| Men like lesbos, females like fagg's. There is no inginery behind it, just human nature.... Do we find it hot because is kind of a taboo... maybe, but is no taboo anymore in the West... So then why? Well probably because we like the opposite sex too much. For example: - Men like women... If a woman is like a chocolate, then Lesbians are like two chocolates. Is the same for women who are into gay stuff... I am not sure if they watch gay porn too usually,but I gess that seeing two hot guys hooking up give them the same sot of feeling men get from seeing two hot women doing that. There is no reason to theorize too much, and just accept the reality that men and females are very similar when it comes to sexuality... What I mean is that we are equally pervert, but females are better at hiding it. |
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Swagernator said: Dude i dont even know that term "Fudanshi" exist in the first place xD i just learn about its existence lol It does exist xD But I guess than yes... it's not known as much as fujoshis x) |
Like Shoe0nhead so eloquently puts it What manga is that?Jonouchi-Katsuya said: Lol, I don't think that has happened to me because I've never tried living without it for a longer period of time (or maybe it has but it was such a long time ago that I don't remember it. I also got into yaoi at the age of 12). However, I have noticed that I seem to consume more yaoi during periods of stress as a means to calm myself down.Going to say something else: Got into yaoi at 12. I tried to live without it for a while. Guess what? My sex drive full on went away. Yeah I think the characters on screen for Anime will be hot for hentai or ecchi or Yuri. :/ But Without yaoi? I literally seem to stop having actual sex or I have to watch way more ecchi and hentai for same effect. But without this imput, I just don't even have desire at all... With it, I desire men and women. I didn't even realize I needed yaoi that much... :( |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Comic_Sans said: Like Shoe0nhead so eloquently puts it What manga is that?Jonouchi-Katsuya said: Lol, I don't think that has happened to me because I've never tried living without it for a longer period of time (or maybe it has but it was such a long time ago that I don't remember it. I also got into yaoi at the age of 12). However, I have noticed that I seem to consume more yaoi during periods of stress as a means to calm myself down.Going to say something else: Got into yaoi at 12. I tried to live without it for a while. Guess what? My sex drive full on went away. Yeah I think the characters on screen for Anime will be hot for hentai or ecchi or Yuri. :/ But Without yaoi? I literally seem to stop having actual sex or I have to watch way more ecchi and hentai for same effect. But without this imput, I just don't even have desire at all... With it, I desire men and women. I didn't even realize I needed yaoi that much... :( Yeah. I donno. I stopped reading it a couple of times. Stopped watching the anime (mostly do to running out? and then not moving on to manga)... and like... what ended up happening was just a total loss of all sex drive. I don't know why I ended up yaoi-sexual. I went without it for a long period of time before... I went years trying to go mostly without it? And honestly people "raising awareness" that the porn I like is wrong is just unhelpful. I mean they are drawn. Not real people. I fully know the difference. But I admit, I like it when real guys kiss too. It is incredibly hot. When I was young and couldn't find yaoi so easily, I would just stare at guys kissing in magazines (yes there were magazines for it). And I would seriously fantasize about being able to turn into a boy just for sexual things. Which seems fucking stupid really. But that is how bad it gets. And like I have asked my husband to treat me like a boy if you will. And it is incredibly hot and I find him so intoxicating when he does treat me like a boy. I am so glad my husband is bisexual. If he weren't he might have trouble. XD The only other boyfriend I had, we were into Yugioh cards... and yes for me it was in that way... and dueling was sexy as fuck. But yeah I am a total weirdo. The stuff I was into when I was 12... and winning was arousing and so were gay guys and goth girls. And that is about it... I think it really has to do with the fact that I was starting to read it right when I hit puberty, and it was the first thing that turned me on. Goth girls and card games were secondary. And the repetition of card games and guys making out made it pretty strong. |
Energetic-NovaJul 25, 2017 11:33 AM
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| @Jonouchi-Katsuya I see what you mean, although turning into a guy for sexual things isn't a frequent fantasy of mine. However, I can totally relate to your "teen self discovering yaoi situation" (though I was 13, not 12. My mistake), I discovered yaoi (or rather M x M, as I began my fujoshit journey by stumbling upon 2D X Murdoc fanfics but I didn't get into anime until a year or so later) during an especially harsh period in my life when my hormones had also been going crazy for a longer while but I didn't know what to do with them because I found myself repulsed by real life pornography and I didn't want to talk with anybody about it because I felt ashamed of myself for feeling that way at the time. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Comic_Sans said: @Jonouchi-Katsuya I see what you mean, although turning into a guy for sexual things isn't a frequent fantasy of mine. However, I can totally relate to your "teen self discovering yaoi situation" (though I was 13, not 12. My mistake), I discovered yaoi (or rather M x M, as I began my fujoshit journey by stumbling upon 2D X Murdoc fanfics but I didn't get into anime until a year or so later) during an especially harsh period in my life when my hormones had also been going crazy for a longer while but I didn't know what to do with them because I found myself repulsed by real life pornography and I didn't want to talk with anybody about it because I felt ashamed of myself for feeling that way at the time. Yes, at the time, I would feel repulsed by my friends even talking about their sex dreams. I totally relate to this.I noticed many yaoi girls are much the same. Late bloomer feelings. And like a desire to feel what their friends felt... but also a hiding their eyes uke like innocence. Which might be why we like the characters that force the sexual stuff a bit(at that age, not always later)... it is a lot like or friends were at the time ne? And the fantasy of actually enjoying it would have been nice... |
