| When you have no will to live? When you know that you will never find a will to live? When there's no longer anything left to live for? When life is only only suffering? All of the above? Curious. |
| Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
| The more important question is are you going to do a flip or not? |
| There's no static point where one considers it's time to commit suicide. It's just something a person thinks of at certain points throughout his depression. One can feel it's time to commit suicide after a failed math test like that Japanese kid not too long ago. There shouldn't be some point where it's understandable why one wants to kill themselves. People are depressed for different reasons, some have a shit life, some are bored of their lonely life, and some are just clinically depressed because they carry a gene that predisposes them to it. At almost no point should a person take their own life. I only think that very old, sick and people in a lot of pain that's never going away should have a right at assisted suicide but that's it. |
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| Few years ago I wrote article about suicide in literature. My final decision, that I still agree with, was that it is never a good idea, unless it can help to save someone/something that you value more than your life. |
| When life is no longer enjoyable for many years to come .... or when death will drag on painfully ..... ^_^ |
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| Some people would do anything to live longer. Kids die in the world all the time, they haven't experienced anything. Personally think it's horrible to think people throw life away. Life can be pretty shit but a lot of great things are taken for granted. Some are living through a lot worse. There's always something worth living for. Always. |
| It's probably something I'd never do (at least at present). The only situation where I'd consider it would be if I were in perpetual and severe physical pain. |
Take care of yourself |
| When I don't make it into the university course of my choice >.< |
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| Probably if you ever become homeless and can't get a job |
| When you wake up and realize you have to exist for another day. |
| Never. You should always strive to find reasons to live on. If you end up committing suicide then it's sad that's all your willpower amounted to. |
| Surprise, Life is all about suffering. That's what makes it great. If you don't have a single sadist or masochist tendency, then it's all pointless. I have yet to run into someone that doesn't have one of the above. It's unlikely you'll be the exception to the rule. You need to stop looking outward and start looking inward for what gives you purpose. And if you think a constant high or even consistent happiness is a purpose, you are sorely missing the point of existence. |
"I'd take rampant lesbianism over nuclear armageddon or a supervolcano any day." ~nikiforova |
| Depends on each person I guess, though it always starts with the feeling of no worth/worthlessness and then depression. Others don't get in the point of depression, since sometimes their friends or family helps them in a way to recover, but if ignored that's gonna escalate... I guess ppl don't really consider to end their life if its miserable, I think there's more factors that affects it, but that might certainly be a big factor... |
| Honestly, if you simply consider it then you have not reached that point yet. |
InsaneLeader13 said: Surprise, Life is all about suffering. That's what makes it great. If you don't have a single sadist or masochist tendency, then it's all pointless. I have yet to run into someone that doesn't have one of the above. It's unlikely you'll be the exception to the rule. You need to stop looking outward and start looking inward for what gives you purpose. And if you think a constant high or even consistent happiness is a purpose, you are sorely missing the point of existence. The lack of purpose to existence itself can be a despair inducing topic to those unable to comfort themselves with the opiate of the masses. Besides that, life is just want and fluff, no? ZettaiRyouikiA said: Suicide is stupid. Death will eventually happen, so why force it? Why wait for it? When you can take destiny into your own hands. |
| Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
| You should consider suicide whenever you want. Suicide is a right, not some wacky irrational thing we should be afraid of. |
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| When your problems go from temporary to permanent, and it just hurts to live. |
The person who said that the pen is mightier than the sword has clearly never heard of automatic weapons.  |
TheBrainintheJar said: You should consider suicide whenever you want. Suicide is a right, not some wacky irrational thing we should be afraid of. Though I reserve the freedom to commit suicide any moment I want as it is an action much like any other (like drinking coffee -- if you're feeling particularly Camusian), I will not go so far as to say it is not irrational. It is irrational if the reasons for it are. |
TranceJan 13, 2017 8:16 AM
| When Lord Trump gets stripped off his presidency. |
