| I think people just love action and feats of superhuman capabilities. Kinda similar to how superhero movies are incredibly popular in the mainstream. It's simple and visually stimulating and can easily grab the imaginations of audiences all over. |
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| it has more continuous plot and violence than western animation or such also notice how the chinese only invented shounen manga; i assume this is like shounen stories is the babby first writing in asia |
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| the action, characters, world setting, emotional backstories, etc. all the things we love about battle shonen that interest us the more we progress through the anime. |
| Most of the non anime fans who don't know much about anime don't expect to see bloody violence in anime(which they think are same like other cartoon just because of animation). They are caught by surprise after seeing battles in animated form and add a bit of story to it and they will praise it without even knowing a shit about it. That's what happens. Well, first my friends hated anime because they thought it was just some cartoons and is meant for kids just because it is animated. But I managed to get them to respect anime after I show them elfen lied and they watch little anime now but only shows like tokyo ghoul, one puch man etc. Again Dbz is famous for same reason and is good compared to other shows that broadcast on TV. |
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| I'll quote myself from a similar previous thread: (BS are the most mainstream anime because of...) - The epic, grand scale feel of their stories and settings - The large and likable casts you get attached to given their lengthy runs - The cool and flashy action sequences that make your blood pump faster - The highly emotional and dramatic moments that tug your heartstrings - The lighthearted and funny moments that put a smile in your face - The awesome OSTs that stick in your mind forever In sum: because they follow a perfect recipe to make something really attractive and memorable to the general consumer. Also because they are the most marketable ones, and in general, they are very easy to watch. |
| I can't add anymore to this conversation that hasn't already been said, but one thing that irks me as an adult who watches anime is that, while it's okay for a younger generation to see battle shounen and use it as a gateway into the anime medium, adults tend to see it and think "oh, that stuff's just for teenagers," and whatnot. The thing is, I wish more people were aware of the genres that appeal to all ages, so non-anime fans of any generation could easily come to love and appreciate it. My mom watches anime now (subtitled, too), but she would've been ignorant to it for her entire life if it weren't for my influence. She particularly loves slice of life, romance, and other stories of the emotional nature, but has also enjoyed thrillers like Steins;Gate, Erased, etc. She just sees it the same way she looks at foreign film, and like myself, believes that more people should watch it. In her words exactly: "It's art, music and a good story all in one.. what's not to love about that?" |
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Greyleaf said: I can't add anymore to this conversation that hasn't already been said, but one thing that irks me as an adult who watches anime is that, while it's okay for a younger generation to see battle shounen and use it as a gateway into the anime medium, adults tend to see it and think "oh, that stuff's just for teenagers," and whatnot. The thing is, I wish more people were aware of the genres that appeal to all ages, so non-anime fans of any generation could easily come to love and appreciate it. My mom watches anime now (subtitled, too), but she would've been ignorant to it for her entire life if it weren't for my influence. She particularly loves slice of life, romance, and other stories of the emotional nature, but has also enjoyed thrillers like Steins;Gate, Erased, etc. She just sees it the same way she looks at foreign film, and like myself, believes that more people should watch it. In her words exactly: "It's art, music and a good story all in one.. what's not to love about that?" I like your mom's attitude, I feel pretty similarly. Honestly, battle shonen is probably the least appealing genre of anime to me. I'm not really that into super-hero movies/comics either. I tend to really like either psychological animes like Death Note or I like high school themed animes like rosario and amagami ss. |
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Ryuk9428 said: Greyleaf said: I can't add anymore to this conversation that hasn't already been said, but one thing that irks me as an adult who watches anime is that, while it's okay for a younger generation to see battle shounen and use it as a gateway into the anime medium, adults tend to see it and think "oh, that stuff's just for teenagers," and whatnot. The thing is, I wish more people were aware of the genres that appeal to all ages, so non-anime fans of any generation could easily come to love and appreciate it. My mom watches anime now (subtitled, too), but she would've been ignorant to it for her entire life if it weren't for my influence. She particularly loves slice of life, romance, and other stories of the emotional nature, but has also enjoyed thrillers like Steins;Gate, Erased, etc. She just sees it the same way she looks at foreign film, and like myself, believes that more people should watch it. In her words exactly: "It's art, music and a good story all in one.. what's not to love about that?" I like your mom's attitude, I feel pretty similarly. Honestly, battle shonen is probably the least appealing genre of anime to me. I'm not really that into super-hero movies/comics either. I tend to really like either psychological animes like Death Note or I like high school themed animes like rosario and amagami ss. Lol we may have different tastes, but we can sure agree on battle shounen and superheroes xD |
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| because the big 3 were running on tv a decade/two decades ago in the west, so they ve got a lot of international popularity |
| Maybe because "battle shônen" is an american made-up classification and everything on the internet tends to be flowing from the USA. @Ryuk9428 I'm sorry but I was watching DB then Z when the USAs were still talking and writing about Akira (and later some 80s-90s OAVs). DBZ was imported way after the american ruckus about jap.animation. |
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Rei366 said: Maybe because "battle shônen" is an american made-up classification and everything on the internet tends to be flowing from the USA. It could be that DBZ was the first anime that had major impact in the US and its the most well known battle shonen show. I don't know if battle shonen is the most well known kind of anime in Japan though. |
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| also wtf is the "Big 3" if there'd be a better classification for the "Big 3" it would be one piece, naruto and bleach. don't think MHA is quite up there. |