Energetic-NovaJul 26, 2017 1:46 AM
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Jonouchi-Katsuya said: Ah, no, me being a late bloomer was not the reason why I felt ashamed. In my case it was quite the opposite, I was one of the earliest bloomers in my class and people there seldom talked openly about sex and when they did they were being really immature about it. The only time the topic ever came up was when one of the boys groped some of the girls for fun or when someone – mostly the boys – was making immature sex jokes/saying dirty phrases, all while the girls were giggling along. After a while I came to associate sex with immature and repulsive people. So I would say the feelings of disgust I possessed at the time stemed from "too much" maturity rather than a lack thereof.Yes, at the time, I would feel repulsed by my friends even talking about their sex dreams. I totally relate to this.I noticed many yaoi girls are much the same. Late bloomer feelings. And like a desire to feel what their friends felt... but also a hiding their eyes uke like innocence. Which might be why we like the characters that force the sexual stuff a bit(at that age, not always later)... it is a lot like or friends were at the time ne? And the fantasy of actually enjoying it would have been nice... Anyway, I think this is kind of O/T so maybe we could continue discussing this in the profile comments instead |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| People will be asking this question until doomsday, and I will always be giving the same answer. BECAUSE 2 BOYS ARE BETTER THAN ONE! This is better than this |
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Maneki-Mew said: Is there a term, which describes guys or (straight) women, who are into Yuri? Just being curious. I've heard some girls calling themselves "yuriko", but never heard of a term for guys. |
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Aetherzel said: With head tilted, the huge eyes, the cute smile and cute pose 'anime style'. I was like 'Who the f*ck are you?!'. Till then they were still precious to my heart, so seeing the authors letting anyone (sorry but that's the only word I think fits) 'whoring' them that way, it was too much. After all this was how women would end being treated, I thought. Do you mean the typical Shoujo style aka Sailor Moon or Jeanne? I never liked that myself, but especially children like bright colors (and cute eyes are cute, that's an psychological phenomenon) and those are children anime. There is nothing more behind it. XD If you speak of Disney princesses, it's the same. Most anime MCs are attractive and so are other characters. Do you wanted to say that? ^^" T_T... I hate my english. No it's not what I wanted to say. What I meant is that:  Same copy-pasted smile, head tilt etc. With shojo heroines, it works because a lot are kids or still have the innocence of a kid, that's even the main reason for all the love-related 'misunderstandings'. But these women are adults, and the recent ones are 'strong willed' on top of all. They had charisma. To see them reduced to 'that' everywhere and without even a hint of context is a real shame. Thank God they didn't subject the Princes to the same treatment. Or did they? Don't tell me, I don't want to know. |
lequack said: Why do men like girl on girl action? Its for that same reason. Yeah sure because CrustyRolls said: People will be asking this question until doomsday, and I will always be giving the same answer. BECAUSE 2 BOYS ARE BETTER THAN ONE! This is better than this Except the fact both of them are not boys anymore if we go by yaoi logic, the way they both squeal, they are underage tran sexual woman, who are flat chested, and one happens to be having a dick, lmao XD |
Aetherzel said: Do you mean the typical Shoujo style aka Sailor Moon or Jeanne? I never liked that myself, but especially children like bright colors (and cute eyes are cute, that's an psychological phenomenon) and those are children anime. There is nothing more behind it. XD If you speak of Disney princesses, it's the same. Most anime MCs are attractive and so are other characters. Do you wanted to say that? ^^" T_T... I hate my english. No it's not what I wanted to say. What I meant is that: Same copy-pasted smile, head tilt etc. With shojo heroines, it works because a lot are kids or still have the innocence of a kid, that's even the main reason for all the love-related 'misunderstandings'. But these women are adults, and the recent ones are 'strong willed' on top of all. They had charisma. To see them reduced to 'that' everywhere and without even a hint of context is a real shame. Thank God they didn't subject the Princes to the same treatment. Or did they? Don't tell me, I don't want to know. I see lot of bias in this one, I mean it is not like men created for designed the stories, I mean guys barely care about all Disney Princess, and yes, prince did also recieve same treatment, how do you think prince charming logic works? You can just blame it on female psychology in general, off an example, every male character in the Disney Princess movies, nearly looks same, seriously, some of them look like they are same guy, I think it might be the artstyle, or that I like to believe now. The reason behind the whole cute smile and other things is because normally woman can self insert the future in a young age, it was not very complicated, it is normal for a girl to wish that sort of think, lot of girls look upto to Princess and it fuels a desire that can't be achieved in real life and to make it even much more simple, lot of young girls want it all for granted, so of early Disney shows had story where the man and woman switched place, and the girl was a woman who had to live like alladin on the streets, it just won't sell as much in the young girls, well it just will be attracting a male audience, the popularity will not be same as it was all with female audience, but yes it will be popular sure. |
