Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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Jagd84 said: They were fine the last time saw them, and were only ever in danger at all because of Elsa. She's gone and they both gone back doing what they were before so what need is there for him to worry? If anything he has more important to dealing right now since he is the most danger. - when he woke for the first time he didnt knew that someone after him and Emilia also know nothing about this.... + even if he ask afterwards (when he knew that someone about to kill him) it could provide him hints about who is after him (before the revealed) since the events could be related like he mention. - they wasnt fine - Rom injured and Felt home, Rom bar (or whatever) were destroyed he saw all this. so doesnt he concern at least for Felt? like how she move from there. also why Emila doesnt ask him about is relationship with them and tell him about the ending were Reinhard took Felt.... Unlike everyone else Emilia has least reason to think he is a spy, moreover Puck stated he was alright and she trusts Puck enough at least to take his word for it. And honestly he hadn't shown that he knew that much about her anyway, just that he knows about the her insignia missing. when Reinhard question her about Subaru she mention that she doesnt know him and thats its there first meeting after there encounter earlier.... then she say that she take him to her home to find out about this, i found it weird thats after he wake up they start carelessly talk like nothing happened before. |
NisxMay 13, 2016 5:08 AM
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Nisx said: leaving everything thats happened on this episode i still wonder - - why Subaru doesnt question Emilia about what happened after he pass out especially with Felt and Rom. Here, I am pretty sure he trusts Emilia and Reinhard enough to not worry too much about them. And even so, he is the one in the most dangerous position right now and should think about himself first. That is probably why author let it slide soooo easily. I mean, did he even think it through this much? It really is a detail. Or is it only because of the adaptation? - why Emilia doesnt question Subaru about how he knew all this things about her "when they never met"(on previous events). it just feel like jump in story for no reason when i look on how they spend last episodes. Yeah.. well, do you watch the specials? Puck does mention it and she finds it strange too. Now you might wonder why doesn't she just straight up and litteraly corner him against a wall and ask him about what this is all about? But you have to realise two things here: He's been risking his life for her, even without her knowledge of every loop, she should still trust him easily. Besides, why would he stop Elsa from killing her if Subaru was working against her as an assassin or a spy? It is just a stupid assumption to begin with. I mean, Roswaal having them is ok and makes sense I guess but there's no way she could be having them as well after all she witnessed him do for no freaking real reason. And even Puck says he doesn't sense bad intentions in Subaru so why would she not trust him? Second, you should think about it from this angle: Mr.Pleiades and Emilia are both very naive and gullible beings. Well, not sure about Emilia but he is very naive. He can think, he has a brain sometimes, but just look at his reaction this episode? He's like "what the hell, no freaking way?". |
SirLezardMay 13, 2016 6:17 AM
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Mormegil said: Knowing that the author likes to play with the clichés, I would say the solution is to not befriend any of them.If we're going by the ogre story and their conversation in the room, I guess the solution is to befriend the both of them. The harem END is usually the answer to all of life's problems. |
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mozgow said: Mormegil said: Knowing that the author likes to play with the clichés, I would say the solution is to not befriend any of them.If we're going by the ogre story and their conversation in the room, I guess the solution is to befriend the both of them. The harem END is usually the answer to all of life's problems. agree, there is also that little scene where roswaal tells ram to eliminate subaru if he continues to be too conspicuous, so that may further point to the solution being to don't befriend anyone to don't raise more suspicion yet, the real solution should be to confront roswaal, since he's the one giving out the order to eliminate subaru if he acts suspicious |
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| This story definitely not harem whether he ends up befriend twins or not. i can guarantee that. Zeando said: mozgow said: Knowing that the author likes to play with the clichés, I would say the solution is to not befriend any of them. agree, there is also that little scene where roswaal tells ram to eliminate subaru if he continues to be too conspicuous, so that may further point to the solution being to don't befriend anyone to don't raise more suspicion yet, the real solution should be to confront roswaal, since he's the one giving out the order to eliminate subaru if he acts suspicious That is an assumption. There is no proof to viewers or Subaru that Roswaal is behind this. Subaru's left his territory of his own will (and Roswaal was even gave him hush money) so there should be no reason why Roswaal would