| On the day where you find HH down, your body pillows stolen, and the lolis gone. jk dont kys |
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| if i was captured by isis kappa ............. |
Yarub said: When Lord Trump gets stripped off his presidency. oh my god keep going, you'll make it a reality! real talk tho theres never a good time to kill your self, that's always foolish. However, there might be a good time to throw your life into the fire like if you were in a war against thousands of zerglings, make sure to go out with guns blazing, never get taken alive, etc. |
| I CELEBRATE myself, And what I assume you shall assume, For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you. |
| When there will be no one left that would feel bad about me dying. As long as my mother is alive I can't do it, I will probably do it after she dies. |
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Ulquiorra said: When there will be no one left that would feel bad about me dying. As long as my mother is alive I can't do it, I will probably do it after she dies. you might wanna wait 25-30 minutes tho lol I mean maybe after your mother is gone you'll feel more freedom xD horrible thought I know but hey... JUST SAIYAJIN |
| I CELEBRATE myself, And what I assume you shall assume, For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you. |
| Whenever the specific person feels its necessary; when they feel as if their plight is unbearable or there is no other means of escape. I can assume it's a gradual process and the decision isn't as abrupt as it is made out to be. |
xrockxz89 said: Ulquiorra said: When there will be no one left that would feel bad about me dying. As long as my mother is alive I can't do it, I will probably do it after she dies. you might wanna wait 25-30 minutes tho lol I mean maybe after your mother is gone you'll feel more freedom xD horrible thought I know but hey... JUST SAIYAJIN Lol, I'm not controlled by my mother, but this is how I feel at this moment. I would feel really bad about making her sad with my death. |
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Ulquiorra said: xrockxz89 said: you might wanna wait 25-30 minutes tho lol I mean maybe after your mother is gone you'll feel more freedom xD horrible thought I know but hey... JUST SAIYAJIN Lol, I'm not controlled by my mother, but this is how I feel at this moment. I would feel really bad about making her sad with my death. oh okay, yeah well then guess only the future can tell haha >_> |
| I CELEBRATE myself, And what I assume you shall assume, For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you. |
Trance said: TheBrainintheJar said: You should consider suicide whenever you want. Suicide is a right, not some wacky irrational thing we should be afraid of. Though I reserve the freedom to commit suicide any moment I want as it is an action much like any other (like drinking coffee -- if you're feeling particularly Camusian), I will not go so far as to say it is not irrational. It is irrational if the reasons for it are. Suicide is rational. Continuing to live is not, actually. People continue to live because their genes programmed us to want to live. |
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| When your means of battling/will to live completely fades, suicide is fine. It's not selfish, no one should have to endure an everyday pain that isn't getting better in any way. The only guilt you would have, is wasting your parents time and money, sometimes even if they are abusive. |
Living is a velleity, because ice cream is life.  |
| I don't believe theirs a problem with contemplating suicide, I've contemplated it in darker hours as many people do. So while I do believe their to be no shame in thinking of suicide I do believe suicide to be an act of cowardice. My advice to anyone contemplating it is Seek help. |
| When you realise nothing you do will ever be good enough. When you work as hard as you physically can and you give your all day after day and it is never enough. When you understand that you exist to give birth to children in a world that you don't want to bring children into. If I was a bit braver I would have done it already. |
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| When your honour have been dirtied like a samuraiiiiiiii ! SEPPUKU FOR THE TARNISHED! |
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MortalMelancholy said: When you have no will to live? When you know that you will never find a will to live? When there's no longer anything left to live for? When life is only only suffering? All of the above? Curious. I do think of committing a suicide every now and then but I think I will still try to live as much as I can no matter how depressing my life is. But...maybe, if I were raped then I might consider killing myself or if for example..I am in a situation where I might get tortured or rape or both...then I will kill myself right then and there. |
| *Yawn* Not gonna argue again with a stupid troll. |
