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Duterte will let his son be killed if the drug accusations against him are true

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Sep 21, 2017 9:17 PM
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I'm not surprised, the man is a nutjob with no empathy.

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He's going end up being half as bad as Kim Jung Un soon. A normal political would let their family member be imprisoned for a crime instead of killed.


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Sep 21, 2017 9:24 PM
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Hard to feel sorry for the country, idiotic populations choose idiotic leaders.
Sep 21, 2017 10:06 PM
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Duterte is a utilitarian (with beliefs of for the greater good and the end justify the means) with authoritarian tendencies, i hope we can survive under his presidency here
degSep 21, 2017 10:23 PM
Sep 21, 2017 10:52 PM
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Hopefully someone pulls a coup d'état on Duterte. I'm not sure who would do it though. He isn't same enough to rain with diplomacy.
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Sep 21, 2017 11:11 PM
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I think he's suited very well for politics. I don't know him, but this is good.

A men should be strong and strict.
This is a good example
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. | You know what I hate the most? People who aren't free. They're no more than cattle.
Sep 21, 2017 11:14 PM
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Duterte is a great leader.
Philippines people did a excellent job by electing such a great and capable leader as the president of Phillippines
He is faithful to his country and his people.



Duterte shows no mercy to ISIS terrorists, drug dealers, etc.



traed said:
Hopefully someone pulls a coup d'état on Duterte. I'm not sure who would do it though. He isn't same enough to rain with diplomacy.


Yes and install a US puppet leader in Philippines.
swirlydragonSep 22, 2017 1:03 AM
Sep 21, 2017 11:36 PM
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swirlydragon said:

traed said:
Hopefully someone pulls a coup d'état on Duterte. I'm not sure who would do it though. He isn't same enough to rain with diplomacy.


Yes and install a US puppet leader in Philippines.


I don't mean a foreign run coup. I mean domestic.

Also no he killing drug users not just dealers and it's for soft drugs like weed too not hard drugs only.
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Sep 21, 2017 11:54 PM
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traed said:
I don't mean a foreign run coup. I mean domestic.


Yeah that's what American government always says before they start funding, arming and training a bunch of anarchists in that country in order to overthrow the legitimate and democratically elected leader of that country and transform that peaceful country into a graveyard just because it didn't bow down to Western imperialism or didn't offer to sell it's natural resources (in cheap) to Western countries


traed said:
Also no he killing drug users not just dealers and it's for soft drugs like weed too not hard drugs only.


Yeah and I am pretty sure that CNN, NYtimes, Fox, etc pointed out this news
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Sep 22, 2017 12:03 AM
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Lol

Karma is a bitch
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained
Sep 22, 2017 12:09 AM

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At least he's not a hypocrite.
Sep 22, 2017 12:27 AM

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swirlydragon said:

Yeah that's what American government always says before they start funding, arming and training a bunch of anarchists in that country in order to overthrow the legitimate and democratically elected leader of that country and transform that peaceful country into a graveyard just because it didn't bow down to Western imperialism or didn't offer to sell it's natural resources (in cheap) to Western countries

What particular country are you talking about? I'm not the government

Yeah and I am pretty sure that CNN, NYtimes, Fox, etc pointed out this news

Yeah that's kind of the very definition of news.... pointing things out

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/07/14/1719541/not-acceptable-morales-slams-dutertes-order-kill-criminals

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/913864/ombudsman-morales-duterte-goading-people-to-kill
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Sep 22, 2017 12:44 AM

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yhunata said:
At least he's not a hypocrite.

Yeah...he's just a murderer.
I'll take a hypocrite over a murderer any day of the week.
We are all hypocrites at times, but very few of us throw our political opponents put of a helicopter and then brag about it.
Sep 22, 2017 1:00 AM

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traed said:

What particular country are you talking about?


What particular country am I talking about?
Well, actually there are countless, but I am just gonna post these here.





traed said:
I'm not the government


Yes, but you are a American
Are you not?
Therefore, I can understand why you have a negative opinion about Duterte.



