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Jan 10, 2015 4:54 AM

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Here's my interpretation of what happened.

I think she definitely cheated on him after the marriage (hence the ring on her finger), but she regretted it immediately afterwards (notice how she covers her face in regret and clenches the pillow). Her feelings of guilt were also why she was "out of it lately", as the husband said, not just her pregnancy (again covering her face in the pillow while sitting next to her husband).

I think she genuinely loved him and was pregnant with his baby before the marriage and she cheated on after the marriage because her husband was likely acting cold towards her because of his doubt, after he overheard her friends talking at the wedding.

The person her friends talked about was indeed Machida Yuuki and Machiko (there was a place at the wedding reserved for Machida Yuuki shown during the ED), further showing that Machiko married her husband out of love (along with the happy flashbacks shown when she mistakenly threw the dart at his heart).

This is the reason why Decim was only surprised after she said she was only with him for the money. She probably had this outburst to get rid of her guilt and tell him what he wanted to hear, while making sure that he goes to heaven.

What I was not pleased with was the final punishment. I can understand why she would be sent to the void (assuming it is negative) for cheating, but I think the husband should be punished equally. He actually tried to kill his wife (although she was already dead) for cheating on him, which in my eyes is even worse than actually cheating.

However given that he was mentally destroyed by the game and her revelations, I can see how his behavior can be justified to a certain extent, but in my book attempting to kill a defenseless human being deserves severe punishment no matter the circumstances.

TLDR: The wife cheated and regretted it, but the husband should have also gone to the void.
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Shadowsnake777 said:
Holy crap! That was intense. I felt sorry for the guy a little bit when he was going to hell and then when i was found out she really WAS having an affair I started freaking out how the bad one in the relationship was going to heaven. O_O
But to all of you asking if she really did have an affair, when they are being sent BACK into the elevators it pans up and look at the faces. The chick went to hell and the guy went to heaven. (also said that after the credits)


What? The woman was sent into the void and the man was sent to reincarnation. We don't know whether those are synonyms for hell/heaven or different possibilities for afterlife, right?
Jan 10, 2015 4:55 AM
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Can someone help me understand the end? After they get in the elevators what happened? I hear that the guy gets reincarnated or something but i didnt see that (couldve missed it). Also, was the chick lying or not I really couldnt tell. Kinda confusing but interesting series.
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Jan 10, 2015 4:56 AM
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I dunno why people make it seem like a debate when Machiko clearly admitted to cheating on Zoro I mean her husband. Although I believe that the husband was the "bad guy" in the relationship afterall due to him behaving in a very abusive manner regardless if she cheated or not. I mean there was a part when she accidentally hit the dart and he felt like getting revenge on her, like wtf bro?
Jan 10, 2015 4:57 AM

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Holybum said:
Cheating bitch deserved tat


Wonder if she actually cheated though>
Tbh I thought she did that claim sarcastically because of how disappointed she was with her husband being so doubtful and showing no trust in her actions, as well as the fact that it was there baby. Also because mister whitehead looked at her with such a surprising look.
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Jan 10, 2015 5:03 AM

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That was great, was about time for a series like this.
The setting, the atmosphere, the art, the animation, everything is really well done.
So far the best start of the season

Got really high expectations for this, I hope it doesn't disappoint
Jan 10, 2015 5:03 AM

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Holybum said:
Cheating bitch deserved tat


The husband deserved going to hell (or the void or whatever) just as much. He actually tried to kill the wife. How is cheating a greater offence than attempted murder (even though she was already dead)?
Jan 10, 2015 5:05 AM
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boredxxx said:
Can someone help me understand the end? After they get in the elevators what happened? I hear that the guy gets reincarnated or something but i didnt see that (couldve missed it). Also, was the chick lying or not I really couldnt tell. Kinda confusing but interesting series.


The dude was sent to hell (reincarnation) and the girl was sent to heaven (void). The chick did cheat on her husband because he was probably gonna abuse her anyways.

Edit: Watch Death Billiards which is the same as this one but is about a game of billiards and you´ll notice that heaven and hell is not the same as the heaven and hell we know from christianity but more from buddhism.
Jan 10, 2015 5:10 AM

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Hmm...very interesting haha. Coming into this completely blind as to what it actually was the OP felt very strange...almost as if they're trying to screw with your head right from the get-go. If I can get over those faces I think I'll quite enjoy this...them faces though...
Jan 10, 2015 5:14 AM

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Madhouse never disappoints

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Jan 10, 2015 5:18 AM

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I agree with Urek, this anime does have an ominous 'DeathNote' feel about it. The mind f**kery is awesome; I enjoyed how the assumed innocent was actually guilty. Looking forward to the rest of this series.
Jan 10, 2015 5:27 AM

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great opening, full of psychological.
Jan 10, 2015 5:37 AM
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Qoinzell said:
we saw that Machiko was ignoring her phone ringing and as Takashi had tried to answer her phone she recoiled while clutching her phone. Why didn't she just answer the phone herself or let her husband answer it? What was she hiding or what was her reasoning behind the action she had taken which could of been handled in a better way. Not only that, but she even hid the fact that was two weeks pregnant to him and only found out AFTER they had died. I can only conclude she was hiding her infidelity from her husband if we focus on these two points.


