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Feb 7, 2020 6:45 PM
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This is a question that haunts me every day, I can't find a proper answer anywhere. I don't think there is medication for this.

Is the impulsive feel of helplessness and retaliation curable?
Take Revenge on someone who took the most precious aspect of your life doesn't sound like a bad idea.
Is revenge sweet or bitter? Can you just move on?

''Enemies' gifts are no gifts and do no good.''
Feb 7, 2020 6:52 PM
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bortaS bIr jablu'DI' reH QaQqu' nay' Fate Saber.

Feb 7, 2020 7:22 PM
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*WRITES ENEMIE'S NAME IN DEATH NOTE*
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Feb 7, 2020 8:37 PM
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I have been through the revenge phase. Lol, no medication is going to help unless you stop thinking straight.

The question if revenge is worth the cost depends really on what the revenge is and the costs, so I say it depends. Revenge is like a goal, similar to goal setting, it depends on what you want to achieve. Whether that be positively achieving things that others prevent you from getting and sticking it to their face when it comes to times when they try to bring you down but you are still doing well and alive. Or doing negative things to affect your enemies such that you bring ruin to their life and force them back to ground zero, having to rebuild their life.

Generally, it depends on how you want to go about it. It is not to say you can't do both positive things and negative things simultaneously but trying to screw somebody else in return create a cycle of hate and anguish repeating on both participants unless you sincerely enjoy playing a game like this so it is best to stick with the more positive ones you can do for yourself while proving that you grow stronger each time they try to create loss in your life. Ironically, if you try to return the favor by negatively affecting them, it makes you wonder if those people you took revenge on ever learn their lesson if they did wrong and it brings the question if both parties learn that repeating this process out of hate and anger is going to end well for them, which usually just create more problems for both.

I think in order to know if you can conquer the impulsive feel of retaliation and the griefing aspect of loss, one needs to assess if one can recoup the loss by being even better than before, and ensuring future similar incidents do not happen again. If one can get over the overwhelming emotional part, you can definitely find that there are ways to move pass thinking negatively about the situation.

I don't know if revenge feels sweet or bitter because that depends but it certainly is brighter for you to focus on getting over the loss by making goals to ensure that you come out on top in making positive changes for yourself than trying to get yourself in more troubles, repeating the process your enemies have done to you, getting yourself to doing perhaps even the same act they are doing. At least, psychologically and mentally, you are focused on creating positive effects and not questioning yourself if you are just like your enemies all the time, which will help differentiate you apart from your enemies in the disaster.
Feb 7, 2020 9:24 PM
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Revenge is almost all the time never worth it since someone is going to get hurt/affected by it. It brings out the worst in people.
Feb 7, 2020 9:27 PM
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Revenge is not worth it. Every time you do something because of revenge you end up feeling hollow and disappointed. It never fixes anything, just makes it worse for other people.
Feb 7, 2020 9:29 PM
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meh, did it one time, ended up unsatisfied. i'd probably just move on but avoid the person (then they somehow find a way back into my life and i'm back at step 1 sigh)
Feb 7, 2020 9:38 PM
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Not really.

Tried to get revenge on someone once who did something really fucked up. I feel guilty for what I tried to do alot. Like it made me a momentary psychopath and it was awful.

Revenge aint worth it.



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Feb 7, 2020 10:59 PM
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Revenge is so broad though so idk. Hypothetically speaking, if that precious aspect of my life was my beloved and someone stole her from me, I wouldn't get revenge from something so petty. Now if someone took the life of my beloved, that's a bit different. Would I seek revenge in the form of justice? Yes. Would I take the person's life? Who knows. I'd have to experience the situation to know whether I can think logically enough or if my sanity would break and the only thing filling my mind would be to seek vengeance.




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Feb 7, 2020 11:28 PM
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If you have ever read or watched Berserk, then you know the answer.
Feb 8, 2020 12:26 AM
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Revenge is sweet if you hate them much and don't feel much guilt at that moment. But it turns bitter later as it haunts you back and also there'll be disappointing chain reaction. So, it's not worth the cost. Science says compassion can boost your "happiness" which is we all want. So practicing compassion may be the answer for both. But still, if you don't show your somewhat impressive capabilities, you'll still be getting picked on, so you also need to play it smart..