Oh please!
I am not gonna believe these Western news articles.
These same news articles also claim that white helmets are a non-profit Humanitarian organization working in Syria to save innocent Syrian lives when in reality it has been confirmed countless times that white helmets work for the Al-Qaeda affiliated HTS (Hayat Tahrir al Sham) formerly known as Jabhat al Nusra in Idlib. They've been caught beheading small children, dumping the dead bodies of Syrian soldiers and staging rescue operations (i can show you the videos in liveleak, if you want).
In fact HTS even called White helmets as their own soldiers fighting for their cause (they issued a statement on it)
Furthermore, even the lying Western media calls HTS a Al-Qaeda affiliated group.
But Western media still calls them (white helmets) heroes and sometimes also refer to them as "moderate beheaders/oppositions" and they even got a Oscar/noble peace prize.
They also get a lot of funding from UK and other Western countries.
Even Wikipedia calls them a humanitarian organization.
Therefore, I won't believe Western media anymore.
Even if they say that sun is shining in the sky, I will STILL NOT BELIEVE THAT! (due to them continuing to lie)
I refuse to be a sheeple drinking kool aid given to me by Western media.
I use to read articles of AljaZeera, NYtimes, TYT, daily mail, etc and believe their lies previously, but NOT ANYMORE!

Therefore, if what you're saying is true about Duterte then show me a RT/sputnik news article to back up your claim.

Until then..........
God bless Duterte
God bless Philippines




Philippines is NOT A YANKEE STATE!
Therefore, Western government doesn't get to decide the fate of Philippines or whether Duterte is a good leader or not.
Only Philippines people get to DECIDE THAT!
And majority of them voted for him!
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So if you don't like US foreign policy, you automatically have to like every single tyrant that Westerners disapprove of? Is that how it works? Yes god bless the man that enjoys killing his own people.

Fucking lunatic.
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Countless but you couldn't name one historic example. The US has done various coups and regime changes and proxy wars butt I'm not aware of any with anarchists. It's more often the opposite like how Pinoche was installed in Chile. So ISIS is an American run anarchist group now? Lol What do those pictures mean to you?

I don't consider myself American in the social concept of it but I am nationality wise. Stop being a paranoid bigot. Having a negative opinion on him has nothing to do with what country I was born in, it has to do with his tyrannical actions.

Those are philipino news sites I linked. Apparently the Philippines is the West now.

RT is a mouthpiece of the Russian government. Also you could have looked it up yourself.
https://www.rt.com/news/397330-duterte-speech-drug-hell/
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so apparently giving local news articles are USA propaganda too, ridiculous conspiracy theory

the fact is only 16 million people (out of 40 million voters, its not like the whole population here which is 100 million supports Duterte) voted for Duterte that includes me that im regretting right now since instead of helping the poor he rather kill them

Portugal is one example of how to fight the drug war, they do not label being a drug user as a crime rather label it as a public health concern and given the poor some basic income since the poor is mostly the drug users anyway

At the turn of the millennium, Portugal shifted drug control from the Justice Department to the Ministry of Health and instituted a robust public health model for treating hard drug addiction. It also expanded the welfare system in the form of a guaranteed minimum income. Changes in the material and health resources for at-risk populations for the past decade are a major factor in evaluating the evolution of Portugal's drug situation.

https://mic.com/articles/110344/14-years-after-portugal-decriminalized-all-drugs-here-s-what-s-happening#.DNU4I61jR
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Countless but you couldn't name one historic example. The US has done various coups and regime changes and proxy wars butt I'm not aware of any with anarchists.


Well to name a few, they are FSA, Southern Front, Jaysh al-Sham, etc in Syria.
And there are countless more.
Also, don't forget about the neo-nazis that were supported in Ukraine by US.
Those Neo-Nazis even trapped and burned down a building full of innocent people who were merely protesting against Ukrainian government.

traed said:
It's more often the opposite like how Pinoche was installed in Chile. So ISIS is an American run anarchist group now? Lol What do those pictures mean to you?


