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| it's not SAO without a rape scene i guess the black shadows to censor the violence were so disgusting and forced, either show the violence or remove it entirely. at least if you're going to censor it make it seem natural like covering it up with the environment nobody cared that Eugeos eye just kinda popped for no reason i hate to be the guy to complain about SAO, but this episode was just unnecessary |
| This new season of SAO is really good, but I will always stick with my notion that rape or attempted rape scenes will forever make me uncomfortable and will forever ruin a series, or at least an episode, for me. Am I being a little oversensitive? Maybe. But I had this same situation with Perfect Blue a while ago and it is still the case here. Hopefully this rest of the season can make up for it, especially now that Alice has finally come back in. |
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| I think this episode will decrease the score of this anime, well never mind XD. I will wait for the BD, because Stark700 says some scane has been cut and I want to see more blood :) or mybe (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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| They call that a rape scene, man all those bastards did was lick them. |
| Such a sick episode. Everything seemed too forced. So Alice finally makes her appearance. Not sure if I'll continue with SAO after all these sick stuffs happening this episode. SAO really isn't my type. |
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| I happened to read this in the LN and liked the way it was written. However, this episode just made the whole scene seem way too over the top edgy and just ridiculous despite the seriousness of the scene. The show has been a bit downhill for me with this school arc rushed and its poor execution. Hopefully, the next arc recovers. Finally, WTF is up with Sword Art Online and Kiss styled tongues? Like are the humans in these VR worlds a quarter serpent??? |
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Pedram said: Nayout said: If they adapt the new volumes, we will have something similar but lighter in the future. Image from Volume 17 That's not new volume tho lol and it's not anything similiar I just want to see the world burn :( |
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Mattinator95 said: Playcool said: Wait, all the hate that arc got was just cuz people got mad at attempted rape on Asuna?! WTF Really dumb people then. And the not "incest" plot Was perfectly fine with all of that (besides she is a cousin, and in japanese culture cousin x cousin is not a problem). Anyways, I still have not watched this episode, but decided to see how they did that part, and I m shocked that they were bold to do this, and pleasently surprised, since the scene deserved it. Roller coaster of epic fighting starts next episode!! |
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| Holy shit, this for me personally was the best episode I've seen SAO produce. The emotion, action, storytelling and whats yet to come (as seen when Alice popped up at the end) is so good. |
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| It was handled pretty well comparing to "infamous" Goblin Slayer super edgy scenes. ultravigo said: After i saw that ridiculous jumping scene i knew i had to check forums.Kek this writer and studio are king of hacks.I really can't stop laughing thinking about that scene. When I saw thier tongues and imagined "pero pero" sound I laughed hard too. But it was probably intentional move for not going too dark. |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| I knew i was gonna be in for a doozy when I saw the Viewer Destruction Screen... I was not wrong. |
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| Heard Reki Kawahara had to apologise to the voice actresses for making them do this scene. Lmao the embarrassment I'm sure will prevent him from writing this tripe ever again. This season took criticisms of cartoonish rapists in the last two seasons and dialed it to 11. SAO fans won't ever catch a break. This franchise will forever be known as Rape Art Online no matter how good it gets from here on. Well, at least its guaranteed to sell well in Japan so more seasons to come. |
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| I had an epiphany. Guys with long tongues have disgusting personalities...oh wait, it was done before. stardreaming97 said: Alright I didn't read the LN although I plan to after finishing this season, and I plan to watch the whole thing after every episode is up but alas I can't avoid the Internet and my friends talking about it. I just want to know if the girls in question in this ep were really "punished" It's safe to assume that they were saved in a nick of time. Naturally. |
XaphionDec 9, 2018 6:12 PM
| That warning at the start of episode was a spoiler imo lame |
MoonStar9 said: Heard Reki Kawahara had to apologise to the voice actresses for making them do this scene. Lmao the embarrassment I'm sure will prevent him from writing this tripe ever again. This season took criticisms of cartoonish rapists in the last two seasons and dialed it to 11. SAO fans won't ever catch a break. This franchise will forever be known as Rape Art Online no matter how good it gets from here on. Well, at least its guaranteed to sell well in Japan so more seasons to come. It will happen the same as the controversy of Goblin Slayer, a week people will forget. |
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Nayout said: MoonStar9 said: Heard Reki Kawahara had to apologise to the voice actresses for making them do this scene. Lmao the embarrassment I'm sure will prevent him from writing this tripe ever again. This season took criticisms of cartoonish rapists in the last two seasons and dialed it to 11. SAO fans won't ever catch a break. This franchise will forever be known as Rape Art Online no matter how good it gets from here on. Well, at least its guaranteed to sell well in Japan so more seasons to come. It will happen the same as the controversy of Goblin Slayer, a week people will forget. Nobody has forgotten Goblin Slayer. That anime grew massive due to the controversy. People haven't even forgotten Asuna being molested in SAO 1 and that was back in 2012. |
