Brand new interview, is it undeniable that anime dubbing is just BAD in general and ruin immersion, just as our Japanese responders said? are you still not convinced? tldw            and I agree the Naruto ones are not bad |
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| Oh my, it wasn't only me watching Yuta then. |
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| Truth has been spoken. But honestly, did people expected something different ? It's not like this is some kind of secret. |
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| iTS JuST BeCauSe THeY DoNT uNDeRSTaND THe LaNGuaGe JuST LiKe THeM WeaBoo SuB eLiTiSTS (everybody on this site is from an English speaking country so they have to prefer dubs) HoWeVeR I aS a MoNoLiNGuaL DuB eLiTiST aM 100 % MaGiCaLLy QuaLiFieD To JuDGe THe QuaLiTy SoLeMNeLy BeCauSe oF The FaCT THaT i THiNK DuBS > SuBs aY LMao XD XD |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Dub will always be inferior no discussion |
| You don't need a reaction video to realize the English VAs are fucking dogshit. No one takes anime seriously here, even if the recent ones are supposedly better, they still need a lot of work to sound at least authentic. |
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| Your anime list looks impressive. And, why do you even care? Just watch sub and move on. OT: Asking people what they like. Something they don't understand vs something they understand. Lol |
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oryouohagi said: his japanese lesson sellout in the end of every video is greatOh my, it wasn't only me watching Yuta then. Kenny_Stryker said: Why do you even care? I make this thread for people who careYour anime list looks impressive. And, why do you even care? Just watch sub and move on. OT: Asking people what they like. Something they don't understand vs something they understand. Lol |
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Comic_Sans said: everybody on this site is from an English speaking country I don't know where you got this from, but let me tell you you're just plain wrong. |
Klad said: Dub will always be inferior no discussion Some dubs can be transcendentally bad however, and drag a so down so much that it elevates it. I believe the dubs of the Akito The Exiled OVA series to be of this quality. |
| All Dubs must die! "Its 2017 and anime is still legal. What the fuck is congress doing" - Totalbiscuit |
Kenny_Stryker said: >Dismisses people's opinions because they don't understand the languageOT: Asking people what they like. Something they don't understand vs something they understand. Lol >Also writes shit like this Subs VS Dubs thread said: You are totally delusional if you think that subs are superior than dubs. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| I tried to fap to hentai english dub, I can vouch for this. |
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Shiura_Aoi said: You do realize that I was parodying ignorant English dub elitists, right? I'm not from the Anglosphere myself, it would be ridiculous of me to claim that everybody on this site is a native English speakerI don't know where you got this from, but let me tell you you're just plain wrong. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Japanese prefer Japanese audio?! Waow! Are you going to tell me next blackbody radiation does not really refer to the Out-of-Africa theory or the Mitochondrial Eve hypothesis? Mate, you are about as sharp as a coconut. And your skull is just as full. |
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le_halfhand_easy said: Why are you mocking OP for revealing that Japanese people prefer Japanese audio, thus implying that it's only natural that they do?Japanese prefer Japanese audio?! Waow! Are you going to tell me next blackbody radiation does not really refer to the Out-of-Africa theory or the Mitochondrial Eve hypothesis? Mate, you are about as sharp as a coconut. I watch English speaking shows in English despite it not being my native tongue. People aren't genetically programmed to prefer their native language just because it's their native language. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
le_halfhand_easy said: Japanese prefer Japanese audio?! Waow! Are you going to tell me next blackbody radiation does not really refer to the Out-of-Africa theory or the Mitochondrial Eve hypothesis? Mate, you are about as sharp as a coconut. And your skull is just as full. do you watch Korean, Chinese, Indian, Thai, Chinese, Japanese etc movie dubbed? Original will always prevail no matter what. |