TheBrainintheJar said: Trance said: Though I reserve the freedom to commit suicide any moment I want as it is an action much like any other (like drinking coffee -- if you're feeling particularly Camusian), I will not go so far as to say it is not irrational. It is irrational if the reasons for it are. Suicide is rational. Continuing to live is not, actually. People continue to live because their genes programmed us to want to live. The implicit assertion is that: Our gene programming cannot be rational. Do you agree with your assertion? Just to give you a heads up: our rational capabilities are reliant on genes; if you accept even one thing as 'rational' in this world, then you cannot declare genes, and whatever they dictate us to do, as irrational. |
| Only in case I ever get stuck in some corner, while holding a grenade and being surrounded by a huge horde of zombies! :D |
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| when the dissertation someone wrote about your waifu being shit seems logical |
| when your capturesd behind enemy lines its probably time to chew those cyanide pills less you give away too much information |
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| When you rate Pupa anything higher than a 2/10 |
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| Um... never? Why should you consider suicide when you only have this one chance to live? |
 "The other day I met this man, a nice guy, y'know? And we had a really good chat. Then I slit his throat and ripped his heart out through his chest. Does that make me a bad person?" |
| Never. There was a documentary one time I watched either on youtube or TV about a female tourist who got tricked and captured by one of those 3rd world guerilla warfare faction/groups (you get the gist) and being held captive for ransom for a hefty amount. It eventually led her to be held captive for several years and basically being raped daily by several men. At one point she explained making a very logical and level-headed decision to commit suicide when she go the chance. Long story short she's free now and was giving this interview at home. I remember thinking in that kind of situation, suicide could be an option, but honestly I still don't think I would go through with it. Extreme situations calls for extreme measures, like hypothetically for example 9/11. You're stuck in the tower. Do you commit suicide by jumping off? or do you stay put. I can't say. Thankfully I've never been in a dire situation like that. But all in all I wouldn't advise anyone to consider suicide, nor would I tell myself to. |
anonypcJan 14, 2017 2:26 PM
| At the point when you consider joining MAL |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| yeah honestly i can't say for most it's much of a "conscious" decision either. in terms of suicidal depression there's a time when it sort of thinks for you. the one time i had attempted suicide i almost didn't realize what i was doing until i was caught. it also really screws with you so don't do it. suicide fuckin sucks. i make a lot of jokes about it but that's more of a way to make some light of a shite situation i guess. idk im probably just rambling at this point. if anybody feels that way feel free to pm me or whatever. i dont know any of you but i bet you i still care, even if nobody else seems to. <3 |
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Daconator said: Trance said: His explanation was asking to be misinterpreted (if I understood him correctly). :^)The implicit assertion is that: Our gene programming cannot be rational. Do you agree with your assertion? Just to give you a heads up: our rational capabilities are reliant on genes; if you accept even one thing as 'rational' in this world, then you cannot declare genes, and whatever they dictate us to do, as irrational. I think he means something like this (@thebraininthejar): All animals are emotionally bound to life, it’s the bedrock principle by which everything else functions and develops. Life is a sisyphean journey written by the constant need to appease different aches of an unquenchable state of insatiability. Consider how pain is a better motivator than gratification, or how false negatives are more dire than false positives. It follows then: were people not chained to life, taking it would be the logical conclusion. _______________ Except, why even ponder this? It would, after all, be unreasonably ideological to assess life on the basis of what could have been, instead of what is. You accept reality and play the hand you were dealt to the best of your abilities. That implies adopting a more positive posture. Anything else is irrational, woe is me hardly helps. Why do people have to play the hand they're dealt with? Do you say the same thing to a woman who wants to leave her violent husband? Suicide is rational if you don't want to play that hand. Trance said: TheBrainintheJar said: Suicide is rational. Continuing to live is not, actually. People continue to live because their genes programmed us to want to live. The implicit assertion is that: Our gene programming cannot be rational. Do you agree with your assertion? Just to give you a heads up: our rational capabilities are reliant on genes; if you accept even one thing as 'rational' in this world, then you cannot declare genes, and whatever they dictate us to do, as irrational. Accepting something solely because of our gene programming is irrational. It means you used little critical thought. You cannot explain why your life is worthy to you. You can only regurgitate your genes' desire to reproduce. |