order his death if this just about Subaru being a spy. Take note I'm not saying that Roswaal couldn't still possibly behind it, but there is nothing near the level of certainty your making out to be with the factors in this loop. He's just another possibly. Nisx said: - when he woke for the first time he didnt knew that someone after him and Emilia also know nothing about this.... + even if he ask afterwards (when he knew that someone about to kill him) it could provide him hints about who is after him Eh, I'm not really understanding part of your post. Who was after him when he woke...? What does that even have to do with Rom and Felt? (before the revealed) since the events could be related like he mention. - they wasnt fine - Rom injured and Felt home, Rom bar (or whatever) were destroyed he saw all this. so doesnt he concern at least for Felt? like how she move from there. also why Emila doesnt ask him about is relationship with them and tell him about the ending were Reinhard took Felt..... For starters, he knows Rom's fine because Subaru saw Emilia stabilize him and say so herself. For Felt he saw when she brought Reinhard to help him. So neither of the two were any danger when last saw them. You seem to be misunderstanding something here, Subaru wasn't worryingr about Felt because he was acting like some big brother,it was because they had gotten caught in mess up with Insignia and Elsa. Both of those situations were resolved before he fell unconscious after noticing he had been cut. So what exactly should he be worry about? It's not like he's that close to them either. when Reinhard question her about Subaru she mention that she doesnt know him and thats its there first meeting after there encounter earlier.... then she say that she take him to her home to find out about this, i found it weird thats after he wake up they start carelessly talk like nothing happened before Because regardless who he is saved her life that's why she took him in to heal and thank him. Why is this even question? Besides as I stated she used Puck ascertain his intentions by reading his mind, because all their care about at moment is whether he's threat to them or not. Puck assure her that Subaru is as he appears. She took word Puck's word for it the end. Tony_SansNom said: Second, you should think about it from this angle: Mr.Pleiades and Emilia are both very naive and gullible beings. Well, not sure about Emilia but he is very naive. He can think, he has a brain sometimes, but just look at his reaction this episode? He's like "what the hell, no freaking way?". I don't feel like either of the two have been very naive or gullible so far. At least any mistakes they may have made haven't been reasonable and hasn't involved trusting others without a thought or reason. Granted they both still fairly ignorant about their world, but has more to do with them being young teens who are still developing. |
Iron_MawMay 13, 2016 8:25 AM
Tony_SansNom said: Yeah.. well, do you watch the specials? Puck does mention it and she finds it strange too. Now you might wonder why doesn't she just straight up and litteraly corner him against a wall and ask him about what this is all about? But you have to realise two things here: He's been risking his life for her, even without her knowledge of every loop, she should still trust him easily. Besides, why would he stop Elsa from killing her if Subaru was working against her as an assassin or a spy? It is just a stupid assumption to begin with. I mean, Roswaal having them is ok and makes sense I guess but there's no way she could be having them as well after all she witnessed him do for no freaking real reason. And even Puck says he doesn't sense bad intentions in Subaru so why would she not trust him? Second, you should think about it from this angle: Mr.Pleiades and Emilia are both very naive and gullible beings. Well, not sure about Emilia but he is very naive. He can think, he has a brain sometimes, but just look at his reaction this episode? He's like "what the hell, no freaking way?". isnt thats how assasin/spy work? what better way then buy her trust and let him into her house, extreme trojan horse tactic - joke. i still found it odd thats he didnt ask about them even if he saw thats everyhing ok (like you said) and Emilia should have ask him about is relationship with Felt she saw Reinhard taking her.... i agree with the naive part. Jagd84 said: Eh, I'm not really understanding part of your post. Who was after him when he woke...? What does that even have to do with Rom and Felt? on early post you said thats he as better things to worry about now thats someone trying to kill him. i explain thats when he wake up for the first time he didnt knew about this (thats someone after him - to kill him or assassinate the castle members) and he still didnt ask anything regardless previous events, it also could provide him hints about who the attacker if he ask later (when he knew, before the attacker revealed). |
NisxMay 13, 2016 10:39 AM