Deserve said: lequack said: Why do men like girl on girl action? Its for that same reason. Yeah sure because CrustyRolls said: People will be asking this question until doomsday, and I will always be giving the same answer. BECAUSE 2 BOYS ARE BETTER THAN ONE! This is better than this Except the fact both of them are not boys anymore if we go by yaoi logic, the way they both squeal, they are underage tran sexual woman, who are flat chested, and one happens to be having a dick, lmao XD If they are squealing and moaning like a girl, then you are watching the wrong yaoi. I only read stuff with non-girly ukes. |
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Deserve said: lequack said: Why do men like girl on girl action? Its for that same reason. Yeah sure because CrustyRolls said: People will be asking this question until doomsday, and I will always be giving the same answer. BECAUSE 2 BOYS ARE BETTER THAN ONE! This is better than this Except the fact both of them are not boys anymore if we go by yaoi logic, the way they both squeal, they are underage tran sexual woman, who are flat chested, and one happens to be having a dick, lmao XD Your obsession with yaoi, trans and fujoshi threads that causes you to bump old threads and go into a reply spread is very curious. I wonder what's the deal? |
| [quote] Aetherzel said: What I meant is that: Same copy-pasted smile, head tilt etc. With shojo heroines, it works because a lot are kids or still have the innocence of a kid, that's even the main reason for all the love-related 'misunderstandings'. But these women are adults, and the recent ones are 'strong willed' on top of all. They had charisma. To see them reduced to 'that' everywhere and without even a hint of context is a real shame. Thank God they didn't subject the Princes to the same treatment. Or did they? Don't tell me, I don't want to know. Deserve said: I see lot of bias in this one, I mean it is not like men created for designed the stories, I mean guys barely care about all Disney Princess, and yes, prince did also recieve same treatment, how do you think prince charming logic works? You can just blame it on female psychology in general, off an example, every male character in the Disney Princess movies, nearly looks same, seriously, some of them look like they are same guy, I think it might be the artstyle, or that I like to believe now. The reason behind the whole cute smile and other things is because normally woman can self insert the future in a young age, it was not very complicated, it is normal for a girl to wish that sort of think, lot of girls look upto to Princess and it fuels a desire that can't be achieved in real life and to make it even much more simple, lot of young girls want it all for granted, so of early Disney shows had story where the man and woman switched place, and the girl was a woman who had to live like alladin on the streets, it just won't sell as much in the young girls, well it just will be attracting a male audience, the popularity will not be same as it was all with female audience, but yes it will be popular sure. You're going to pretend that the Princes and Princesses are treated as equals, in these Disneys? Remind me one thing: Who is always defenseless, caught or poisoned, or nearly assassinated? And who saves who? Who would be dead without HIM coming to save her all the time? Then next you thought the story was over and she was with her Prince, she had become a Queen in the future etc. Well, SORRY. Now she's there on every candy wrapping making a sexy pose with ingenuous face like she's in front of the Jury in a damn Campus Queen Contest! God, the next characters I draw getting it in the ass are the Princes. |
Deserve said: lequack said: Why do men like girl on girl action? Its for that same reason. Yeah sure because CrustyRolls said: People will be asking this question until doomsday, and I will always be giving the same answer. BECAUSE 2 BOYS ARE BETTER THAN ONE! This is better than this Except the fact both of them are not boys anymore if we go by yaoi logic, the way they both squeal, they are underage tran sexual woman, who are flat chested, and one happens to be having a dick, lmao XD Same shit can be said about the stuff guys watch. I have yet to meet a girl in real life who acts the way girls in hentai/ecchi shows act. They don't act like people, they act like retards with some serious mental problems. Take your typical tsundere character for example - have you ever met a girl who beats the shit out of you irl for no reason whatsoever? The point I am trying to make is that anime is fantasy. Stop trying to take it seriously. It is the idea of 2 males banging that females find appealing and who are we to judge? People like lolicon characters in anime but that doesn't mean they would go hump a random kid in the streets in real life. |
| Why do people watch Boku no Pico? Same reason ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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| Because dick. Please use MLA citation when you use this quote in your thesis. |
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| Personally, i don't like yaoi, but i like Shoujo Ai. Aoi Hana and Candy Boy is my favorite anime. |
