and copy the rented tapes. It was very rare to watch a complete series on TV too. Even if you sat religiously every day or week, you had to deal with TV stations irregular schedules and sometimes they would not broadcast any episodes at all and without warning. Or series would be incomplete and you would not know about it or complete but with missing episodes. TV schedule magazines were not clear either, listing everything as kids TV programm. Smaller stations were even worse, showing à series without warning. Despite that they had more content for kids, it was a nightmare to navigate Also everything was filled with awesome toy and junk food breaks. But despite this chaos, it felt quite an experience, preparing you for the future. |
Jun 16, 2020 10:03 PM
#18
Only if they have a remake with better animations or something like what was done with Hunter x Hunter(2011) |
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Jun 17, 2020 10:37 AM
#19
No, I'd rather take a chance to pre-live( I don't know if that's even a word) in 2030 |
Jun 17, 2020 10:41 AM
#20
Sorry but I'm proud to live in the worst timeline. |
Jun 17, 2020 10:43 AM
#21
i mean i can just watch older animation whenever i hated having to rely on what was in my video store as a kid yay internet |
Jun 17, 2020 10:45 AM
#22
I'm pretty fuckin glad I don't have to buy expensive ass home video releases or stay up till late at night so I can record or watch something. I'm happy I get to watch them now instead. |
Jun 17, 2020 10:51 AM
#23
I can literally any anime I could think of but back in the 80s/90s I could only watch a small handful of anime. I'm fine as it is now |
Jun 17, 2020 10:55 AM
#24
I can go back and watch them now, so not really. I do sometimes wish we could revert to the older animation style, though. |
Jun 17, 2020 11:00 AM
#25
It would be nice if I was living in japan so I would have access to everything without having to go through some weird process to import |
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Jun 17, 2020 12:58 PM
#26
I am experiencing/reliving them now and will continue to. The re-makes, re-adaptations, sequels, side stories, alternative versions and settings. Which have been coming out and hopefully will continue to. I'm watching them and they motivate me to search for the 80s and 90s original adaptations, so that I may watch them as well. If I hadn't when they first came out. |
Jun 17, 2020 1:12 PM
#27
Honestly yes. If only because I want be in the studios to see the technical process behind the anime. I live for those special effects. |
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Jun 18, 2020 7:27 PM
#28
Jun 18, 2020 7:33 PM
#29
With today's tech you can watch anything assuming it isn't lost media like the Phantom Blood movie But yeah I get the point, I once watched a video from Gigguk wherein they talk about how life as an anime fan was back in the evangelion days and such. I'm not so sure if it would be that exciting for me, even if I do relive it, given the chance - since the 2000s or so anime I grew up have been very nostalgic for my peers but not that much for me. I only have nostalgia for those I actually liked. |
Jun 18, 2020 7:51 PM
#30
I've seen the way 80's anime looks, and I'll pass. This is one of the rare instances where artstyle is still a major factor to me. It took me a while to even gain interest in 90's anime,and right now that's the oldest I'm willing to go. |
Jun 18, 2020 8:07 PM
#31
No, because I already experienced them when I was a really young kid like Cardcaptor Sakura, Evangelion, Pokemon, DBZ, Ghost in the Shell, etc. While all of them were good, during that era most of them were experimental or too plain and simple, good memories from past, but not completely necessary. |
Jun 18, 2020 8:19 PM
#32
I don't really get the question, there is indeed instances where I definitely prefer the older visual and there is also shows like maison ikkoku, city hunter and ashite knight which I grew up with that give me a sense of nostalgia both of my childhood and toward that time period even though I never lived through it but I don't see what stops you from experiencing or re-experiencing these shows nowadays. |
Jun 18, 2020 8:21 PM
#33
Not really. I grew up on some 80's and mostly 90's anime. Most are severely overrated (Urusei Yatsura, DBZ, Sailor Moon, Ranma, YuYuHakusho, Slayers). And quality of those decades was mostly found in either manga or OVA's which were inconsistent as all hell. Also animation quality on average was mediocre (if it wasn't a movie or some budgeted OVA) but compensated with more detailed character designs on average. That is the only positive I can think off. Everything else is pretty dated. Overall anime improved in some aspects in the 2000's and 10's but also regressed in some others that I'm not gonna go into here. Things are a lot less black and white than people make them out to be just cause they are blinded by nostalgia or the few great titles that survived the test of time and now are seen as the definitive representative of that era, which they aren't. Kenshin, Evangelion, Berserk, Hunter x Hunter, those weren't common at all thus what made them stand out from the rest. |
Jun 18, 2020 8:29 PM
#34
90s Kid here. And.....I DID watch anime in the 90s. And guess what? Anime today IS BETTER. |
Jun 18, 2020 9:29 PM
#35
I grew up in the 80s/90s and I did watch what was available on TV or VHS, but honestly, I was never that much into it until much later - although I enjoyed some of the shows as a kid I wouldn't watch them today, and even if I try older anime from that era here and there, I do prefer the stuff from around 2000 till now. |
