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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Well dang. Kaneki's entered a rebellious stage, or maybe he's earned it? Anyway, he's sticking in CCG land for now, it seems. With the sole intent of bullying Urie. |
The feels~ Loved the dialogues of this chapter. |
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| The Karen-Shuu ship set sail and sunk within 8 pages....only Ishida. Great that Kaneki verbally bitch-slapped Urie for whining, probably the first real thing he did as a mentor for Urie. Kaneki no longer the Q's leader and he got promoted pretty interesting development. Hopefully, next we have the long awaited Cochlea/Hinami Arc that'll really just let Re: spiral out of control. |
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| -Didn't expect Ui to buy that so easily. (It's not blood it's his red/green hair, Chibi said so.) Kaneki has a face of no remorse the whole time. His kagune shows a strange pattern on it. Well the Edgeneki is back, and apparently is going to hide his Wolf self in Sheep's clothing for a while longer. I don't think personally that he did that to save Tsukiyama but we'll see. -That was sad there with Karren, atleast she died happy I guess and did what she wanted to do, and that was saving Shuu. -I think it's absurd to blame Kaneki for Shirazu's death not knowing the circumstances of him being late, but I sure as hell didn't expect Kaneki to be so cruel with his answer. Well, it's not like he isn't right. Keeping in mind how he is now, I'm surprised that he went to show his respects for Shirazu. -There were some complaining about him only being promoted to Associtate Special Class, whilst it's understandable you have to understand too that it was an off-season promotion, so that's why he only got promoted to ASC instead of Special Class. Urie finally got his credit by becoming the Quinx leader again, but at what cost. We won't see anymore chapters until next year, as I've been told (might be wrong). Atleast this chapter hasn't ended with a cliffhanger. |
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Nuvviveji said: -Didn't expect Ui to buy that so easily. (It's not blood it's his red/green hair, Chibi said so.) Kaneki has a face of no remorse the whole time. His kagune shows a strange pattern on it. Well the Edgeneki is back, and apparently is going to hide his Wolf self in Sheep's clothing for a while longer. I don't think personally that he did that to save Tsukiyama but we'll see. -That was sad there with Karren, atleast she died happy I guess and did what she wanted to do, and that was saving Shuu. -I think it's absurd to blame Kaneki for Shirazu's death not knowing the circumstances of him being late, but I sure as hell didn't expect Kaneki to be so cruel with his answer. Well, it's not like he isn't right. Keeping in mind how he is now, I'm surprised that he went to show his respects for Shirazu. -There were some complaining about him only being promoted to Associtate Special Class, whilst it's understandable you have to understand too that it was an off-season promotion, so that's why he only got promoted to ASC instead of Special Class. Urie finally got his credit by becoming the Quinx leader again, but at what cost. We won't see anymore chapters until next year, as I've been told (might be wrong). Atleast this chapter hasn't ended with a cliffhanger. Clearly Ishida didn't get the memo about Kaneki's hair. When I was reading the spoilers I kinda thought that he tried to save Shuu but after reading the chapter and seeing his dialogue and his panel it seemed that he basically told Shuu to fuck off. And imo Kaneki was just calling it like he saw it with the Q's if the fandom wants to think thats edgy well so be it. |
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| daaaang that chapter was too intense.. the feels for Shuu and Kanae ughhhh but this new kaneki is a bit scary haha |
| Dang.. I am hoping that Shirazu can be saved. :( I will miss Sasaki's black/white hair. |
| F0XFIRE said: OP 4 most butthurt bitch on MAL. |
| Wow. I didn't expect Ui to get out of that one alive... |
Nuvviveji said: -Didn't expect Ui to buy that so easily. (It's not blood it's his red/green hair, Chibi said so.) Kaneki has a face of no remorse the whole time. His kagune shows a strange pattern on it. Well the Edgeneki is back, and apparently is going to hide his Wolf self in Sheep's clothing for a while longer. I don't think personally that he did that to save Tsukiyama but we'll see. -That was sad there with Karren, atleast she died happy I guess and did what she wanted to do, and that was saving Shuu. -I think it's absurd to blame Kaneki for Shirazu's death not knowing the circumstances of him being late, but I sure as hell didn't expect Kaneki to be so cruel with his answer. Well, it's not like he isn't right. Keeping in mind how he is now, I'm surprised that he went to show his respects for Shiraz. -There were some complaining about him only being promoted to Associtate Special Class, whilst it's understandable you have to understand too that it was an off-season promotion, so that's why he only got promoted to ASC instead of Special Class. Urie finally got his credit by becoming the Quinx leader again, but at what cost. We won't see anymore chapters until next year, as I've been told (might be wrong). Atleast this chapter hasn't ended with a cliffhanger. Urie didn't blame Kaneki for Shirazu's death, he was mad that he didn't come sooner. Which is actually true since Kaneki was feeding on the owl's kagune while they mourned shirazu's last moments. Although Kaneki's statement to Urie was blunt and true, that was quite savage and inappropriate to say. I know you think that I may be overreacting and unable to have thick skin, which I'm not, however for him to say that to Urie was just too soon. It's like saying that the dead man about to be buried in a funeral was an asshole in front of his loved ones. It's inappropriate and uncalled for. This in turn speaks volumes for Kaneki's character. When he was shironeki, to an extent had respect towards the people he cared for. He apologized to Banjou for hurting him and said goodbye to a hurt Tsukyama. Now, Akaneki gives no fucks about his friend's emotions. This is also evident with Tsukyama and how he threw him off the building without even properly saying goodbye. Not even that, the fact that he threw a friend he knew for years off the building was cruel on its own. As I suspected. This new Kaneki here is beyond savage. Possibly, he might be even worse than his white-haired self. Awesome Ishida! |
