| https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/police-threaten-to-ban-and-arrest-people-mocking-tiny-cannabis-bust-in-wakefield-1-9160447 Behold the mighty cannabis bust that the UK Police did in Wakefield, West Yorkshire, England  People in the UK went to the Police Facebook and made fun of them for this drug bust, which resulted in the Police giving out this notice "Unfortunately we have had to ban a number of people from using this page today. "I would like to remind everyone that this is a Police page and whatever your thoughts on one of my officers seizing drugs in the community, being insulting, abusive or offensive can and will result in a prosecution under the Malicious Communications Act 1988. "We will not overlook the significant harm that illegal drugs cause to our communities. "We know from experience that this can progress from using what are perceived to be recreational drugs to more addictive and harmful substances and the resulting criminality used to fund their continued use. "Please use this page with respect or you will be banned and maybe even prosecuted" |
Ag526May 13, 2018 1:40 AM
| This reminds me of something I saw on television - one of those reality television shows that follows cops about and such. Anyway, these British police officers were giving a homeless man a shakedown and saw small dark, sticky clumps falling from his trousers. Interesting. So the cops start to examine the clumps and sniff them, handing it around the group of them for confirmation, suspecting it to be marijuana. I'd say they handled the clumps quite a bit before realizing it was actually caked shit. |
 Bölvat es okkr, bróðir, bani em ek þinn orðinn; þat mun æ uppi; illr er dómr norna. -Hlöðskviða (The Battle of the Goths and Huns) |
| "We know from experience that this can progress from using what are perceived to be recreational drugs to more addictive and harmful substances and the resulting criminality used to fund their continued use." Clearly, if you smoke that micro bud of weed, you're gonna try heroin in the next week. Aaaaah, police and drugs... Reminds me of that time I got annoyed by a cop who was too stupid and ignorant about his fucking job to make the difference between stuff to roll cigs and stuff to roll joints. |
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| hahaha, love the police using the malcomms act rather than having their day wasted by it they'll have probably posted it because it was two PCSO's that got it, they're probably proud of that + it was in a park/nature reserve where lots of young kids go to |
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| Aaannnd, this is why I love living in a place where the First Amendment is a thing. You can't be arrested for mocking law enforcement's undoubtedly stupid actions. |
| cleaning up the streets one gram at a time |
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| well, while it's stupid, still not as stupid as our police who want to destroy weed they confiscated, >by burning it >in the middle of city >there is 3.3 tons of them yeah, imagine the ruckus, lOl.... |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| The UK has an incompetence problem in the police system aggravated by political correctness gone mad. That's all they find in a "drug bust", pathetic , anywhere else it would kilos at the smallest if not hundreds or thousands of them. |
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| UK police threaten to arrest you for just about everything. Nazi pugs are only the beginning, this new story is merely one more step to that country going full autocratic. They can't stop rape gangs but they have plenty of time to jail people for social media posts after all. |
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| Cant people outside of their jurisdiction still mock them? |
| That amount is the equivalent of a traffic citation in my State. Looks like about 20 dollars worth. As long as you don't lie about having it of course. I just wish you weed junkies would stop stealing the cellophane from my pack of smokes dammit! |
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| Could someone please just get these cuckservatives high to teach them it's okay? |
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traed said: Could someone please just get these cuckservatives high to teach them it's okay? Some studies show that pot isn't completely harmless as commonly thought https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/21/auto-crashes-are-on-the-rise-in-marijuana-states.html |
ItsYaGrill said: traed said: Could someone please just get these cuckservatives high to teach them it's okay? Some studies show that pot isn't completely harmless as commonly thought https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/21/auto-crashes-are-on-the-rise-in-marijuana-states.html Nobody is saying its okay to drive stoned, or atleast thats the minority. I imagine if alcohol was outlawed vehicular accidents would drop severely as well. |
ItsYaGrill said: traed said: Could someone please just get these cuckservatives high to teach them it's okay? Some studies show that pot isn't completely harmless as commonly thought https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/21/auto-crashes-are-on-the-rise-in-marijuana-states.html So is water if you drink enough of it or breathe it in. Outlaw water now! |
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| "OI, YOU 'AVE A LOICENCE FOR THAHT SHITPOST MATE?" George Orwell is spinning in his grave, his country is one of the first in the western world to implement thoughtcrime and mass surveillance from straight out of his book 1984. |
