| And why? I do not quite understand, eh. |
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| I don't place inherent value based on animal vs human alone. It depends on the person and that animal. |
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| Not really, I value them both the same, because if you think about it, humans are also animals just more evolved ;/ |
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| I like to go to google first and check which one is more likely to go extinct. |
| No, I value human life more but that doesn't give me or other people excuse to abuse animals. One day if certain species evolve to the point where their intelligence is close to ours I believe they should be give equal rights. |
| i think i probably value human lives more. by just a little i dont hate animals by any means, i am like most other people and would really rather not see any animals be hurt in any way. but im not too in love with them either, i dont like raising pets or going to the zoo 149597871 said: No, I value human life more but that doesn't give me or other people excuse to abuse animals. One day if certain species evolve to the point where their intelligence is close to ours I believe they should be give equal rights. ^ yep |
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| (More serious response) I don't value them more than people. But I do care for them more than most people. My own pets are my own fur babies, I must nurture and protect them. No one is allowed to hurt my fur babies. And when in the context of pets as a whole, they are generally speaking safer to approach. Pets unless under abuse tend to be very loving, affectionate, honest and friendly creatures. People however can grow up totally fine and still turn out to be manipulative, uncaring and dishonest individuals. So I suppose my priority of care works like this. Close Friends > My Puppers > Other Puppers > Other People |
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| No, I place my species above others. I place my race above others as well. It's just human nature, whether you admit it or not. It's just the bias we were born with. I mean if I had a connection with a dog, more than I had one with you. Then yes I'd value my dog more than I value your life. |
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| I do not put value on either. We are all living AND a waste of space in this huge universe. If I had to value one more though, it'd be animals. Human lives matter too, but animals can't start nuclear wars and kill everyone. |
| woah there |
| Humans are the worse creatures in existence so I value animal life more than human life. All humans should just die and hand over the planet to animals and nature. |
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| 100% animals over humans I didn't even have to think about it. |
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| 100% animals over humans I didn't even have to think about it. |
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| Depends. I value my cats more than a random person on the street. |
| If we've been put on a life or death situation, of course I'd value human life. But other than that, I prefer caring animals more. |
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| It's not set in stone for all humans and animals, depends on what relation the human or the animal has to me. |
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| i value humans more..humans are more intelligent but idk |
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| i value humans more..humans are more intelligent but idk |
| hi,i like you. |
J_LEE_C said: 100% animals over humans I didn't even have to think about it. What type of humans are we discussing about? |
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| Pets are brainless, humans are intelligent. I can have jazz sessions with humans, I can learn math with humans, I can play sports with humans, have conversations with humans, and so on. Pets? Feed and pet them. Like come on, fuck that. |
| I value humans much more than I do animals. Humans are intelligent. I can engage in serious conversations, I can talk about my hobbies etc. while my cat rolls around, eats, sleeps and that's about it. Don't get me wrong I like my cat too but I think I'd save my best friend if I could only save one. |
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| Animals over humans because most of them aren't retards |
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Ehta said: We must be some terrible shit stains, to occupy only a small space inside this vast universe and still be considered a waste of space. I do not put value on either. We are all living AND a waste of space in this huge universe. If I had to value one more though, it'd be animals. Human lives matter too, but animals can't start nuclear wars and kill everyone. |
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| Nope, because animals belongs on the table (well most of them, not all of them ofc). Alsot admit it OP, you know what kind of discussion you're creating here with that topic. |
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No. Humans > machines > animals. Eventually we will be able to crete machines that love us unconditionally. I mean, what does an animal even do besides eat, sleep, shit and breed? Okay, the Navy's war dolphins are pretty cool, I might make an exception for them. Specially since they are more intelligent than primates. :3 |
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| animals > humans 100% gotta defend those who cant defend themselves literally a few days ago i read about two guys dragging a kitten along the road with their car and it made me wanna throw up. humans are the worst but babies and kids need saving too so i guess animals/babies > adults in terms of priority |
Ehta said: I do not put value on either. We are all living AND a waste of space in this huge universe. If I had to value one more though, it'd be animals. Human lives matter too, but animals can't start nuclear wars and kill everyone. I can't control the urge to point out the contradiction in 'waste of space in a huge universe'. Animals can't save millions of people or even animals by discovering a cure for a fatal illness. notebook said: animals > humans 100% gotta defend those who cant defend themselves literally a few days ago i read about two guys dragging a kitten along the road with their car and it made me wanna throw up. humans are the worst but babies and kids need saving too so i guess animals/babies > adults in terms of priority I've read stories of a tiger goring about 400 people to death. Similar stories told of other animals too. Yukitaze said: Animals over humans because most of them aren't retards Most of who aren't retards? kosikfl said: Yes, Because they give unconditional love Try not to feed your pets, and see how unconditional this love is. Kyoumo said: Don't really care but animals don't piss me off as often as humans seems to love doing, so I'll probably care more about a animal than some boring useless stranger or acquaintance outside. How many animals do you interact with daily as compared to humans? -------------------------- Now, to all the people I've quoted and some more that I didn't: your preference for animals is either indicative of a harmful sentimentality or self-inflicted loneliness or, the all-encompassing, stupidity. If you prefer your pets for their 'unconditional love', then you're only expressing your desire to be treated like a God, without having deserved even a fraction of that treatment. I know the fatuous appeal of being praised and loved constantly, without reservations, but please don't be so explicit with that; it's nauseating. If you prefer your pets because humans are cruel, then I should point out how dishonoring and ungrateful that is to all the people who are actually doing good. You may have been bullied, or neglected, and that has made you distrustful of your fellow humans, but most of this distrust is a self-fulfilling prophecy -- it feeds itself. Learn to fight your excuses. Others reasons aren't even worth addressing. |