You do realize that ISIS are not the only terrorist groups, right?
Here let me explain some things to you.
It's true that US doesn't directly support ISIS since ISIS is also a threat to Western countries.
ISIS wants a global caliphate so they will attack anyone who are against them.
But here's the catch.
Just because someone is your enemy doesn't mean you can't take advantage of him.
US knows that ISIS is not really a threat to them since US can defeat ISIS whenever they want.
US has the best airforce in the world, possesses over 7,000 nukes, has the highest military budget all around the globe, possesses highest number of active military personnels, possesses advanced weapons, etc.
Therefore, they couldn't care less about ISIS as long as ISIS only attacks their enemy.
I mean let's not forget that a US republican suggested (in front of Western media) that US should support ISIS in the fight against Assad.
Now the real question is, why would a US republican say that?
Is it that US government has supported ISIS (not openly) before and now wants to support it openly?
Let's not forget the day when US, France and Britain ruthlessly bombed SAA soldiers fighting ISIS in Deir Ezzor 3 years ago which resulted in ISIS capturing Deir Ezzor and 100 SAA soldiers being killed and more than half of their military equipment being destroyed.
Now this is how Western media reported it:-

CNN:- US mistakenly bombs Syrian soldiers instead of ISIS
NYtimes:- Huge mistake! US bombed regime forces in Syria thinking they were Islamic State
Same headlines apply for Fox News, Daily mail, etc

But this is how RT reported it:-

US, France and Britain acting as ISIS air force in Syria.

Now tell me, do you really expect me to believe that US, UK and France actually kept bombing Syrian forces fighting ISIS by mistake?
Of course not!
Obama wanted ISIS to capture as much Syrian land as they can so that US can increase pressure over Assad/Syria and bring Assad to the negotiating table.
They just wanted the Syrian oil.

Now another question one needs to ask himself is, how did ISIS acquire Syrian land?
I am sure that you know US, UK, France, etc funded, armed and trained Syrian rebels by calling them freedom fighters who took over many territories from Syrian government.
Now do you know what's funny about this?
The territories those Syrian rebels took over from the Syrian government became ISIS territory after some time.
Is that a coincidence?
Of course not!

traed said:
I don't consider myself American in the social concept of it but I am nationality wise.


I see

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Stop being a paranoid bigot.


When have I been a bigot?
I don't remember saying anything bad about anyone's ethnicity, religion, race, color, etc.
Just because I expose America's hypocrisy doesn't mean I am a bigot

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Having a negative opinion on him has nothing to do with what country I was born in, it has to do with his tyrannical actions.


He is not tyrannical.
Just because he doesn't bow down to Western imperialism doesn't mean he is tyrannical.

traed said:
Those are philipino news sites I linked. Apparently the Philippines is the West now.


Yeah and I am pretty sure those sites are paid by Western countries


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RT is a mouthpiece of the Russian government. Also you could have looked it up yourself.

https://www.rt.com/news/397330-duterte-speech-drug-hell/


At least RT exposes the truth about US and other Western countries.
They even exposed the white helmets.
Now tell me one Western site that exposed the white helmets as a terrorist organizaton. I bet you won't find one since Western countries openly support white helmets by calling them humanitarians.
As for the article, I guess you are not entirely wrong, but Philippines needs a strict leader like Duterte at such a critical time when the country is attacked by ISIS and is currently suffering from drug war.
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Swirly's obsession for mass murderers is kinda troubling. Do you guys think he sends love letters to jailed serial killers too?
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Swirly's obsession for mass murderers is kinda troubling. Do you guys think he sends love letters to jailed serial killers too?


It's just his mentally unstable Western hatred that makes him support lunatic leaders. I mean damn, we're not that bad LOL
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@NudeBear I do think we're that bad, but it's not a reason to suck the other shitty side instead @_@

He's like those dumb people who watch a video of a dude kicking a dog and gather with pitchforks, screaming "lets burn that monster!". The lack of self-awareness is painful.
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Clebardman said:
Swirly's obsession for mass murderers is kinda troubling. Do you guys think he sends love letters to jailed serial killers too?


I do not support mass murderers.
If I were supporting mass murderers then I would have also been supporting Al Saud family, Netanyahoo, Bush, Hitler, Erdogan, etc
It's just that if a country is fighting terrorists then I consider that country a good country (regardless of what that country's religion, race, ethnicity, color, etc is)
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Clebardman said:
Swirly's obsession for mass murderers is kinda troubling. Do you guys think he sends love letters to jailed serial killers too?