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traed said: ItsYaGrill said: Some studies show that pot isn't completely harmless as commonly thought https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/21/auto-crashes-are-on-the-rise-in-marijuana-states.html So is water if you drink enough of it or breathe it in. Outlaw water now! Oh please, now you're just being petty. Pot has many other more dangerous side effects than "drinking too much water." Not only does it possibly increase car crashes, it leads people to take stronger drugs, such as heroin or crack because they want to experience the same high they did when they first tried pot. Crack and heroin leads to many physical dangers, death being the worst case. Even though pot itself isn't dangerous, it leads to devastating consequences. |
CurryBunYT said: ItsYaGrill said: Some studies show that pot isn't completely harmless as commonly thought https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/21/auto-crashes-are-on-the-rise-in-marijuana-states.html Nobody is saying its okay to drive stoned, or atleast thats the minority. I imagine if alcohol was outlawed vehicular accidents would drop severely as well. Yeah, but there's a deterrent to DUIs. If you're caught you can be fined, prosecuted, or sent to prison for x amount of years. There's nothing holding people back from being high and driving. As of right now, nothing's inherently illegal about it, thus there will be an increase in high people driving and crashing. |
| @ItsYaGrill You literally can die from too much water. No it doesn't. Them being in contact with people with other drugs and them wanting them is what does it. |
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traed said: @ItsYaGrill You literally can die from too much water. No it doesn't. Them being in contact with people with other drugs and them wanting them is what does it. Really? You're still stuck on the water thing? Yes, of course, people have drowned in water before. It can be dangerous. As for the other point, yes it has been proven that pot is a gateway drug. It's not just from exposure to other people who use the drugs. Look at this: https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-gateway-drug |
ItsYaGrill said: traed said: @ItsYaGrill You literally can die from too much water. No it doesn't. Them being in contact with people with other drugs and them wanting them is what does it. Really? You're still stuck on the water thing? Yes, of course, people have drowned in water before. It can be dangerous. As for the other point, yes it has been proven that pot is a gateway drug. It's not just from exposure to other people who use the drugs. Look at this: https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-gateway-drug I treat marijuana as slightly more noxious than booze. To be fair, I drink heavily sometimes, but still. I can't get people second hand drunk by drinking shots. Also, yes bot pot heads and alcoholics celebrate their drug of choice as a life changing religious experience and worship at the alter. Both always try to use peer pressure to attempt to prosetelyz me into partaking at any given chance. Like, seriously, just because you are doing it, doesn't mean I absolutely have to join you. |
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ItsYaGrill said: traed said: @ItsYaGrill You literally can die from too much water. No it doesn't. Them being in contact with people with other drugs and them wanting them is what does it. Really? You're still stuck on the water thing? Yes, of course, people have drowned in water before. It can be dangerous. As for the other point, yes it has been proven that pot is a gateway drug. It's not just from exposure to other people who use the drugs. Look at this: https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-gateway-drug No it hasn't been proven lol Your arguments are so bad you're not even worth talking to. Your own link debunks you "However, the majority of people who use marijuana do not go on to use other, "harder" substances. Also, cross-sensitization is not unique to marijuana. Alcohol and nicotine also prime the brain for a heightened response to other drugs52 and are, like marijuana, also typically used before a person progresses to other, more harmful substances. It is important to note that other factors besides biological mechanisms, such as a person’s social environment, are also critical in a person’s risk for drug use. An alternative to the gateway-drug hypothesis is that people who are more vulnerable to drug-taking are simply more likely to start with readily available substances such as marijuana, tobacco, or alcohol, and their subsequent social interactions with others who use drugs increases their chances of trying other drugs. Further research is needed to explore this question." |
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| Dumbass police you think it's cool to post someone else's weed on facebook. lameee. nah that's about a gram, probably 3 bowls worth |
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traed said: ItsYaGrill said: Really? You're still stuck on the water thing? Yes, of course, people have drowned in water before. It can be dangerous. As for the other point, yes it has been proven that pot is a gateway drug. It's not just from exposure to other people who use the drugs. Look at this: https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-gateway-drug No it hasn't been proven lol Your arguments are so bad you're not even worth talking to. Your own link debunks you "However, the majority of people who use marijuana do not go on to use other, "harder" substances. Also, cross-sensitization is not unique to marijuana. Alcohol and nicotine also prime the brain for a heightened response to other drugs52 and are, like marijuana, also typically used before a person progresses to other, more harmful substances. It is important to note that other factors besides biological mechanisms, such as a person’s social environment, are also critical in a person’s risk for drug use. An alternative to the gateway-drug hypothesis is that people who are more vulnerable to drug-taking are simply more likely to start with readily available substances such as marijuana, tobacco, or alcohol, and their subsequent social interactions with others who use drugs increases their chances of trying other drugs. Further research is needed to explore this question." um...no I haven't been debunked by my own article. Maybe you need to rethink your dumbass arguments. I said it has been proven to be a gateway drug. This article does nothing but prove and support my statement. 