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| That was epic I can't believe this tournament got these good fights, Jiren pumped up now, it's gonna get really troublesome, and next episode Vegeta will go Blue again wtf how can he do that at least let him rest for two episodes. shayed__ said: Nostalgia bro good old days.that vegeta vs boo flashback hit me |
| It still bothers me the use of old DBZ footage for the flashback/memory moments, it looks dissonant, they should be redrawn and reanimated to fit Super's modern style... And are we gonna have a final twist or something to make the show end with a surprising final bang? we're only 5 episodes away from the conclusion and at this point it just looks like U7 is going to survive and let's go back home... that would be just kinda boring. Also I don't want cliffhangers...I want a properly concluded story... |
Wasy said: Lol ! Are you kidding ?! Buu saga was 8 more years ago , and he got stronger from then a lot ! His Body achieved God Ki , achieved the Super Saiyan version of God ki , even surpassed it !!! That blow is bearable for him And your point is? That Vegeta got stronger so he can tank it? A self-destruct move is still a self-destruct one. Since he got stronger his move also should have been increased in terms of power as well so he either should be dead or at least in a near-death situation. It's just plain logic. |
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Obito_enlighten said: Because Toppo cast his pride away and still lost. Meanwhile Vegeta kept his pride and managed to defeat Toppo, Jiren congratulated Vegeta for that. How can Jiren say Toppo pathetic . Jiren must have evil deep inside. |
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| Holy god, the pacing is all over the place this episode. The pointless scenes drag on forever, but the "emotional" scene with Vegeta recalling what he fights for lasted 15 seconds while failing to be inspiring on all front. The self-destructed move is shoe-horned in with no build up to it whatsoever, and somehow Vegeta survived taking both Hakai and his own suicidal move to his face, yeah right. Quite a big let down from last episode. |
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Wasy said: MonkeyDMike said: And your point is? That Vegeta got stronger so he can tank it? A self-destruct move is still a self-destruct one. Since he got stronger his move also should have been increased in terms of power as well so he either should be dead or at least in a near-death situation. It's just plain logic. He can control his self sacrificing blow ! If he really used that blow to sacrifice himself he would've been killed along with Toppo , so he would've been unable to keep his promise to Cabba !! Clearly, he didn't want to kill himself He didn't show no such thing. He was clearly using the maximum of his power since he managed to negate Hakai energy as well. If he tried to hold back, he would have been finished by Toppo's attack. |
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| It seems like an asspull that Vegeta survived self-destruction. Okay, he got stronger since the Buu saga, but it still doesn't make sense. He can tank more, but his attack got stronger too, which means he should have still died. Fine, he survived because of an asspull, but at least do not make him fight full-power next episode again, after a near death situation. Unless No.17 gave him energy (because he has infinite amount), it doesn't make much sense. Other than the logic flaws, it was a good episode, and I'm glad we are down to the last 5 people. It's 1v4 now. Next episode No.17 is going to get dropped out probably.  I loved this scene where Toppo blasted Frieza away, and Frieza was flying away in that weird pose, with a completely rigid animation, while screaming. This was definitely the worst animation in this episode. |
| Bruh, Jiren's personality changed so fast. I thought that Android 17 and Frieza would get eliminated this episode, but nope, no one from U7 got eliminated... interesting... |
Wasy said: MonkeyDMike said: He didn't show no such thing. He was clearly using the maximum of his power since he managed to negate Hakai energy as well. If he tried to hold back, he would have been finished by Toppo's attack. It wasn't holding back actually ! He controlled that Blow not to kill himself ! And if he even was , he was holding back just for that blow , he used its force to throw Toppo away out of the stage That's contradicting you know. You say that he isn't holding back yet he controlled the blow not to kill himself. It's a suicidal attack so if he tries to not get himself killed, it means that he was actually holding back. |
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| Is there any specific reason to why the episodes take 5 minutes to start? What is the purpose of the Previews, recaps and even 2 re-used minutes from the previous episodes? |
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Wasy said: MonkeyDMike said: That's contradicting you know. You say that he isn't holding back yet he controlled the blow not to kill himself. It's a suicidal attack so if he tries to not get himself killed, it means that he was actually holding back. I said "even he was holding back" Take it as he was holding back it was a suicidal attack, yah but he tried not kill himself You said this in your previous post: "It wasn't holding back actually!" that's why I wrote what I wrote. |