| I honestly don't even know what;s going on anymore honestly. |
| Well, at least we know Eto is alive. God bless. _Okumura-Rin said: I honestly don't even know what;s going on anymore honestly. How? lol |
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| I wanted to see Matsuri's reaction, oh well. See you in the next arc, Kiyoko Aura and Furuta. Out of season promotion? So no Yoshitoki yet, thanks. _Okumura-Rin said: I honestly don't even know what;s going on anymore honestly. -Kaneki calms Ui down by telling him he had to eat the Kakuja in order to rejuvenate -Ui goes after Kanae; Kaneki impales and throws Tsukiyama out. -Kanae runs after Shuu, she throws herself in front while launching Tsuki somewhere else so that he could at least survive the fall -Kanae splatters on the floor -Eto nowhere in sight Meanwhile -Urie gets mad because Kaneki didn't appear soon enough for Shirazu (Shirazu requested to see Haise one last time in the previous chapter) -Kaneki gets promoted to Associate Special Class; Urie is Quinx Squad Leader /arc end Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
shawnofthedeadzDec 22, 2015 10:19 AM
| Is this Kaneki a continuation of Shironeki, or a worse one (mentally)? He seemed to be saddened by Shirazu's death. And lol he gave tips to Urie based on his past experiences. Burn and accept reality. Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
shawnofthedeadzDec 22, 2015 10:21 AM
Acernos said: bobzanny said: The Karen-Shuu ship set sail and sunk within 8 pages....only Ishida. Great that Kaneki verbally bitch-slapped Urie for whining, probably the first real thing he did as a mentor for Urie. you're right, get him out of the squad leader position, so he had a chance to think about the own mistakes showing how he was inappropriate to be leader and often train with him are unimportant. maybe Urie will not imitate the way that Kaneki took after the Aogiri arc. Wait are you saying that Kaneki taking Urie out of the squad leader position back in chapter 8 was the right thing to do? Because it clearly didn't let Urie man up until it was too late. Urie was always the one meant to be in charge of the Q's but Kaneki, while being delusional as Sasaki, didn't know/didn't want to be harsh on Urie and the end result is someone unfit, Shirazu, being squad leader and the eventual sacrifice. |
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| I finally caught up to :re and this chapter comes out the day after I catch up, I think it's safe to say I caught up at a good time. |
when ur about to have a refreshing sip of earl grey tea and someone says "traps are gay" |
| Well i was kinda hoping he will kill UI, but i though that he is doing it to save hinami but after seeing what he done to shuu well i am not even sure enymore. My reaction on page 1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc That kagune tho Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
shawnofthedeadzDec 22, 2015 10:21 AM
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| Can't blame Cookie for being mad at Kaneki for not being there: it's always easier to point the finger at others than having to deal with your own feelings of guilt. In this context, Kaneki's advice is harsh, but needed. Now what I'm wondering is whether Ui really bought Kaneki's shit. Kaneki told him he would take care of Shuu, but he's no fool: he most certainly knows that throwing a ghoul off the top of a tall ass building is not the best way to deal with it. The chances of survival may be slim, but they're still there. Ui's probs gonna be even warier of him than ever before. I'm also wondering whether Kaneki paying his respects to Shirazu was just an act or really sincere too. |
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| I`m still having trouble believing that kaneki took down Eto single handedly. I really can`t wait to see kaneki meet Arima after this. |
| Love that phrase Kaneki told Urie since it's true. Feel kinda sorry for Urie at the same time though. RIP Shirazu... |
| just because I’ve gotten weaker, doesn’t mean that you got stronger, does it? |
steph96 said: I`m still having trouble believing that kaneki took down Eto single handedly. I really can`t wait to see kaneki meet Arima after this. He didnt thats the problem. Eto was kinda crazy in that fight she was doing absolutely nothing. That whole fight seems like a big joke for her. |
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HIPSTERMOONCAT said: Kaneki will be the final villain Nah that's reserved for the one and only:  |
| That last page though. |
| Its pretty obvious to me that Kaneki saved Tsukiyama there, he realized Kanae will jump to save him, if he wanted to he could've stop Kanae from doing anything. |