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Nisx said: i still found it odd thats he didnt ask about them even if he saw thats everyhing ok (like you said) and Emilia should have ask him about is relationship with Felt she saw Reinhard taking her.... Why would she ask that when Felt and Reinhard have nothing to do with her? Even she knew what would she do with that info? All Emilia knows is that Felt was a thief was hired by Elsa to steal her item and that Subaru wasn't with them. So there no point in talking about to her since Felt is no longer a concern to her. on early post you said thats he as better things to worry about now thats someone trying to kill him. i explain thats when he wake up for the first time he didnt knew about this (thats someone after him - to kill him or assassinate the castle members) and he still didnt ask anything regardless previous events, it also could provide him hints about who the attacker if he ask later (when he knew, before the attacker revealed). That still doesn't have much do with I'm talking about. When he first woke, he met Betty went on to knock him out. The second time he woke he met twins and then later Emilia. Elsa was the of attacker of previous events who he and everyone saw escape. There wouldn't anything to tell him that he didn't already know. So certainly wouldn't help him wihat's going on right now. |
Iron_MawMay 13, 2016 1:07 PM
Nisx said: isnt thats how assasin/spy work? what better way then buy her trust and let him into her house, extreme trojan horse tactic - joke. You want to assassinate someone, another assassin is going to do the dirty job for you, and make it look like you have nothing to do with anything, yet you stop the enemy assassin, save your target, only to try (and probably fail to) kill her later at a place where people would absolutely know it is you? Your way of thinking is strange. |
| "Vaut mieux se suffire à soi que finir assoiffé dans le monde des apparences." |
Tony_SansNom said: Nisx said: isnt thats how assasin/spy work? what better way then buy her trust and let him into her house, extreme trojan horse tactic - joke. You want to assassinate someone, another assassin is going to do the dirty job for you, and make it look like you have nothing to do with anything, yet you stop the enemy assassin, save your target, only to try (and probably fail to) kill her later at a place where people would absolutely know it is you? Your way of thinking is strange. i was joking :/ i even say it.... Jagd84 said: Why would she ask that when Felt and Reinhard have nothing to do with her? Even she knew what would she do with that info? All Emilia knows is that Felt was a thief was hired by Elsa to steal her item and that Subaru wasn't with them. So there no point in talking about to her since Felt is no longer a concern to her. That still doesn't have much do with I'm talking about. When he first woke, he met Betty went on to knock him out. The second time he woke he met twins and then later Emilia. Elsa was the of attacker of previous events who he and everyone saw escape. There wouldn't anything to tell him that he didn't already know. So certainly wouldn't help him wihat's going on right now. anyway i tend to agree with Vinyet on is comment earlier and will add thats it seems like they short in time so its understandable why everything in story jump fast without much of a characters interaction about it or maybe it just how this story build.... anyway i think thats what missing to me after watching so many generic anime's :P. btw next episode PV is out - looking great :) . |
NisxMay 13, 2016 2:26 PM
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smoct_ai said: You answered : "Sure If I could instantly revive and keep all my memories like him since it's a valid option." Seriously? Even if your blood and limes may come off your body? I'm starting to wonder if you really read other peoples posts or not. Because this right destroys your point. Once again does not kniw anything about how he died, you deal with something you don't kniw the first thing about. That goes for anything in life. Subaru died in 2nd loop because didn't how he died his first. Norhing he could done have done would logic prepare him for it beyond hom being aware that he died. The point of 2nd and 3rd loops is to find that out and why. If you cannot get such a simple rational than there us no helping you. Rest just your nitpicking about nothing has to do with result. |
Iron_MawMay 13, 2016 4:13 PM
smoct_ai said: Jagd84 said: I'm starting to wonder if you really read other peoples or not. Because this right destory point. 9nce again does not kniw anything about how he dued, you deal with something you don't kniw the first thing an Wasn't it your answer to my question, "Would you think that keeping awake at the 4th day night is everything you can do about?" ? I still wonder if you would think that keeping awake at the 4th day is everything you can, and will do, given that you are well aware of the possibility that you might experience extremely brutal death (your limbs, guts coming off your body). It is if you have no way of knowing how it even happened let alone preventing or defending against it. But he does have yhe ability to revive after death while retaining his memories so he can better prepare to deal with things next time. Knowledge is everything in series and his ability allows him gain info in a way moat wouldn't be able to and use that to his advantage over his opponents |
Iron_MawMay 13, 2016 4:24 PM