| Cause they are openminded and most importantly HORNY girls. lol |
Dotanuki said: Liking yaoi/shounen-ai does NOT make one instantly open-minded. For example, there are some Malaysian fujoshi who love yaoi but hate real gay people because homosexuality goes against Islam.Cause they are openminded and most importantly HORNY girls. lol |
mimiiria said: Dotanuki said: Liking yaoi/shounen-ai does NOT make one instantly open-minded. For example, there are some Malaysian fujoshi who love yaoi but hate real gay people because homosexuality goes against Islam.Cause they are openminded and most importantly HORNY girls. lol That's messed up cause yaoi and shounen-ai are even if fictional, never the less about homosexualty. Such religious people suppose to hate yaoi and shounen-ai without making seperation from the realty cause they are both homosexual. |
| [quote=Aetherzel] Aetherzel said: What I meant is that: Same copy-pasted smile, head tilt etc. With shojo heroines, it works because a lot are kids or still have the innocence of a kid, that's even the main reason for all the love-related 'misunderstandings'. But these women are adults, and the recent ones are 'strong willed' on top of all. They had charisma. To see them reduced to 'that' everywhere and without even a hint of context is a real shame. Thank God they didn't subject the Princes to the same treatment. Or did they? Don't tell me, I don't want to know. Deserve said: I see lot of bias in this one, I mean it is not like men created for designed the stories, I mean guys barely care about all Disney Princess, and yes, prince did also recieve same treatment, how do you think prince charming logic works? You can just blame it on female psychology in general, off an example, every male character in the Disney Princess movies, nearly looks same, seriously, some of them look like they are same guy, I think it might be the artstyle, or that I like to believe now. The reason behind the whole cute smile and other things is because normally woman can self insert the future in a young age, it was not very complicated, it is normal for a girl to wish that sort of think, lot of girls look upto to Princess and it fuels a desire that can't be achieved in real life and to make it even much more simple, lot of young girls want it all for granted, so of early Disney shows had story where the man and woman switched place, and the girl was a woman who had to live like alladin on the streets, it just won't sell as much in the young girls, well it just will be attracting a male audience, the popularity will not be same as it was all with female audience, but yes it will be popular sure. You're going to pretend that the Princes and Princesses are treated as equals, in these Disneys? Remind me one thing: Who is always defenseless, caught or poisoned, or nearly assassinated? And who saves who? Who would be dead without HIM coming to save her all the time? Then next you thought the story was over and she was with her Prince, she had become a Queen in the future etc. Well, SORRY. Now she's there on every candy wrapping making a sexy pose with ingenuous face like she's in front of the Jury in a damn Campus Queen Contest! God, the next characters I draw getting it in the ass are the Princes. You are misreading my comment, what I am trying to state is a good mass of woman wish to have things done for her, it is very normal behaviour for any woman, keep in mind Disney Princess has appealed girls over boys, while the male anime such as Shounen tend to make badass females usually, it is just the fact that a lot of people feel like it is bad to be helped or rescued ever since 2010 compared to before that, it has rather to do with the social mentality of what is good and what is not, for an example the story that Disney made were done so they can be as appealing as possible to the girls, my little mermaid, the beauty and beast, in all cases the story is shown in a pov of the girl, this was not a pushed agenda or quite about Equality as the guy and girl are naturally not really same, the reason why Disney sugar coats the princess being rescued is because the real stories are much more dark to be good to the girls, hence they are shown what most of them wish to see. For an instance a normal girl marrying a prince, is something you will get to hear from most kinder garden girls who are probably as honest as they can be about their feelings, (I mean why not, you get to rule a kingdom to be fair) but on other hand the idea of a beautiful queen who is excellent fighter and also very popular with men, marries an average guy? You can see that now not being so popular with most female audience to be fair about it yes? But this changes as audience grows up, an adult audience can watch characters other than the one they wish to be ideal dream for themself, it's also a reason why most young boys nearly like at Shoujo but grown men don't quite bother with it, (and to be fair most men still can't tolerate k-drama but still, give us some credit we grew up so much) and similarly an adult woman can enjoy shonen although the feeling is not necessarily the same, you see most boys trying to do a kamehameha as a kid than you see a girl doing it (personally I think it's because girls are smarter as kids, they mature fast) but those are how the bother genders are, it does not necessarily has to do with one being to say "better" than other like most girls think, it's rather about what thing one is comfortable with doing, you did mention modern Disney stories show a list charismatic female character, and that is made so it can appeal to the adult audience who wish to see something different, I guess Elsa is a very good example? but for good or bad, you still can not quite rival Frozen the same way girls squeal over Twilligh, I hope I was not too dude in this post. |
