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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Let’s gooo, everything’s coming together for a Hina comeback. The 4chan leaks were slightly off, but Natsuo pledging to live his life for her and keeping the rings is a great sign. Haruka looks adorable and it’ll be interesting to see what type of parenting arrangement they have set up. Given that it’s a 5 year timeskip, I’m hoping next chapter we see Hina wake up. |
Marinate1016May 18, 2020 11:56 PM
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The reward of enduring all the pain for so long & paying attention to all the little details that others dismissed as mere red-herrings is partially here ladies & gentlemen. SS Hina, we've weathered many storms to get here... so to those still on board, I salute you! So like, as someone who believes that unless the story's a tragedy, there has to be some pay-off to the character(s) that endured the most & the readers who rooted for 'em, I'm personally VERY glad that Rui & Natsuo was concluded in this chapter, and am now looking forward to some more wholesome Natsuo x Hina in the little time we have left. Sure, we got plenty but not while he was fully aware of her feelings ~ it was wholesome but minus the romance part ~ but no need to hold back on that anymore. As for Rui, with her letting go of Natsuo and so that he can be with the one he loves most, her emotional growth ~ the most interesting part of her character ~ is now complete. She's learned how to love, got memories, still has her cooking career ahead of her, and ofc, a very tangible memory with the kid lol (still dunno if that was needed, but oh well, Sasuga Kei's story...). |
| "I want you to stay by Hina-nee's side." One line that redeemed Rui imo. She's finally grown out of her jealousy towards her sister, and she's becoming a woman. Natsuo talking to Hina at her bedside was very touching, he finally knows what's up, and now that he's going to live for her sake, I can only look forward to the next few chapters! Haruka is a cute fuzzball of joy as well! Now if you want me, i'll be collecting the salty tears of Rui stans c: |
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| Welp so looks like we'll be getting a Hina x Natsuo end. Natsuo's daughter looks adorable. |
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| What if Hina woke up during the 5 year time gap and told Natsuo to get back with Rui because she isn't happy with his decision. You never know what Sasuga will try to pull. 3 chapters left. Let's see how it will end. |
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| cause my niga OP didn't listen to my request last time I thought I'd paste it here Short_Circut said: @MakingTheMaouCry you should pin this to the OP Bonus story is up (Volume 27 bonus), looks like we get another sex scene bois. This time it's Ritsu and Momo takes place after the Nat. and Rui announcement of their marriage. Afterwards, Al remarks how shocked he was about the announcement and then gets teased by his girlfriend about wanting to follow suite. Kiriya drives Miu home and Miu gets all defensive saying Kiriya will definitely be happy when he gets married lol. The 2 new members had a nice moment together as well Some more characterization for Momo as well. She didn't really have good relations with her siblings(?) so she was always jealous of seeing other siblings playing together. Ritsu promises they will have ""lots"" of kids in the future Also confirmed the series will end with chap. 276 on June 10th, so last stretch. but moving on as expected once again Rui lets her guilt get the better of her and does some questionable things. I agree with Tsukiko, there was no real need to actually call off the marriage, my only assumption is that they could postpone it until Hina wakes up so she can be there to celebrate. idk if forcibly pairing Natsuo and Hina is even beneficial for any side at this point, like Nat. would just be together with Hina out of guilt for her actions, Hina would feel like shit because all her hard work led to a soulless relationship with Nat. and Rui is gonna be guilt stricken because she'd feel like Hina is a better pairing for Nat. until Chef boi comes along |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| Man. I guess all those chapters ago of both Rui and Hina fighting fair and Square for Natsuo's love was just utter non-sense. I honestly at this point do not know what is going to happen. All predictions I've come up with or read are just thrown right out the window and into the trash. I had thought Rui was 100% over and now this chapter. Honestly I would lose a shit load of respect for both Hina and Natsuo if Hina and Nat are end game. I mean quite frankly both end games are pitiful. Baby end Game with Rui is not how I wanted that to happen. (Even though Haruka is fucking adorable) And Hina almost being Isekai'd is a fucking cop out to sway the emotions of the people surrounding Natsuo to take Pity on Hina for what she has done. I really like Hina I do, but if she wakes up eventually (or has already awoke) and her and Natsuo are married. Quite frankly Ill find her to be a selfish bitch. I think the "I'm sorry" from Natsuo to Rui was the nail in the coffin for Rui. If that is too much I apologize but at this point in the manga I am just drained waiting week to week of this utter fucking non-sense writing and I want it to be Over. |
