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Dec 25, 2015 6:49 AM
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It's so stupid, Yaoi is always better than Yuri. In Yaoi, not only the Sex, but everything, the story, the art, the romance , everything <3


Oh, Yaoi always sell better than Yuri.
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Because they do not need peter anymore to watch and they lust for 2d pussies. As they cling on their little peters they fantasize the poorly drawn breasts and pussies among two women, rubbing each other.
Dec 25, 2015 8:05 AM
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preferences of course.
this 30 character limit is killing me.
Dec 25, 2015 9:34 AM

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Because apparently, two girls doing each other is a man's fantasy.
Honestly, what's there to enjoy about it? Nothing goes in except toys.
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-bre said:
preferences of course.
this 30 character limit is killing me.


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Dec 25, 2015 2:07 PM

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To give a serious answer, because the repercussions of a man being homosexual are greater than the repercussions of a woman being homosexual (think violence, etc). Therefore, the fear of being called/labeled/seen as homosexual (homophobia) is greater in men than in women, and is thus acted on more by men than women, against homosexual men more than homosexual women.

This of course loops back around and makes life all the more terrible for homosexual men, and starts the process all back up again, increasing homophobia and leading to more extreme homophobic behaviors. Nasty positive feedback loop.
Dec 25, 2015 3:25 PM

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Red_Keys said:
To give a serious answer, because the repercussions of a man being homosexual are greater than the repercussions of a woman being homosexual (think violence, etc). Therefore, the fear of being called/labeled/seen as homosexual (homophobia) is greater in men than in women, and is thus acted on more by men than women, against homosexual men more than homosexual women.

This of course loops back around and makes life all the more terrible for homosexual men, and starts the process all back up again, increasing homophobia and leading to more extreme homophobic behaviors. Nasty positive feedback loop.


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Everything you said is very true.

Although, one of the reasons why it is so wrong for men to be portrayed as feminine homosexuals is because of the patriarchy in our culture, and even more prevalent in other cultures.

I will not say lesbians do not face repurcussions, because most of them do as well (especially when they are not feminine sexual lesbians as porn portrays). However, the repurcissions for gay men are slightly greater because of a society built upon patriarchy,
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imouto4oniichan said:
And most females can not write male characters to save their life.
lmao shut the fuck up. as if males can write them any better

imouto4oniichan said:
If ecchi gets flamed for it's content then so be Yaoi.
You haven't read many BL, have you?

imouto4oniichan said:
There should be more shounen ai wriiten by actual gay men just like most yuri are.

Newsflash, shoujo GL series aren't necessarily written by lesbians. Lots of BL series are well written in the manga world, such as Doukyuusei (getting an Anime btw) and are written by females.
Dec 25, 2015 9:43 PM

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IIm_Clutch said:
This is a easy answer. Look at real life, most male and females accept lesbians. But most males don't accept gay people.
Not really... lol They're both accepted depending on where you live. But that doesn't mean people can tolerate watching about gay people romances.
Dec 26, 2015 6:47 AM

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I met girls loving yaoi... I didn't meet many guys loving yuri (I think 0).


Dec 26, 2015 11:29 AM

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EfiChan said:
I met girls loving yaoi... I didn't meet many guys loving yuri (I think 0).


because guys actually have sense not to waste their time with cheesy romances and actually want something worth watching.

i literally have not met a single person (well, let's be fair here, girl, since they hog up both genres) that has promoted yuri or yaoi that just doesn't have them end up in the bed. the MC is almost always instantly interested in the romance object (i say object since they really have no reason to like the person) and the rest of the show is just about the same old "But I'm a guy/girl...This can't be happening!" storyline bullcrap, and then they end up with them anyway (you KNOW they will). even real romances don't have love this sped up. it focuses nothing but on the romance and what happens between the person(s). there is really no plot, just ship, ship, shipping all day long. same with wincest anime as well.

it should just be plopped right into the "fanservice" genre. there's really nothing to it.
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EfiChan said:
I met girls loving yaoi... I didn't meet many guys loving yuri (I think 0).


Umm, I'm a guy and...