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Comic_Sans said: Kenny_Stryker said: >Dismisses people's opinions because they don't understand the languageOT: Asking people what they like. Something they don't understand vs something they understand. Lol >Also writes shit like this Subs VS Dubs thread said: You are totally delusional if you think that subs are superior than dubs. I dismissed others opinion? Wut? And, have a look for yourself: https://myanimelist.net/anime/34572/Black_Clover_TV |
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| "Japanese anime characters are young but the English voices are too deep" Yet this was the case for 11yo Yamato Ishida: compare 0:26 to 6:16 The only voice that sounds "too deep" for the young character to me is the japanese one |
Kenny_Stryker said: Yes, the implication here is "because they don't speak English/aren't good at the language, they aren't able to judge the quality of the dub. Silly Japs ay lmao xD". Yet at the same time you, a person who doesn't speak Japanese, have claimed you are able to judge the quality of Japanese dubs not only once, but twice (from what I've seen, you've probably done it more times):I dismissed others opinion? Wut? And, have a look for yourself: https://myanimelist.net/anime/34572/Black_Clover_TV The implication here is "Japanese dubs aren't superior, just listen to the terrible Japanese Black Clover dub!" but according to your own logic you shouldn't be able to judge whether the original version of BC is inferior to its English counterpart or not since you don't speak Japanese. In other words, this is a great example of the dub elitist double think I was talking about in post #5. |
Comic_SansDec 19, 2017 7:43 AM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Comic_Sans said: Kenny_Stryker said: Yes, the implication here is that "because they don't speak English/aren't good at the language, they aren't able to judge the quality of the dub". Yet at the same time you, a person who doesn't speak Japanese, claim you are able to judge the quality of Japanese dubs not only once, but twice:I dismissed others opinion? Wut? And, have a look for yourself: https://myanimelist.net/anime/34572/Black_Clover_TV The implication here is "Japanese dubs aren't superior, just listen to the terrible Japanese Black Clover dub!" but according to your own logic you shouldn't be able to judge whether the original version of BC is inferior to its English counterpart or not since you don't speak Japanese. In other words, this is a great example of the dub elitist double think I was talking about in post #5.First and foremost, I NEVER said that subs are inferior. I just never claimed that dubs are inferior to that of subs. If dubs were actually bad, companies like Funimation and Sentai Filmworks would have ceased to exist long ago. I've been enjoying dubs, and no regrets. And, apparently, I'm not the one who said the original is bad, it's all you guys who claimed that. Don't believe me? Check out the forums for yourself. Most recent thread: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1693450 |
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Comic_Sans said: iTS JuST BeCauSe THeY DoNT uNDeRSTaND THe LaNGuaGe JuST LiKe THeM WeaBoo SuB eLiTiSTS (everybody on this site is from an English speaking country so they have to prefer dubs) HoWeVeR I aS a MoNoLiNGuaL DuB eLiTiST aM 100 % MaGiCaLLy QuaLiFieD To JuDGe THe QuaLiTy SoLeMNeLy BeCauSe oF The FaCT THaT i THiNK DuBS > SuBs aY LMao XD XD You don't need to understand the language to recognize the tone. |
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Kenny_Stryker said: If dubs were actually bad, companies like Funimation and Sentai Filmworks would have ceased to exist long ago. I've been enjoying dubs, and no regrets. Tbh the logic of "if people watch it then it's good" it's pretty flawed; Comic_Sans said: iTS JuST BeCauSe THeY DoNT uNDeRSTaND THe LaNGuaGe JuST LiKe THeM WeaBoo SuB eLiTiSTS (everybody on this site is from an English speaking country so they have to prefer dubs) HoWeVeR I aS a MoNoLiNGuaL DuB eLiTiST aM 100 % MaGiCaLLy QuaLiFieD To JuDGe THe QuaLiTy SoLeMNeLy BeCauSe oF The FaCT THaT i THiNK DuBS > SuBs aY LMao XD XD i'm really impressed that people can't recognize you're being sarcastic lol |