1. While, yes the majority of people don't tend to go on to harder substances there are still people that do it. Just because it's the minority doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist. That's just like saying black people don't live America just because they are the minority and only make up 13% of the population, while whites are the only people that make up America because they are the majority 76%. Minority percentages matter, even if you don't think so. 2. And to quote what you just quoted "Marijuana...[is] also typically used before a person progresses to other, more harmful substances." Look at that. Doesn't seem to debunk anything of what I just said does it? 3. I never said that a person's environment, biological factors, etc. doesn't influence on whether they will take the drug or not. I just stated that that was not the only factor. So, please think before you post, or else you will just look like an idiot. |
Mistur-JosturMay 15, 2018 8:53 PM
ItsYaGrill said: um...no I haven't been debunked by my own article. Maybe you need to rethink your dumbass arguments. I said it has been proven to be a gateway drug. This article does nothing but prove and support my statement. Only if you ignore the last line. What that site says in a roundabout way is there is a correlation between Marijuana use (nicotine/alcohol as well) and other drugs. However, they are acknowledging that a causal link between the two has not been found which is why a second hypothesis (common liability model) is mentioned. It's likely a causal link will never be proven, as there are simply too many variables that can not be controlled in a study to definitively make such a claim. Although I suppose as we advance in genetics perhaps that may shed some light on addiction etc moving forward. @topic Seems like an empty threat, but I suppose they could technically arrest people for it. I can't figure out why they posted a picture of the 'bust' though on Facebook to begin with. Were they trying to make a point of 'no matter how much you have we'll bust you' or something of that nature? |
InsertCatchyNameMay 17, 2018 6:20 PM
Sleepy_Yoshi said: ItsYaGrill said: um...no I haven't been debunked by my own article. Maybe you need to rethink your dumbass arguments. I said it has been proven to be a gateway drug. This article does nothing but prove and support my statement. Only if you ignore the last line. What that site says in a roundabout way is there is a causal link between Marijuana use (nicotine/alcohol as well) and other drugs. However, they are acknowledging that a correlation between the two has not been found which is why a second hypothesis (common liability model) is mentioned. It's likely correlation will never be proven, as there are simply too many variables that can not be controlled in a study to definitively make such a claim. Although I suppose as we advance in genetics perhaps that may shed some light on addiction etc moving forward. @topic Seems like an empty threat, but I suppose they could technically arrest people for it. I can't figure out why they posted a picture of the 'bust' though on Facebook to begin with. Were they trying to make a point of 'no matter how much you have we'll bust you' or something of that nature? "Alcohol Use and Related Disorders found that adults who reported marijuana use during the first wave of the survey were more likely than adults who did not use marijuana to develop an alcohol use disorder within 3 years; people who used marijuana and already had an alcohol use disorder at the outset were at greater risk of their alcohol use disorder worsening. Marijuana use is also linked to other substance use disorders including nicotine addiction." "Early exposure to cannabinoids in adolescent rodents decreases the reactivity of brain dopamine reward centers later in adulthood. To the extent that these findings generalize to humans, this could help explain the increased vulnerability for addiction to other substances of misuse later in life that most epidemiological studies have reported for people who begin marijuana use early in life." "These findings are consistent with the idea of marijuana as a "gateway drug." I'm not sure what you're are trying to say here. There is evidence to show that marijuana is a gateway drug. This has been the basis of my argument from the start. Pot itself isn't dangerous, but it can lead to dangerous consequences, however "casual" or hardcore it is. As for the other environmental and hereditary disposition people have that makes it easier/harder to link pot to, yeah, I agree, that's a hard one to prove. There are so many factors in a person's day to day life and their personality, it hard to link one material to these factors. So, it seems likely, but it is not proven. If anything, that debunks traed, since he was the one who brought it up and used it as his argument. |