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| so like the warning before the episode ... I was like okkkk... but it was not that much gruesome...seems like if the taboo is broken they will be punished and obviously Alice will come...anime plot logic |
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| Just saw the episode. People trying to defend this episode literally have brain damage. SAO has a history of gratuitously using rape as a cheap plot device. They did it in Fairy Dance. They did it in GGO. Now they're doing it again and even worse than they did before. This author is apparently completely incapable of writing a villain that isnt a slimy snake-tongue rapist aside of Kabaya. The scene WAS sexualized AND it was put in there for shock value, there is really no arguing about this, there was absolutely no reason why they had to graphically show one and a half minute of two girls being raped just so it could be the trigger for Eugeo breaking the taboo. I'm literally not a person who is against rape being used altogether in media, but there are many ways to deal with such a sensitive subject, many ways to set a tone for it, many ways to make it relevant for the victim. But this garbage? It's not just distasteful - It's poor writing. If the author literally couldn't think of a better way to push Eugeo's limit, he is a shitty writer. Rape is a poor and tired plot device. We've seen it used for shock value time and time and time again. We've seen it used to fuel the main hero's anger time and time and time again (even in things that are actually well-written like Berserk - although I'd argue at least Berserk was always violent and sexual at the very least, as opposed to SAO trying to be edgy by suddenly featuring it). Beyond the debate of "is it gross or not", it is literally just an overused boring turd. Are you guys seriously satisfied with this little? Do you seriously think that this is anything above mediocre writing relying on the shock value and anger responses evoked from sexual assault? I honest to god can't see it. This is just flamable trash. |
tsubasalover said: Kouhais not back for 3 hours... That girl in question came to ask for rescue. She was asked again, and her roommates went to talk to him for her. So that guy caught those kouhais captive. His room is creepy. It's as if they are in illegal place. They used the law of being higher loyalty than them to begin to get a move on them. That again... Eugeo guy cannot move. Because Eugeo guy tries to break the rule, he hurt his eye, but able to attack one of them. Another guy was about to "punish" him, but main guy came to the rescue. Main guy won against him. Both their arms are cut and wanting their own blood to be stop bleeding. Because that long hair guy wanting to protect himself and broke the law, he died. It appeared again (the head when breaking the law). The teacher cured his eye, and gave them warning before going to that side. They finally met Alice, who doesn't seem to remember them. Eugeo guy seems to sense the familiarity. New OP and ED announced on screen after the ep. OP2: "RESISTER" by ASCA ED2: "forget-me-not" by ReoNa https://twitter.com/sao_anime/status/1071426721503600640 - I see... you make a summary for this episode - I hope the new Ost as good as the first OP - Atleast ALICE doesnt said "Umu" - That motherfuckers got what they did... to shame that only Raios Dead.. i wish both of them to Die... with more painful dead than Raios |
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| Eugeo is a cuck, simp, whiteknight beta. plain and simple you think that by saving the two girls would give him a pussy? I dunno about you man, but I don't work for free. if I'm gonna save some bitches, they better swallow my dick and they better do a good job about it. but of course, ((((we live in a society)))) though really, this society is bullshit and extremely gynocentric that we don't question why we view girls as angles that never do anything wrong and all their hysteria is because we men either don't man up enough or because we can't take responsibility or that we're being commitment-phobic. |
kidlat020Dec 9, 2018 9:45 PM
| >I had no brain when I was 12 >Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12 >I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12 >Therefore children cannot consent This is what science has done to humanity. |
| Alicization is 10 times better the self-insert than Season 1. THAT ATTEMPTED RAPE WAS HOT !!! |
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| Honestly SAO could deal with less rape, but isn't that the main way to prove that the Taboo Index is faulty? Some things (even irl) are not so easily black and white. Aka, killing = bad. Listening to authority = good. Morals are more then just that. It's basically what they were trying to prove here. Y'all who read the series knew it was coming. Sure, this is definitely more graphic than the Asuna rape scene, but tbh I could hardly see it another way that sends such an emotional impact. It's truly unfortunate that they have to rape bait the audience, but I think it's the example that seems so obvious, and also kind of makes you question your morals. Like for the millisecond that you take away not questioning how ill-taste this was, it makes you think are you strong enough to sentence yourself to an insta-death in order to do something morally right? idk man.. sao was never a pg show to begin with and always had (albeit cringey) deep shit to think about, so idk why everyone acts like this is the first....slightly out there piece. Especially as many people say, like Goblin Slayer...that was screwed up too. I also didn't notice the huge symbolism between Raios dying too, that his fluctlight exploded before his body gave way but it's the same concept. It's so unoriginal yet, all the yet...idk... I just don't see why there's such a surprise factor. Distasteful, but expected. Finally, all the controversy aside, ironic that Kirito told Eugeo to protect the disciples from hearing the Taboo Index guy yet their ears are uncovered. |