Kenny_Stryker said: Please, I've seen you post in Subs VS Dubs threads before. If you don't want to stand behind your words then don't write them to begin with.First and foremost, I NEVER said that subs are inferior. I just never claimed that dubs are inferior to that of subs. If dubs were actually bad, companies like Funimation and Sentai Filmworks would have ceased to exist long ago. I've been enjoying dubs, and no regrets. If child labor were actually bad then it would've ceased to exist long ago.If Adam Sandler were a bad comedian then he would've had to quit acting a long time ago. If Hitler had been a bad person then he wouldn't have become the leader of Germany back in the 1930s. See now why your logic doesn't work? Just because something is common or popular it doesn't mean that it's a good thing. And, apparently, I'm not the one who said the original is bad, it's all you guys who claimed that. Don't believe me? Check out the forums for yourself. So now all of a sudden you think people can judge the voice acting in a language they don't understand/aren't fluent in despite claiming otherwise only a few posts ago? You can't claim something logically inconsistent and then suddenly switch to something else that also goes against your logic.MortalMelancholy said: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/joke#EnglishYou don't need to understand the language to recognize the tone. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Of course it's strange to them. I feel the same way watching, say, a German dub of Adventure Time. |
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| Hmm, I re-watch Spice and Wolf in dub version before I start reading the novel so that I can feel its realistic sense, seeing western people speaking japanese felt awkward to me, but damn, that was terrible that I want to download the Japanese Version to re-watch it on the third time. |
youseikiDec 19, 2017 8:04 AM
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iscum said: Same, especially considering that it should be a well known fact at this point that I don't like dubs. I'm triggeredi'm really impressed that people can't recognize you're being sarcastic lol |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| @Wasshio >Danganronpa 3 dub FUCKING HEATHEN  |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Can the sub v dub debate please die? You're all aggressive simpletons for continuing to continue it and try to mock people on opposite sides for having opinions about voice acting! Let this shit die already! Especially Comic and Gunslinger! |
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Comic_Sans said: Kenny_Stryker said: Please, I've seen you post in Subs VS Dubs threads before. If you don't want to stand behind your words then don't write them to begin with.First and foremost, I NEVER said that subs are inferior. I just never claimed that dubs are inferior to that of subs. If dubs were actually bad, companies like Funimation and Sentai Filmworks would have ceased to exist long ago. I've been enjoying dubs, and no regrets. If child labor were actually bad then it would've ceased to exist long ago.If Adam Sandler were a bad comedian then he would've had to quit acting a long time ago. If Hitler had been a bad person then he wouldn't have become the leader of Germany back in the 1930s. See now why your logic doesn't work? Just because something is common or popular it doesn't mean that it's a good thing. And, apparently, I'm not the one who said the original is bad, it's all you guys who claimed that. Don't believe me? Check out the forums for yourself. So now all of a sudden you think people can judge the voice acting in a language they don't understand/aren't fluent in despite claiming otherwise only a few posts ago? You can't claim something logically inconsistent and then suddenly switch to something else that also goes against your logic.MortalMelancholy said: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/joke#EnglishYou don't need to understand the language to recognize the tone. Sarcasm can't help but be lost in text. |
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I thought that you were going to post that xD I'm sorry if I brought a hell hole back in. But its just to prove a point by the logic placed. My god the memefying level of it is so bad. x.x |
MortalMelancholy said: Sarcasm can't help but be lost in text. Same, especially considering that it should be a well known fact at this point that I don't like dubs. I'm triggered Also if somebody WRiTeS LiKe THiS then there's a pretty big chance they're not being serious.Wasshio said: I know that feeling famI thought that you were going to post that xD I'm sorry if I brought a hell hole back in. But its just to prove a point by the logic placed. My god the memefying level of it is so bad. x.x |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
GangsterCat said: oryouohagi said: his japanese lesson sellout in the end of every video is greatOh my, it wasn't only me watching Yuta then. I don't need this lessons at this point, although I do love his interviews and interesting videos where he talks about stuff concerning Japan. There's this other guy, Find your love in japan is the name of the channel I think, but his engrish is rather strong for my taste. |