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| Can't hate Frieza. Get's pummeled last episode, comes back to mock the guy, who did it. Android 17 in DBS is hardly anything like his DBZ version. He went from sadistic little shit, who is overconfident with his power to stoic no-bullshit kind-of-guy. Not sure if the change is for the better, but I like, how he is taking clearly stronger oponnents on by nothing else, than being more skilled than them. Remember Final Explosion? But more importantly: Remember how Vegeta holds his arm, when he is fatigued. Now that's the nostalgia fan service I like! I guess DBS' Tournament of Power is like the video games; Vegeta can totally get away with 1 HP after using Final Explosion. My consensus for this episode is; the fights are fun, but the nostalgia pandering still bores me. |
| lol they just changed Jirens entire character. He said more than 2 words. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
Draknalor said: Is there any specific reason to why the episodes take 5 minutes to start? What is the purpose of the Previews, recaps and even 2 re-used minutes from the previous episodes? It's a long-running on-going shounen anime. The animators have nothing to work with, because they're waiting for the story template and direction. On the other side, people won't stop watching, so they're playing it safe, giving people just enough material to keep them invested and come back next week, when they will use the other ideas they have up their sleeve. Also budgeting is a thing. If you don't want to waste too much money, you have to figure out how to cut corners, so people are still satisfied with the product. Business just works that way. |
isekai said: there is still no Ultra Instinct Vegeta? damn at least Vegeta defeated Toppo, next week looks like Android 17 will be eliminated Vegeta doesn't want Ultra Instinct. He said Kakarot can have it. He'll do it his way. |
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RadTicTacs said: Kinda lame throwing that emotional DBZ flashback in there only for Vegeta to use the suicide move again but not die this time. For some reason, I feel like it invalidates him using it originally against Buu Invalidates? Please explain. |
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| finally toppo is out...one remains and four fighters left...I am pretty sure vegeta will try to do something despicable...5 episodes to go |
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| I think the reason Vegeta can destroy the Hakai attacks is just because he's stronger than Toppo, this is the first time Hakai was used against a more powerful enemy, actually, no, Frieza and Goku got a taste of it and they also didn't die, probably because the energy used against them was too small. Toppo with Hakai energy is probably just a bit stronger than without, but what gave him the edge("more edge" i should say) against Frieza and #17 was that he was able to destroy energy attacks way more easily and could tank weak energy attacks without even flinching. As it turns out, Toppo isn't at Hakaishin level, he just knows a couple of techniques. Frieza << #17 < G.Frieza < Toppo/Blue Goku < Blue Vegeta < God Toppo < KaiokenGoku/BluerVegeta << Jiren DekuHero said: Someone's gotta teach these characters the definition of the word "justice", I don't know why they're making a huge deal about Toppo "casting aside justice" when all he was doing was activating his special power up, something which the characters in this series do all the time. He's completely justified in his actions given that if he loses he and everyone else in his universe gets erased from existence and he wasn't intending to kill any of the U7 team members, even Freeza. All that build-up last episode about how Toppo was surrounding himself with Destruction Energy made it sound like they had to find a clever way of defeating him but in the end it comes down to the standard "overload him with more energy" method. He's basically trying to kill good people(but without being disqualified), that's not "Justice", he wants to survive knowing that it means that other people will get killed in his place, i don't remember Dragon Ball having justice fighters before, Gohan is probably the only fighter from U7 that actually fits that bill. robiu013 said: Can't hate Frieza. Get's pummeled last episode, comes back to mock the guy, who did it. Android 17 in DBS is hardly anything like his DBZ version. He went from sadistic little shit, who is overconfident with his power to stoic no-bullshit kind-of-guy. Not sure if the change is for the better, but I like, how he is taking clearly stronger oponnents on by nothing else, than being more skilled than them. Remember Final Explosion? But more importantly: Remember how Vegeta holds his arm, when he is fatigued. Now that's the nostalgia fan service I like! I guess DBS' Tournament of Power is like the video games; Vegeta can totally get away with 1 HP after using Final Explosion. My consensus for this episode is; the fights are fun, but the nostalgia pandering still bores me. Agree, 100% |
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| This episode was awesome, Vegeta got to shine and that super annoying Toppo got eliminated fast. Win-win. It surprised me that Frieza got up so fast after the pervious trashing though, I thought he would be out cold until the end of the fight xD. |