ItsYaGrill said: driving under the influence includes pot. Driving impaired is generally just illegal regardless of if the substance is legal. https://www.gov.uk/drug-driving-lawCurryBunYT said: Nobody is saying its okay to drive stoned, or atleast thats the minority. I imagine if alcohol was outlawed vehicular accidents would drop severely as well. Yeah, but there's a deterrent to DUIs. If you're caught you can be fined, prosecuted, or sent to prison for x amount of years. There's nothing holding people back from being high and driving. As of right now, nothing's inherently illegal about it, thus there will be an increase in high people driving and crashing. "It’s illegal to drive if either: you’re unfit to do so because you’re on legal or illegal drugs you have certain levels of illegal drugs in your blood (even if they haven’t affected your driving)" "The police can stop you and make you do a ‘field impairment assessment’ if they think you’re on drugs. This is a series of tests, eg asking you to walk in a straight line. They can also use a roadside drug kit to screen for cannabis and cocaine. If they think you’re unfit to drive because of taking drugs, you’ll be arrested and will have to take a blood or urine test at a police station. You could be charged with a crime if the test shows you’ve taken drugs." |
Killaclown said: ItsYaGrill said: driving under the influence includes pot. Driving impaired is generally just illegal regardless of if the substance is legal. https://www.gov.uk/drug-driving-lawYeah, but there's a deterrent to DUIs. If you're caught you can be fined, prosecuted, or sent to prison for x amount of years. There's nothing holding people back from being high and driving. As of right now, nothing's inherently illegal about it, thus there will be an increase in high people driving and crashing. "It’s illegal to drive if either: you’re unfit to do so because you’re on legal or illegal drugs you have certain levels of illegal drugs in your blood (even if they haven’t affected your driving)" "The police can stop you and make you do a ‘field impairment assessment’ if they think you’re on drugs. This is a series of tests, eg asking you to walk in a straight line. They can also use a roadside drug kit to screen for cannabis and cocaine. If they think you’re unfit to drive because of taking drugs, you’ll be arrested and will have to take a blood or urine test at a police station. You could be charged with a crime if the test shows you’ve taken drugs." Yes, I realized my mistake not too long ago. The US is different than the UK when it comes to this. America seems like its "waking up" to issues related to pot due to CA and CO legalizing it just recently, while the UK already understands it. In CA, they just realized there were going to be problems with pot and driving combined: http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-gov-brown-approves-penalties-for-1505187585-htmlstory.html This law in the article wasn't even made a year ago it's that new. Pretty soon America will be tough on legalized cannabis. But that aside, the US had laws restricting pot in general (driving with would be included of course) but now they are making sure it's enforced where it's legal. |
Mistur-JosturMay 16, 2018 10:17 AM
ItsYaGrill said: well it's still illegal in the DUI sense (I even almost used a US site before I realized this was a UK thread), the article says this will just be like the open container law, and before anyone mentions it, yes you can get high without 2nd high problems, like eating edibles or smoking a wax pen that doesn't produce a lot of smoke.Killaclown said: driving under the influence includes pot. Driving impaired is generally just illegal regardless of if the substance is legal. https://www.gov.uk/drug-driving-law "It’s illegal to drive if either: you’re unfit to do so because you’re on legal or illegal drugs you have certain levels of illegal drugs in your blood (even if they haven’t affected your driving)" "The police can stop you and make you do a ‘field impairment assessment’ if they think you’re on drugs. This is a series of tests, eg asking you to walk in a straight line. They can also use a roadside drug kit to screen for cannabis and cocaine. If they think you’re unfit to drive because of taking drugs, you’ll be arrested and will have to take a blood or urine test at a police station. You could be charged with a crime if the test shows you’ve taken drugs." Yes, I realized my mistake not too long ago. The US is different than the UK when it comes to this. America seems like its "waking up" to issues related to pot due to CA and CO legalizing it just recently, while the UK already understands it. In CA, they just realized there were going to be problems with pot and driving combined: http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-gov-brown-approves-penalties-for-1505187585-htmlstory.html This law in the article wasn't even made a year ago it's that new. Pretty soon America will be tough on legalized cannabis. |
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vulturs said: This reminds me of something I saw on television - one of those reality television shows that follows cops about and such. Anyway, these British police officers were giving a homeless man a shakedown and saw small dark, sticky clumps falling from his trousers. Interesting. So the cops start to examine the clumps and sniff them, handing it around the group of them for confirmation, suspecting it to be marijuana. I'd say they handled the clumps quite a bit before realizing it was actually caked shit. Hahaha 😂 ........ |
ItsYaGrill said: "Alcohol Use and Related Disorders found that adults who reported marijuana use during the first wave of the survey were more likely than adults who did not use marijuana to develop an alcohol use disorder within 3 years; people who used marijuana and already had an alcohol use disorder at the outset were at greater risk of their alcohol use disorder worsening. Marijuana use is also linked to other substance use disorders including nicotine addiction." "Early exposure to cannabinoids in adolescent rodents decreases the reactivity of brain dopamine reward centers later in adulthood. To the extent that these findings generalize to humans, this could help explain the increased vulnerability for addiction to other substances of misuse later in life that most epidemiological studies have reported for people who begin marijuana use early in life." "These findings are consistent with the idea of marijuana as a "gateway drug." I'm not sure what you're are trying to say here. There