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Oct 2, 2015 6:41 AM
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I see lots of kids saying they like this and that like it makes them special! but does it?

BONUS: Do you have a favorite old rock song? mine would be fear the reaper by blue oyster occult! I love the solo ;)
Oct 2, 2015 7:08 AM
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Well sort of, they're finding their own things instead of listening to whatever the radio/TV is telling them to listen to.
Oct 2, 2015 7:09 AM
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Rock is old? Try classical.
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mayukachan said:
Rock is old? Try classical.
That's like saying a fridge from the 50s is not old haha
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mayukachan said:
Rock is old? Try classical.
also what are your favorite pieces? Some of my favorites are mozarts requiem, four seasons and blue danube waltz :)

I like opera too my fav would be ave maria!
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Oct 2, 2015 8:16 AM
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No it doesn't because plenty of people such as myself prefer older music.
Oct 2, 2015 8:21 AM
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No it doesn't. I generally dislike people that think listening to a certain type of music makes them better than others. It's misguided conceitedness. You wanna know why? Because it's just listening to music. Any dumbass can listen to either old, sophisticated, or more "complicated" music but that's all it is; listening. Some of these arrogant kids somehow think that an activity that requires no talent whatsoever warrants special treatment or recognition from others. Congratulations, you're capable of doing something that every normal human being is capable of.

I've seen so many people pat themselves on the back for sitting on their asses while listening to classical, old rock, or jazz or whatever. OH WOW, YOURE SO SPECIAL.

You're not special. Get over yourself.

/endrant


That's basically my answer.
Oct 2, 2015 8:22 AM
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No it doesn't.
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Oct 2, 2015 8:59 AM

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Panzertreee said:
mayukachan said:
Rock is old? Try classical.
also what are your favorite pieces? Some of my favorites are mozarts requiem, four seasons and blue danube waltz :)


rach's piano concerto 2
debussy's arabesque
mozard's oboe concerto in C
dvorak's new world symphony

my current favs ><
Oct 2, 2015 9:51 AM

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No mostly it makes you old.

However my devotion to obscure 80s pop trash has given me cult following of about 6 or 7 people.
Oct 2, 2015 10:41 AM
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Panzertreee said:
Does having a preference for old music somehow make you relevant/different? I see lots of kids saying they like this and that like it makes them special! but does it?

It just means that they appreciate something that others don't, that's all..

Panzertreee said:
Do you have a favorite old rock song?

Not sure what you mean by "old rock", but I do like many "classic rock" songs
and albums from 60-70's by famous British bands like The Beatles, Led Zeppelin,
Hendrix Experience, Cream, Pink Floyd and some others.. Thought I don't
listen to them anymore. Today I don't even bother to search music by genre
and it doesn't matter for me whether it's rock, pop, polka or dub techno..
As long as I like what I hear, it's all nice and can be useful to listen.
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Panzertreee said:
I see lots of kids saying they like this and that like it makes them special! but does it?

BONUS: Do you have a favorite old rock song? mine would be fear the reaper by blue oyster occult! I love the solo ;)


It doesn't in the slightest old doesn't equal good there are plenty of subpar musical groups and singers back in the day also. The special kid imo is the kid who can sift through the deluge of substandard shite outthere and find the interesting, thought provoking music regardless of the date of its creation
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Oct 2, 2015 3:26 PM

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Nah.

A lot of my friends, myself included, are into 60-70's rock. Still not the majority, but there's quite a few.
Oct 2, 2015 5:17 PM

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I think you should just listen to what makes you happy.

I listen to a lot of different genres from different time periods for different reasons. I listen to j-rock a lot because it reminds me of the anime shows I watched that helped me get through very dark times. I listen to a lot of different types of metal depending on my mood.

I also like modern classical and movie scores/epic music.