I do not support mass murderers.
If I were supporting mass murderers then I would have also been supporting Al Saud family, Netanyahoo, Bush, Hitler, Erdogan, etc
It's just that if a country is fighting terrorists then I consider that country a good country.

Wait...
Weren't you fangirling over Erdogan too, that charismatic third world leader who dares oppose westerner pigs?
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Wait...
Weren't you fangirling over Erdogan too, that charismatic third world leader who dares oppose westerner pigs?


Erdogan is a piece of slimy shit.
Why would I support him?
But yeah, I do like his stance over Kurdish forces, but that doesn't mean I support him.
The only thing I want is for Assad and Putin to take advantage of Erdogan's stupidity and use him against the Kurds who want to balkanize Syria.
After that is done, Putin and Assad can throw Erdogan like a used piece of condom.
Erdogan is a two-faced devil.
No one should trust him.
But sadly his cooperation is needed in order to throw SDF (Kurdish forces who steal Syrian land and oil) out of Syria since Turkey is a powerful regional player in Syrian war
But that still doesn't give Turkey a right to illegally build military bases in Syria or attack Syrian forces.
Erdogan also has a lot of Syrian blood on his hands. He is partly responsible for Syria's current situation.
But as long as he doesn't do anymore damage to Syria, I guess I got no problem with him right now.
After Erdogan became critical of Western countries and joined Russia's side, he stopped attacking Syrian forces
But sooner or later, Erdogan will pay for his crimes against humanity.
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Say whatever the fuck you want about Duterte. The fact still stands that he won the election (by a landslide too) fair and square. He didn't want to run at first but people urged him, and by campaign period, he's said a lot of shit like cursing at the Pope, that infamous rape joke and of course the bloody war on drugs. And guess what, people still voted for him and he won. It's democracy at work and people wanted this. So fuck off, turn your attention to Nork Korea instead.
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Is it really hard for people to understand what would happen if he protected his son from the own law he has created?

Humanity is not divided up between good and evil. They're social concepts, and they're more than flawed enough not to be able to apply to any individual on any particular basis. You can think of him as evil, but a whole lot of people hoped that he'd become leader, and if you can understand that evil is just a concept, then perhaps you can understand that those people's situations must have been quite desperate.

Essentially, there's a lot of judging going around from people who don't know shit. People tucked away in their blankets with relatively perfect lives, looking out at the world, telling them how evil they are, when their entire way of life is different as a necessity to survival. Then you tell them "why don't you be like us". They try to be like you and you push them back every step of the way.

Humans kill to survive. In our world, we've relegated killing to butchers, so they can streamline it to better provide for everyone. Vegans would have meat eaters killed, because of the "senseless murder" generated by omnivores, and yet those same people benefit from death all the same, ignoring the fact that their precious plants are alive as well.

If it's not one giving the label of senseless murder, then it's the other. Perhaps you don't fully understand the situation they have been dealt? Perhaps you don't fully realize the extent you'd go to in order to survive? Perhaps you don't realize how far you'd go to live a decent life?
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nice rationalization of killing your own kind there

btw my place here in this part of the philippines has a lot of drug users and every week you will hear arrest or deaths (usually deaths) of drug users but this people are usually poor people (its war against the poor and not drug war)

heck even innocent kids are getting killed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Kian_delos_Santos

if Duterte is serious about this drug problem he will go for the source which is China exporting drugs here in the Philippines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Bureau_of_Customs_drug_smuggling_scandal
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Say whatever the fuck you want about Duterte. The fact still stands that he won the election (by a landslide too) fair and square. He didn't want to run at first but people urged him, and by campaign period, he's said a lot of shit like cursing at the Pope, that infamous rape joke and of course the bloody war on drugs. And guess what, people still voted for him and he won. It's democracy at work and people wanted this. So fuck off, turn your attention to Nork Korea instead.
"Elected leaders can do literally anything and no one can criticize the legitimacy of their actions" is a very weird/naïve/disturbing conception of democracy.
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yhunata said:
At least he's not a hypocrite.