smoct_ai said: "It is if you have no way how it even happened let alone preventing.... Knowledge is everything in series. " Yes, Knowledge or information matter a lot in the series. But being aware of a likely event is also a knowledge/info as well, just like a weather forecast predicting it will rain with 80% probability is a knowledge - which provides a good reason to carry with an umbrella, even if it turns out there is no rain tomorrow after all later. You repeatedly ignore Subara had a knowledge, that is, he knew that there was a good chance of being killed, possibly by a brutal death. That knowledge alone is a good reason for him to do more for preparation, besides keeping awake at the 4th day night. No because once again being aware is not enough. If it were then there would be no point in investigating anything and this whole situation would have been over long ago. That is why its's pointless to argue this. I've have not ignore anything, because all he has is conjectures which even Betty tells him it's stupid to rely on. If wants to get down to bottom of anything he actually needs real info even something basic about what happened to be true. I'm really tired of repeat myself and this discussion. It's irrelevant both in the story and by viewers/readers viewpoint and exist just so you can find something complain about. Fact of the matter is Subaru made the best and most efficient decision he could have given the fact he literally had nothing to work with and it payed off for him. You would have point if failed then a different discussion would be taking place. However this not the case so all this retroactive debating amounts to nothing other then grasping at straws. |
Iron_MawMay 14, 2016 5:46 PM
Mhiraa_Asuka said: See the preview ep7 in youtube.. subaru dies again... subaru will die, like many times, that is the point of this. But the causes is different, and will further the plot. |
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| Love this anime, it's like Bioshock Infinite mind [BLEEPS] on crack! Except this time I can daww, cry, and laugh at the romance between Subu and Lia all throughout. :) I also have never been so chilled to the bone with fear till I saw Elsa...HATE HER! I could feel Subu's anguish! They did well on making a scary as F villain like her. |
Raven_WingzMay 14, 2016 6:32 PM
Mhiraa_Asuka said: See the preview ep7 in youtube.. subaru dies again... In the future please post comments like that in the General Previews thread and not episode discussions okay? |
| Well not really a surprise for Rem since he died of poison and the one who cooked meals was her... We can pretty much guess that her reasons have a link with the blue and red ogre story But still good episode! |
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SpookyCece said: Well not really a surprise for Rem since he died of poison and the one who cooked meals was her... We can pretty much guess that her reasons have a link with the blue and red ogre story But still good episode! food poison theory is very unlikely. they could have done that so from day 1. why wait for day 4? it's not like subaru has done anything suspicious just from generally staying there. also knox 1st and 8th. what, being a butler is suspicious? please. |
| >I had no brain when I was 12 >Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12 >I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12 >Therefore children cannot consent This is what science has done to humanity. |
kidlat020 said: SpookyCece said: Well not really a surprise for Rem since he died of poison and the one who cooked meals was her... We can pretty much guess that her reasons have a link with the blue and red ogre story But still good episode! food poison theory is very unlikely. they could have done that so from day 1. why wait for day 4? it's not like subaru has done anything suspicious just from generally staying there. also knox 1st and 8th. what, being a butler is suspicious? please. Well didn't he die during his sleep? Than the food poison theory is pretty much working! It was clearly poison the second time he died! The intensity of it may varies depending with who he "hang out" the most. |
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| Oh My God! the killer was Rem! The whole episode was boring but at least the BGM music at the end made up for its lack of greatness in this episode! Ending was intense again but no ED... 5/5! |
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| @matias067 Personally I don't think it was boring. It gave us a lot of hints/clues/whatever you wish to call it about why Rem attacked him. |
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| Fun keeps coming, loving every episode. :) |
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| Dude, you need to flirt with the other one! |
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| DAT PLOT TWIST AT THE LAST PART. Jagd84 said: Smudy said: Also the ogre story (which i am familiar with since Ore Monogatari!) was very interesting, that's probably the story of Ram and Rem in a nutshell. Yes, judging by her reaction and her comment about not telling this story to Rem their pasts probably parallel that. It gives you an idea what kind of relationship they actually have. This. The foreshadowing in this show is strong. They give a lot of hints to the viewers, including the twin's hair colors and such other things. GoldenDevilGamer said: Luckily Subaru's still optimistic about everything, especially after a painful death like that. Yeah right. It's painful to stuck in a loop, like in the "Endless Eight" arc in Haruhi Suzumiya season 2. Or even more painful than the latter. |
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| WHAT ? Seriously it's Rem ?! After, I think I have my own idea to know why she is doing this. |