| "How and why is battle shonen the most mainstream anime genre that even non-anime fans know them?" I guess there is always something random at the top of the mainstream. Like soccer (you know - the real football) is world's most mainstream sport game. Why not basketball or volleyball? Why even a ball game? Is soccer more approachable, more dynamic or more enjoyable? Nope. Just a random trend which took root and got huge industry + advertising behind it. People above mentioning battle shounen having more action, long narrative and epic scope. Well these are my main complains against it:  1. Too little action. When in battle characters talk and talk and repeat their arguments...actually in result very little action, mainly buildup. (For example from what I have seen Black Lagoon has action for about 50-80 Naruto episodes.) 2. Those 500+ episode counts come mainly from watering down some relatively simple stories with: level up arcs, tournaments arcs, side quest acrs, the villain captures the MCs but releases them acrs ect. 3. The epic scope usually comes around episode 100+ or later because authors usually test waters with more episodic or somehow short term arcs and begin real planning and complex setting up after the title becomes popular. You must be already following the anime before this happens - it's not obvious from the start. I think battle shounens are more approachable for new viewers not because they have some specific qualities but because they are already popular and have this huge advertising industry behind them. Their's fandom is the most vocal too. Why battles shounens became that popular in the first place? I guess there are some historical reasons behind that and when something becomes trendy industry will invest money to exploit this trend and try keeping it afloat. |
alshuMar 18, 2019 1:39 AM
| You forgot another reason that is they are long continous series.. A long series gives more times for people to watch it, talking about it with others, and other person can try it too and catching up with it, especially when they are watching it in TV ... |
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| What do you think is more marketable: 1. A show about a young boy aiming to become the best and going through all the hardships he can to get there. 2. A show about a bunch of high-school girls doing a whole bunch of nothing. 3. A show about a young man who is willing to kill anyone, incorporates blood, gore and rape. 4. A show about a spooky house that is more hilarious than it is spooky. 5. A show about a boy and a girl falling in love, never talking to each other about it, having numerous misunderstandings, which barely ever ends with them sharing so much as a kiss. Not that hard to guess, now is there? |
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Arkab said: I'll quote myself from a similar previous thread: (BS are the most mainstream anime because of...) - The epic, grand scale feel of their stories and settings - The large and likable casts you get attached to given their lengthy runs - The cool and flashy action sequences that make your blood pump faster - The highly emotional and dramatic moments that tug your heartstrings - The lighthearted and funny moments that put a smile in your face - The awesome OSTs that stick in your mind forever In sum: because they follow a perfect recipe to make something really attractive and memorable to the general consumer. Also because they are the most marketable ones, and in general, they are very easy to watch. best answer end of thread. ............................. |
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Jim_Heart said: You forgot another reason that is they are long continous series. There are continuous series with totally different content (like those hateful elitist shows Monster and Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu), why they are not that popular? |
alshu said: Jim_Heart said: You forgot another reason that is they are long continous series. There are continuous series with totally different content (like those hateful elitist shows Monster and Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu), why they are not that popular? Because the content itself isn't as marketable. |
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yhunata said: alshu said: There are continuous series with totally different content (like those hateful elitist shows Monster and Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu), why they are not that popular? Because the content itself isn't as marketable. Yes, because the trends are different (by the way I was joking about those being elitist shows)...and I am pointing out to Jim_Heart that the format is not enough to make something popular. Entertaining industry will try to make continuous series from everything trendy just to milk it to the bone. |
alshuMar 18, 2019 3:14 AM
alshu said: Jim_Heart said: You forgot another reason that is they are long continous series. There are continuous series with totally different content (like those hateful elitist shows Monster and Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu), why they are not that popular? I didn't say that is the only reason.. You are right ... |
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| It's like how in every form of media, the most marketable stuff always happen to be the most overexposed. I don't subscribe to the "it's famous so it must be shit" mentality but any form of media have their own entry level shit and that's not a bad thing at all. Everyone starts somewhere and shounen anime is the most basic gateway entry to anime. It also helps that most entry level anime are inspired by western trends (BHA being comic book heroes) so it makes it easier for first time anime watchers to warm up to anime tropes and clichés, which can be hard to do if you give a first time anime watcher, for example, harem ecchi show number 87390. Again, entry level is used here because I don't have a better word to use lol. I personally dislike gatekeeping tbh. |
| Simple! The west loves mindless actions. Hence why Marvel and DC FILMS are popular. I, for one don't care for them. |
| Because the West likes action and conflict and anime outside of the battle shounen genre do not always have that. See the slice of life genre for evidence. |
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| Because lose... I mean people want to think they are special and escape into this fantasy land, where they are the hero of their own world |
| They are enjoyable they have lovable charachters and who doesnt enjoy a good action series Im talking about Aot etc........ Even non anime fans love action I think thats why |
| battle shonen and school life drama are the most popular genres because they speak the most to the intended demographic young boys and girls. those kids grow up and sometimes, keep watching those shows. |
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| It's very simple I think. You don't even need to talk about the content to explain it. 1. They are the shows that air on TV in a lot of countries, and on mainstream channels during daytime as well. Most other anime don't. That's why they don't even compare in terms of exposure. 2. They're long so they are present on TV for years or even decades, giving them time to raise awareness and even making generations of people grow up who still know them from their childhood. It's hard for something to fade into obscurity if the franchise doesn't die, e.g. Dragon Ball. |
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