is evidence to show that marijuana is a gateway drug. This has been the basis of my argument from the start. Pot itself isn't dangerous, but it can lead to dangerous consequences, however "casual" or hardcore it is. As for the other environmental and hereditary disposition people have that makes it easier/harder to link pot to, yeah, I agree, that's a hard one to prove. There are so many factors in a person's day to day life and their personality, it hard to link one material to these factors. So, it seems likely, but it is not proven. If anything, that debunks traed, since he was the one who brought it up and used it as his argument. I think I wasn't really clear. When people say gateway drug they mean marijuana use directly leads to try other drugs. This is a hypothesis or "idea" as the article you linked said. That is quite different than definitive proof. There's definitely a correlation between marijuana use and other drugs for sure. But, is it marijuana? Or, could it be depressed people as an example are more likely to try a variety of drugs? Peer Pressure? Curiosity? Or merely just someone that wants to alter their consciousness? There are many reasons that may be true that aren't directly related to trying marijuana itself. It's also worth noting, that most people try nicotine before ever trying marijuana. Is nicotine then the real gateway? The Institute of Medicine put it in a pretty clear way. As far as the studies in the article you linked. The first has poor controls so is not conclusive evidence. The second was done in mice which can't be extrapolated directly to people. Mice do not always exhibit the same symptoms, side effects etc to drugs and/or medications as people do. It's an invaluable tool for sure, but there's a reason human trials are still conducted. |
ItsYaGrill said: Killaclown said: driving under the influence includes pot. Driving impaired is generally just illegal regardless of if the substance is legal. https://www.gov.uk/drug-driving-law "It’s illegal to drive if either: you’re unfit to do so because you’re on legal or illegal drugs you have certain levels of illegal drugs in your blood (even if they haven’t affected your driving)" "The police can stop you and make you do a ‘field impairment assessment’ if they think you’re on drugs. This is a series of tests, eg asking you to walk in a straight line. They can also use a roadside drug kit to screen for cannabis and cocaine. If they think you’re unfit to drive because of taking drugs, you’ll be arrested and will have to take a blood or urine test at a police station. You could be charged with a crime if the test shows you’ve taken drugs." Yes, I realized my mistake not too long ago. The US is different than the UK when it comes to this. America seems like its "waking up" to issues related to pot due to CA and CO legalizing it just recently, while the UK already understands it. In CA, they just realized there were going to be problems with pot and driving combined: http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-gov-brown-approves-penalties-for-1505187585-htmlstory.html This law in the article wasn't even made a year ago it's that new. Pretty soon America will be tough on legalized cannabis. But that aside, the US had laws restricting pot in general (driving with would be included of course) but now they are making sure it's enforced where it's legal. Gonna point something out: "Nationally, 10 people are killed in distracted-driving crashes every day, with 37,000 deaths in 2016, according to data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration." Should cellphones be banned? "Data from the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety indicates 97 percent of drivers say texting or emailing while driving is a serious or very serious threat to their safety, yet 45 percent admit to reading a text or email in the past month and 35 percent admit to writing one." writing one In Washington state it is illegal to eat, do make up, answer a cellphone, text, have ANYTHING in your hands while driving. Not all states have strong distracted driving laws and yet, we have legalized pot. Strangely enough, more ADULTS text/drive and get in a wreck more than teens. "Drivers also cannot use handheld devices while at a stop sign or red-light signal." "In 2012, 3,328 Americans died in crashes involving a distracted driver, while 10,322 people were killed in alcohol-related crashes." (go look back at those 2016 numbers. wow. because now more people are killed by distracted drivers than people using a substance) Lots of people have died because of driving with cellphones. But they are not illegal. |
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Energetic-Nova said: ItsYaGrill said: Yes, I realized my mistake not too long ago. The US is different than the UK when it comes to this. America seems like its "waking up" to issues related to pot due to CA and CO legalizing it just recently, while the UK already understands it. In CA, they just realized there were going to be problems with pot and driving combined: http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-gov-brown-approves-penalties-for-1505187585-htmlstory.html This law in the article wasn't even made a year ago it's that new. Pretty soon America will be tough on legalized cannabis. But that aside, the US had laws restricting pot in general (driving with would be included of course) but now they are making sure it's enforced where it's legal. Gonna point something out: "Nationally, 10 people are killed in distracted-driving crashes every day, with 37,000 deaths in 2016, according to data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration." Should cellphones be banned? "Data from the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety indicates 97 percent of drivers say texting or emailing while driving is a serious or very serious threat to their safety, yet 45 percent admit to reading a text or email in