| Silly YM, Humans eat animals.And they will eat the animals. Silly YM |
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Swagernator said: It is just a topic that came up in a conversation yesterday, so I decided to make a thread of it. The people who make no sense to me at all are the ones who go "I'll kill the people who abuse animals." But how is killing the person a sensible solution? And well, they are just animals. So, I was wondering why people care so much about them and having them not get hurt, when they eat them and such.... Nope, because animals belongs on the table (well most of them, not all of them ofc). Alsot admit it OP, you know what kind of discussion you're creating here with that topic. |
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notebook said: animals > humans 100% gotta defend those who cant defend themselves literally a few days ago i read about two guys dragging a kitten along the road with their car and it made me wanna throw up. humans are the worst but babies and kids need saving too so i guess animals/babies > adults in terms of priority Thanakos said: I've read stories of a tiger goring about 400 people to death. Similar stories told of other animals too. and..?? only psycho humans purposely kill for entertainment..animals kill to eat/defend themselves from other animals and humans even if a fox kills a chicken for fun we're smarter than animals yet humans still kill for fun and we have no excuse for it as we have higher intelligence animals are here just tryna survive and humans take their land and kill their food sources and then think they have the right to complain when an animal fights back lol |
| Not generally. But I value some animals above some humans. |
| I value the one who values me. And at this point I'm 100% sure that animals (my pet) values me more and I've been so sad these days because one of my pets passed away. |
notebook said: notebook said: animals > humans 100% gotta defend those who cant defend themselves literally a few days ago i read about two guys dragging a kitten along the road with their car and it made me wanna throw up. humans are the worst but babies and kids need saving too so i guess animals/babies > adults in terms of priority Thanakos said: I've read stories of a tiger goring about 400 people to death. Similar stories told of other animals too. and..?? only psycho humans purposely kill for entertainment..animals kill to eat/defend themselves from other animals and humans even if a fox kills a chicken for fun we're smarter than animals yet humans still kill for fun and we have no excuse for it as we have higher intelligence animals are here just tryna survive and humans take their land and kill their food sources and then think they have the right to complain when an animal fights back lol Orcas, arguably the smartest ocean creature, sometimes kills entirely for sport. Moreover, they often also play with their hunt, kicking it with their tail and then catching it mid-air -- all for fun. Champanzees, on their inter-tribe invasions and rebellions against the tribal leader, are known to cannibalize, for no reason other than to instill fear or perhaps, again, for fun. It seems that violence plotted against intelligence assumes a bell-shape curve, but I digress. Clearly, these smart animals are on par with our psychopaths. And whereas we have a whole species of psychopathic animals (forgive me for being too terse here), we only have a small fraction of psychopaths in humans. Yet, you choose the former over the latter. You should watch National Geographic, Discovery, and BBC Earth, a little more. |
Inphyy said: Animals love you unconditionally, but humans can easily hurt you. Everytime I'm around my dog, I feel good inside. And the same thing goes for good interactions with humans as well, but humans can also hurt each other, even if it's not intentional. I wouldn't go as far as to say that I value animals more than humans. But I do value the interaction, whether it's with an animal or a human, that produces the nicest feels. There are other animals than dogs you know? |
| I care for my collie Ruby as she is beautiful however I wouldn't put more love into people just because they deserve it due to the fact that they have more brain cells... this is a hard question, animals don't wage war however people have... |
| I value people who value animals more less than animals. |
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| I probably value both equally if I have no relation or knowledge of either, but if it's a situation where say, it's one of my pets over a stranger, I would value my pet more. |
| cats > cat boys > dog boys > boys > any female |
| I think my priority scale is like this : Myself > People/animal I love or respect > Random children > Random animal > Random people (adult) |
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| I wouldn't want to hurt anyone who does no harm, and seeing people/animals that did nothing harmful get killed is... not a pleasing sight. If they are going to kill the animal, then make food out of it. It's more of that thought that scares me, that they will be a waste. |
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| I honestly can't believe some of the answers in this thread. Are you people for real? Jim_Heart said: @Ehta @notebookI think my priority scale is like this : Myself > People/animal I love or respect > Random children > Random animal > Random people (adult) You're handed a gun and are locked in a room with a dog and a random human adult. You are being told that you now have to kill either the adult or the dog, or else someone close to you will die. You're telling me that you'd shoot the adult? Weirdo47 said: @LessaI value them equally, to be honest... A dog and a human are drowning in a lake and you can only save one. You're telling me that you wouldn't mind flipping a coin to decide who you save? Maou_heika said: Maybe you should break the first ground then, mate.Humans are the worse creatures in existence so I value animal life more than human life. All humans should just die and hand over the planet to animals and nature. Polychrome said: The correct answer.I value people who value animals more less than animals. This thread is weird, I'm just going to assume that more than half of the people who say "animals > humans" or "animals = humans" are just terrible confused and don't realize what the implications of such statements are. Or maybe they're legitimate psychopaths. |
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Railey2 said: im confused where did i say id be okay with shooting a person? this thread is about which do i value more...and i prefer my dogs over people @notebook You're handed a gun and are locked in a room with a dog and a random human adult. You are being told that you now have to kill either the adult or the dog, or else someone close to you will die. You're telling me that you'd shoot the adult? |
notebook said: Railey2 said: im confused where did i say id be okay with shooting a person? this thread is about which do i value more...and i prefer my dogs over people @notebook You're handed a gun and are locked in a room with a dog and a random human adult. You are being told that you now have to kill either the adult or the dog, or else someone close to you will die. You're telling me that you'd shoot the adult? I, too, never said I'd be alright with shooting a person. I also said that human lives matter too. I just value animals more. |
| woah there |
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