Have to agree with you on this one
Bobby2Hands said:
yhunata said:
At least he's not a hypocrite.

Yeah...he's just a murderer.
I'll take a hypocrite over a murderer any day of the week.
We are all hypocrites at times, but very few of us throw our political opponents put of a helicopter and then brag about it.

The opposite for me. You can trust a murderer to murder, but you can't trust a hypocrite
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ThRippJck said:
yhunata said:
At least he's not a hypocrite.

Have to agree with you on this one
Bobby2Hands said:

Yeah...he's just a murderer.
I'll take a hypocrite over a murderer any day of the week.
We are all hypocrites at times, but very few of us throw our political opponents put of a helicopter and then brag about it.

The opposite for me. You can trust a murderer to murder, but you can't trust a hypocrite

You know there's a reason murder is illegal but being a hypocrite isn't.
Because one is far worse than the other.

Would you rather someone act hypocritical towards you or would you rather get murdered?
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I think hypocrisy is an inherent evil, and to some extent, his dedication to the cause and piety is not something I see a great deal of.

Think about it, when is being a hypocrite ever ideal as a trait? At least you are consistent, I will give you that.
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Josh said:
PrimeX said:
Say whatever the fuck you want about Duterte. The fact still stands that he won the election (by a landslide too) fair and square. He didn't want to run at first but people urged him, and by campaign period, he's said a lot of shit like cursing at the Pope, that infamous rape joke and of course the bloody war on drugs. And guess what, people still voted for him and he won. It's democracy at work and people wanted this. So fuck off, turn your attention to Nork Korea instead.
"Elected leaders can do literally anything and no one can criticize the legitimacy of their actions" is a very weird/naïve/disturbing conception of democracy.


Elected leaders aren't above criticism that should be criticized if they fuck up, especially if they fuck up this badly.


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I think hypocrisy is an inherent evil

I think murder is an inherent evil

PeripheralVision said:
Think about it, when is being a hypocrite ever ideal as a trait?

I would say being a murderer is a far worse trait.
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Bobby2Hands said:
PeripheralVision said:
I think hypocrisy is an inherent evil

I think murder is an inherent evil

PeripheralVision said:
Think about it, when is being a hypocrite ever ideal as a trait?

I would say being a murderer is a far worse trait.


Indeed, by definition of both. I wasn't contesting murder versus hypocrisy. To me, by definition, they are both wrong. I would have discussed how the taking of a life is not necessarily murder, but I believe we both get the idea.

At the very least, being a murder and a hypocrite would be far worst than either of the two alone. I do feel some respect for those willing those to equally apply everything, in the same manner than misanthropes do not bother me as much as racist or sexist people.

I am merely recognizing a trait that is rarely seen, with the murder being a rather extreme example of dedication, but still.

Murder is defined as an unjustified, legally or perhaps morally, taking of a life. We specifically define murder as such to sift it out from possible killings which may be justified. A taking of a life is still taking of a life, but we recognize the idea of just and unjust cause.

Hypocrisy is both an inherent violation of the code one states they abide by, nor is it embellished as a virtue in any culture I have seen. This is depending on what is deemed hypocritical or inconsistent.
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Hopefully someone pulls a coup d'état on Duterte. I'm not sure who would do it though. He isn't same enough to rain with diplomacy.


I hate to say this but if someone pulls a coup, then our country will be doomed as fuck, corruption will RISE AGAIN. I'll rather have a president who shows his true character and does not afraid to show his bad side than a president who only shows his/her good side most of the time but in reality he/she is stealing money from the public slowly but surely.

Hoppy said:
I'm not surprised, the man is a nutjob with no empathy.

Source

He's going end up being half as bad as Kim Jung Un soon. A normal political would let their family member be imprisoned for a crime instead of killed.


It's western journalism. There is no such thing as an unbiased news these days. Duterte's just bluffing and we know it.

NudeBear said:
Hard to feel sorry for the country, idiotic populations choose idiotic leaders.


