Rewrite 2nd Season Episode 11 Discussion

Arikado- said:
@gophercg asked why Kotarou didn't kill all those 3 mammoths, if you are saying that Kotori in terra didn't use the powerspot (I don't remember) then I have no explanation, what you say? A plot hole? Kotarou need them or they use an insignificant amount of life?

Rodielx said:


Oh yeah right, well Kotori kept doing all her druid stuff so she could revive her parents, when Kotarou yelled at her to go away she always said she wouldn't because of her parents, so if Kotarou "kills" her parents she doesn't have a reason to keep being a druid and wouldn't use her other familiars, so that's the reason. And he had to be a savage bastard to her because if Kotori knew he did it out of concern she maybe out of loneliness would have followed and helped Kotarou no matter what he said.

Xerain said:


You guys are forgetting the properties of Aurora. Aurora guides the creation of life. The odds of life coming into existence on it's own, but when aurora reaches a planet that it has never reached before, a bunch of new aurora is created and life springs into existence almost immediately. Yes, this is is completely illogical and miraculous. It is Dues Ex Machina, intentionally so, as in the world of Rewrite Aurora fulfills the role of God. That's why it is said that Aurora is a miracle.
BTW this information is from the encyclopedia entries that unlock in the VN after you complete the Terra Route, though I'm going from memory, so it might be a little off. These ideas were certainly in the anime... having a scant handful of easily forgettable rapid fire lines devoted to them.

The problem is that each planet can only produce a finite amount of Aurora. And the Earth used up enough of it through countless Rewrites/Salvations that it doesn't have enough to successfully complete another one.

So what happens when the reach the moon? The Aurora inside Kotarou spreads into the moon and creates new life and new Aurora. So yes, Life will grow on the moon. But it's a given that the moon is small, so it's not like humanity could life there permanently. It just grants them a reprieve and some much needed resources now that they have the almighty space tree to shepard them out into the rest of the universe. Perhaps to that new planet they mentioned on the news. Or maybe some other planet shaped like a boob. There are now endless possibilities, though screwing up again will always be in the cards.


New Topic: Thoughts on the Adaption

IMO they should have done first cour for common route, ending after the chaos caused by the Wind Dragon as a cliff hanger. Second cour would then be Kotori Route and Moon. (Kotori route because she is a large part of Terra. Not that Akane isn't, but Akane route should under no circumstances be the first route anyone sees.) If the adaptation didn't sell well, Moon actually isn't bad place to end. It has a nice climactic final battle, which wold have been a lot better given the proper time, then ends on a note of hope and possibility. A great sequel hook that still offers closure. Then based on sales they could do a whole 3rd cour for Terra, or not. Either way, I think this would have done a better job of advertising Rewrite+ and getting people to buy it. Because let's face it, that's the real reason this anime exists, being made on such a small budget as it was.

Then assuming the anime ended up massively popular because they didn't rush it to death, they could do a 2 part movie series covering Lucia Route, mainly because its self contained nature and action scenes in that lend themselves best to a movie, IMO.

While I personally don't really mind that they went with a new Kagari route, IMO, it only really has value to people who played the VN and understand it's just one of many ridiculous possibilities resulting from Moon Kagari's desperation while working on her theory. IMO that's the significance of the Meteor bonking scene in season one. "Hey, what happens if I bonk Earth Kagari, thus erasing her memory and changing her personality? Worth a shot, lets try it.... Nope. Next."

LockSpeedster said:
Is there a sequel to this, at least in the novel?

Abyhape said:
I am a little bit confused..

so did he succeed or failed?
didn't his mission is to protect kagari from being killed?
and yet he kill her, but the salvation didn't happened.

now after years he's ressurected by those children, but they didn't know it was Kotarou?

Kitsu-nee said:

His main goal was to prevent the salvation from happening, he wanted to save Kagari because he loved her, but in the end, achiving both was impossible. I guess you can say he was a little too late with showing Kagari good memories. It's not like "salvation didn't happen at all", and while humanity wasn't completely wiped-out, the world after that happening seems pretty much post-apocalyptic, everyone has to work and help out, there are tons of injured and killed people, all of the tall sckyscrapers were destroyed, there's not technology...

And yeah, girls don't remember him, no wonder, it's been a few years after all.

Abyhape said:

i see..
but if I'm not wrong, Gaia wants to end the world by kill Kagari so the salvation happened, so I was wondering, the death of Kagari means salvation right?
so why Kotarou kill her, but the salvation didn't happened?

planetarianVoId said:
PS: Anyone knows why i can't cry to this? Even Clannad dropped only some tears (same for AnoHana and some other rare ones)

Psychedelios said:
it's still kinda mind-f_cking to me... i don't understand a lot of stuff still.. for some reason, i still like it
what bugs me the most though is why and how did kagari met kotarou on the moon

zannett said:
I think all things considered Rewrite is still a decent series but the adaptation has to be viewed as more or less a colossal failure. As someone who didn't read the VN, it's impossible to make out what's happening a lot of the times. This isn't just a case of cutting out miscellaneous stuff; it's a case of incomplete storytelling.

