| It's not fair. Isn't OPM the series that made ONE popular? |
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isekai said: well different anime studios have different situations and problems obviously i heard that a lot of the OPM staff are busy with other anime works already and also majority of the OPM staff when Madhouse studio is handling it are just free lancers so they do what they want and other studios can hire them before Madhouse does Yeah but how does that stop madhouse from doing a season 2. Most of their upcoming anime have been season 2/3s |
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| The OPM staff is working on Boogiepop right now, pretty sure the producers didnt want to wait for them while the OPM hype is still going. |
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| Bones > Madhouse in terms of shows like these anyways hehe |
| Mob Psycho 100 and One Punch Man are two different anime with completely different staff, but the key here is to remember that none of the staffs that work in these studios stay in one place for very long. Shingo is now directing Boogiepop Never Laughs over at Madhouse instead of One Punch Man, but he's previously directed anime at Bones and Hoods Entertainment and has been a key animator at multiple studios for at least a decade and a half. Mob Psycho 100 still has all of the same staff at Bones, but again, all of their staff has worked at places like Madhouse, JC Staff and White Fox, especially the director Yuzuru Tachikawa. The difference here was probably that they weren't involved with any other projects and on popular demand decided to continue with Mob Psycho. Most of the staff that worked on One Punch Man are still there, the only problem is that the main staff went on to direct Boogiepop Never Laughs, which is a much more difficult project to adapt and they most likely needed someone experienced. That said, the new director Chikara Sakurai, while inexperienced as a director, has a lot of experience with key animation and animation direction on Naruto, Nerawareta Gakuen and other series. I am not saying that this season will be good or bad, I have no clue what will happen, but I also think it's unfair to say that just because it is a different studio and different main staff, that they can't, or its impossible to do just as good of a job as the previous staff. The only other thing Shingo Natsume directed before he went onto One Punch Man was an OVA and Space Dandy, but before Space Dandy he directed nothing. And while Shingo definitely had a lot of creativity in his portrayal of the fight scenes, it's not like most of them weren't directly inspired by panels in the manga. I'm just saying that if anyone understood what Shingo was doing to make One Punch Man great, then I'm sure they could find some way to replicate that if they tried. |
| how does that make any sense? Just because a series made an author popular doesn't mean it should be made sequels faster than others series of his. plus the concept of "fairness" doesnt exist in real life |
Zehennagel said: how does that make any sense? Just because a series made an author popular doesn't mean it should be made sequels faster than others series of his. plus the concept of "fairness" doesnt exist in real life Not to mention MP100 anime was not even done by the same studio... |
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Zehennagel said: how does that make any sense? Just because a series made an author popular doesn't mean it should be made sequels faster than others series of his. plus the concept of "fairness" doesnt exist in real life lol, it makes perfect sense. More popular shows of course should be first |
Taito10 said: lol, it makes perfect sense. More popular shows of course should be first If they would be made by the same people but the two productions don't correlate. So it makes no sense to blame Mob Psycho for OPM's change of stuff and delay. |
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| Okay, since when people stopped trusting J.C. Staff? Or are you just implying that a studio change is automatically bad? I seriously can't tell... |
Taito10 said: Zehennagel said: how does that make any sense? Just because a series made an author popular doesn't mean it should be made sequels faster than others series of his. plus the concept of "fairness" doesnt exist in real life lol, it makes perfect sense. More popular shows of course should be first should be first? like it's moraly what should happen?(like you shouldn't pirate animes LUL) no, that's dumb. that what's happen most of the time and it just makes sense. thats just an excuse. "it's not fair" WOW welcome to life |
Hrybami said: It's about the ridiculous hype that Madhouse had in the past few years. People seem to think that if an anime is not made by them then it's gonna look bad. They totally disregard other great studios like Bones, JC Stuff or Prod IG.Okay, since when people stopped trusting J.C. Staff? Or are you just implying that a studio change is automatically bad? I seriously can't tell... |
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Zura_Orokamono said: Hrybami said: It's about the ridiculous hype that Madhouse had in the past few years. People seem to think that if an anime is not made by them then it's gonna look bad. They totally disregard other great studios like Bones, JC Stuff or Prod IG.Okay, since when people stopped trusting J.C. Staff? Or are you just implying that a studio change is automatically bad? I seriously can't tell... So it's really all about Madhouse hype? And I thought people liked OPM. Looks more like they care more about the studio rather than the franchise itself. |