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Dec 26, 2015 6:35 PM
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Essentially, these anime are both romance. I kind of find the idea of yuri or yaoi fandom to be a bit silly. You're not a fan of a genre. Maybe because I don't read yuri manga, or any kind of yaoi. But most yuri shows seem to be pretty individual. Other than maybe a few tropes, they don't seem to have a ton in common. The only reason half of them are even recognized or remembered is simply because of lesbians. If not they'd be forgotten about
Dec 26, 2015 6:39 PM

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The more pussy the better.

#ayylmao

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EfiChan said:
I met girls loving yaoi... I didn't meet many guys loving yuri (I think 0).
all the anime fans that i've met were either in yaoi (females) or yuri (males). very rare if they like both or hate both.

tomday said:
because guys actually have sense not to waste their time with cheesy romances and actually want something worth watching.
troll detected. lmao

obscure said:
But most yuri shows seem to be pretty individual. Other than maybe a few tropes, they don't seem to have a ton in common.
uh nope
there's definitely many tropes going on

the shorter girl = tsundere
or the all girls catholic school
one girl wears glasses

etc. etc.

Camilleinator said:
yuri is pure yaoi is another story i prefer yuri tho
lol look at my pro pic u know where im coming from
your pic is honoka which is from love live
which has tons of lesbian porn doujins >.>

stop generalizing either genres lmao
there's "unpure" series in each and "pure" series in each.
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yuri is pure yaoi is another story i prefer yuri tho
lol look at my pro pic u know where im coming from
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Mayuka said:
EfiChan said:
I met girls loving yaoi... I didn't meet many guys loving yuri (I think 0).
all the anime fans that i've met were either in yaoi (females) or yuri (males). very rare if they like both or hate both.
I like both. Not huge fan, but it's quite relaxing to watch/read. :v

Both genres are pretty repeatable. You don't need to read/watch many to know who's gonna be uke, seme, tachi, neko or whatever you want to call the characters. It's mostly a matter of taste. whether you choose to watch/read or not.

I know that many people have problems with gay relationships even in the real life, so I would not expect them to be huge fan of yaoi. Lesbians are seen in another light (oh, just look who watches lesbian porn...), often as girls who will magically turn into hetero when they find the right man.

Personally I would love to see people wanting to discover new genres and titles but mostly they have their own little fears and prefer to stick with known world. You can't make people like something, you can make them stop hating it for no real reason. First to judge are always those who have never seen something or are lacking knowledge about the topic. It's human nature to comment before getting to know something better.
It's fine if they don't like something. It stops being fine when they start a flame war about it.
Dec 26, 2015 8:03 PM

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I like both. Not huge fan, but it's quite relaxing to watch/read. :v
mm i'm the same. i'm fine with any romance between any kind of people. although, i favour BL because i'm into guys irl.

Personally I would love to see people wanting to discover new genres and titles
definitely! i kinda wish there were more BL/GL series that were very... normalized rather than overly sexual/fetishized in the anime world. because people usually watch a variety of anime but don't actively seek out manga in a genre they normally don't read, unless they're REALLY open minded (me for example).
Dec 26, 2015 8:16 PM

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Mayuka said:
Personally I would love to see people wanting to discover new genres and titles
definitely! i kinda wish there were more BL/GL series that were very... normalized rather than overly sexual/fetishized in the anime world. because people usually watch a variety of anime but don't actively seek out manga in a genre they normally don't read, unless they're REALLY open minded (me for example).

I definitely agree with that sentiment. Shows like Aoi Hana and Sasameki Koto portray their homosexual love stories in a more normalized, realistic manner rather than the tiring fan-servicey, pandering style that we're more accustomed to. I just want more cool BL/GL series' that's more about the love and interaction between two homosexual characters rather than the fan-service.
Dec 26, 2015 8:19 PM

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Because I believe that 2 dicks is 2 many dicks.