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Feb 8, 2020 12:43 AM
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The only revenge that's worth it is against the one who created this world.
Feb 8, 2020 1:30 AM
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Only if you have wits to execute it properly. Revenge is far better than regret and wallowing in a river of sorrow and despair~
Feb 8, 2020 1:38 AM

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I attempted to do revenge on my ex girlfriend once. It just wasn't worth it. after like 6 months I apologized to her for what I've done and basically just tried to become a better person after that.

Feb 8, 2020 1:41 AM

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It's not healthy to focus on revenge. Find other ways to use your repressed vengeful emotions like maybe turn to art, writing, or music.

Revenge can also start a chain of revenge that can lead to not being liked.
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Feb 8, 2020 2:12 AM

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Revenge is nothing but a vicious cycle. It's generally healthier to just move on.
Feb 8, 2020 2:14 AM

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grudges can be built up from the want for revenge, you should just try and distract yourself and forget about it. (if you can.)

Answering your question:

is it worth it? most of the time, no.



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Feb 8, 2020 2:24 AM

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Yes it is, your inner self will feel like you accomplished something.

"Don't give up after failing just twice.
We'll be able to do it next time.
Failure is the stepping stone to success."

Feb 8, 2020 10:02 AM
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no dude. always love, hate will get you every time.
Feb 8, 2020 10:29 AM

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Revenge will likely to only pass and begone if you just let it be. If you lit it up and follow your desire... one day it might backkfire at you. Sometimes it feels bitter too. So it's not worth it.


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Feb 8, 2020 11:14 AM

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You're just poisoning yourself by getting all worked up about something while the person you're mad at probably gives no shits about you and the situation at hand, you're the only loser here when you're plotting revenge. Is it a very deliberate and serious plan? Yeah, expect legal consequences if you intend to harm the other person in any significant way. Is it just petty revenge? Well, it might make you feel better for a teeny-weeny bit of time, but you're better off considering whether the effort you put into it is worth the time of day.
But don't get me wrong, you may forgive someone for being a dick, but that doesn't mean you have to suddenly like them or have a shift in opinion about them. Just let it go and avoid contact with the person who's done you wrong.
Feb 8, 2020 11:30 AM

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I've never had something done to me that I thought merited revenge. If someone's fucking with me, I'm happy enough just standing my ground to have them stop. You'd have to pull some Jeffrey Dahmer shiz niz on a s.o. for me to seek revenge.
Feb 8, 2020 2:54 PM

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yes revenge is worth it, imagine not feeling the great feeling of Revenge, that's almost like never eating a cake once in your life
Feb 8, 2020 3:26 PM

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As the saying goes, living well is the best revenge.

In other words, the best revenge is t-swift's song "I forgot that you existed."

Revenge still means giving what they did to you power.

The only way to take away that power is to forget about it.


now i will tell you what ive done for you
fifty thousand tears ive cried
maybe ill wake up for once
screaming deceiving and bleeding for you
and you still wont hear me going under
dont want your hand this time ill save myself
just when id thought id reached the bottom
im dying again
Feb 8, 2020 3:55 PM
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Depends on the magnitude in which they deserve it. If they contribute nothing to society and continue to hurt other people then they probably deserve karma bitchslapping them in the face
Feb 8, 2020 9:17 PM

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it's always worth it

if you don't get revenge or go down trying, you are a cuck. plain and simple
Feb 8, 2020 9:46 PM
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Revenge seems worth it but you'll never be satisfied.
Is it really worth it then?
Feb 8, 2020 10:04 PM

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If I can make the shit company that I used to work with go under, I would feel good.

Feb 8, 2020 10:46 PM

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I'm a spiteful person, I don't care if it's worth the cost or not. If someone has done something to me that hurt me enough to want revenge I'll drag myself down to hell if it means dragging you with me.

BlakexEkalb said:
Revenge is almost all the time never worth it since someone is going to get hurt/affected by it.

Yes, that's the point isn't it?

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Feb 9, 2020 12:18 AM
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being fixated on vengeance is just detrimental to yourself, plus the ambition spent on getting revenge can be better used somewhere else.
Feb 9, 2020 3:28 AM

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I'd go with it's not worth it overall though I guess it does depend on the cost.

Everytime I've ever felt the need to get back at someone or something, there's always a hint of guilt before I've even done anything. Sure, it probably would feel good in the moment but that feeling wouldn't last and you'd be left with the consequences of your actions.