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Tr1ckster said: I just don't understand this manga anymore. Seriously if Nat will end up with Hina, then I'll never again read Sasuka Kei work. OK I understand that they may feel guilty about everything that happened to Hina, but they love each other and have kid on the way so why they have to sacrifice their happiness? If Hina wake up, and just be like "ok let's be together since you r not with my little sister anymore" then seriously ill flip. She'll be the worst character in history of drama/romance manga. But I still want to believe that she will speak with Nat and Rui and convince them to get married, just think about it, who wants to be with someone, who is in love, and have a kid with someone else? Guilt based relationship is worst than being alone. Just so you know I'm 100% Rui fan, but that's not why I want her to end up with Nat, it's just that I think they should be together because to this point their relationship was evolving, growing, and deepened through this story. Hina as character is really pathetic for me, she was with Nat like 3 months, they broke up, haven't seen each for almost a year, and she still can't get over him? And she knows that he is in love with Rui so... I don't know, for me this is absolutely insane 0 character development in her case. She can't even tell him truth about her feelings. Rui on the other hand was fighting for her relationship with Nat, always pushing forward, even when they broke up she was looking at the bigger picture, hoping for happy future with him, and now what? Everything was taken away from her because Hina was sacrificing herself? I can't stand this. For me Hina is antagonist of Rui and Nat love story, and to you Hina fans... Can you really be happy if she ends up with Nat like that? (sorry about my crappy eng, it's been a while) TL;DR: Rui and Nat should get married because they have a baby and dated longer than Hina and Nat did. That's not how soap operas work, sorry to break it to you. To answer your question at the end, most Hina fans don't really care anymore if she ends up with Natsuo or not, we want to see her genuinely happy. So if she gets with Natsuo or ends up moving on from him, it doesn't matter as long as she's finally able to give a genuine smile. Hina never could tell Natsuo how she felt either because of circumstances or lack of willpower. For a good majority of the story, Natsuo was with Rui, and even if she didn't know for a good part of it, she couldn't just waltz back into Natsuo's life after dropping a bombshell on him by suddenly breaking up with him and disappearing. She wasn't gonna go "Hey buddy, i'm back, wanna bang?" She was always looking to make his future better and wanted to wait until he got successful and stable financially and career wise, hence the "Wait a little longer" note. Hina's lack of willpower comes from the fact that she wants to protect rather than give in to her feelings. She wants the best outcome for everyone, and often times, in her eyes, she has to take things on alone to assure the best possible outcome for the people she cares about. She never told Natsuo and Rui about Okunugi because she didn't want to worry them right when they were at their happiest, and same thing for Tanabe. Is that a good thing? Probably not. But it shows her resolve for trying to secretly make things work out even if she doesn't benefit directly from her own actions. It's called selflessness, a trait that Rui lacks alot. You're acting like Rui calling off the marriage and Natsuo saying he'll live for Hina's sake is a bad thing for the Nat and Rui ship, but they literally told each other they loved each other before each going home seperately. They can like each other without being married, they can raise the kid without being married either. Rui is growing up and the sign is that she's letting go of her jealousy she had towards her sister since the beginning. The want to feel what her older sister felt, the want to be able to not be treated as a child by her sister, who would tell her that until she knew what it was like to be held in the arms of the person she loved, she'd never understand love. Now she does, and now that she has the child, Rui doesn't want to take away her sister's only source of joy and happiness. It's that simple. |
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| I am just here to watch how many 1-voters are here, thanks. Really interested how hard this chapter is going to break previous one's record. This particular chapter wasn't THIS bad, but just... why it feels like Natsuo and Rui broke up? They stayed friends or what? Because they didn't reschedule wedding, they completely cancelled the thing. Are they even living together or separately? Guess have to wait next chapter to get my answers. (still trash, but at least it was OK) |
| To be honest, I gave up around Chapter 150 because of the direction which the plot was going and my personal experience. Best girl never wins. But I'd always checking this forum just in case. It seems that the day for me to read the manga and anime again from the very beginning is imminent. I am proud of those Hina fans who were able to endure all that rui rubbish until today. |
| honestly I'm sure hina would have agreed to be a part of their relationship, they didn't need to get married... like how the heck are they going explain to their kid their relationships if natsu and hina end up together. Whilst I understand why rui didn't want to get married and just raise the child together as parents and not lovers, they should’ve wait for hina to wake up to make the final decision. |
| This chapter sucks, this manga sucks, but the kid was cute ngl. |
| What a total bullshiiiiit |
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| Oh my God this manga is pure trash |
 ᴛʜᴇʀᴇ ɪꜱ ɴᴏ ᴡᴏʀꜱᴇ ɪɢɴᴏʀᴀɴᴄᴇ ᴛʜᴀɴ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴏꜰ ᴛʜᴏꜱᴇ ᴡʜᴏ ᴄᴏᴍᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ᴛʜᴀᴛ ᴛʜᴇɪʀ ᴘᴇʀꜱᴏɴᴀʟ ᴄᴏɴꜱɪᴅᴇʀᴀᴛɪᴏɴꜱ ᴀʀᴇ ᴜɴɪᴠᴇʀꜱᴀʟ ᴛʀᴜᴛʜꜱ. |