| Honestly can't tell if half of the people in this thread are joking or not, lel. |
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| Good to see the SAO haters out in full force like the determined autists that they are. I knew this episode would be popcorn worthy, and this TodAboT fellow certainly isn't letting me down with the ol' artistic "objectivity" argument. Tried and tr..... well, not true, but certainly tried. SAO is basically the Twilight of anime. If you don't go into watching it expecting comically evil villains that the show takes super seriously, you're in the wrong place. Just enjoy the memes and move on with your life. |
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iamYuyaSakaki said: This is so meaningful to me since I self-insert so much into my own game character.Alicization is 10 times better the self-insert than Season 1. THAT ATTEMPTED RAPE WAS HOT !!! |
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| This episode was highly disturbing.... I still like SAO, but it disgusts me how the author seems to see the need to incude at least one rape scene in almost every story arc. I know it's fiction, but that doesn't make it any better. The way a lot of anime/manga/novel series use rape and/or sexual assault to make the story seem more mature, dark or "edgy" is unsettling and honestly very disgusting. And what's even worse, readers/watchers accept it and sometimes even say that they like it and/or wan't more of it... It's possible to give motivation for the characters to fight the bad guys and/or make the villains seem even more evil without the need of sexual abuse, abuse of children etc. (to name just a few) ... |
WellminaAstorDec 10, 2018 2:50 AM
| Alright, I think I'm fine with more Asuna than this bullshit. |
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ibraheem234 said: so like the warning before the episode ... I was like okkkk... but it was not that much gruesome...seems like if the taboo is broken they will be punished and obviously Alice will come...anime plot logic Not exactly, since people breaking the taboo is all but natural, an Integrity Knight is summoned to deal with the situation (just happened to be her here), and do what you should see happening next episode, if it was not for a huge conflict that happens... (Alicie previously broke it, but she isnt dead, for a good reason, think about it, and what was said in ep6) |
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TodAboT said: Every single villain in SAO has to be either a rapist and/or a poorly thought out psychopath. Avoid making comments without having things clear. The unstable people is something very recurrent in the works of 2005, In Hack was equal all the villains were totally unstable people, Haseo in G.U was it until the end of the Vol3, the same with all the villains represented as PK / Hackers. For the rest here I leave a nice list of villains that do not have what you say, -Kayaba Akihiko -Tia -Alberich -Genesis -Quinella -Itsuki |
NayoutDec 10, 2018 3:20 AM
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| Also, did they skip something between episode 9 and 10? Because it felt like they did. |
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Mattinator95 said: KatsutoSaki said: Also, did they skip something between episode 9 and 10? Because it felt like they did. "Shrugs" what was the time stamp for episode 9 . I think it said April or May in epiosde 10 Oh, I never noticed those dates! In the 9th episode it's May 17, and in the 10th episode it's March. So they did skip... Or was the novel also like this? Anyways, they shouldn't skip too much since it's taking my enjoyment away. |
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| Best episode of Alicization till now, the tension was well done, sad for the unnecessary western release censorship, but i learn that aniplex and funi are owned by sony, and sony is well known for the recent massive change in policy and censorship in japanese media to please a bunch of swj. Sony is a mistake and bad for the anime and manga fandom, i'm happy i never pay a cent to see their censored anime (and games). |
KatsutoSaki said: I read somewhere that it was wrong subtitles that translated 5th month (may) as march. There is no timeskip. The events of 10th episode happen on the very next day of the events of 9th episode.Mattinator95 said: "Shrugs" what was the time stamp for episode 9 . I think it said April or May in epiosde 10 Oh, I never noticed those dates! In the 9th episode it's May 17, and in the 10th episode it's March. So they did skip... Or was the novel also like this? Anyways, they shouldn't skip too much since it's taking my enjoyment away. |
Chrome_Falcon said: KatsutoSaki said: I read somewhere that it was wrong subtitles that translated 5th month (may) as march. There is no timeskip. The events of 10th episode happen on the very next day of the events of 9th episode.Oh, I never noticed those dates! In the 9th episode it's May 17, and in the 10th episode it's March. So they did skip... Or was the novel also like this? Anyways, they shouldn't skip too much since it's taking my enjoyment away. Alright, so May 23 that is. Still a six days gap. Nah, you're wrong this event didn't take place on the very next day. Since they didn't show what happened after Tiese confessed to Eugeo. They showed nothing, other than this event taking place out of a sudden. |
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KatsutoSaki said: Chrome_Falcon said: I read somewhere that it was wrong subtitles that translated 5th month (may) as march. There is no timeskip. The events of 10th episode happen on the very next day of the events of 9th episode. Alright, so May 23 that is. Still a six days gap. Nah, you're wrong this event didn't take place on the very next day. Since they didn't show what happened after Tiese confessed to Eugeo. They showed nothing, other than this event taking place out of a sudden. Yes. There is 1 week gap. I checked. On the positive side, there won't be any more time skips from here on out till 25th episode. |
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