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| I can agree that most dubs are below average (read:are bad), but asking a Japanese person about dubs is kinda unfair. They might not have good understanding of the English language. But I'm not here to argue that dubs are better. Subs>Dubs. |
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Wasshio said: I, Reverend Code, shall preach this shit to the dying planet!!!CodeBlazeFate said: Can the sub v dub debate please die? You're all aggressive simpletons for continuing to continue it and try to mock people on opposite sides for having opinions about voice acting! Let this shit die already! Especially Comic and Gunslinger! PREACH THIS SHIT! PREACH! Actually no. LETS NUKE PLANET EARTH WITH SOME SORT OF ALIEN MACHINERY! |
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Comic_Sans said: MortalMelancholy said: Sarcasm can't help but be lost in text. Same, especially considering that it should be a well known fact at this point that I don't like dubs. I'm triggered Also if somebody WRiTeS LiKe THiS then there's a pretty big chance they're not being serious. MAyBe tHEy'rE juSt R3eEalLy B0r3d? |
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| There's not a lot of good English dubbed anime but they definitely exist. Death Note for example I would say is equally as good if not better than the Japanese dub. Dragonball ... well for me the English dub fit them perfect but then again I watched it at a really young age on TV and never experienced the Japanese dub, now whenever I hear Goku talk in Japanese he sounds WAY too high pitched for my liking. I've also had a few other shows that I've seen in the English dub that did their job just fine; - Afro Samurai - Black Lagoon - Cowboy Bebop - Ergo Proxy - Kingsglaive: Final Fantasy XV - Spirited Away - Steamboy - Trigun Overall the Japanese dub is just better in almost every show though. Also I'm neither Japanese or English. |
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| Dubs will always be inferior. Part of the dubbing process is creating new dialogue to sync with lip movements even if the dialogue doesn't convey the intended meaning. So some dubs will be more faithful to the original, but none of them are perfect. Add that to the fact that pretty much nobody in the Japanese to English localization industry takes dubbing seriously and you've got a recipe for a terrible end product 98% of the time. If you want to watch what the creators intended, watch the subbed version. |
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| As a person who has studied Japanese a bit, and can pick out at least some Japanese conversations, I still like dubs, although I watch both. It really depends on what you watch first. If you watched an entire series subbed, and then hear it dubbed later, it's going to sound strange to you. The same goes if you saw an Anime dubbed first, then the Japanese voices will sound strange. I couldn't imagine watching Akira or Slayers subbed, because I grew up with Cam Clarke as Kaneda, and Lisa Ortiz as Lina Inverse, and the Japanese voices would just sound weird to me. |
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| I bet they interviewed way more people and just added all the ones who didn't like dub... The internet is fake... Trust nothing |
Omkar_Nagwade said: I can agree that most dubs are below average (read:are bad), but asking a Japanese person about dubs is kinda unfair. They might not have good understanding of the English language. But I'm not here to argue that dubs are better. Subs>Dubs. This doesn't make much sense. It's unfair to ask Japanese about dubs, because they might not understand English well? But it's fine to ask non-Japanese about sub when 90% of them don't speak Japanese beyond "arigatou" and "kawaii"? |
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Comic_Sans said: You do realize that I was parodying ignorant English dub elitists, right? I'm not from the Anglosphere myself, it would be ridiculous of me to claim that everybody on this site is a native English speaker Oh, no I did not notice, I'm very sorry. |
| >"I prefer the original because I don't understand English much." So this is what this sub vs. dub debate has come to, eh? Grasping at the opinion of Japanese viewers' opinion on English dubs as an argument for dubs being objectively inferior. Look, watch whatever the hell you want, but this is not proof of dubs being inferior. Hell, wanting to watch something in your native language is the reason dubs exist in the first place. Try thinking before you make a thread or post for a change, OP (though that's unlikely to happen anytime soon). |
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