Hrybami said: Zura_Orokamono said: It's about the ridiculous hype that Madhouse had in the past few years. People seem to think that if an anime is not made by them then it's gonna look bad. They totally disregard other great studios like Bones, JC Stuff or Prod IG. So it's really all about Madhouse hype? And I thought people liked OPM. Looks more like they care more about the studio rather than the franchise itself. There's definitely people who just wanted to point to OPM as proof that Madhouse "is still good", but I think it's more because J.C. Staff isn't really known for their action series. Sure they've done them before (they've done most genres, even hentai) but they're much better known for their rom-coms, dramas, and Food Wars. Definitely not what I think of when I think of OPM, but I don't see a need to fret over them working it any more or less than I would for most other studios. |
Hrybami said: Okay, since when people stopped trusting J.C. Staff? Or are you just implying that a studio change is automatically bad? I seriously can't tell... They haven't really been that noteworthy of a studio in recent years, especially compared to Madhouse. Though unlike people that are sorely sour at the fact that JC Staff are in charge of it now, there are those like me that are more mad about who they chose as director. Whoever chose a rookie who has only had one anime under his name as the main director is basically throwing him under the bus. If OPM 2 is even just a little bit worse than the first season, which is likely since this guy barely has experience, then he'll be ripped apart. Not only do the fans lose, but this director will have a serious gigantic blemish on his record as someone who messed up the OPM second season, regardless of how worse it actually is. There's still that possibility that it somehow becomes better than the first season, but there's nothing really telling us that's a possibility yet |
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burntphoenix said: Hrybami said: Okay, since when people stopped trusting J.C. Staff? Or are you just implying that a studio change is automatically bad? I seriously can't tell... They haven't really been that noteworthy of a studio in recent years, especially compared to Madhouse. Though unlike people that are sorely sour at the fact that JC Staff are in charge of it now, there are those like me that are more mad about who they chose as director. Whoever chose a rookie who has only had one anime under his name as the main director is basically throwing him under the bus. If OPM 2 is even just a little bit worse than the first season, which is likely since this guy barely has experience, then he'll be ripped apart. Not only do the fans lose, but this director will have a serious gigantic blemish on his record as someone who messed up the OPM second season, regardless of how worse it actually is. There's still that possibility that it somehow becomes better than the first season, but there's nothing really telling us that's a possibility yet This is quite subjective. J.C. Staff made Children of the Whaled just recently. If they can animate with great result something like that, then I see no reason why they couldn't achieve something generic like OPM. |
Hrybami said: burntphoenix said: They haven't really been that noteworthy of a studio in recent years, especially compared to Madhouse. Though unlike people that are sorely sour at the fact that JC Staff are in charge of it now, there are those like me that are more mad about who they chose as director. Whoever chose a rookie who has only had one anime under his name as the main director is basically throwing him under the bus. If OPM 2 is even just a little bit worse than the first season, which is likely since this guy barely has experience, then he'll be ripped apart. Not only do the fans lose, but this director will have a serious gigantic blemish on his record as someone who messed up the OPM second season, regardless of how worse it actually is. There's still that possibility that it somehow becomes better than the first season, but there's nothing really telling us that's a possibility yet This is quite subjective. J.C. Staff made Children of the Whaled just recently. If they can animate with great result something like that, then I see no reason why they couldn't achieve something generic like OPM. I'm not saying they haven't done anything noteworthy, just not that much compared to Madhouse. Also that's a pretty subjective take on OPM as well. 80% of OPM is it's execution, and great execution isn't just something everyone can do, especially a director that has barely any experience. I think you're also missing the fact that OPM is a parody |
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| Bones rises. Madhouse falls. Simple as that. Madhouse is not the powerhouse they used to be. Nowadays they even avoid having more than 1 anime per season while Bones uses their studio divisions to produce high quality anime "in mass". |
| It's simple: things worked out better for Mob Psycho 100 than for One Punch Man. |
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EpsilonX said: It's simple: things worked out better for Mob Psycho 100 than for One Punch Man. But why tho? One punch man is more mainstream than mob psycho 100 |
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Old_School_Akira said: EpsilonX said: It's simple: things worked out better for Mob Psycho 100 than for One Punch Man. But why tho? One punch man is more mainstream than mob psycho 100 Popularity has nothing to do with it. Maybe Madhouse couldn't renew the contract? Another theory is that there wasn't enough manga for OPM to do a second season. There's a whole host of behind-the-scenes stuff that could delay OPM season 2 but not affect Mob Psycho. |
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NoneNone said: EpsilonX said: Popularity has nothing to do with it. Maybe Madhouse couldn't renew the contract? Another theory is that there wasn't enough manga for OPM to do a second season. There's a whole host of behind-the-scenes stuff that could delay OPM season 2 but not affect Mob Psycho. Regardless of the issues and reasons for the studio change, it is true that OPM Season 1 covered 7 manga volumes, and there weren't even 6 more released until 2017. So even if everything had gone perfectly productionwise, it still would have been delayed til 2018. There are two popular theories of where season 2 will end, one of which is from mid 2017 and the other is from early 2018. So yeah. |
