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Jan 17, 2015 7:28 AM

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Saskee said:
At first i liked Daedalus and hated Raul,but now it's opposite.
Yeah, I felt the same way. Poor Raul :(

Well, only one episode left, what will happen? I will watch to find out!
Apr 26, 2015 10:13 PM

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Wow. It's hard to describe how amazing this episode was. Such a beautiful mix of complexity and all sorts of emotions. Sadness, love, awe, mystery...
May 7, 2015 7:18 PM

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anciah said:

I agree.

but ... it's still kinda confusing for me, but finally more is known.
Daedalus wanted Re-l only for himself - ho selfish :<
aaand ... really. I think the only person Raul had loved was Pino );


Raul's story was really heart breaking. Imagine having seen your family murdered in front of you, your child (Pino) taken by the very person you believe was the killer. Now I can understand why his obsession to capture or kill Vincent was personal, in the end it messed his mind pretty badly. He kinda lost it in the later episodes but you'd empathize with Raul's plight. I was hoping that he'd be re-united with Pino even though temporarily but his fate was much cruel. He was not given that chance to see his "daughter"one last time and Raul is one of the many tragedies of this anime.
Holy crap were we supposed to know that was his family who died in the mall the whole time? Welp, that makes his character make more sense lol.
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May 17, 2015 11:36 AM
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poor Raul and Pino :c

i wanna see Vincents human look once again i miss it
also is the other self of ergo is supposed to be another "psychological" self of an existing form? i dunno
Jun 13, 2015 10:33 AM

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The final plot twist got me a tad confused but I'm hoping that said confusion will be cleared up in the next episode.

Holy shit this is an interesting and compelling show!
Take care of yourself

Jul 22, 2015 2:36 AM

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Wow, this episode was powerful. I want to see the last episode _now_ but I can't. Damn.
Nov 6, 2015 9:18 PM

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damn...
Jan 2, 2016 5:33 AM

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Very good episode , Ep 21&22 were great .
Feb 4, 2016 8:41 AM

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Hmmm so is that the perfect one..?
The last episode and we'll finally see a clear picture.
I just wanna see Vincent happy though.
Sad life he has there.
Feb 25, 2016 6:01 AM

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I actually thought Raul died while looking at Pino from the windows of the room he died in. We only got an entrance view of the room, they never showed the insides of it, so its not wrong to assume that there were windows in there. Also, they showed a far-off image of Pino, so I thought they were making us think that Raul is looking at Pino one last time before dying. Sure, he might have wondered if that's really Pino or not, he might have just went like "oh its a little girl (and she reminds me of Pino)," something which is tragic on its own. He's got one messed up tragic story though, great character.
Mar 11, 2016 6:17 PM

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So sad. I never wanted to cry so bad from an anime:(
Nov 18, 2016 6:55 AM

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Dear author, who wrote the story of this anime
You're really a monster
Why? Paul Creed isn't that bad?
At least let him meet Pino first :(
Pino must be really sad now

And the one that's pretty bad, Daedalus still alive and kicking
That's just unfair :(

Oh well last episode, the conclusion.. This won't end well
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May 17, 2017 10:22 PM

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"We weep for a bird's cry, but not for a fish's blood. Blessed are those with a voice.If the dolls also had voices, they would have screamed, "I didn't want to become human." "

I felt bad for Kristeva, she must have been sad, not knowing the feeling yet feeling the pain and losing the reason you existed, yet not being able to express the pain.
Yeah I know the quote doesn't fit here much, but they still can't express their feeling like humans can so it just hit me.
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May 23, 2017 7:04 AM

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I wasn't too attached to Raul, but the final shot of him was beautiful in a sad way.

flame2frost said:
"We weep for a bird's cry, but not for a fish's blood. Blessed are those with a voice.If the dolls also had voices, they would have screamed, "I didn't want to become human." "

I felt bad for Kristeva, she must have been sad, not knowing the feeling yet feeling the pain and losing the reason you existed, yet not being able to express the pain.
Yeah I know the quote doesn't fit here much, but they still can't express their feeling like humans can so it just hit me.

I think it fits pretty well.
Jan 19, 2018 2:35 PM

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Only reason I cared about Raul's death was because Pino cared about him. The fool brought this upon himself.
Mar 18, 2018 5:09 PM

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Poor Raul, done in by a piece of glass.

5/5
Apr 29, 2018 7:54 PM
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*Raul stumbles toward broken glass*
“He should be fine. It doesn’t look it’ll hurt him that much.”

*Gets fucking impaled and pretty much sawed in half*
“Oh.”
May 18, 2018 8:09 PM

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Wait, so Proxy 1 and Ergo Proxy are separate.
How did Lil figured out that he's not the true creator?
Also, it seem to imply that clone Lil was crushing Daedalus' hands and maybe kill him. That'd be nice. That little boy is a creep. Probably worse than Raul.