| [quote=Aetherzel message=51698752][quote] Aetherzel said: You're going to pretend that the Princes and Princesses are treated as equals, in these Disneys? Remind me one thing: Who is always defenseless, caught or poisoned, or nearly assassinated? And who saves who? Who would be dead without HIM coming to save her all the time? Then next you thought the story was over and she was with her Prince, she had become a Queen in the future etc. Well, SORRY. Now she's there on every candy wrapping making a sexy pose with ingenuous face like she's in front of the Jury in a damn Campus Queen Contest! God, the next characters I draw getting it in the ass are the Princes. Oh NO ! Not the princes... don't take your anger out of poor princes cause you don't like defenceless disney princesses lol All the poor princes tried to do was the right thing... lol now, they are gonna take it in the ass because of that lol I don't have anything against warrior women but i'm attracted to the defenceless, peaceful girls who can be voices of reason. I don't need a violant woman with anger issues in my life... lol |
| I'm a woman and I think yuri is way better than yaoi. Yaoi is honestly gross. |
Deserve said: Dotanuki said: That's messed up cause yaoi and shounen-ai are even if fictional, never the less about homosexualty. Such religious people suppose to hate yaoi and shounen-ai without making seperation from the realty cause they are both homosexual. I feel sort of bad saying this but, yaoi is quite homophobic in reality, a reason behind this is also because it is really made to look like the normal guy and girl pair you know, look at anime love stage, it's decent enough for a guy to watch, no seriously, it's one of few anime a guy can watch without being cringed, the anime is quite honest about the whole "this man is a man and that man is a woman xD" thing, and that is kinda like watching a love story about a guy and trap, the key factor is woman wish to see a love story but with no woman in it, so what do they do? They take two men, but two men are not same as a man and woman! So they make one of them border line female and THAT is what gets yaoi fans off, the core of story is to have no woman in the story, or it ignites a sense of jellousy or even disgust in some cases. So why do Fujoshi hate gay people? (Yes, Tumblr is not only Fujoshi grounds in the world, real gay people and Yaoi fans are not really all buddies) the answer is "why would any one want a guy to date a guy, over a girl like them when they are available" (I know it sounds a little dumb, but let's cut the poor yaoi fans some slack, fantasies are fantasies) now what is really dumb here is the idea of "boundless love" a love that surpasses gender, hence the idea that both of them are straight but love each other so much that they do become gay sometimes, yes this is the official thing among Japanese yaoi can and no fans, now last thing, since yaoi fans don't have much love for the real gay people, they freely abuse the flow of story by using any fetish like a healthy japanese, so rape is almost a casual thing in the story, it is so casual that about half of Yaoi fans don't even realise it's rape actually XD I have never read yaoi so i don't know but you seem knowlegable about it. It sounds weird for sure... Aspecially How come two ''straight'' guys loving eachother so much, so boundless and becoming gay... is not gay or if it's sometimes, how come it's not bisexual but they are considered straight ? lol It doesn't make sense... |
DotanukiJul 30, 2017 5:26 AM
Deserve said: Bernrika said: Your obsession with yaoi, trans and fujoshi threads that causes you to bump old threads and go into a reply spread is very curious. I wonder what's the deal? Please stop, you are creepy and your stalking tendency is unsettling, kindly go to sleep, for enternity, I have no idea their is even transvestite threads here, that side stop stalking me, dude like it's seriously disturbing on mal. Wut? I literally don't know who you are, I just found your obsession with gay sex hilarious since it makes you bump months old thread to rage against fujoshi using armchair psychology. kindly go to sleep, for enternity, Wew. |
Dotanuki said: Deserve said: I feel sort of bad saying this but, yaoi is quite homophobic in reality, a reason behind this is also because it is really made to look like the normal guy and girl pair you know, look at anime love stage, it's decent enough for a guy to watch, no seriously, it's one of few anime a guy can watch without being cringed, the anime is quite honest about the whole "this man is a man and that man is a woman xD" thing, and that is kinda like watching a love story about a guy and trap, the key factor is woman wish to see a love story but with no woman in it, so what do they do? They take two men, but two men are not same as a man and woman! So they make one of them border line female and THAT is what gets yaoi fans off, the core of story is to have no woman in the story, or it ignites a sense of jellousy or even disgust in some cases. So why do Fujoshi hate gay people? (Yes, Tumblr is not only Fujoshi grounds in the world, real gay people and Yaoi fans are not really all buddies) the answer is "why would any one want a guy to date a guy, over a girl like them when they are available" (I know it sounds a little dumb, but let's cut the poor yaoi fans some slack, fantasies are fantasies) now what is really dumb here is the idea of "boundless love" a love that surpasses gender, hence the idea that both of them are straight but love each other so much that they do become gay sometimes, yes this is the official thing among Japanese yaoi can and no fans, now last thing, since yaoi fans don't have much love for the real gay people, they freely abuse the flow of story by using any fetish like a healthy japanese, so rape is almost a casual thing in the story, it is so casual that about half of Yaoi fans don't even realise it's rape actually XD I have never read yaoi so i don't know but you seem knowlegable about it. It sounds weird for sure... Aspecially How come two ''straight'' guys loving eachother