Some of us are not idiots. True that there are many idiots in our country but I am glad that I am not one of them

yhunata said:
At least he's not a hypocrite.


Most of our politicians are hypocrites. Even some of Duterte's allies are hypocrites and we know it. In the end, Duterte is not a hypocrite and we are proud to have him as our president

NudeBear said:
So if you don't like US foreign policy, you automatically have to like every single tyrant that Westerners disapprove of? Is that how it works? Yes god bless the man that enjoys killing his own people.

Fucking lunatic.


Enjoys killing his own people?? Look, he declared war on drugs since day 1 of his presidency. He orders all the law enforcement to arrest drug personalities. If they resist and threaten the life of an law enforcer, then he orders them to shoot them. SADLY, THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNISTIC PATHOGENS LIKE STUPID COPS, VIGILANTES AND EVEN DRUG SYNDICATES WHO MINGLE (I think that's the word) WITH OUR PRESIDENT'S WAR ON DRUGS AND THEY KILL SOME INNOCENT CIVILIANS AND THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE EVEN ABUSIVE IN THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES.....SO ARE YOU TELLING ME IT IS THE PRESIDENT'S FAULT? Sure he is to blame but deep in our hearts, he's doing a good job so deal with it
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Most of our politicians are hypocrites. Even some of Duterte's allies are hypocrites and we know it. In the end, Duterte is not a hypocrite and we are proud to have him as our president

So you are proud of having a self confessed murderer as a president?
Jesus fucking Christ, has the world gone mad?
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Bobby2Hands said:
AA5x4 said:
Most of our politicians are hypocrites. Even some of Duterte's allies are hypocrites and we know it. In the end, Duterte is not a hypocrite and we are proud to have him as our president

So you are proud of having a self confessed murderer as a president?
Jesus fucking Christ, has the world gone mad?


You cannot fight drug addicts and criminals by being nice, it is bullshit nowadays....you have to be evil to fight evil. And btw the world has gone mad and it will continue until we all perish
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Clebardman said:
Swirly's obsession for mass murderers is kinda troubling. Do you guys think he sends love letters to jailed serial killers too?

assuming that he'd actually put forth the effort to do so instead of just worshiping them on the internet
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NudeBear said:
Clebardman said:
Swirly's obsession for mass murderers is kinda troubling. Do you guys think he sends love letters to jailed serial killers too?


It's just his mentally unstable Western hatred that makes him support lunatic leaders. I mean damn, we're not that bad LOL
Yeah basically, I dont know how you can somehow justify hatred of America and many western world powers while holding a man on a pedestal who is literally gloating about genociding he full well is carrying out, took being called hitler as a compliment, raped people and gloats about wanting to rape others, and says children and innocents getting caught up in the literal crossfire is just collateral not to worry about.

then again we are talking about a guy who was also trying to play off any bad news out of NK as american propoganda.

AA5x4 said:
Bobby2Hands said:

So you are proud of having a self confessed murderer as a president?
Jesus fucking Christ, has the world gone mad?


You cannot fight drug addicts and criminals by being nice, it is bullshit nowadays....you have to be evil to fight evil. And btw the world has gone mad and it will continue until we all perish
Meanwhile multiple countries and states that have legalized illegal narcotics have seen dramatic decreases in crime all around cause gangs lose their main source of income with a massive boost to the economy depending on how much they tax. But yeah no spend countless millions and lives of both officers and civilians to reach a dramatically worse outcome with loads of innocents caught in the crossfire, but as duerte says they are just collateral so who cares lives arent that important.
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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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I mean, killing the drug trade (literally) is a huge part of his running platform. He kinda has to.
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AA5x4 said:
Bobby2Hands said:

So you are proud of having a self confessed murderer as a president?
Jesus fucking Christ, has the world gone mad?