| This is entirely appropriate: So being with one sister, and being married to another sister, is possible, and manageable, as long as all three can balance each others emotions. It is difficult, surely, but possible. I know of one in real life instance of this, but I won't say who to protect their privacy. But as I said before, the polyamory ending is not on the table, or at least I don't think it won't be. So the child is Haruka, which translates to "distant, remote". Is this on purpose. If the parents were not married, the child is defined to be a bastard. How such, illegitimate children go through life, and the societal precautions that has is not entirely sure. Hopefully the decision of Natsuo and Rui not to marry, but still raise their child in a caring and loving relationship, if not a romantic one, will dispel any negative social aspects which might befall the child being born outside of a marriage. madawy said: hina ending is good, but harem ending would be a lot better. Would their parents be OK with that arrangement? |
JALU3May 19, 2020 7:30 PM
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| Tbh, this chapter felt like a double edged sword. On one side, I felt their mutual decision showed their love for Hina, their growth in maturity( in just one chapter for Rui🤔 ), and their desire to let their sister be happy. On the other side, it felt like a guilt trip based decision, and I don't think of it as a good way to end the manga. Like, I wanna see what Hina says. I just want her to finally be happy, but even after all this, if Hina makes NatsuoxRui happen, I'll be happy to dance on every Hina haters face till they😈 |
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| It goes without saying that almost no one expected such a turn of events, but come on! I've read novels were the whole think flips the tables at the last two pages, but this is the closest it has felt like a total disrespect to the relationship one has built with the characters. It doesn't matter the ship, either Hina or Rui, this is not the way you end the progression of these three characters, this feels like going back to square one, where no one can really understand what kind of relationship they have with the other, that's not progression, that's just a waste of time, a complete circle where at the end you end up questioning if you ever really move. Yeah, Nat became a writer (sort of), and Rui seems to have her own path too through cooking, maybe the author just didn't have a way to find a path for Hina in that relationship or out of it, but to force her to totally unatural relationship between three people (four if we count Haruka) is definitely a total waste to a great character like Hina. Maybe the altruistic will from Hina to help those two seems to have gotten in the way of finding a decent route for her, so instead of trying to solve that issue it seems that the decision was basically "let's erase her will and volition by putting her in a state where other people will definitely need to make decisions for her instead". What is the difference between that and killing her? Was it really that bad to leave Hina be lonely on her own will? Not like I liked the way she felt really lonely at the end, but that was the choice she made and one should come to respect that. I don't really understand what the author might do in the next chapters, but at this point it doesn't really matter. Three characters completely wasted and an unnatural ending taken out of some cheap soap opera. Edit: the marriage ending wasn't looking good either, but compared to this, I believe there would've been better opportunities to take from there to add little more drama than the oddball we've been given. |
EgotrampMay 19, 2020 9:39 PM
| What a shitty Chapter... God, I've been reading this manga starting almost from the beginning... And what I got? Well, if it would still be somehow sane, but it's just terrible development, reasons and so on... I feel sorry for Haruka. |
| I dont know what to feel about this as things unfold. I'm glad my girl Hina was chosen and to see that Rui was adult to let go of Natsuo... but they still have a child together and Rui withdrew so he can end up with her sister. So complicated their relationship. |
You can just be yourself. Do things your own way, one step at a time. You'll get there. Just be yourself, you'll be fine." ~Fruit Basket |
I would just like to share this: easier to read here as you can zoom in or dl: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/540363278547943424/712641098652319754/DnK_draft_1-2-3.jpg Those are Sasuga Kei's early drafts of DnK. Note that Hina's always the center-piece character for her "teacher x student taboo relationship". DnK won't work without her. I saw comments on reddit and some here as well on "180 wf!? 200+ chapters of Nat x Rui wasted!" and I'm scratching my head. Folks have to realize that Hina's present throughout those 200ish chapters too, once she returns from the island, she's never far from Natsuo. She's by his side at his most IMPORTANT moments, supporting him, which he even comes out to say in 273. Rui was there as his girlfriend but Hina was there as his LIFE PARTNER, unable to commit romantically because of multiple factors like guilt them getting caught & the past break-up, Natsuo being dead-sure that Hina moved on from him(I mean it took A LOT for him to stop chasing Hina) and ofc, him already being in a relationship with Rui. If this was Seo Kouji's story he wouldn't even give as much importance to the other girls besides the fated one/one with true love so I'm a bit surprised Sasuga gave this much attention to Rui in the 1st place. I mean, in those early drafts she's a side character in one and replaced by a girl called Akko in the other 2. |