the past month and 35 percent admit to writing one." writing one In Washington state it is illegal to eat, do make up, answer a cellphone, text, have ANYTHING in your hands while driving. Not all states have strong distracted driving laws and yet, we have legalized pot. Strangely enough, more ADULTS text/drive and get in a wreck more than teens. "Drivers also cannot use handheld devices while at a stop sign or red-light signal." "In 2012, 3,328 Americans died in crashes involving a distracted driver, while 10,322 people were killed in alcohol-related crashes." (go look back at those 2016 numbers. wow. because now more people are killed by distracted drivers than people using a substance) Lots of people have died because of driving with cellphones. But they are not illegal. Cellphones should be banned from use when driving. But people should still have it in their possession. Because, unlike pot, phones are actually a necessity for modern day life. People's lives have actually been saved by having a cellphone on hand when driving. When someone is stranded, lost, etc. they can use their cellphone to call for help or use GPS to find their way. Also, I don't know if you read my posts in the previous discussions, but pot has been linked to an increased chance of alcohol use and abuse. And like you said, alcohol has been the cause of countless of crashes. |
Sleepy_Yoshi said: ItsYaGrill said: "Alcohol Use and Related Disorders found that adults who reported marijuana use during the first wave of the survey were more likely than adults who did not use marijuana to develop an alcohol use disorder within 3 years; people who used marijuana and already had an alcohol use disorder at the outset were at greater risk of their alcohol use disorder worsening. Marijuana use is also linked to other substance use disorders including nicotine addiction." "Early exposure to cannabinoids in adolescent rodents decreases the reactivity of brain dopamine reward centers later in adulthood. To the extent that these findings generalize to humans, this could help explain the increased vulnerability for addiction to other substances of misuse later in life that most epidemiological studies have reported for people who begin marijuana use early in life." "These findings are consistent with the idea of marijuana as a "gateway drug." I'm not sure what you're are trying to say here. There is evidence to show that marijuana is a gateway drug. This has been the basis of my argument from the start. Pot itself isn't dangerous, but it can lead to dangerous consequences, however "casual" or hardcore it is. As for the other environmental and hereditary disposition people have that makes it easier/harder to link pot to, yeah, I agree, that's a hard one to prove. There are so many factors in a person's day to day life and their personality, it hard to link one material to these factors. So, it seems likely, but it is not proven. If anything, that debunks traed, since he was the one who brought it up and used it as his argument. I think I wasn't really clear. When people say gateway drug they mean marijuana use directly leads to try other drugs. This is a hypothesis or "idea" as the article you linked said. That is quite different than definitive proof. There's definitely a correlation between marijuana use and other drugs for sure. But, is it marijuana? Or, could it be depressed people as an example are more likely to try a variety of drugs? Peer Pressure? Curiosity? Or merely just someone that wants to alter their consciousness? There are many reasons that may be true that aren't directly related to trying marijuana itself. It's also worth noting, that most people try nicotine before ever trying marijuana. Is nicotine then the real gateway? The Institute of Medicine put it in a pretty clear way. As far as the studies in the article you linked. The first has poor controls so is not conclusive evidence. The second was done in mice which can't be extrapolated directly to people. Mice do not always exhibit the same symptoms, side effects etc to drugs and/or medications as people do. It's an invaluable tool for sure, but there's a reason human trials are still conducted. I think I wasn't clear in my post either because I agree with much of what you said. There are too many factors in a person's environment, what their personality is like, and their hereditary dispositions, to place one factor, such as pot, as a one-size-fits-all cause of why they use it. I also agree with you on your statements on the rat experiment. For a few years now I have researched and written about the effectiveness of animal experiments and how many animals differ from humans. However, there is enough similarity to the finding in this study that they were able to generalize these effects upon humans. You could also be true in speculating that nicotine in cigarretes is the true gateway drug and the pot is part of the "bridge" so to speak in the process. And you can fight me on this, but I believe that smoking should outlawed as pot or any other dangerous drug. However, I'm not sure why you think the other studies are unreliable. The experiments were on humans and they were studied over the course of many years. In the end, there is not much known about the specifics of pot. I don't know how much you've researched this, but, at least for me, it is hard to find definitive information on the topic. But what I've seen, there are definitely links or correlations to alcohol intake and stronger drug use, whether it be classified as a strict gateway drug or not. I hope all this makes sense. I've had a long day and am exhausted lol |