The point is, you shouldn't feel hipster because you listen to music genres that the majority of the public don't listen to. I won't lie, I do feel like that sometimes but its mainly because I don't like music with no instrumental value and I find mainstream music types to be very annoying.
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I've got 3 terabytes of 60's pre-ambient. I'm 21 and studying music at a university. This semester alone I will be performing in 4 operas, 3 orchestral concerts, and a wind ensemble concert among numerous recitals I'm playing for (one of which is today). I'm writing a paper for my music history class on {insert band name} and my music history professor is absolutely in love with them now. I'm different because of my preference for old music
Oct 3, 2015 11:29 AM

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If you act all "This is REAL music, all modern music is garbage!" then you're just an ignorant elitist pretentious douche. If you don't act like that also no, liking old music doesn't make you special it just makes you a person that likes old music. Even more so when those people are listening to crappy rock bands (that have HUGE fan bases) and entry-level classical composers (which have HUGE fan bases). It's not "unique" or "special" to like things that are a household name, if they're old or not. Those elitist ignorant 13 year olds on Youtube suck and I hope if I ever have kids none of them are like that. Also classic rock makes me cringe, I hate it.

But also, does it make you relevant? That's circumstantial. For example, I love 80s J-pop and if I met a cute girl that also loves 80s J-pop it now makes me relevant. Example 2, commenting on a thread on an anime forum, not relevant at all.



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nope. It just makes you look like a tryhard.
Oct 3, 2015 12:21 PM

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Actually, it takes no effort whatsoever to like "old" music.

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entry-level classical composers


*cringe*

It's great to get deep into classical but the most popular composers are so because they're great. That's how classical is. I'd agree that say, Chopin and Tchaikovsky are somewhat on the "lite" side, but they're still great.
Oct 3, 2015 12:28 PM

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People that say that they were born in the wrong generation are the ones that piss me off. There was always crappy music in every generation, they are just easily spread nowadays due to the internet.
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No it doesn't. I generally dislike people that think listening to a certain type of music makes them better than others. It's misguided conceitedness. You wanna know why? Because it's just listening to music. Any dumbass can listen to either old, sophisticated, or more "complicated" music but that's all it is; listening. Some of these arrogant kids somehow think that an activity that requires no talent whatsoever warrants special treatment or recognition from others. Congratulations, you're capable of doing something that every normal human being is capable of.

I've seen so many people pat themselves on the back for sitting on their asses while listening to classical, old rock, or jazz or whatever. OH WOW, YOURE SO SPECIAL.

You're not special. Get over yourself.

/endrant


That's basically my answer.

Ditto !

Altairius said:

Shimapan-chan said:
entry-level classical composers


*cringe*

It's great to get deep into classical but the most popular composers are so because they're great. That's how classical is. I'd agree that say, Chopin and Tchaikovsky are somewhat on the "lite" side, but they're still great.

Yeah, I agree.
A lot of my friends who can play just a little bit of piano often play the first measures of Bach's first prelude from the WTC.
Does that make Bach an entry-level classical composer ?

Pretty much everyone knows Ravel's Boléro.
However, I do not feel guilty or ashamed to say he's my favourite composer, and I never considered him as an entry-level classical composer.
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Bakr said:
People that say that they were born in the wrong generation are the ones that piss me off. There was always crappy music in every generation, they are just easily spread nowadays due to the internet.
I kinda agree but I do think it's fair to say there's a huge difference in music now and music back then.
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Not really, people may look at you in a weird manner if you forget your earphones and are listening to some random 40's big band but then again these days people will look at you in a weird manner for anything.

Edit: Yes, I do have a favorite old rock song or more like a rock artist, I've yet to hear something from Chuck Berry that I can't endure hearing.
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Altairius said:
Actually, it takes no effort whatsoever to like "old" music.

Shimapan-chan said:
entry-level classical composers


*cringe*

It's great to get deep into classical but the most popular composers are so because they're great. That's how classical is. I'd agree that say, Chopin and Tchaikovsky are somewhat on the "lite" side, but they're still great.


I never said they were bad, it's just the equivalent of someone acting like they like noise but only listen to Merzbow. They shouldn't act like they appreciate the genre more than anything if they haven't even taken the time to explore it past entry-level.



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Is someone special for frequenting the local diner instead of a convenient fast food restaurant?

Listening to music is another form of consumption, the manner in which it's done can be savvy, not so much special.
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It makes you a person that prefers old music

Nothing more, nothing less
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Shimapan-chan said:
Altairius said:
Actually, it takes no effort whatsoever to like "old" music.



*cringe*

It's great to get deep into classical but the most popular composers are so because they're great. That's how classical is. I'd agree that say, Chopin and Tchaikovsky are somewhat on the "lite" side, but they're still great.


I never said they were bad, it's just the equivalent of someone acting like they like noise but only listen to Merzbow. They shouldn't act like they appreciate the genre more than anything if they haven't even taken the time to explore it past entry-level.