How long has Proxy 1 been sitting on that throne? What's gonna happen to Pino? Will we get more Lil fanservice?


Apr 3, 2019 12:15 AM
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we finally come to an end 1 episode to go


Apr 15, 2019 8:30 PM

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I am really sad for Raul's end, i hate him in the beginning but he was improving in the time T-T
Daedalus is the true motherfucker here!
Besides that i am truly confuse in all this anime :|
Feb 12, 2020 5:48 PM

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Even in the penultimate episode the story keeps being confusing. I hope everything is made clear at the end...
Apr 26, 2020 8:33 PM

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PLEASE CAN YOU STOP THE NOISE I'M TRYING TO GET SOME REST
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Dec 19, 2020 3:21 AM
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I'm so fucking confused!!
What a pathetic way to die, I feel so bad, I wanted him to see Pino even if for just a moment
Jan 14, 2021 2:45 PM
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hard to empathise with Raul wanting to see Pino again when he barely interacted with her in any fatherly capacity.

though, i suppose that the the last few minutes of someone's life are their most truest - and it just so happened that his instinctual father wishes to be reunited with his child came to light.

at his core raul was a good man, albeit a misguided one.
Mar 11, 2021 11:51 AM

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I feel so bad for Raul, he didn't even see Pino before dying
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May 11, 2021 8:09 AM
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BlufaceBaby said:
PLEASE CAN YOU STOP THE NOISE I'M TRYING TO GET SOME REST

I swear, this anime has some of the best fitting OP and ED songs, I never skipped them.
Funnily enough, I'm rewatching this after 6 years because I stumbled upon a OP montage. It's definitely aged well, and I got so much more out of it second time around.
Jul 17, 2021 3:23 AM

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even when Daedalus created a clone of Re-L he still gets cucked by Vincent lmao
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Oct 3, 2021 12:10 PM
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It's sad Pino and her dad didn't meet :(
Jul 11, 2022 1:33 PM
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Damn Raul didn't get to see Pino before dying like that :'(
Though that end wow, that's quite confusing, who's the 3rd one? Another Ergo Proxy who's the real one this time? This is really mysterious, I hope we'll get the answers in the last episode!
Aug 27, 2022 10:27 AM

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So sad that Raul died just before being with Pino again.

Also the reveal of Proxy One was cool. It was to be expected that it was himself again, but seeing him as a proxy with hus normal human face was very cool.

Alright one more to go.
Sep 13, 2022 7:50 AM

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Raul finally kicked the bucket. Too bad he didn't get to see Pino in his last moments
Sep 29, 2022 8:14 AM
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another mindfucked episode
daedalus friendzoned 5ever
raul's death was brutal but it's implied that he did see her from afar which is why he turns his head around and starts crying
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Oct 22, 2022 11:48 AM
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It was mindblowing. And the best is probably yet to come.
Nov 19, 2022 3:25 AM
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You may count it as exposition, but I for one am glad that we at least get SOME answers of the more straight-forward variety, rather than being borderline cryptic and leaving things up to the interpretation of the viewer. However even as we near the final episode of this story, more questions arise than answers.


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Mar 23, 2023 5:39 PM

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One episode to go, lets finish this.
Jul 22, 2023 7:10 PM
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I don’t normally catalogue shows onto my account until I finish them. I’m only making this post because of this episode. This episode is one of the greatest things I have ever seen. I wish I could describe everything I felt watching this episode and I won’t be able to. I’m glad I was finally able to experience this amazing anime.
Jul 24, 2023 9:45 AM

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Never thought I'd feel for Raul....
Dec 8, 2023 8:03 PM

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Poor Daedalus got cuckolded twice, and by a clone he created as a coping mechanism for the first instance of it nonetheless. Raul also kicked the bucket, which was a long time coming, after all he did.


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Dec 30, 2023 5:01 AM
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intergalactic levels of mind fvckery


which episode did I not watch, someone please tell me😭😭😭💀💀💀
Jan 12, 10:28 AM

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Damn Raul didn't see Pino
Mar 24, 3:52 PM
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Gotta say, This is the most confused I've ever been with the series, watching this episode. Half way through my mind started going blank so I had to watch scenes more than once to process it. I feel sorry for Raul, having died that way, right before meeting Pino.
So we finally get some straight-to-facts dialogue this episode. Let's keep it going for the final act~
@seita I never rewinded so many times before in an epsiode in my life
Mar 24, 4:06 PM
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Im bringing in some of the things i noticed to sort out the confusing storyline. Some things were already pointed out. here i go:

Proxy One
- He has been controlling (deceiving) Vincent (and everyone else) the whole time.
- He killed Regent, not Ergo. It was Proxy One that ripped his hand off. Its clear from the flashes during Re-L's realization that there is a mastermind behind all this.
- He killed the Amnesia guy in Mosc. back then he was too quiet and the same goes for when he appeared in the previous episode. He didnt say a word during the whole time!
- voice : We heard his voice in the bookstore episode where he was manipulating Vincent (for what reason i dont know). Also, when he was killing the regent he was laughing and it was the same voice. That was not Vincent, im sure of it now.