ItsYaGrill said: Energetic-Nova said: Gonna point something out: "Nationally, 10 people are killed in distracted-driving crashes every day, with 37,000 deaths in 2016, according to data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration." Should cellphones be banned? "Data from the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety indicates 97 percent of drivers say texting or emailing while driving is a serious or very serious threat to their safety, yet 45 percent admit to reading a text or email in the past month and 35 percent admit to writing one." writing one In Washington state it is illegal to eat, do make up, answer a cellphone, text, have ANYTHING in your hands while driving. Not all states have strong distracted driving laws and yet, we have legalized pot. Strangely enough, more ADULTS text/drive and get in a wreck more than teens. "Drivers also cannot use handheld devices while at a stop sign or red-light signal." "In 2012, 3,328 Americans died in crashes involving a distracted driver, while 10,322 people were killed in alcohol-related crashes." (go look back at those 2016 numbers. wow. because now more people are killed by distracted drivers than people using a substance) Lots of people have died because of driving with cellphones. But they are not illegal. Cellphones should be banned from use when driving. But people should still have it in their possession. Because, unlike pot, phones are actually a necessity for modern day life. People's lives have actually been saved by having a cellphone on hand when driving. When someone is stranded, lost, etc. they can use their cellphone to call for help or use GPS to find their way. Also, I don't know if you read my posts in the previous discussions, but pot has been linked to an increased chance of alcohol use and abuse. And like you said, alcohol has been the cause of countless of crashes. It has been used for an opiate replacement. Cancer patients. Seizures. And people with autism. Alcohol does not have the same use yet we have seen what happens when we ban alcohol. Cigarettes don’t have any use unlike alcohol. People die even win just being around it. You don’t die from just the use of marijuana. You don’t have withdrawals so bad that you would die from stopping the use of marijuana like you so alcohol or opiates. Opiates which are way worse, yet more studied and actually can be prescribed to you and not considered illegal always like pot. Heck, I take Adderall and Klonopin. Those are addictive drugs. But I use them correctly from my doctor. Both of those are considered narcotics. So I can take medical meth, but oh no not marijuana. |
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AdolChri said: Emperor-of-Pi said: Thank you, First Amendment. It seems like European nations are getting more authoritarian every day. Just conservative ones, we warned you, but you didn't listen. History repeat itself and conservatives have a history of establishing the most brutal and authoritarian regimes in Europe. Well, to be fair, the U.S. is having its own Conservative honeymoon as well, and they are all eagerly taking cracks at pieces of the Constitution they don't particularly like. The Fourth Amendment? What is that? Increase warrant-less NSA surveillance tenfold, please. Acts of military aggression without approval from Congress? Meh, people are overreacting. Drone strikes that on average have a 90% civilian death rate? Put that program on steroids. Did some say "international law? BAWHAHAHAHA, thanks for the laugh. To be fair, Obama did all of these during his administration, but Conservatives love those polices and are actively seeking to expand them. I wouldn't be surprised to see efforts to curtail free speech by both the Left and Right in a few years. You can't let the plebs have independent thought these days. |
-Placeholder- said: ItsYaGrill said: I think I wasn't clear in my post either because I agree with much of what you said. There are too many factors in a person's environment, what their personality is like, and their hereditary dispositions, to place one factor, such as pot, as a one-size-fits-all cause of why they use it. I also agree with you on your statements on the rat experiment. For a few years now I have researched and written about the effectiveness of animal experiments and how many animals differ from humans. However, there is enough similarity to the finding in this study that they were able to generalize these effects upon humans. You could also be true in speculating that nicotine in cigarretes is the true gateway drug and the pot is part of the "bridge" so to speak in the process. And you can fight me on this, but I believe that smoking should outlawed as pot or any other dangerous drug. However, I'm not sure why you think the other studies are unreliable. The experiments were on humans and they were studied over the course of many years. In the end, there is not much known about the specifics of pot. I don't know how much you've researched this, but, at least for me, it is hard to find definitive information on the topic. But what I've seen, there are definitely links or correlations to alcohol intake and stronger drug use, whether it be classified as a strict gateway drug or not. I hope all this makes sense. I've had a long day and am exhausted lol Nicotine and weed both can be harmful. However, it's not your right to tell people what they can imbibe into their own bodies, whether it be nicotine, weed, or cocaine. Besides that fact that people should be able to do with their bodies whatever they please, prohibition has a lot more negative effects on society by increasing the role of the black market and crime syndicates, putting people in jail for non-violent crimes, and costing lots of money. You are right in many cases and I can see where you are coming from. However, smoking both pot and tobacco doesn't effect just one person. It has been shown that second-hand smoking is just as bad as regular smoking, especially for children. Also, if someone is pregnant, that unborn baby can get birth defects and SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome). Do those young children or unborn babies get to choose whether or not they want those side-effects for the rest of their life or even have a premature death? Of course not. It's their parents that decide for them. Do you see where I'm coming from? A person's decision on something like this almost never effects just them. So, like I'm trying alter their life by banning something dangerous, People who have them can alter other people's lives by using them. So, it's a cycle that never stops. |
