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No. NGE Had tons of symbolism, but personally I couldn't find it as deep as others found it. But it is usually a sign that the anime is more than your average Naruto/SAO.

Dec 17, 2015 5:15 PM

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You can have as much symbolism as you want, but in the end it will never be as balls deep as Oni chichi

Dec 17, 2015 5:16 PM

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No, just look at the third Madoka Magica movie.

OHHH SNAPPPP.

Dec 17, 2015 5:17 PM

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hoopla123 said:
You can have as much symbolism as you want, but in the end it will never be as balls deep as Oni chichi

why are you always so right based hoopla

Dec 17, 2015 5:19 PM

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What about symbolism that isn't religious?

Dec 17, 2015 5:20 PM

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Not Necessarily
Symbolism can be empty too. Sometimes symbolism(I've noticed religious symbolism like this) is there to attract the people that normally like that kind of stuff
Symbolism can make something over complicated also, though people seem to like over complicated stuff in anime

Dec 17, 2015 5:23 PM

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Obviously.

Dec 17, 2015 5:23 PM

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hoopla123 said:
You can have as much symbolism as you want, but in the end it will never be as balls deep as Oni chichi

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Dec 17, 2015 5:23 PM

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To answer your first question: yes, if the religious symbolism actually adds additional layers of meaning to the work.

Second question: No, that was not deep at all, just surreal.

Dec 17, 2015 5:24 PM

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no it's just confusing and stupid. When I am watching something, I want to understand everything from watching only the show, I don't want to try to decipher the hidden meaning using a symbolism dictionary.

Dec 17, 2015 5:24 PM

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JkayW said:
No, just look at the third Madoka Magica movie.

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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite

Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained

Dec 17, 2015 5:25 PM

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Can't we all agree that the use of symbolism is bullshit and doesn't change anything of the actual plot if provided more clearly?

Dec 17, 2015 5:26 PM

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JkayW said:
No, just look at the third Madoka Magica movie.

Completely overlook this comment. WIN

Dec 17, 2015 5:26 PM

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It can help to get the viewer thinking, but it isn't ultimately what makes a good narrative.

Dec 17, 2015 5:26 PM

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Not everyone really understands the symbolism behind most things. Take for example Angel's Egg, there's probably more symbolism in there than in NGE yet there is not a single way to see the movie. No need for spoilers here but there's probably twice the amount of christian symbolism in the former.

I think it's ultimately a matter of whether you can understand what's meant to be in front of you and how that plays for your eyes.

Dec 17, 2015 5:27 PM

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OneTrueBaita said:
No. NGE Had tons of symbolism, but personally I couldn't find it as deep as others found it. But it is usually a sign that the anime is more than your average Naruto/SAO.

NGE WAS NOT DEEP BECAUSE OF SYMBOLISM

Dec 17, 2015 5:28 PM

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Deago said:
Can't we all agree that the use of symbolism is bullshit and doesn't change anything of the actual plot if provided more clearly?

I'll agree to the thought you have little to no idea of what you're talking about.

Dec 17, 2015 5:28 PM

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gabrielrroiz said:

OneTrueBaita said:
No. NGE Had tons of symbolism, but personally I couldn't find it as deep as others found it. But it is usually a sign that the anime is more than your average Naruto/SAO.

NGE WAS NOT DEEP

I agree

Dec 17, 2015 5:28 PM

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Oh and guys, just so you know, the cross-shaped explosions in NGE weren't meant to symbolize anything. They were simply there for cool effect.

Dec 17, 2015 5:29 PM

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gabrielrroiz said:

OneTrueBaita said:
No. NGE Had tons of symbolism, but personally I couldn't find it as deep as others found it. But it is usually a sign that the anime is more than your average Naruto/SAO.

NGE WAS NOT DEEP, PERIOD

ftfy

Dec 17, 2015 5:30 PM

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whats up with this deep anime bullshit

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Valaskjalf said:

gabrielrroiz said:

NGE WAS NOT DEEP

I agree

i think you prefer deeper shows like naruto and dbz

Dec 17, 2015 5:30 PM

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gabrielrroiz said:

OneTrueBaita said:
No. NGE Had tons of symbolism, but personally I couldn't find it as deep as others found it. But it is usually a sign that the anime is more than your average Naruto/SAO.

NGE WAS NOT DEEP BECAUSE OF SYMBOLISM

Ikr, just look at how fucking deep and thought-provoking Kino no Tabi is.

Dec 17, 2015 5:31 PM

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OneTrueBaita said:

hoopla123 said:
You can have as much symbolism as you want, but in the end it will never be as balls deep as Oni chichi

why are you always so right based hoopla

A king is always right

Dec 17, 2015 5:31 PM

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you can do Symbolism like Spirited Away without distract enjoyment.
beacuse i don't give the shit if it not well made in the end.

Dec 17, 2015 5:35 PM

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Seems like someone has to watch Mind Game

Dec 17, 2015 5:37 PM

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Why the fuck did you post this shitty video. 10/10 arto i guess.

OneTrueBaita said:
No. NGE Had tons of symbolism, but personally I couldn't find it as deep as others found it. But it is usually a sign that the anime is more than your average Naruto/SAO.

What if i told you that sao's trees are part of the symbolism~

Dec 17, 2015 5:41 PM

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Lap1 said:
Why the fuck did you post this shitty video. 10/10 arto i guess.

OneTrueBaita said:
No. NGE Had tons of symbolism, but personally I couldn't find it as deep as others found it. But it is usually a sign that the anime is more than your average Naruto/SAO.