Monad
- Saved Daedalus by deflecting the bullet when Raul was going to shot him. She didnt do it for him though... This is solid confirmation that white Re-L is Monad and that she is a Proxy.

Daedalus
- He could be thought of as losing his mind. but is it like that? Raul points out that he continues to look away from reality and escapes to his dreamworld with his Re-L substitute. The truth is he was never looking at the world. He was attempting to create his perfect Re-L since. He also put the AWD (or something) plan into action despitete crazy risks. He never cared about anything other than his ideal Re-L which is his reason for living.
Daedalus answers to Raul "Fellow citizens, throw things away". This all means that it is not he the insane one, but the whole Romdo philosophy. He is simply finally living the 'fellow citizen' way of life. Who cares about tomorrow.

Raul
- Daedalus points out Raul's role is over and is an eyesore. The way he is trying to persist is not beautiful anymore. He hits the nail.
Raul: "I will not give in to depravity."
Twisted as it sounds, Raul is perhaps the most sane of them all, still trying to end Romdo's dependancy on its creator.
Well, in his last moments, his deepest desire comes to surface as he gives up on the fight and shifts his remaining focus on Pino.


Id like to conclude the personalities of these two great characters:

Raul
is the perfectionist looking for a elegant solution to problems in front of him. He seeks the big picture and tries to gain control. Not for anyone's sake really. He is a man of principle, determined to finish things through. When faced with a hopeless situation, he continues to struggle. He doesnt give in to despair and fights to correct the wrongs in the world. Correct that which goes against his principle.
In a way he is a slave of his principality.
His reason of existence is to bring order into the chaos.

Daedalus
Is much more self centered that Raul. He is more aware and focused on his ultimate goal than any other character in the show. He knows what he wants, never reveals it to anyone and is slowly working to realize his ideal dream. He doesnt care about anything unrelated to his goal.
Compared to Raul, who has broad principles and lives by them to fulfill them, Daedalus is narrowly focused individual able to live for a single small thought. He blocks any outside elements that could discrupt him by concentrating on his perfect ideal that he works on so much to bring to reality. Relatively speaking he doesnt have anything. He throws everything away because nothing real can measure up to his ideal. Its sad if you think about it.
His reason of existence is to create the tiny piece of his ideal for himself to live in an eternal happiness.


I find the characters well thought out ad interesting to observe. I admire Raul's touch for abstract elegance, but at the same time i have a hard time resisting Daedalus's ability to focus on his treasure.
@sspit I have some questions ?

Isn’t monad proxy the one eyed proxy at the begging of the series ? This whole time when they refer to monad, this is who I think of. What’s is her purpose and I don’t get the reference to monad at all ?

Proxy 1 - he’s been in the backround and takes control of both Vincent and ergo proxy? And he only appeared in the bookstore and now ?

For daedelus,- his ideal world is being with Lil Mayar? So the moment Lil Mayar is drawn to Vincent, this is when he starts his down spiral ? So he’s just some freak genius that’s obsessed with rei? And rei substitute blocked raul from shooting Dadeleus ?
Mar 24, 4:17 PM
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I wasn't too attached to Raul, but the final shot of him was beautiful in a sad way.

flame2frost said:
"We weep for a bird's cry, but not for a fish's blood. Blessed are those with a voice.If the dolls also had voices, they would have screamed, "I didn't want to become human." "

I felt bad for Kristeva, she must have been sad, not knowing the feeling yet feeling the pain and losing the reason you existed, yet not being able to express the pain.
Yeah I know the quote doesn't fit here much, but they still can't express their feeling like humans can so it just hit me.

I think it fits pretty well.
@LeeTailor everyone is so upset about Raul dying and here’s me trying to figure out what the hell is going on
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for me, the most emotional episode. I feel so bad for Pino and Raul. also, I'm really hyped up for the last episode, cause it could be a nice sum up
Sep 3, 11:13 PM

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I love how the episode starts with manacle laughter.

The two Re-ls meeting was interesting. They're both so hot and sexy!!

but like..still no mention of why there is a younger Re-l. Also, the last time we saw the other Re-l she was much younger. What? I get Deadalus did it because he wants Re-l to love him, but still. What and why?

and why wasn't Re-l more upset? Why wasn't there more of a reaction?

I noticed during one scene, Deadalus's Re-l seemed uncomfortable by him touching her. Good girl, he doesn't deserve you.

I'm still annoyed the stalking statues were never properly explained.

I felt so bad for Raul and not being able to see Pino again.

Okay...I didn't think this show could get anymore confusing, but now there's another Vincent? I'm kinda glad there's only one more episode, because this show has been a cluster to keep up with.
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