People who like noise should listen to Xenakis.
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The 40's music; It speaks to me.
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Protaku94 said:
The 40's music; It speaks to me.
Lol I like the 50s better haha there goes my baby and long tall sally are my favs
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Altairius said:
Shimapan-chan said:
entry-level classical composers


*cringe*

It's great to get deep into classical but the most popular composers are so because they're great. That's how classical is. I'd agree that say, Chopin and Tchaikovsky are somewhat on the "lite" side, but they're still great.

Agreed, and also, you can like the popular classical artists but they also have underrated/unknown works.
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It doesn't. Back when I was in high school however, a lot of people who listened (or pretended to) 70s and 80s music thought they were special snowflakes because of it.
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Gregorian chant, and folk music is older than classical.
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Hannibal_Lecter said:
Gregorian chant, and folk music is older than classical.


Only song that comes to mind from gregorian chant is dies irae, pretty soothing
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Hannibal_Lecter said:
Gregorian chant, and folk music is older than classical.


Give me some chant recommendations please.
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Music is completely subjective. Personally, I don't really care what someone listens to if it's what they enjoy. Doesn't matter if it's old or new.

Favorite old rock song? Blinded by the Light, and anything Pick Floyd...plus every old rock song that's popular nowadays. I can't choose. d:
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I guess that depends on the point of perspective. Few things make me roll my eyes as much as people listening to 'old' and different stuff just to stand out, and not for the sake of the music alone. This is shit that anti-mundane special snowflakes pull off. Don't get me wrong, I commend exploring old music, obscure stuff or tracks that don't have popular appeal, but do it for the music -- not because you want to stand out like a pretentious fucktool.

Fuck peer influences, fuck sticking to your razor-thin tastes, fuck not listening to music for the music's sake. Go on an adventure and explore your own sound, without worrying about what other people might think of your oh-so 'eclectic' and 'idiosyncratic' taste.
Oct 4, 2015 6:25 AM

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No but some of these guys can be hipsters (saying no mal names)
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We're all different. It doesn't make you relevant or special though. Listen to whatever you want as long as you're not one of those guys who sits around and says stuff like "I'm 16 and listen to the Beatles! I hate modern music!" People like this are just terrible
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mayukachan said:
Altairius said:


*cringe*

It's great to get deep into classical but the most popular composers are so because they're great. That's how classical is. I'd agree that say, Chopin and Tchaikovsky are somewhat on the "lite" side, but they're still great.

Agreed, and also, you can like the popular classical artists but they also have underrated/unknown works.


Underrated in relation to their well-known works, but not in the true sense of the word. All of their works are well documented, studied, and also regularly performed.

People are willing to play subpar Beethoven sonatas and Chopin concerti during popular events like BBC proms when there are far more valuable and worthwhile works from the same genre/form (genres within classical..not genres in general) by obscure composers. That's why I can never consider a work by a major composer "underrated" cause chances are, they are usually over-estimated simply because it was by say Beethoven.

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Yeah, I agree
A lot of my friends who can play just a little bit of piano often play the first measures of Bach's first prelude from the WTC.
Does that make Bach an entry-level classical composer ?

Pretty much everyone knows Ravel's Boléro.
However, I do not feel guilty or ashamed to say he's my favourite composer, and I never considered him as an entry-level classical composer.


I think entry level in the sense of that's what people are usually introduced to when they get into classical music. That, and it's also "musically accessible." Which means...catchy and easy to remember and understand tunes/melodic lines. Most popular (among the general public) are very melodic works. Examples include but not limited to ravel's pavane, nolero, excerpts from Tchaikovsky's ballets like swan lake or the nutcracker, chopin nocturnes, Beethoven fur elise etc etc etc

all entry level works are popular, but not all popular works are entry level. Example:

Late scriabin sonatas. Many pianists would agree that these works made a considerable contribution to piano literature, but you would never see them in a best of classical CD. :( Too bad.

Does that make Bach an entry-level classical composer ?


No but it can be an "entry-level" composition, in the sense that that's what beginners usually learn because the notes are easy to read and it's within (sort of) their technical range.