What if i told you that sao's trees are part of the symbolism~

3deep5me 10/10 animu

Dec 17, 2015 5:42 PM

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Lap1 said:
Why the fuck did you post this shitty video. 10/10 arto i guess.

OneTrueBaita said:
No. NGE Had tons of symbolism, but personally I couldn't find it as deep as others found it. But it is usually a sign that the anime is more than your average Naruto/SAO.

What if i told you that sao's trees are part of the symbolism~

What is the symbol of the trees in SAO?

Dec 17, 2015 5:42 PM

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But of course, just look at the masterpiece Tokyo Ghoul manga.

Dec 17, 2015 5:43 PM

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But of course, just look at the masterpiece Tokyo Ghoul manga.

I don't get it
Edit: I see http://shiningchild.tumblr.com/post/111517384952/all-symbolism-associated-with-kaneki-kensasaki

Dec 17, 2015 5:45 PM

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JewellTH said:
But of course, just look at the masterpiece Tokyo Ghoul manga.

Dayum, that hanged man symbol is the answer to life itself. TG is more and more intellectual the more I read it :O

Dec 17, 2015 5:47 PM

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This is my answer to NGE fanboys

Dec 17, 2015 5:50 PM

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hoopla123 said:
This is my answer to NGE fanboys

"Don't pretend that you understand the ending."

10/10. Also, NGE fanboys please explain to me why the Shinji x Hand scene was there and how deep it is please

Dec 17, 2015 5:51 PM

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hoopla123 said:
This is my answer to NGE fanboys

The comments on the video are fucking hilarious. They're taking this video as a serious offence to gay people.

Dec 17, 2015 5:51 PM

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I agree 100%.

Symbolism isn't inherently deep. It's just a literary device.
That being said, it often contribute to the impact of a story. Yet, on a purely aesthetic degree.
Even when a symbol is an allegory of morals or virtues, they're just stylized philosophy sketches, it can't be structured enough to form a proper philosophy.
Thought provoking? don't make me laugh.

I like it, as along as it doesn't ruin the flow of the story. Otherwise, it would lose its significance.

Dec 17, 2015 5:53 PM

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OneTrueBaita said:
10/10. Also, NGE fanboys please explain to me why the Shinji x Hand scene was there and how deep it is please

The film is basically a troll &
The anime has a very straightforward meaning and ending leaving aside the aesthetically/unnecessarily added religious elements.
At least for me

Dec 17, 2015 5:55 PM

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Lordwen said:

OneTrueBaita said:
10/10. Also, NGE fanboys please explain to me why the Shinji x Hand scene was there and how deep it is please

The film is basically a troll &
The anime has a very straightforward meaning and ending leaving aside the aesthetically/unnecessarily added religious elements.
At least for me

Well, I agree with that. It's a simple story that just makes itself seem so pretentious at times with those exploding crosses and other weird naming schemes/"references".

Dec 17, 2015 5:57 PM

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OneTrueBaita said:

Lordwen said:

The film is basically a troll &
The anime has a very straightforward meaning and ending leaving aside the aesthetically/unnecessarily added religious elements.
At least for me

Well, I agree with that. It's a simple story that just makes itself seem so pretentious at times with those exploding crosses and other weird naming schemes/"references".

Damn, I'm gonna pay my full attention during that movie when I watch it; and see how it goes.

Dec 17, 2015 6:01 PM

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u guys r like those guys who say illuminati everytime they see triangle

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Aria-da-Capo said:
Symbolism isn't inherently deep. It's just a literary device.
That being said, it often contribute to the impact of a story. Yet, on a purely aesthetic degree.
Even when a symbol is an allegory of morals or virtues, they're just stylized philosophy sketches, it can't be structured enough to form a proper philosophy.
Thought provoking? don't make me laugh.

I like it, as along as it doesn't ruin the flow of the story. Otherwise, it would lose its significance.

Very well put. I agree wholeheartedly.

Dec 17, 2015 6:04 PM

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Baturi said:
u guys r like those guys who say illuminati everytime they see triangle

Found one

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Baturi said:
u guys r like those guys who say illuminati everytime they see triangle

Well, fuck.

Dec 17, 2015 6:11 PM

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It depends on the ideas the symbolism is portraying and it's messages. Symbolism by itself isn't deep, but if the ideas it's symbolizing are deep and thought provoking, which they often are, then yes it can be.

Dec 17, 2015 6:12 PM

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Baturi said:
u guys r like those guys who say illuminati everytime they see triangle

shit, nasu illuminati member confirmed

Dec 17, 2015 6:15 PM

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Dawn said:
It depends on the ideas the symbolism is portraying and it's messages. Symbolism by itself isn't deep, but if the ideas it's symbolizing are deep and thought provoking then yes it can be.

So you're saying
(symbolism) + (deep ideas) = thought provoking
(--------) + (deep ideas) = thought provoking
symbolism + (----------) = Bullshit

hence;
symbolism=bullshit

Dec 17, 2015 6:16 PM

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Symbolism like Lain is just..eww
If you want to fight my argument, explain what's that alien means first.

Dec 17, 2015 6:17 PM

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Deago said:

So you're saying
(symbolism) + (deep ideas) = thought provoking
(--------) + (deep ideas) = thought provoking
symbolism + (----------) = Bullshit

hence;
symbolism=bullshit

Your explanation had too many symbols. Too deep for me :v

Dec 17, 2015 6:18 PM

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