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NoneNone said: EpsilonX said: There are two popular theories of where season 2 will end, one of which is from mid 2017 and the other is from early 2018. So yeah. I wasn't even thinking of the plot, just looking at quantity of material to cover. If the content isn't there, far slower pacing or anime original filler would be required to make a whole season. But yes, those are the theorized endpoints. Oh I was just expanding upon what you said lol. |
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NoneNone said: Ah. Understood. Personally, I'm sticking with the poster as proof of ending in Volume 17 (based on Genos' outfit). Yeah, I think that's a great place to stop. Chapter 84 is such an epic final showdown and the next few chapters are a bit more relaxed in comparison. However...that'd be a lot of content to fit into one season, even if they cut down the tournament arc like they're saying will happen. |
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EpsilonX said: Popularity has nothing to do with it. Maybe Madhouse couldn't renew the contract? Another theory is that there wasn't enough manga for OPM to do a second season. There's a whole host of behind-the-scenes stuff that could delay OPM season 2 but not affect Mob Psycho. but One punch man was so successful. How can madhouse not have time for something that makes so much money? |
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Old_School_Akira said: EpsilonX said: Popularity has nothing to do with it. Maybe Madhouse couldn't renew the contract? Another theory is that there wasn't enough manga for OPM to do a second season. There's a whole host of behind-the-scenes stuff that could delay OPM season 2 but not affect Mob Psycho. but One punch man was so successful. How can madhouse not have time for something that makes so much money? The thing is, a lot of the staff members that worked on one punch man for madhouse where simple freelancers, they were not apart of the madhouse staff in the first place if I remember correctly. |
ClickBaitBuster said: keragamming said: what do you mean by that?The thing is, a lot of the staff members that worked on one punch man for madhouse where simple freelancers, they were not apart of the madhouse staff in the first place if I remember correctly. Basically madhouse outsource, so they got help from individuals outside of the company, but it is actually a normal thing that most if not all studio does. |
ClickBaitBuster said: keragamming said: Yea.. but how is that an answer for his question?Basically madhouse outsource, so they got help from individuals outside of the company, but it is actually a normal thing that most if not all studio does. Because since they are not apart of the studio, it also means there is a high chance they are working on other series since they are freelancers. They help out on one punch man because madhouse ask for help and they went with it, they now have move on, and maybe some of them were contacted but they were already working with another studio, not to mention it is a different studio now, so jc staff probably have different intention than madhouse altogether. All in all, the staff that work on onepunchman has disperse. snk for example, wit studio also have freelancers on the staff team, but they stick around when a season is in the making because they shared a bond together, though in season 3 one of the staff members decided to work on banana fish, because she really love the manga, but I bet she will be back for season 3 part 2. |
ClickBaitBuster said: deg said: In OPM 's case the studio is part of the production committee, but they're ranked 7th out of 8 companies, which is pretty low, so you're point about them not getting much profit still stands, Bones in the other hand is ranked 2nd in Mob 100's production committee, so they enjoy a lot more profit from it than Madhouse do from OPM.remember anime studios that do anime adaptations like this are just on a hire for work contract, so they do not get more profit from the overall profit of One Punch Man anime for example, the majority of profit goes to the production committee (a group of companies joined together to produce an anime and most of the time anime studios are not part of this group) so anime studios does not care which anime adaptations they will do next so anime studios does not care which anime adaptations they will do next that's a big generalizationand because anime is produced in an abundant manner this days its not impossible to think Madhouse and the original staff of One Punch Man is already contracted with new work (and they are confirmed to be the staff and studio of the new upcoming anime Boogiepop Never Laughs) before One Punch Man season 2 was planned OPM S2 was announced way before Boogiepop, it's more likely that Madhouse executives didn't want to invest time and resource into something they wouldn't profit from that much, they probably asked for a better deal with the rest of the production committee but they got rejected and thus they bailed out of S2 production, which resulted in the project getting handed to J.C Staff, not because they were the only studio who could pull off such a tremendous project, not because they were the only studio with empty schedule, but because they were the only studio who would cram it into their full ass schedule, which they also did with KonoSuba movie and Date A Live III.good point, we can see the quality suffer in recent JC staff works due to the problem of pumping out more releases than they could possibly handle. |
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