You cannot fight drug addicts and criminals by being nice, it is bullshit nowadays....you have to be evil to fight evil. And btw the world has gone mad and it will continue until we all perish

ok, so I can see you have clearly never actually known any drug dealers/users.
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Hoppy said:
He's going end up being half as bad as Kim Jung Un soon. A normal political would let their family member be imprisoned for a crime instead of killed.
Kim Jung Un is a tyrant who forces his own populace to worship him as a God and subjects them to slavery. Duterte is cleaning up criminal scum who are harmful to society. High re-offending statistics, in my country at least already shows that criminal rehabilitation fails the vast majority of the time. This is what they need. Duterte and Kim Jong Un are not even comparable.

This is a good thing. He is setting an example for his nation that even if the son of a president will not go unpunished for his wrongdoings, it's a powerful message to his people.

Hardly surprising that so much of that west dislikes him though, he is establishing a close relationship with China, and pushing America away.

Bobby2Hands said:
so I can see you have clearly never actually known any drug dealers/users.

I have met several, and none of them would be missed. Users destroy their own lives and hurt their families. The worst were the ones who can't afford to fund their drug habits and turned to burglary to do so. Dealers consciously contribute to destroying the lives of everyone around them, they are literally nothing more than a liability to society.
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AA5x4 said:
Bobby2Hands said:

So you are proud of having a self confessed murderer as a president?
Jesus fucking Christ, has the world gone mad?


You cannot fight drug addicts and criminals by being nice, it is bullshit nowadays....you have to be evil to fight evil. And btw the world has gone mad and it will continue until we all perish


There's being tough on drug crime then there's crimes against humanity, Duterte is doing the latter.


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Bobby2Hands said:
AA5x4 said:


You cannot fight drug addicts and criminals by being nice, it is bullshit nowadays....you have to be evil to fight evil. And btw the world has gone mad and it will continue until we all perish

ok, so I can see you have clearly never actually known any drug dealers/users.


As a matter of fact I, personally do know 2 people who are into illegal drug trade. One is in prison, he's smart for he didn't fight back the police. The other is six feet below the ground because he is an idiot for not giving himself up to the cops.
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Hoppy said:
AA5x4 said:


You cannot fight drug addicts and criminals by being nice, it is bullshit nowadays....you have to be evil to fight evil. And btw the world has gone mad and it will continue until we all perish


There's being tough on drug crime then there's crimes against humanity, Duterte is doing the latter.


Maybe you haven't realized this but there are some opportunistic scumbags who mingle with Duterte's war on drugs like drug syndicates and dirty cops and cold blooded vigilantes. You should know by now.
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AA5x4 said:
Bobby2Hands said:

ok, so I can see you have clearly never actually known any drug dealers/users.


As a matter of fact I, personally do know 2 people who are into illegal drug trade. One is in prison, he's smart for he didn't fight back the police. The other is six feet below the ground because he is an idiot for not giving himself up to the cops.

Well I have known well over 200 hundred dealers/users. Only one of those ever went to prison and zero have died. The vast majority are just regular folks like you and me. They aren't some evil money hungry gansters who push drugs on people or hopeless addicts. They are largely people who sit around in their house and don't bother anyone. The idea that they should deserve death for selling/using a product that people want is absolutely ludicrous.
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Have to agree with you on this one

The opposite for me. You can trust a murderer to murder, but you can't trust a hypocrite

You know there's a reason murder is illegal but being a hypocrite isn't.
Because one is far worse than the other.

Would you rather someone act hypocritical towards you or would you rather get murdered?

And you know this isn't anybody but a leader of a nation right? A leader who has given harsh punishments to hundreds of thousands of people. So imagine the severity of the issue when he uses his power to shield his son from the very crime that he is putting so much people to death for. It's not the same shit as some random asshole being a hypocrite.

If he does this he will lose all credibility as a leader. On the other hand if his son is found guilty and killed, while it is frightening, he is applying the law fairly, and his credibility and respect will go up, as weird as that sounds.

Bobby2Hands said:
AA5x4 said:


As a matter of fact I, personally do know 2 people who are into illegal drug trade. One is in prison, he's smart for he didn't fight back the police. The other is six feet below the ground because he is an idiot for not giving himself up to the cops.

Well I have known well over 200 hundred dealers/users. Only one of those ever went to prison and zero have died. The vast majority are just regular folks like you and me. They aren't some evil money hungry gansters who push drugs on people or hopeless addicts. They are largely people who sit around in their house and don't bother anyone. The idea that they should deserve death for selling/using a product that people want is absolutely ludicrous.