Jun 18, 2020 9:48 PM
#36
Sure, I love this era of anime. Of course, it wasn´t easy to obtain VHS or it might not even show on TV, but still, discovering them with your friends was a great sensation. It seemed like... The fact that them weren´t super easy to watch made them gain more value. You savored each episode more. Were I older at the time, I´d have been in the biggest city of my country, which have a Japanese neighborhood packed with anime and manga since then. Not to mention cel art is beautiful. I love so much the 80s/90s aesthetic. |
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Jun 18, 2020 9:50 PM
#37
I am in fact watching a lot of 80s and 90s anime. everything was better back then. it really makes you think how much harder it was to make shows back then but they were infinitely better in every way. style didn't evolve, it devolved. now everything revolves around making shows as cheap as possible, making them as fast as possible. they didn't have those options back then. even fanservice was better, girls were getting naked and walking around like that casually being cool with it instead of screaming at the mc then beating him up. do I wish I could relive it? no, I'm already doing that. do I wish shows from 2014 just switched back to cel animation? YES. it pains me to say but while they use digital technology to produce anime now, they're not using their tools properly. |
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Jun 19, 2020 5:13 AM
#38
Honestly, there's nothing stopping any of us from watching old anime. 80, 90s, even older anime like Minky Momo, Kimba and others can usually be found if you know where to look. About the most difficult aspect of watching them is avoiding spoilers. Which, in my experience, isn't that difficult as long as you stay out of discussions of the anime in question until you're finished with it. Because a lot of people assume everyone's seen the thing that's thirty or forty years old. Especially if it's pretty well known. |
Jun 19, 2020 3:38 PM
#39
I watched project a-ko recently and that's from the 80s so nothing is stopping you from watching them unless you care about legal ways to get it or watch it which in that case is way more difficult for a lot of reasons half the time I miss the 80s and 90s they were pretty good and they had a lot of passion and effort in them and there was more good since anime wasn't overproduced that also goes for the 2000s which is my favourite decade of anime and it was also pretty good the 2010s compared to all what came before it with some solid exceptions was the most boring and worst decade the quality is bad the writing is shit everything sucks about it |
Jun 19, 2020 3:48 PM
#40
Yes, if I could relive those moments again, I'd happily take the offer. Not for the quality of the content, but for the sentiment. Growing up through 90s was one of the best things I could imagine for myself, tbh. Those were one of the happiest moments in my childhood and it's closely connected to watching Pokémon and Digimon every weekend when it was airing. There was no internet, so you kind of had to keep up with it otherwise you'd be lost. It gave me something to look forward every weekend and something to talk about at school because honestly... back in the day everybody watched Pokémon, not only anime fans. Also there was no judging shows for its content, only for the entertainment aspect. |
Jun 19, 2020 3:58 PM
#41
I rewatched some anime I watched as a kid recently. Now the episodes move so quickly, but I have a greater understanding of the themes now. I very much prefer being an adult watching 10's anime. |
Jun 19, 2020 6:02 PM
#42
Err, I am re-living it. A lot of the stuff I watched on cable in the 90s I bought on Blu-Ray (or DVD if that was the only option.) Now we have easy access to watch these older shows which were hard to come by back then - either tape the broadcast or pay big bucks for the VHS collection if you can even find it. Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Ninja Scroll, Project A-Ko, and even Venus Wars ... enjoyed them immensely again as an adult in their full uncensored, unedited glory. With the streaming sites, anime seems more disposable than ever. ~12 episodes and done. It's too bad even good shows never get another season - endless supply of merch and figures instead. |
Jun 19, 2020 11:12 PM
#43
Na ah we were wondering why do we get the same doraemon episode rerun (still watch it though year after year). Tried sailor moon it was too girly, still too girly today lol. I like mirmo zibang songs, despite not liking the show premise. those anime still look nice and watchable today. |
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Jun 19, 2020 11:16 PM
#44
I wasn't alive at that time but I thing anime now have much more to offer than the 90/80 ones did , we have more source material that allow us to make a greater series |
Jun 20, 2020 12:03 PM
#45
I don't understand. You can still watch anime from the 80s, even in 2020. |
Jun 20, 2020 2:34 PM
#46
AshitaNoJonas said: I don't understand. You can still watch anime from the 80s, even in 2020. It's a privilege thing. To experience it you must be able to afford a time machine...and those are quite expensive you know...also you must have connections to get a permit or have enough money to bribe the Time Patrol. |
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