| Damn. So it was actually one of the sisters... If Rem is attacking him then Ram most likely is in on it, too. I kinda was hoping it was someone else but I can live with it. It really keeps the story together instead of introducing a ton of new evil characters with every story string. Now the next question besides Subaru's survival is coming up. Is the mansion lord against Subaru, too, or is it just the two sisters? I could imagine they are there to murder Emilia, because she has that insignia but I haven't watched it since the last episode came out so I forgot about the circumstances how they got to work at the mansion. Therefor I could be horribly wrong with that assumption and it is in fact the other way round and they try to protect Emilia by attacking Subaru :P |
| Funny how the "sound of chains" had such a lasting impact on MC-kun since it was the last thing he heard before getting killed, but somehow the sound of Elsa's voice back in episode 1 didn't. The episode itself was quite dull since I still have little to interest in the mansion's characters, but it was saved by the last few minutes. |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| Damn, Rem is actually the evil one? That was a rather unexpected twist, but ehh the story about the Ogres made me believe it would be one of the two. |
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| I actually suspected the culprit to either be Ram, Rem or Roswaal but the prospect of the maid being the killer has never been far off. Somewhere the killer wants Subaru dead for a reason, maybe both sisters are killer who knows. |
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| the ogre story reminds me of ore monogatari lol and wow, i kind of expected the attacker to be rem but it was still such a scene to find out. |
| What? >.< I knew it was gonna be one of them, but didn't expect this. |
| Oh wtf it was Rem all the time? Dude seriously WTF. |
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| It's kinda irritating how everyone is so aloof when Subaru mentions something that occurred previous to Return by Death. I mean, sure, they have no idea what he's going on about, but why does nobody question him? Subaru called upon Puck to protect Emilia like three episodes ago when they were fighting Elsa, but neither Puck nor Emilia ever asked him how he knew of Puck's existence, let alone his name or the hours he's awake. Wasn't the reason Emilia brought Subaru back to the mansion so she could find out what was up. She's really beating around the bush with that. |
Touka said: Subaru called upon Puck to protect Emilia like three episodes ago when they were fighting Elsa, but neither Puck nor Emilia ever asked him how he knew of Puck's existence, let alone his name or the hours he's awake. Wasn't the reason Emilia brought Subaru back to the mansion so she could find out what was up. She's really beating around the bush with that. That was addressed in the shorts which air right afterwards. You seem to forget that not more than 4 days pass. She is in no rush to do that, especially since she checked whether he has malicious intents or not through Puck. |
Fappa said: Touka said: Subaru called upon Puck to protect Emilia like three episodes ago when they were fighting Elsa, but neither Puck nor Emilia ever asked him how he knew of Puck's existence, let alone his name or the hours he's awake. Wasn't the reason Emilia brought Subaru back to the mansion so she could find out what was up. She's really beating around the bush with that. That was addressed in the shorts which air right afterwards. You seem to forget that not more than 4 days pass. She is in no rush to do that, especially since she checked whether he has malicious intents or not through Puck. I just watched the short, but sadly it's kinda just thrown under the rug. Subaru isn't even in it so my point stands. Furthermore, four days is the better part of a week. Guess nobody in this series has any sense of curiosity or urgency. |
Touka said: I just watched the short, but sadly it's kinda just thrown under the rug. Subaru isn't even in it so my point stands. Furthermore, four days is the better part of a week. Guess nobody in this series has any sense of curiosity or urgency. You're supposed to watch that with the knowledge that Subaru is able to read one's mind and one for malicious intent. Still neither she or him have any pressure. She has to learn for the upcoming election and he is supposed to live himself in because this will be his place to stay in the future. She has checked him if he has any bad intentions and since that isn't the case she's going at it very slowly. Also we got to know that she is not the person to get rude hence the white lie in episode 1. |
| Damn I really like Subaru and Puck's interactions. They are funny together! That was a nice way to identify the killer, good job Subaru. I expected as much the killer being one of the two twins but I have no idea about their motives. This is good. |
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| Rem?!?! O.O didnt see that one coming? Another crazy ending/cliffhanger!! this is insane! Why is she doing this?? Honto Sugoi episode!just Amazing! lots of mixed emotions in this one, Laughter, fear, sad, really amazing! and interesting! Love to see more about Beatrice ideas uhhuhu ^^ too the next one! |
| cause MAL is doing there job for once. |
| Its interesting how different Emilia acts now. When he first met her she was kinda rash and acted like she shouldnt even save him, now she's just a sweet, nice, innocent girl. Still liking how they have the after credits badassness...and ren? WTF? |
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