Dec 27, 2015 5:05 PM

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because homophobics fetishize homosexuality
and since most fans here are (straight)males , they enjoy yuri but are phobic to yaoi
i'm a straight girl and i would enjoy yaoi just as much as yuri
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lol straight girls are the ones that look a yaoi so you had no need to say that.

it's one of the wonders of the world...:P

and i like how anyone who doesn't like homo stuff is a homophobe, but anyone who disapproves of pedophila doesn't have a pedophobia.
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probably because so much of yaoi is rapey is fuck
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Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes.
Dec 27, 2015 6:07 PM

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Because girls that's why :) everyone likes girls
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Its because guys see yaoi and say "ew!!, I'm not gay"!
Dec 27, 2015 10:38 PM

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leonstone said:

i know, what i was trying to say is that i don't mind yuri , because for me yuri is what yaoi is to a straight guy , since this question in mainly about guys


i thought it was just about everyone but then again i lost what the main subject of this thread is anyway lol

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Maybe because in society it is more acceptable to find lesbian action sexy and attractive than gay action. :(


empire says otherwise...also aren't lesbians gays?

Plus I don't see why gender should matter.. Yaoi or yuri, it is the love story that counts. :)


that is unless it's boku no pico or any other pedo relationship (such as the one when the elementary girl tries to seduce her teacher by rubbing against his crotch to "stay warm"). then it's ok to say it's gross.
Dec 28, 2015 1:43 AM

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cause not enough bouncy fluffy jiggly womanly chesty things
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Because in most anime fujoshi and random yaoi jokes dudes are repetitive and obnoxious characters that make yaoi look bad. Plus both tend to crop in series about cute girls and naturally annoy the target audience.
Dec 28, 2015 2:37 AM

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cause many many many ppl are unsure about their own sexuality and think in black and white even tho sexuality is everything between black and white.
Dec 28, 2015 3:06 AM

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They're afraid of their true selves.
Dec 28, 2015 3:15 AM
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As a straight guy myself, I guess it doesn't turn me on when I see two guys doing it in the ass and kissing and stuff whereas if I see two girls kissing each other etc. its actually kinda cute. I guess its really up to individuals but the majority prefers 2 girls rather than 2 guys.
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interent is full of male, and most yaoi haters is male, as simple as that.
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Simple: Most of the anime watcher are men. Men tend to like Yuri while girls tend to love Yaoi (not everyone, but mainly of those who do come from this gender.)

The end.


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Yaoi is local and Yuri is International for the audience!
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It is because most anime fans are guys and most guys are into Yuri than Yaoi.
I for one am a supporter of gay rights but I don't watch Yaoi nor do I watch Yuri.
Now, before people accuse me of being a homophobe and that I'm insecure about my sexual orientation...let me tell you that I'm not. I don't watch Yaoi or Yuri shows because I get no enjoyment out of it. I myself am not gay so watching gay people get it on is not something that I'm interested in. It does nothing for me. Doesn't interest me. I am a gay rights supporter though. This is because I feel like people deserve to love whoever they want and should not be stopped due to a case of gender. I brought up the whole ''insecure'' stuff because apparently, if you don't watch Yaoi then you are insecure about your sexual orientation. Which is absolutely stupid. Why would I watch something that doesn't interest me? I think it is a really low move to use ''insecure'' as a means to make you feel guilty. I've seen it happen a lot of times so I just felt like I needed to say it.
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i dont hate either wait why am i even posting then (opens thread door leaves)
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I don't mind yaoi type relationships being in anime I watch and the same goes for yuri, but I would never go out of my way to watch straight up yaoi/yuri anime because I don't find it interesting to me.

Apparently there is something called shonen-ai and shoujo-ai which I just learned about from this thread. Something like this I wouldn't mind seeing in a manga/anime if it didn't consist of the entire thing.

Although I have read/watched No. 6, and didn't know it had a shonen-ai (am I using this right?) aspect to it. I thoroughly enjoyed myself and thought it was a great read/watch. The same goes for Shinsekai Yori, I enjoyed watching this as well. Most people seemed to drop it when it had some yaoi/yuri elements in it which I find dumb because its not like they were having sex and it really wasn't in your face. Not to mention it lasted an episode maybe an episode and a half.
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Most animes/mangas have at least some fujobait scene, no matter what demographic it is aimed.There is a Yaoi fanbase for everything, even the most improbable franchises ever(Inazuma Eleven, Professor Layton, Bananas in Pajamas, Kaiji,High School DxD, Oreigaru).Cartoony artstyle, 1:10 male female character ratio, children's shows, canon straight love interest, NOTHING can impede fujoshis ruining everything with some shit fanart or fanfic.It's annoying, it's on the same level as MLP fandom.