so much, so boundless and becoming gay... is not gay or if it's sometimes, how come it's not bisexual but they are considered straight ? lol It doesn't make sense... That is because he knows nothing about it. And also assumes the stories are not good and that we don't have our own preferences in story type. Like I know plenty who don't like Yakuza style stories. If any gay would do, you would think even yakuza stories would be sexy to them but nope. And yet, you talk to yakuza yaoi fanbase, and many don't like yaoi that feature novelists and find it tired and cliche (despite that they themselves like a thing which implies cliche). Some people like best friends together. Some people like Megane and Delinquents together. Some people desire age difference, father complex, brother complex, bondage- or you know what? No sex at all and just want something sweet and fluffy. Some people want tragic stuff or dramatic stuff. Some people want stuff that is hints political or is more political. And I have seen all of these requests. It is almost as if... it is just like Romance, ecchi, and hentai spaces? You know? Where people have what they like and dislike sexually about pairings. There are just a lot of different kinds of fan in the yaoi space. Best not to paint us all with the same brush. I don't know in what reality people would actually want anything like Killing Stalking to actually happen. ummm they wouldn't. And I know plenty of guys who like yaoi too. |
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Jonouchi-Katsuya said: Dotanuki said: I have never read yaoi so i don't know but you seem knowlegable about it. It sounds weird for sure... Aspecially How come two ''straight'' guys loving eachother so much, so boundless and becoming gay... is not gay or if it's sometimes, how come it's not bisexual but they are considered straight ? lol It doesn't make sense... That is because he knows nothing about it. And also assumes the stories are not good and that we don't have our own preferences in story type. Like I know plenty who don't like Yakuza style stories. If any gay would do, you would think even yakuza stories would be sexy to them but nope. And yet, you talk to yakuza yaoi fanbase, and many don't like yaoi that feature novelists and find it tired and cliche (despite that they themselves like a thing which implies cliche). Some people like best friends together. Some people like Megane and Delinquents together. Some people desire age difference, father complex, brother complex, bondage- or you know what? No sex at all and just want something sweet and fluffy. Some people want tragic stuff or dramatic stuff. Some people want stuff that is hints political or is more political. And I have seen all of these requests. It is almost as if... it is just like Romance, ecchi, and hentai spaces? You know? Where people have what they like and dislike sexually about pairings. There are just a lot of different kinds of fan in the yaoi space. Best not to paint us all with the same brush. I don't know in what reality people would actually want anything like Killing Stalking to actually happen. ummm they wouldn't. And I know plenty of guys who like yaoi too. There are yaois for all kinds of tastes huh... Ok. :D I acutally saw a manga with the subject of a straight guy who is into yaoi manga but i can't remember the name of the manga. I'm not into yaoi or shounen ai as a straight guy but hearing about that manga showed me that surprisingly there are straight guys who are into yaoi. |
Dotanuki said: Jonouchi-Katsuya said: That is because he knows nothing about it. And also assumes the stories are not good and that we don't have our own preferences in story type. Like I know plenty who don't like Yakuza style stories. If any gay would do, you would think even yakuza stories would be sexy to them but nope. And yet, you talk to yakuza yaoi fanbase, and many don't like yaoi that feature novelists and find it tired and cliche (despite that they themselves like a thing which implies cliche). Some people like best friends together. Some people like Megane and Delinquents together. Some people desire age difference, father complex, brother complex, bondage- or you know what? No sex at all and just want something sweet and fluffy. Some people want tragic stuff or dramatic stuff. Some people want stuff that is hints political or is more political. And I have seen all of these requests. It is almost as if... it is just like Romance, ecchi, and hentai spaces? You know? Where people have what they like and dislike sexually about pairings. There are just a lot of different kinds of fan in the yaoi space. Best not to paint us all with the same brush. I don't know in what reality people would actually want anything like Killing Stalking to actually happen. ummm they wouldn't. And I know plenty of guys who like yaoi too. There are yaois for all kinds of tastes huh... Ok. :D I acutally saw a manga with the subject of a straight guy who is into yaoi manga but i can't remember the name of the manga. I'm not into yaoi or shounen ai as a straight guy but hearing about that manga showed me that surprisingly there are straight guys who are into yaoi. Yes there are. And there are lesbians into it as well. It is fairly strange. But I welcome them. :) I don't mind that they are around. (there is a anime shorts series about it. But I didn't like it) But yeah the guys I know in fandom are pretty cool. My husband likes yaoi too. But likes totally opposite type of yaoi I do. XD We are fairly incompatible as far as taste. I try to explain that to my fujoshi friends who dream of finding a guy who is also into yaoi that kinda more imagine one of you is into yakuza yaoi and the other is into feminine guys. XD Like total opposites (yes my husband likes hyper feminine guys). I think the good part of being in a relationship where you both like yaoi though is you understand it. And you think it cute when the other one gets excited. Granted, my husband does the classic squeal and I don't. ^.