Acernos said: bobzanny said: Wait are you saying that Kaneki taking Urie out of the squad leader position back in chapter 8 was the right thing to do? Because it clearly didn't let Urie man up until it was too late. Urie was always the one meant to be in charge of the Q's but Kaneki, while being delusional as Sasaki, didn't know/didn't want to be harsh on Urie and the end result is someone unfit, Shirazu, being squad leader and the eventual sacrifice. Urie was totally inappropriate to be leader as Sasaki pointed out various errors that Urie commented, and Sasaki did it thinking it would be an opportunity to Urie improve, this is not to act as a mentor? Depending on how Urie interpret what Sasaneki said in the current chapter, it can get several tragic points, as he follows a path similar to Shironeki, but it remains to be seen. and I think you are forgetting some points, Urie has been under development for several chapters, you remember the chapter where he breaks down mentally? it is in this chapter that he admits he always tries to take the easy way out and talk all he really thinks. and how his relationship with Mutsuki improved after that? he stopped sabotage Shirazu and was happy that Sasaki was recognizing his skills. and during the raid, Urie demonstrated a genuine concern for Saiko when she was attacked by Noro and even worked together with Mutsuki in fighting ghouls. Urie was already in development even before Shirazu die, the problem is that many fans only give attention to the "Promotion, Promotion, Promotion". All the development that Urie has gotten these last few chapters, which I have loved and has turned around my impression of Urie, were from his squadmates not Sasaki's teachings/mentoring. Sasaki was a bad mentor-instead of getting gritty and putting Urie in his place and having 1 on 1 sessions and drilling him on what he needs to do to improve, he demotes him and puts Shirazu in charge, another bad move. Shirazu was never capable of being the Q's squad leader and it showed in each subsequent arc until his death. The Sasaki personality would've consoled Urie and may have even put some of the blame on himself for not making it in time. The current Kaneki told Urie straight up that Urie shouldn't misplace his anger and guilt to Sasaki-instead Urie needs to man up from each point onward to make sure that this does no happen again. |
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| Okay, here's why everything you're saying is wrong (I'm joking). The probably with dear Cookie-chan here, is that he has issues, stemming from his father's death. This manifests as a desire of power (UriexPromotion). Recently, he'd been getting over that (Most explicitly seen with Shirazu gets credit), and has been valuing the team over power. Now, Kaneki comes in with his "idgaf let me die" attitude, tells Urie "it's your fault" (his "weakness"), and ditches the squad. He just told Urie to seek power again. Like Shironeki did. AKA: "Kaneki makes shitty life choices, and impresses upon others to do the same". |
kirakiradethsDec 12, 2015 7:27 PM
KaiserNazrin said: Its pretty obvious to me that Kaneki saved Tsukiyama there, he realized Kanae will jump to save him, if he wanted to he could've stop Kanae from doing anything. Yeah, he obviously waited for Kanae to save him. But even though Tsukiyama will hate him for a life, he forced Kanae to kill herself. |
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| Shirazu's death is confirmed T_T. Kanae's dead T_T. Tsukiyama is alive, i think :). Harsh language used, Kaneki sure is back (kinda want Haise back don't kill me). 5/5 |
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| Got mad goosebumps when Kaneki verbally layethed the smacketh down on my boy Urie's candy ass. |
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| That was splendid one! I have no idea why you people bitch so much about Kaneki's behavior. He was a shitty mentor? Nah, he was a harsh one, but I believe that he's decisions were right. Nobody is able to foresee the future, he had no idea that Shirazu will die. The whole thing about being mentor is guiding people - giving them opportunities for growing stronger. Urie changed because of his squad, but his squad started working this way was because of changing leader. Shirazu was the one to kick Saiko out of her room; he was also the one who scolded Urie at least once. Shirazu also has grown up as a person because of becoming squad leader; he could become good investigator if they didn't fight Noro. I also don't blame Kaneki for these "harsh words" - I believe that they were even harsher for himself. He told Urie what he believe is true for everyone - for Kaneki who wasn't able to save so many dear ones, and for Urie who couldn't save Shirazu, and for Tsukiyama who couldn't save Kanae... I also believe that this was about Kaneki who wasn't able to save Shuu - he had to sacrifice him (his life or their friendship) for sake of others. Probably for Hinami. Besides, I'm not sure if Kaneki isn't sure that Tsukiyama's family worked with Aogiri from the start. Kanae and Eto' saving Shuu were really suspicious. Karren's death was so sad that I still want to believe that she survives. She's one of Eto's children, isn't she? She was able to regenerate when Ken cut her head off... |
| As usual Ishida-sensei...A beautiful & cruel chapter |
| How the hell does Ken just get a. Promotion to Associate after dealing with the Owl alone? Poor Urie tho. The words Kaneki told him will weigh really heavy on him. The KarenxShu scene was really nice. RIP Karen ;_; What will happen to Shu now? What's Ken planning by staying there? Save Hinami Plz >.< |
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| "All losses in this world are due to lack of ability." Holy... Didn't Jason tell this to Kaneki in the original Tokyo Ghoul? |
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| Now would be a good time for MOFO Arima to come and teach Edgeneki who's the true alpha. |
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