Energetic-Nova said: ItsYaGrill said: Cellphones should be banned from use when driving. But people should still have it in their possession. Because, unlike pot, phones are actually a necessity for modern day life. People's lives have actually been saved by having a cellphone on hand when driving. When someone is stranded, lost, etc. they can use their cellphone to call for help or use GPS to find their way. Also, I don't know if you read my posts in the previous discussions, but pot has been linked to an increased chance of alcohol use and abuse. And like you said, alcohol has been the cause of countless of crashes. It has been used for an opiate replacement. Cancer patients. Seizures. And people with autism. Alcohol does not have the same use yet we have seen what happens when we ban alcohol. Cigarettes don’t have any use unlike alcohol. People die even win just being around it. You don’t die from just the use of marijuana. You don’t have withdrawals so bad that you would die from stopping the use of marijuana like you so alcohol or opiates. Opiates which are way worse, yet more studied and actually can be prescribed to you and not considered illegal always like pot. Heck, I take Adderall and Klonopin. Those are addictive drugs. But I use them correctly from my doctor. Both of those are considered narcotics. So I can take medical meth, but oh no not marijuana. Medical Marijuana, right now, has absolutely no proof of any medicinal value. There is very little research being done that maybe links it to some benefits. I have said this three times before just in this discussion and I will say it again. Pot itself is not bad. However, it can lead to devastating and dangerous consequences. Opiates are strictly regulated and have been proven to have worked, unlike legalized pot. That's why you, some of my friends, and millions of more people, take it, feel better, and don't have access to a multitude of it at the same time to feed a potential addiction. Only doctors can prescribe and receive potentially dangerous narcotics. Someone who is addicted to strong opiates would have to rob a hospital/pharmacy to get it. Whereas with pot, you can grow it or buy it from your local seedy drug dealer. |
ItsYaGrill said: Energetic-Nova said: It has been used for an opiate replacement. Cancer patients. Seizures. And people with autism. Alcohol does not have the same use yet we have seen what happens when we ban alcohol. Cigarettes don’t have any use unlike alcohol. People die even win just being around it. You don’t die from just the use of marijuana. You don’t have withdrawals so bad that you would die from stopping the use of marijuana like you so alcohol or opiates. Opiates which are way worse, yet more studied and actually can be prescribed to you and not considered illegal always like pot. Heck, I take Adderall and Klonopin. Those are addictive drugs. But I use them correctly from my doctor. Both of those are considered narcotics. So I can take medical meth, but oh no not marijuana. Medical Marijuana, right now, has absolutely no proof of any medicinal value. There is very little research being done that maybe links it to some benefits. I have said this three times before just in this discussion and I will say it again. Pot itself is not bad. However, it can lead to devastating and dangerous consequences. Opiates are strictly regulated and have been proven to have worked, unlike legalized pot. That's why you, some of my friends, and millions of more people, take it, feel better, and don't have access to a multitude of it at the same time to feed a potential addiction. Only doctors can prescribe and receive potentially dangerous narcotics. Someone who is addicted to strong opiates would have to rob a hospital/pharmacy to get it. Whereas with pot, you can grow it or buy it from your local seedy drug dealer. Which is how my cousin got addicted and died from overdose of prescription opiods. good one. |
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Energetic-Nova said: ItsYaGrill said: Medical Marijuana, right now, has absolutely no proof of any medicinal value. There is very little research being done that maybe links it to some benefits. I have said this three times before just in this discussion and I will say it again. Pot itself is not bad. However, it can lead to devastating and dangerous consequences. Opiates are strictly regulated and have been proven to have worked, unlike legalized pot. That's why you, some of my friends, and millions of more people, take it, feel better, and don't have access to a multitude of it at the same time to feed a potential addiction. Only doctors can prescribe and receive potentially dangerous narcotics. Someone who is addicted to strong opiates would have to rob a hospital/pharmacy to get it. Whereas with pot, you can grow it or buy it from your local seedy drug dealer. Which is how my cousin got addicted and died from overdose of prescription opiods. good one. I'm sorry for your loss. Looking back, I was insensitive about what I wrote. For that, I am sorry as well. Thinking on it more, some doctors are at fault too for giving opiates at a reckless pace or amount, which can also feed a growing addiction. Some have it in mind that it is a cure-all type pill, which obviously is not. This mindset can be dangerous for people who are susceptible to get addicted to them. I think that some doctors should take more care for their patients and take the time to see whether narcotics will do a certain person more harm or good before giving it to them. |
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