^; Probably because the person I hung around with most in my yaoi formative time was not into the squealing culture and my husband was by himself reading. My husband full on likes Mpreg and such... I mean I have tried to read some of them. I do think it is an interesting scifi concept but.... it is kinda weird even for me. But a lot of people like it. I guess that is a neeto fantasy. I mean you got to think, it is still porn... And people have taste in Ecchi right? Like, not everyone is EcchiKing and is interested in all of it. (granted he is like my best friend and I adore him). And not everyone likes the same hentai either. And not everyone even likes the same thing in romance. And yaoi isn't all one thing. Just because it all features gay guys... it isn't all the same. Like for me, something like Killing Stalking is too hardcore. It involves a guy kidnapping another guy and sticking him in his basement... and yeah. It is not a nice story at all. And Junjo Romantica, as much as many people think it is sweet, including my husband who argues that the amount of force makes sense for him who has gone through conversion therapy and would need a more pushy sort- I kinda just get turned off by the internalized homophobia Misaki has and also the possessiveness and forcefulness of Usagi. And the fact they never seem to progress makes it more frustrating. Meanwhile, a manga like Twittering Birds Never Fly, while very much not vanilla, the goal is to have a healthy relationship for the main character who is at the moment a yakuza boss who sluts around as a power bottom. Totally in control but enjoys being dominated. Looks blissful from pain. But, there is so much drama going on around to do with the mafia, and his other connections. And the romance that does develop... definitely not your standard. The fact that it does take so long for the main pairing to really be together is just great to me. It builds well over time. And I love that it progresses and doesn't take major steps back. |
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Jonouchi-Katsuya said: Dotanuki said: There are yaois for all kinds of tastes huh... Ok. :D I acutally saw a manga with the subject of a straight guy who is into yaoi manga but i can't remember the name of the manga. I'm not into yaoi or shounen ai as a straight guy but hearing about that manga showed me that surprisingly there are straight guys who are into yaoi. Yes there are. And there are lesbians into it as well. It is fairly strange. But I welcome them. :) I don't mind that they are around. (there is a anime shorts series about it. But I didn't like it) But yeah the guys I know in fandom are pretty cool. My husband likes yaoi too. But likes totally opposite type of yaoi I do. XD We are fairly incompatible as far as taste. I try to explain that to my fujoshi friends who dream of finding a guy who is also into yaoi that kinda more imagine one of you is into yakuza yaoi and the other is into feminine guys. XD Like total opposites (yes my husband likes hyper feminine guys). I think the good part of being in a relationship where you both like yaoi though is you understand it. And you think it cute when the other one gets excited. Granted, my husband does the classic squeal and I don't. ^.^; Probably because the person I hung around with most in my yaoi formative time was not into the squealing culture and my husband was by himself reading. My husband full on likes Mpreg and such... I mean I have tried to read some of them. I do think it is an interesting scifi concept but.... it is kinda weird even for me. But a lot of people like it. I guess that is a neeto fantasy. I mean you got to think, it is still porn... And people have taste in Ecchi right? Like, not everyone is EcchiKing and is interested in all of it. (granted he is like my best friend and I adore him). And not everyone likes the same hentai either. And not everyone even likes the same thing in romance. And yaoi isn't all one thing. Just because it all features gay guys... it isn't all the same. Like for me, something like Killing Stalking is too hardcore. It involves a guy kidnapping another guy and sticking him in his basement... and yeah. It is not a nice story at all. And Junjo Romantica, as much as many people think it is sweet, including my husband who argues that the amount of force makes sense for him who has gone through conversion therapy and would need a more pushy sort- I kinda just get turned off by the internalized homophobia Misaki has and also the possessiveness and forcefulness of Usagi. And the fact they never seem to progress makes it more frustrating. Meanwhile, a manga like Twittering Birds Never Fly, while very much not vanilla, the goal is to have a healthy relationship for the main character who is at the moment a yakuza boss who sluts around as a power bottom. Totally in control but enjoys being dominated. Looks blissful from pain. But, there is so much drama going on around to do with the mafia, and his other connections. And the romance that does develop... definitely not your standard. The fact that it does take so long for the main pairing to really be together is just great to me. It builds well over time. And I love that it progresses and doesn't take major steps back. Well descriptions, thanks. :D You are lucky for finding a husband who is also into yaoi, even if it's not the same kind of yaoi. :D You sold the yakuza yaoi manga very well too. I really like scarface and god father and outrage films so i'm definetly into mafia and yakuza stories. I'm kind of a yakuza yaoi curious guy right now... lol but i don't know, may be i grab it someday. :D Wow... the MAL cover of it is really dominating and.... ultra gay... (as expected lol) |