She's ten weeks pregnant. The phone call could have been literally anything that she didn't want to pick up as she indicated. They're in a convertible driving by the ocean, not exactly the most convenient place to take a phonecall, and then he suddenly reaches over to grab it. Her own flashbacks leading up to the point where she realizes they died indicate that she had a completely happy life with him, and she found out that she was pregnant before they got married. The sequencing has every indication that the child is the husbands.

Qoinzell said:
we can come to a conclusion by the wedding ring on her finger and the information about the newly weds dying while on their honeymoon that she is guilty of cheating on her husband while on her honeymoon. Although she had cheated, what reason could of drove her to commit infidelity when she appeared genuinely in love and at peace with Takashi? Takashi was never presented as someone who had mistreated her, but as someone who had inner lingering doubts about his wife's behavior after they had married. Did she really marry him because of the money? I don't know if I can buy that reasoning alone however.


Since she found out she was pregnant before they got married, and she's ten weeks pregnant, the cheating could have happened any time between the marriage and the actual honeymoon.

The husband was presented as constantly resentful towards his wife after hearing the conversation between her friends. This would obviously present itself throughout their daily life, with the strongest case in point being when he got them both killed trying to take her phone.

It could be implied that this was what drove her to cheat in the first place, but she clearly expresses regret in the one flashback of the cheating we're shown, as well as when she lies on the floor after he's dragged off of her. She takes a long pause to gather her composure before her long rant, and a contrast is shown between how much of an asshole the husband looks now compared to when she first met him. The whole rant itself seems rather over the top, and it does give itself off as a false testimony until you see the flashback of her actually cheating. What this seems to indicate is that she's guilty over cheating and doesn't want her husband to think that he killed his own child, which he is visibly upset about, to say the least.
Jan 10, 2015 5:38 AM
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babymilo91 said:
This was a good episode. Okay just to clarify, the woman really was having an affair right?


I don't think so, she was just after his money.

Great first episode i realy enjoyed it,dident like the OP that much but loved the ED,looking forward to more.
Jan 10, 2015 5:50 AM
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IllnessStL said:
babymilo91 said:
This was a good episode. Okay just to clarify, the woman really was having an affair right?


I don't think so, she was just after his money.

Great first episode i realy enjoyed it,dident like the OP that much but loved the ED,looking forward to more.

The way I interpreted it was that she actually did love him but she was cheated on in the past by someone who she used to love.
Jan 10, 2015 5:54 AM

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Madhouse is on a fucking roll, offering NGNL, Kiseijuu, etc. in 2014 and now this.

Except for Mahouka ofc. That was meh.
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Jan 10, 2015 6:01 AM

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for people here who think she didn't cheat...

machiko clearly cheated. just look at her silver ring on her left hand when she was sleeping with another man: http://i.imgur.com/MC4F5zr.jpg

she's wearing the same ring when takashi & herself were playing the darts game... the fact that she's wearing the same ring in this photo & in the darts game is proof that she was having an affair DURING her marriage. people normally have different rings if they remarry. why even wear a ring from a previous marriage? that just reminds one of a failed marriage & also the fact that one hasn't gotten over a past lover.
Jan 10, 2015 6:06 AM

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Glad to see Madhouse is continuing this. Real underrated piece of work.
Jan 10, 2015 6:08 AM

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Great episode, very promissing for this series, I hope they keep it up because I really enjoy mad house studio and the previous ova Death Billiards and I can see it becoming one of my new favourite anime.
The opening is perfect for the title-death Parade- the contrast between the content of the series and the op makes it even more interesting to watch. The symbols are pretty interesting too- the storybook and the two dolls- we will surely find out their meaning further on-
Jan 10, 2015 6:15 AM
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This episode looks very interesting and with a twist at the end.

And the beginning think about Tokyo Ghoul for a moment (The white hair and the bar.)
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Jan 10, 2015 6:18 AM

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Can't really get into the hype about this. The show apparently wants to show the true nature of people by pitting them against each other in such nasty circumstances although that's putting it wrong if you ask me as it's more like, trying to bring out the worst in them.

Anyway, just going along with it and um, is that it? Episodic or arcs of seeing how characters we can at best feel sorry for but never really care about behave when faced with games where their lives are at stake? Don't get me wrong here, I can see the appeal in that and even though it's not exactly my cup of tea, I'd still enjoy it to a degree but only if there's more to it. And if psychological mind-games are gonna be the appeal, then they'd better do a much better job than they did in this episode - it actually felt rather rushed, IMO. The couple's personal troubles were basically told in what was less than 5 mins. On the flip side, that might've been a good choice for a introductory episode...