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| I personally can't see myself ever considering suicide. Life's too precious and too short even. But then again it is because of the kind of life I'm blessed enough to live that I'm able to think the way I currently do. If, let's say, I were living in constant suffering (especially for a long time), then.... who knows. My way of thinking and opinion on suicide might be different. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: Trance said: The implicit assertion is that: Our gene programming cannot be rational. Do you agree with your assertion? Just to give you a heads up: our rational capabilities are reliant on genes; if you accept even one thing as 'rational' in this world, then you cannot declare genes, and whatever they dictate us to do, as irrational. Accepting something solely because of our gene programming is irrational. It means you used little critical thought. You cannot explain why your life is worthy to you. You can only regurgitate your genes' desire to reproduce. Undoubtedly. But that's a strawman. Our genes have a singular direction and how rational that direction is really just depends on the situation (rape, for example, is irrational even though lust is ingrained in all of us). My argument is much more subtle: There is no such thing which is absolutely irrational. Your argument is this: Obeying genes is irrational. It's clear who has more explaining to do. Besides, @Daconator already clarified on many points. Try taking his perspective and seeing the reason therein. |
Trance said: TheBrainintheJar said: Accepting something solely because of our gene programming is irrational. It means you used little critical thought. You cannot explain why your life is worthy to you. You can only regurgitate your genes' desire to reproduce. Undoubtedly. But that's a strawman. Our genes have a singular direction and how rational that direction is really just depends on the situation (rape, for example, is irrational even though lust is ingrained in all of us). My argument is much more subtle: There is no such thing which is absolutely irrational. Your argument is this: Obeying genes is irrational. It's clear who has more explaining to do. Besides, @Daconator already clarified on many points. Try taking his perspective and seeing the reason therein. How is rape always irrational? We're not talking about ethics, by the way. I'm not saying obeying your genes is irrational - although perhaps the implication is there. I'll rephrase. Wanting to live, in and of itself, isn't rational. By that, I don't mean it's irrational but mere wanting to live doesn't come with 'rationality'. Some people have their reasons to stay alive. Others just don't think. Daconator said: TheBrainintheJar said: It's only rational if besides not wanting to play that hand, you are also able to throw it away.Why do people have to play the hand they're dealt with? Do you say the same thing to a woman who wants to leave her violent husband? Suicide is rational if you don't want to play that hand. My previous post has the answers to those questions so you can just reread it. Suicide is difficult. There is no guide how to kill yourself that's easily available. You didn't answer why someone must live with the hands they were dealt with. |
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MortalMelancholy said: When there's no longer anything left to live for? When life is only only suffering? I'd say these two must be present to some major extent—not to the exclusion of all else, but to the point that it is difficult to find anything else. There may be something left to live for, but if you're struggling to think of something, something needs to change in a big way, and suicide is a way to change it. Similarly, if your life is overwhelmed by suffering to the extent that the brief moments of pleasantness are all but wiped from memory, there needs to be a change. I considered suicide in two instances: when I was severely depressed, and when I was in extreme pain to the extent that I had trouble thinking of anything else. When one of those two things becomes your entire world, you have to do something, and often the only thing that comes to mind is suicide. The urge to act gets twisted into an intent to cause oneself harm, purely to escape the madness that is the pain itself. In both of those cases, I was willing to do very nearly anything to alleviate the pain; in that circumstance, I can see suicide being a reasonable option, because looking far ahead, to a time when that pain will be gone, becomes entirely impossible. Obviously, the general advice is, "never kill yourself," but that in itself is a shortsighted and ignorant view. There are times when suicide is the only solution a person can come up with, and more people need to be able to respect that, even if they still attempt to help that individual—I would rather die than be high on painkillers or narcotics for my entire life, and I think that should make sense to most reasonable individuals; if I'm simply a drain on society, what is my worth? |
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