Yuribait is pretty rare, there is some in Mahou shoujo here and here and that's about it...And most men prefer "normal" hentai than Yuri anyway.But all the female otaku I 've ever known are fujos, no exception and they hate straight sex so much that I suppose they are transsexual gay men or something like that.

I've seen some Shoujo ai mangas with fujobait scenes(WTF?).I mean, ecchis,harems, even eroge adaptations have fujobait, this shit got out of control. We'll never have a anime/manga with 0% of fujobait, it's impossible, i'ts really really sad.Even Prison School and Highschool DxD had some Yaoi scenes....
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Cejara said:
Apparently there is something called shonen-ai and shoujo-ai which I just learned about from this thread. Something like this I wouldn't mind seeing in a manga/anime if it didn't consist of the entire thing.


Just a side-note about that, since you're discovering that thing.

"Shōnen'ai" and "shōjo-ai" categories are invention from the Westerners, they don't exist in Japan. Actually if you go in Japan, you should avoid to use those words, except you don't mind passing for a Class A+ pervert.

By extension, since they are not used in Japan, not all Westerners use those words, I don't use them. So when someone speak about "yuri" or "yaoi", don't automatically assume that the person imply that it contains sexual contents. Especially in case of the "yuri", since the yuri fandom globally avoid the "shōjo-ai" term, the yaoi fandom seems more prone to use "shōnen'ai" though. I dunno why there is this disymmetry between the two fandom.
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Yaoi fangirls are annoying as hell and invade fandoms with their tripe. I'm saying that as someone who actually likes BL to an extent, they're annoying as fuck and ruin the genre's appeal from a fandom perspective.
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Well, I guess that the yaoi not disliked will, but just less attention given will. - Because it's the fact that about 70~80% of the "otaku's" on the world male are, where then the yuri-fan base obviously bigger is as the from yaoi. - But there can of course a certain % of haters (or just the genre/type doesn't like) give...
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Because yaoi is gay, whereas yuri you can just imagine yourself with either girl and it all works out.
Feb 26, 2016 8:33 AM

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I feel opposite. I love me some dirty boy love but I can't get myself to be interested enough in any yuri plots to actually watch them. Girl on girl seems like it would just be annoying drama mixed with tit touching.
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Kuma said:
because most of anime fans are male. it's obvious duh.


This. This can really sum it all up. But you gotta go deep, deep into the rabbit hole to explain the intricacies of why this is. >_>
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I'm not gay, except when I need money.
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I do want to point out first that it's not because most anime fans are male. If you visit any yuri fanpage, blog, etc. you'll find that almost always more than 50% of the fans are female. There are also VASTLY more straight females who enjoy yuri than straight males who enjoy yaoi. This is because yuri tends to be more about the romance/elegance/"cuteness" of the relationship than yaoi, which girls tend to like. Not just saying that, you can look it up yourself.

I daresay it also has nothing to do with yaoi as a genre. As a straight male, I obviously have no interest in yaoi, but I'm not going to actively dislike something just because it is not my taste. The dislike of yaoi (for me and many other anime fans I've spoken to) stems from the fanbase. I understand not all yaoi fans are like this, but while you almost never see obnoxious yuri fans posting all over yaoi fan pages and shoving their ships in your face, there are yaoi fans doing this on a regular basis. And don't just take my word for it, look up popular yuri ships from big shows like Attack on Titan or Naruto on Youtube for example and you'll always find that comment from the yaoi fan with more likes than any other comment being like "What about that malexmale ship though?" Harmless? I suppose. Disrespectful and annoying? Yep!

Anyway, sorry for the long post. But yah, that's why. To all the yaoi fans, please just enjoy what you enjoy with your own group; we don't need that stuff flung everywhere x_x
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Men think they'll turn gay if they watch two dicks clash together for anything other than a battle.
Oct 15, 2017 8:49 PM

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some people says that female can be either lesbians or bi
Not sure tho
Anyway yaoi is trash for many many reason
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why was this thread reopened it's from literally over a year ago

edit: it's from almost 2 years ago how tf did yall find this shit
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well, to be fair guys are a lot more touchy about seeing gay stuff than women are about seeing lesbianism
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