Lol, you must have it quite nice, explains alot
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AA5x4 said:
Hoppy said:


There's being tough on drug crime then there's crimes against humanity, Duterte is doing the latter.


Maybe you haven't realized this but there are some opportunistic scumbags who mingle with Duterte's war on drugs like drug syndicates and dirty cops and cold blooded vigilantes. You should know by now.


He should've realized this and not go the route of killing addicts and traffickers and instead imposed harsher prison sentences instead. It starts with Duterte himself, he should've thought this through.


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Bobby2Hands said:
AA5x4 said:


As a matter of fact I, personally do know 2 people who are into illegal drug trade. One is in prison, he's smart for he didn't fight back the police. The other is six feet below the ground because he is an idiot for not giving himself up to the cops.

Well I have known well over 200 hundred dealers/users. Only one of those ever went to prison and zero have died. The vast majority are just regular folks like you and me. They aren't some evil money hungry gansters who push drugs on people or hopeless addicts. They are largely people who sit around in their house and don't bother anyone. The idea that they should deserve death for selling/using a product that people want is absolutely ludicrous.


I don't know about the illegal drugs that are notorious in your country. In our country, Methamphetamine HCl (local name: Shabu) is the most notorious. There are idiots who sell shabu and die because they fight cops and there are some who go to prison and there are some who are very genius and continue to evade the cops. Bottomline is that, they deserve death because they promote death/destruction by selling shabu.

Goodbye for now, it's 1 AM here. Have a nice day :)


Hoppy said:
AA5x4 said:


Maybe you haven't realized this but there are some opportunistic scumbags who mingle with Duterte's war on drugs like drug syndicates and dirty cops and cold blooded vigilantes. You should know by now.


He should've realized this and not go the route of killing addicts and traffickers and instead imposed harsher prison sentences instead. It starts with Duterte himself, he should've thought this through.


Oh, I forgot to mention this to you. Even if an addict or seller goes to prison, he/she can still taste or sell drugs because drugs are even rampant in some prisons due to drug personalities paying large amounts of money to some jailguards and even policemen........and harsher prison sentences mean nothing to some. They are stupid people who NEVER LEARN

Goodbye for now :)
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nice rationalization of killing your own kind there
This sounds like it's probably sarcastic. It makes sense to instinctively be against killing your own kind, but as humans are a thinking animal, it is rather short sighted to stop there.

I find it blatantly irrational to pretend that wars don't exist, or that terrorists don't need to be stopped. Killing is a means of self preservation. It always has been, and it always will be, since the very beginning of life, until there is no more life.

As the first bacteria appeared and began to gnaw away at other living organisms and minerals, so to do we now destroy in order to sustain ourselves and grow. Unless you find a way to sustain us purely on photosynthesis, this pattern isn't going to stop any time soon.

As similar life forms began to compete for food, so began the cycle of murder, not to eat the opposing life form, but to ensure survival through the lack of competition. Now there are humans in the world who would kill other humans for a variety of reasons, and often enough if we hope to survive against those people we have to kill them first.


In this particular instance, the problem was with drug dealers recklessly cultivating drug addicts, who all left the legal work force, and created an extremely unsafe environment for the rest of the countries citizens. If you throw them in prison you have to keep them there forever. If you keep them there forever then everyone is paying taxes they can't afford, and the country will go bankrupt borrowing money from other countries just in order to survive.


So what other recourse did they have to create a tolerable living environment?


I think everyone wants to live in our fantasy land of peace prosperity. Everyone wants a leader that promotes commonplace decency. Everyone wants it, but some countries are so far from it that it's a joke. Common citizens suffer day in and day out to problems they can't control. The people voted, and they voted for what they felt was the best option to move the country. They voted for a violent man. In all likelihood, a violent man is exactly what they need to survive.
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Yeah but he's killed many over drug charges, and his family should be no exception from his policies. If it's true, his son deserves the punishment anyone elses don got; simply being "Duterte's Son" is no exception to what other families have gone through.
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