What frustrates me is that Rewrite is obviously a quality piece of work and deserves to be properly told. This felt like a huge waste.

FatalGaze said:
I haven't played the VN to know much about this show but even so this confusing story defies logic to a great extent. Maybe it's hard to compile a long VN in to a 24-episode anime. But still I feel like the concept could've been way more interesting if they didn't make it needlessly complicated. I mean I feel like I wasted time trying to read about different routes and scenario when there wasn't anything deep about it. Instead I felt like I was left with more questions then answers towards the end.

However, I did like it slightly more than the previous season as it gave more insight into Koutaro's past. But the fact that ever route ultimately leads to the end of the world other than final terra route which almost did the same with a little less destruction seemed so pointless. I felt like the whole event could've been avoided if the protagonist just killed Kagari in the beginning since she was the main source of destruction which was triggered by Gaia or by just showing some positive contributions of humanity as "fond memories" to halt the destruction instead of trying to stop the war between Gaia and Guardian. But since love pervades all including greater good and rationality all those things didn't really matter.

6/10

ToG25thBaam said:


so I am confused, why did he have to kill Kagari? What is Kotarou, why did he turn into this plant-like thing? (from overusing Rewrite I assume, also watched season 1 like 2 years ago and don't remember a thing, only remember that it sucked) Why is Kotori being so buddy-buddy with Kotarou? Didn't he cut off their relationship? Why did he even need to do that in the first place, cutting off all relationships?

Thai777 said:
Yeah that the problem of cutting too much content. The ending is probably near impossible to understand for anime only viewer because there's too much content cut. It's been a while since I read rewrite but I'll try to summarize it for you.

To understand why Kotarou killed Kagari you have to understand a lot of thing. First, Kagari is the will of the earth, also called the Key. The Key is an existance that the earth summon everytime it's energy is about to depleted, her role is to find "good memories", in the case she doesn't find it she bring salvation to the earth and wipe every living thing to take their energy and do a re-evolution(back to bacteria and doing evolution all over again). The flaw of that system is that the energy isn't conserved well and the earth loses energy more and more. The timeline with Kotarou's and Kagari is a critical one. Kagari herself says that the earth has no more energy to entame a re-evolution and so if the Key bring salvation, life will be wiped out forever from the earth.

Now we have to ask why exactly the earth summon that Key everytime, and that answer is from the "good memories" Kagari search for. In summary the good memories are the will of the living to strive to survive no matter what since, the earth is basically just a planet to hold life, the true miracle of the universe is life itself and it doesn't want it to die. (The good memories is explained in episode 11 of the second season).

Finally we come to this season, Moon and Terra. Basically the Moon segment(ep 1-4) is somewhere outside the plane of time where the Moon(who has no energy, only enough to have it's own Kagari) steal some of the energy of the earth after one of it's salvation and use it to make simulation of infinite timeline to find out a path where life survives. That the plot, and at the end of it Moon Kagari find a path and send the energy back to the earth and we get into the Terra season (ep 5-11).

The Terra season is the true route, the way for life to survive but for it we have to go back to 10yrs before the first season, in Kotarou's childhood. In there, Kotarou made a choice that changed the whole timeline, he DIDN'T attack kagari and get fatally wounded(which gives the story of season 1 where he got amnesia and didn't age). And then moon Kagari guided all his actions for the rest of season. What Kotarou was doing was really show Kagari HIS will of survive and forge a path for humanity to strenghten it's will for survival.

How he did it? He destroyed the 2 faction that wasted the most ressource of the earth(Gaia and Guardian) and showed her how he HAS to live. But tragically, that was too late, Kagari already entamed her salvation and there was no way to stop it but to kill her. But, since Kotarou did manage to give Kagari some good memories, there's no need for another Key to spawn and search for it, and the cycle was over with it and humanity got a way to survive the ice age(the information about summoner Kotarou and Jasmin spread) and an iron will to survive. Also, since Kotarou and Kagari merged into a tree and became an OP familiar, humanity has now a method to escape the earth dying from the lack of ressource and exxplore the galaxy, that why this route is the true route, life survive and can still live outside the solar system.

Also Kotarou turned into a tree to survive salvation, as he rewrite himself more and more, he turns into a familiar and transform more and more like pure energy, and at the end the purest of energy is just a tree(it's symbolism). You learn this in some route of the VN where Kotarou has to transform into a tree to survive salvation and you also learn that Sakuya(the butler) was the previous Rewriter and also turned into a tree to survive the salvation of his timeline.


Sorry for this wall of text, Rewrite has like too much to explain to understand the plot. I hope it helped!