Dotanuki said: Jonouchi-Katsuya said: Yes there are. And there are lesbians into it as well. It is fairly strange. But I welcome them. :) I don't mind that they are around. (there is a anime shorts series about it. But I didn't like it) But yeah the guys I know in fandom are pretty cool. My husband likes yaoi too. But likes totally opposite type of yaoi I do. XD We are fairly incompatible as far as taste. I try to explain that to my fujoshi friends who dream of finding a guy who is also into yaoi that kinda more imagine one of you is into yakuza yaoi and the other is into feminine guys. XD Like total opposites (yes my husband likes hyper feminine guys). I think the good part of being in a relationship where you both like yaoi though is you understand it. And you think it cute when the other one gets excited. Granted, my husband does the classic squeal and I don't. ^.^; Probably because the person I hung around with most in my yaoi formative time was not into the squealing culture and my husband was by himself reading. My husband full on likes Mpreg and such... I mean I have tried to read some of them. I do think it is an interesting scifi concept but.... it is kinda weird even for me. But a lot of people like it. I guess that is a neeto fantasy. I mean you got to think, it is still porn... And people have taste in Ecchi right? Like, not everyone is EcchiKing and is interested in all of it. (granted he is like my best friend and I adore him). And not everyone likes the same hentai either. And not everyone even likes the same thing in romance. And yaoi isn't all one thing. Just because it all features gay guys... it isn't all the same. Like for me, something like Killing Stalking is too hardcore. It involves a guy kidnapping another guy and sticking him in his basement... and yeah. It is not a nice story at all. And Junjo Romantica, as much as many people think it is sweet, including my husband who argues that the amount of force makes sense for him who has gone through conversion therapy and would need a more pushy sort- I kinda just get turned off by the internalized homophobia Misaki has and also the possessiveness and forcefulness of Usagi. And the fact they never seem to progress makes it more frustrating. Meanwhile, a manga like Twittering Birds Never Fly, while very much not vanilla, the goal is to have a healthy relationship for the main character who is at the moment a yakuza boss who sluts around as a power bottom. Totally in control but enjoys being dominated. Looks blissful from pain. But, there is so much drama going on around to do with the mafia, and his other connections. And the romance that does develop... definitely not your standard. The fact that it does take so long for the main pairing to really be together is just great to me. It builds well over time. And I love that it progresses and doesn't take major steps back. Well descriptions, thanks. :D You are lucky for finding a husband who is also into yaoi, even if it's not the same kind of yaoi. :D You sold the yakuza yaoi manga very well too. I really like scarface and god father and outrage films so i'm definetly into mafia and yakuza stories. I'm kind of a yakuza yaoi curious guy right now... lol but i don't know, may be i grab it someday. :D Wow... the MAL cover of it is really dominating and.... ultra gay... (as expected lol) The manga with gay themes that even guys are supposed to like is called Banana Fish if you are interested. A lot of guys like it. But it is very long. But also very good. It gets labeled shonen ai on other websites because it is a shoujo demographic with gay in it. XD And it's story of revenge and such... yeah very much similar to stuff that came later I guess but in many ways is very much different. The art is not so good. But the story is amazing. And it is the real reason to read it. Also to see guys walk around with guns in a shoujo manga does have an appeal. (when you get into it, you will note exactly why this website didn't choose to label it? but same time, it reminds me a lot of a lot of other LGBT films like My own Private Idaho) |
Energetic-NovaJul 30, 2017 7:54 AM
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Jonouchi-Katsuya said: Dotanuki said: Well descriptions, thanks. :D You are lucky for finding a husband who is also into yaoi, even if it's not the same kind of yaoi. :D You sold the yakuza yaoi manga very well too. I really like scarface and god father and outrage films so i'm definetly into mafia and yakuza stories. I'm kind of a yakuza yaoi curious guy right now... lol but i don't know, may be i grab it someday. :D Wow... the MAL cover of it is really dominating and.... ultra gay... (as expected lol) The manga with gay themes that even guys are supposed to like is called Banana Fish if you are interested. A lot of guys like it. But it is very long. But also very good. It gets labeled shonen ai on other websites because it is a shoujo demographic with gay in it. XD And it's story of revenge and such... yeah very much similar to stuff that came later I guess but in many ways is very much different. The art is not so good. But the story is amazing. And it is the real reason to read it. Also to see guys walk around with guns in a shoujo manga does have an appeal. (when you get into it, you will note exactly why this website didn't choose to label it? but same time, it reminds me a lot of a lot of other LGBT films like My own Private Idaho) I added Banana Fish as PTR too. May be i read them someday... in the shadows... lol if my friends find out, they will make fun of me immensly lol |
| eh, i like BL/yaoi because it calms me down from stressful rl and i feel it's more interesting than het relationship. I like my yaoi from light/fluffy to heavy/angsty kinky stuff...i'm not really picky when it's come to bl/yaoi actually. (umm, bit icky with shota tho) also i don't randomly ship two or more guys together just because the series hv two or more guys because sometimes i just want some bromance and not straight-to-the-sex kind of relationship. |
| [size= 150]This is an interesting video I came across a few weeks ago. Hope it helps![/size] |
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