Janethan23 said: RadTicTacs said: Kinda lame throwing that emotional DBZ flashback in there only for Vegeta to use the suicide move again but not die this time. For some reason, I feel like it invalidates him using it originally against Buu Invalidates? Please explain. It changes the move from a last-ditch self-destruct for when you're completely out of options to an attack that only damages himself some and drains all his energy. The attack itself is fundamentally different now and it means Vegeta died against Buu because he couldn't handle his own power. Also, if he could survive it but it defeated Toppo, then wouldn't that make Vegeta stronger (or at least more durable) than Toppo? When Vegeta used it against Buu, it was because Buu was far stronger than him and he was desperate but here he just used it as a finisher against a guy he may not have even needed it for. |
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| Vegetas time to shine! Liked the episode Flashback was kind of unnecessary, but well..whatever |
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| Good fuggin' shit. I can't believe how Frieza even has the will to come back for more after he took all that thrashing lmao, he's really something. Damn Vegeta though, that was no doubt the highlighting factor for him in the tournament until now. it's not over yet though, it may be 4 vs 1 but the odds are still way one-sided and Universe 7 is in a pinch as Vegeta has to recover completely. What's more, Jiren is completely pissed now lol. How will the guys stop this fucking monster? FIND OUT NEXT TIME ON DRAGON BALL SUPER |
| Jiren gave me creeps when said THAT to his teammates. 17 is my MVP for this tournament. Vegeta is awesome!!! |
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Wasy said: He can control his self sacrificing blow ! If he really used that blow to sacrifice himself he would've been killed along with Toppo , so he would've been unable to keep his promise to Cabba !! Clearly, he didn't want to kill himself If he can control it so as to not go down with it, it's no longer a "self sacrificing blow". It's just a big energy burst that tuckers him out. In effect, it cheapens the time he did it against Buu as an actual sacrifice. They could've had him do literally any other move with the same end result (a new stronger Gallick Gun, or whatever) and it would've worked much better. But this way they could pad the episode out by having the peanut gallery gasp about him using "that move" for fifteen minutes, and pad it even more by using stock footage as well. I wouldn't be surprised if the manga alters this to be another attack. DekuHero said: Someone's gotta teach these characters the definition of the word "justice" Pretty much. Toppo and Ribrianne are essentially the same character. Just exchange "love" for "justice" and very little changes outside of the specific attacks they use. I've always had a problem with characters that take one concept, like love or justice, and apply it to absolutely everything no matter how little sense it makes. |
LuZekeFeb 6, 2018 1:53 PM
| GTGO Toppo. 17 is the mvp of this Tournamnet. Freeza is hiding...again. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| There goes DBS once again, re-doing something memorable but in a much more inferior way. Good job. So now basically Goku is the only one with enough energy to take on Jiren and his hidden power. Cool, let's see how this goes. |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| Really loved that episode. Toppo like in the last episodes showed how unhumanly strong he is. I didn't expect Freezer to fight again after his beat up by Toppo, but he and 17 had a hard time against Toppos destruction power. At first it also looked like Vegeta can't do to much against it. His power up was amazing. Toppo had so much trouble and it didn't looked like that he was holding back. That flashback of Vegetas fight against Buu was just perfect and SSB made it possible to use the same attack but without being in danger to die which is nice. And so Toppo got kicked out of the tournament which was very surprising. The only problem now, Vegeta has no power left, Jiren was smiling :o and is now about to show his true power. I have no clue what they want to do against this monster. |
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| vegeta finally had his moment to be a badass again. |
| At first, I thought what Jiren said was out of character. But the more I realize it, it really isn't. Jiren is all about respect and purity, seeing as he told Goku and Vegeta about how they fight and what they seek and what not. Toppo threw away ALL of his ideals, just to become stronger and STILL lose. Meanwhile Vegeta beat him because he's trying to protect the things that he loves. That's why Jiren congratulated him (saying how he beat Toppo without casting anything aside like Toppo did) , yet looked down on his own teammate. |
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| So, Bejita's new "form" is really a new stage, based on the fact his eyes change from pure blue (like the SSJ1-2/SSJGSSJ) to blue circled black (like SSJ3). -_-" 2/5 This explanation for Bejita's survival. XD Those guys are even stronger than Toriyama himself ! |
| One of the best Vegeta moment in Super, he remembering his family and his promise to Cabba was really nice. Looks like Jiren don't respect Toppo for his decision in sacrifice everything for power. Now it's time to see Jiren with full power, must be really scary. |
| Yes finally a badass vegeta moment He just rocked! !!! Jiren seems to be really cocky as he is not respecting toppo 's strenght after he lost. Not nice :o |
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| Is DB super really over after the tournament??? :((( |
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| 3 Vs. Jiren, because Toppo was eliminated,but where is Freiza? It was the first time that Toppo used a bad word, of disparagement against Toppo for his elimination, why? :/ |
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