Personally I wouldn't give the prelude to a beginner because though it may be technically easy, they haven't learned the proper mechanics such as articulation and musically they're still very inexperienced. When people say it's easy to play, I usually translate it to "it's easy to butcher." It takes an incredible pianist with years of experience to make the wtc c amjor prelude sound interesting and fresh.
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No it doesn't. I generally dislike people that think listening to a certain type of music makes them better than others. It's misguided conceitedness. You wanna know why? Because it's just listening to music. Any dumbass can listen to either old, sophisticated, or more "complicated" music but that's all it is; listening. Some of these arrogant kids somehow think that an activity that requires no talent whatsoever warrants special treatment or recognition from others. Congratulations, you're capable of doing something that every normal human being is capable of.

I've seen so many people pat themselves on the back for sitting on their asses while listening to classical, old rock, or jazz or whatever. OH WOW, YOURE SO SPECIAL.

You're not special. Get over yourself.

/endrant


That's basically my answer.


I agree with this, with a tiny caveat. Musicians, specifically good musicians(and music theory majors) simply because they are listening and processing the information differently than other people. I am not one of these people, but my friend was a touring musician at a couple points in his life and when he talks about music it's a completely different foreign thing than when most of society does.

~~~

As far as "classic" rock music goes, basically everything has been played to death and anything some can recommend that his considered very good, you've probably heard a 100 times(Baba O'Riley, Forunate Son, Bohemian Rhapsody, All Along the Watchtower, ect, ect). But if I were to recommend one album that I think is slightly underrated, Toys in the Attic by Aerosmith(Specifically, Sweet Emotion and the Title track). A song I feel gets probably less credit than it deserves is the live cut of Do You Feel Like I do? by Peter Frampton

~~~ As far as "entry-level classical" does Pachebel's Canon in D Major qualify?
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It's not an all that unusual preference. 70s and 80s, in particular, are popular "older" decades to like.

The root word of "pretentious" is "pretend" (actually, even further, it's "tend", but that's beside the point). It's pretentious or hipsterish to like something first and foremost for the sake of being different or because it makes you look a certain way (usually superior by your personal perception). But it's the mentality that's pretentious, not the taste. Like and listen to whatever you genuinely like; be genuine. And if someone accuses you of being pretentious because of what you genuinely like, fuck 'em because they honestly have no idea what they're talking about and are just throwing around fancy words to be insulting.

(Ugh, I've seen "pretentious" hurled at people far too much as an insult)
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It's not an all that unusual preference. 70s and 80s, in particular, are popular "older" decades to like.

The root word of "pretentious" is "pretend" (actually, even further, it's "tend", but that's beside the point). It's pretentious or hipsterish to like something first and foremost for the sake of being different or because it makes you look a certain way (usually superior by your personal perception). But it's the mentality that's pretentious, not the taste. Like and listen to whatever you genuinely like; be genuine. And if someone accuses you of being pretentious because of what you genuinely like, fuck 'em because they honestly have no idea what they're talking about and are just throwing around fancy words to be insulting.

(Ugh, I've seen "pretentious" hurled at people far too much as an insult)


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I love this answer.

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Is someone special for frequenting the local diner instead of a convenient fast food restaurant?

Listening to music is another form of consumption, the manner in which it's done can be savvy, not so much special.

Plus, just because you listen to older music does not make you superior in any way rather that it's a show signs of critical thinking not to gobble up whatever the industry puts on your plate.
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I think music transcends relevance unlike other mediums so old and new doesn't apply as much even if the quality is different some people just make it similar quality these days and you would think it's done back then.

I like looking at old games as I find most modern ones very bland and lacking the things, old music I find does a pretty good job regardless of when it came out just like certain quotes or poems or such.

Sure some stuff was based around what it was at the time with lyrics and certain instruments/vibes but some do sound like something from the past just done in the 2010s because they have carried them on nowadays. Whether inspiration, literally taking a few samples and remixing it or otherwise. Or cover just existing.

I am not really into music with lyrics or certain genres but don't think they are worse or shouldn't exist old or not I just prefer different ways it's presented but still respect it. I like certain old music, old games, old movies/tv shows.

I do think mainstream music these days is pretty flat and the lyrics don't connect with me, but each their own on their preferences.

I usually don't mind Disco old or new, Swing old or new, not into classical or orchestras I have no interest in, most blend together whether old or new. I know some but when it's used so much and mostly common notes/instruments are used I couldn't tell you and I don't feel anything towards it.

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