Thai777 said:
Also Kotarou turned into a tree to survive salvation, as he rewrite himself more and more, he turns into a familiar and transform more and more like pure energy, and at the end the purest of energy is just a tree(it's symbolism). You learn this in some route of the VN where Kotarou has to transform into a tree to survive salvation and you also learn that Sakuya(the butler) was the previous Rewriter and also turned into a tree to survive the salvation of his timeline.

ToG25thBaam said:
Thanks, it definitely helped. I was confused that there's a moon Kagari and an Earth Kagari but you cleared it up. I thought at first it was the same person but in a different time line, like after the moon arc they entered another timeline where humanity survives.

Still a lot to absorb though, I legit didn't know about most of these stuffs, either I wasn't paying attention, or forgot most of the details from season 1 or the anime just straight out skipped the explanation.

Can you please help me with a few more questions? How did Kotarou survive fatal attacks from Kagari at the beginning of the moon arc? What is Rewrite exactly, what power is it? Does Kotarou or any of the girls retain the memories from other "routes"? Akane acts like an adult even in her young age, and she seems to know Kotarou from another timeline or something. Why did Kotarou have to break off all his relationships before he depart? How did Kagari regain his ability to talk when it was shown that she lost it in one of the final episodes in that hotel scene?

Thai777 said:
As for Akane, basically everything in the Terra route is canon to the first season of Rewrite until Kotarou meet Kagari, that means that yes, Akane did know Kotarou before season 1 but I don't know if she remembers him well, I think she does dig deep into her background in her route but I'm not sure. I don't know what yo mean by Akane acting adult in her young age, you might be talking about the Holy woman ritual where Gaia transfer the memories of the previous Holy woman to the new one?

As for why Kotarou broke up all his friendship? I don't know who exactly you're talking about? Guardian? Kotori? In these case it's because in the Moon part, when Moon Kagari find her answer, the key to find the path for life to survive was the message Kotarou wrote and implanted in the theory: "I want to meet you again". That message became a core of the timeline and remade Kotarou with a strong urge to meet Moon Kagari again, that why he is infatuated with Terra Kagari and is so desperately on her side which made him betray Gaia, Guardian and chase away Kotori(that one was because he cared for her and didn't want her to be involved).

you also learn that Sakuya(the butler) was the previous Rewriter and also turned into a tree to survive the salvation of his timeline.

ToG25thBaam said:
After the Gaia presentation meeting or something like that where Kotarou's parents forced Kotarou to ask a generic question that would make the organization look good, and Kotarou did just the opposite, Kotarou then left the hall and met Akane outside of the hall. Akane was still a child but she talked about some mature topics with Kotarou, agreeing with Kotarou that they both disagree on Gaia's methods and saw through their hypocrisy and lies. Akane rarely acted like a kid when she was a kid.

ToG25thBaam said:

Yep with Kotori and his fellow guardians. Kotarou gave a reality smack to Kotori and had a fight with her and they basically cut off their friendship, they never amend that relationship and Kotori said she hated Kotarou before Kotarou left to do the important things. And then at the end of the Terra arc when the girls summoned Kotarou to be their butler, Kotori seemed fine with Kotarou somehow? She didn't recognize him or what?

ToG25thBaam said:

Also just noticed that they called Kotarou to be their butler is linked to this sentence of yours

you also learn that Sakuya(the butler) was the previous Rewriter and also turned into a tree to survive the salvation of his timeline.

Thai777 said:
We can just say she's a smart child then :P unless I'm forgetting about something from her route there's no deeper meaning to her intelligence.

Thai777 said:
She doesn't recognize him. What they summoned wasn't a pure "Kotarou" but a mix of Kotarou and Kagari, so his look should be the long haired butler one. Why he reverted into his old look? No idea that was the case in the VN and made it confusing too, bad planning or symbolism who knows?
As for Akane she too doesn't recognize Kotarou. But from what a fan said, Romeo Tanaka(the main writer of Rewrite) said that right now Kotori and Akane doesn't recognize Kotarou but perhaps in the future they might find out.

Thai777 said:
Yes yes, that was EXACTLY the intent of that scene. It was literally a parallel to Sakuya but anime viewer couldn't understand that part since Chihaya route wasn't adapted. Actually Sakuya and Kotarou has a lot of parallel being fellow Rewriter, that also the reason why Sakuya tell Kotarou he hates him on their first meeting.

ToG25thBaam said:
But yeah thanks a lot for helping with understanding the series. I wonder why would stories like this get animated if they don't plan on doing it well.. Island is also another story with a rather confusing time travel plot that would've been impossible to understand without the help of fans who've read the original source.

Mich666 said:
So it was generally the same shit as in the novel

I actually liked the first season (actally, even more than the game as it was put together well) but, the same as the game, this arc was literally horrible.

Kotarou is the worst character of them all.

Confucius said:
I still don't know what happened.

RianRiski14 said:
Is this the true ending from the vn?