| Hmmm, I've skipped alot of chapters, but I can reread them anyways. So Hina vs Rui in the end, but Rui let Natsuo go and send him to Hina's side. But both agreed to raise their child. Then a timeskip of 5 years. A few possibilities: *Hina after waking up, has amnesia. Can't regain her memories. Hina x Natsuo to the end. *Hina wakes up. learns of Natsuo and Rui's decision, accepts it and lives with Natsuo, happily ever after. With many loveable children. Smirks at Rui. *Hina wakes up, regains her memories, still a martyr sends Natsuo back to Rui. Natsuo x Rui *Hina doesn't wake up, comatose or she dies or Rui kills her secretly. Rui x Natsuo. |
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testamentKAISER said: *Hina doesn't wake up, comatose or she dies or Rui kills her secretly. Rui x Natsuo. This is not School Days for Rui to kill her, come on. |
| @ManlyTear There are quite a few examples when the author finishes the story not as planned in advance. For example, Rowling in Harry Potter planned to kill Ron somewhere in the middle of the book series. The problem here is not even who will be the endgame. The problem is how it is done. Here we literally got Chapter 216 out nowhere for the second time. This is very sad. |
Akagi-kun said: @ManlyTear Here we literally got Chapter 216 out nowhere for the second time. This is very sad. Out of nowhere? Really? Rui x Nat's relationship was going sour due to her own insecurities & jealousy. Natsuo was going full simp mode even standing in the rain when he had a deadline, getting sick, just because of not wanting to hurt her feelings. She was upset that he even confided in Miyabi 1st about his inability to write anymore instead of herself 1st "because he didn't want to worry her". She was definitely right in why she ended the relationship, although it was selfish on her part because she never let him decide. Rui comes to the realization time & time again, this particular page being especially another part of her emotional growth that her love for Natsuo isn't as strong as Hina's, and this isn't even knowing the full extent of Hina's feelings as she recently overheard from Marie, although she still never really acts on what she thinks(which is understandable, because it conflicts with her own desire to be with Nat) until 272/273 and lets go of him. |
ManlyTear said: Akagi-kun said: @ManlyTear Here we literally got Chapter 216 out nowhere for the second time. This is very sad. Out of nowhere? Really? Really. Out of nowhere. By the way, you can see the rating for this chapter above. Apparently everyone is happy. |
I'm genuinely surprised how people say this about Hina but not about Rui considering how selfish's Rui been throughout the entire story. Not once did she do anything selfless that went also meant sacrificing something in return, until 272/273 - took her a whole...but at least her character's full circle now. - From the beginning up until 114 when she gets together with Natsuo, Rui is increasingly on the offense trying to get inside his pants. Not a problem with that at all, if it weren't for the fact that... - She's aware Hina still loves him but doesn't tell him & proceeds to make moves on him in her absence. And I mean, she tries REALLY HARD to get his attention, even getting Natsuo to compete with his friend Al over her. - Okay, all's fair in love & war, Hina wasn't present and might've not came back, so Rui shouldn't be blamed for trying to seduce Nat. She then gets into a relationship with him but instead of their bonds growing stronger over time(all that Rui x Nat development Rui fans speak of), the relationship gets increasingly toxic, she get's insecure & jealous and culminates in her leaving him at HIS WORST - not because of outside circumstances, or anything threatening their relationship, but just because it's what she decided is best for them.(She was kind of right about it, but she also didn't try to work on it instead) - Most reasonable men wouldn't give a girl who left 'em like that the light of day again unless she'd come back apologizing(unless they'd simp out for her), but Nat's a simp when with Rui so conveniently gets back to her and he apologizes instead(lol). - Rui knows of her wrongdoings but gets back into a relationship again because she still loves him, which is understandable, but she's still always the one receiving, never giving. - Only now has has her emotional growth been fully completed, only now did she truly sacrifice something, out of love. Hina's miles ahead of her in that regard. I swear, if Hina was like 1/4 as selfish as Rui was people would be calling her some variant of bitch-sensei from Scum's Wish or something. |
I still fail to see any arguments that debunk what I just said. The majority are Rui fans which were literally cheering at the fact that their ship was in lock-down because of a random pregnancy(which I'm still not a fan of myself mind-you, even if Sasuga uses it as the personification of her relationship with Nat, memories & emotional growth thx to the experience would've sufficed). Can't even imagine why tbh, given that she's a combination of selfish + mundane, without any tragic back story to give reasons to being this selfish. Even strictly in terms of waifu material, her traits & personality put her in the lower-tiers, lol. Note that I still appreciate her emotional growth either way though, which her fans ironically don't because it cancels the ship, lmao. |
ManlyTearMay 20, 2020 11:28 AM
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