The phrase: 'don't burn your bridges', comes to mind when I think of revenge.
Feb 9, 2020 3:45 AM
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its bad since world history shows the cycle of hate never ends like today terrorists kills then rich countries fights back and kills more terrorists that fuels more hate towards rich countries like USA which is the world police right now

but even if its bad it does not mean people will stop doing it since its part of human nature (the endless battle between nature vs nurture) and with CRISPR genetics editing technology maybe future humans can do eugenics to remove that bad nature in the gene pool already
Feb 9, 2020 6:29 PM

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It depends on the motivation behind the revenge.

If the motivation is good, then the revenge can be good.

If the motivation is just simply ego, it will not be worth it, unless the person was such an asshat that you can gain some good quality shadenfreude.
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Feb 10, 2020 4:09 PM
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From what I've noticed, not really.

It's a complete waste of my time, resources and emotion. I could be spending that time on making my own life better.

Feb 10, 2020 5:22 PM

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Lose shitty friends. Gain self-esteem. I think I made a pretty good deal.

Three cheers for sweet revenge. MCR reference intended.

Feb 10, 2020 6:57 PM

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Flevalt said:
Fate_Saber88 said:

Is revenge worth the cost?


Yes.
It's always a once in a lifetime experience when you can dish it out.
It's a priceless reward in itself.
That otherwise just haunts you forever like a ghost or an uncurable chronic illness if you suppress the desire by listening to pacifist loonies.


Fate_Saber88 said:

Is the impulsive feel of helplessness and retaliation curable?
Take Revenge on someone who took the most precious aspect of your life doesn't sound like a bad idea.
Is revenge sweet or bitter? Can you just move on?


Let's say it like this:
Revenge is an extremely common theme in stories, so it's not a rarity as an experience.
However, revenge and the associated experience are usually reduced to a matter of simply letting go, where revenge stories tend to play out in such a way that at the end of the story the vengeful character will realize how bad the idea of revenge is. The story will try its worst to paint revenge as a one-way ticket to doom, where the avenger always digs 2 graves, one for the target of their emotions and one for themselves.

The theme is so strictly and boringly copy-pastedly choked out in every story that it appears in. And is so frictionlessly norm-conform that it's not much different from fan service that takes peoples figurative dicks and jerks them off.
The same bs mentality that psycho-pass lives off of, just busting a nut over nonsensical yet popular outlooks on life for a media-to-human circlejerking experience.

When people want or need something, they admire those who just take it.
Yet when it comes to situations that involve sin-like principles like jealousy or revenge, that same determination loses its appeal for no good reason.

The idea to distance yourself from your emotions, like letting bygones be bygones is nothing but poison that drains the life spirit out of you, so that there is more room for others to get what THEY want because every step you take back, they can step another one forward.
You can fruitlessly keep telling yourself that an interaction involving you and someone else is not a personal matter to distance yourself from it emotionally, but you know and you can feel that that's a lie because everything that happens in your life is personal.

If someone came to you, did something onto you and afterwards tells you "it's nothing personal", obviously from their standpoint they are saying that because they got reasons for their actions other than you.
But would it really not be a personal matter to you, between you and that person?
The person who speaks such doesn't understand their own feelings. That there could be nothing more personal going on in that moment than sharing that experience between the two of you because it's literally a single moment that only you two experience in that way at that time, a unique and singular event.

The same goes for most such situations.
Most often when people do onto others, it's without any grudge against the person(s).
It's darwinistically speaking just a part of life.
But it's still a matter involving your person.
The moment you forget that and are like "lifetime is way too precious to be wasting on such negative emotions", all you're doing is to run away from your feelings and from who you are.
It's defeatism and escapism in a much purer form than e.g. consuming entertainment media because you are trying HARD to lie to yourself about what you want VS what you can and should do.
That's the right answer I was expecting.
I came to the conclusion if I just let it go I would accept defeat and live forever in defeatism.

Thanks for your long insightful post, quite pragmatic to say the least.
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Feb 10, 2020 7:06 PM
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@Fate_Saber88

What!? You are expecting a right answer? Hey you. Life is yours to picture. What is our posts even for! This discussion is mainly for pure mayhem~
Feb 10, 2020 7:44 PM

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BrightFlashLight said:
@Fate_Saber88

What!? You are expecting a right answer? Hey you. Life is yours to picture. What is our posts even for! This discussion is mainly for pure mayhem~
It doesn't mean I will actually do the very thing. Life is mine and I'm free. I also reply just for mayhem since I want to see blood spilling all over MAL.
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Feb 11, 2020 12:05 AM
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Typically, no. In rare circumstances, yes. It really all depends on you, though.
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Feb 14, 2020 6:29 PM

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It really depends on what you are seeking for vengeance.
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