Still, based on this premiere I can't help but compare this show to Jigoku Shoujo, which did better a better job even initially at presenting itself. And I'm not even that much of a fan of that show, only watched the 1st season and liked it, just not as much as others did.

Manga readers, is it going to follow a similar episodic pattern throughout it's run or at least a 2,maybe 3 ep arc format?
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MgMaster said:

Manga readers, is it going to follow a similar episodic pattern throughout it's run or at least a 2,maybe 3 ep arc format?


Manga? There's no manga. This is an anime original based on Death Billiards.
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Holy moly... at first I thought this was really disturbing and made me uncomfortable. Really reminded me of Saw movies. I thought the main characters would be some kind of sadists, but they're simply sending already-dead people to appropriate after-life locations. Great start, hopefully it will continue being interesting.
Jan 10, 2015 6:37 AM

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Wow. That was intense. At first we think that both really are in love with each other, just how it should be, but if it's about death, people show their true colors..

Jan 10, 2015 6:38 AM

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MgMaster said:

Manga readers, is it going to follow a similar episodic pattern throughout it's run or at least a 2,maybe 3 ep arc format?


Manga? There's no manga. This is an anime original based on Death Billiards.


I see, not familiar with that though.
Jan 10, 2015 6:41 AM
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MgMaster said:
eplipswich said:


Manga? There's no manga. This is an anime original based on Death Billiards.


I see, not familiar with that though.


Death Billiards is just an anime short. You can pretty much watch it.
Jan 10, 2015 6:54 AM

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After thinking a bit, i came to think a bit like you, i posted my thoughts in the other thread, "Heaven? Hell? Reincarnation? Void? The ". But in short, i think she did cheat but later regrets it and stopped meeting the other guy, maybe because she got pregnant from his husband or thought she was doing bad, or even that she got pregnant from the other guy, but actually loved his husband, dunno, snomething like that.
Jan 10, 2015 6:56 AM
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I have the feeling that she cheated after the wedding and pregantcy. In the flashbacks you could see they were happy

1) the man started to become jealous/hating on her with his faces.
2) the girls who the man overhear her are not talking about the woman cause you see in the credits a table with the same name on the invitation card.
3) in the flashback with the other man you see she is regretting it and she has her wedding band.
4) with point 3 i think she cheated because he was being cold/not so lovely against her and she needed warm and gave in and cheated.
5) so she cheated after the wedding and becoming pregnant. And in the end saved him cause she felt guilty.
Jan 10, 2015 7:13 AM
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Alright, so here is my take.

I think she cheated, but had regretted it, and was truly in love with her husband. That's the only way I can really explain how it seems like she's putting on an act at the end (Not looking at someone while talking to them is usually a sign of lying in anime, right? And she kind of goes overboard.), but we get some definite proof that she was cheating in the form of a flashback. I believe the Matchy story may actually be real, though at first I thought she was lying and actually talking about herself. I'm not exactly sure why she went to hell (I would agree there is some doubt brought about by the wording of where they were going as to which one is really hell, but how the masks look and how they switched kind of eliminates most of that doubt I think.), but I think that although she had tried to forget about her mistake, she saw him suffering and felt responsible and guilty, so she kind of made the choice to go to hell in the end. I'm not really sure how though....


Okay, yeah, now I'm inclined to believe that this is the case. It's so obviously clear that she really did love her husband.


Yeah, and it's interesting how you really have to watch her expressions to notice this. Once it is revealed that she actually cheated, it is easy to say, "That's why she didn't tell him about the baby earlier" or "Once he mentioned the name "Matchy" she finally saw an opportunity to make up a story, because she wasn't sure exactly what he had heard up to that point", but looking back at her expressions during those scenes tells a different story. She talks less convincingly when initially denying cheating (sweat drop) because she actually had, but then she denies the accusations more confidently once Matchy is brought up, because at that point it truly became a misunderstanding. And, it seems there is proof that Matchy was a real person, according to what people have said about the credits. Someone could say she was just a really good actor, but how she has trouble lying at the end seems to indicate she is not.
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I like how the guy with murderous intent got the good end while the poor women who is just making a living! got the bad end. Shows you the value of Japanese society right there.

I bet the guy would walk free for killing her in real life too.
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I'd would say that the game and those little flashbacks push the players to their limits, until they show their true colors. They are not judged by the result of the game, but by their behaviour during it


Yeah. I think your right...hopefully the outcomes for the next eps are not as depressing as what happened here lol.


Didn't the game look fixed? In at least three shots, they 'accidentally' hit the very spot they were avoiding (or at least not specifically targeting), the girl hitting the guy's eye, the guy hitting her womb and the final shot to the heart. These seemed like genuine slips, at least from their expressions (the last one definitely was), and yet hit critical parts of the board. Maybe the game events are predetermined and are just meant to trigger the player's memories and make them confess.
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damn for a moment there I trusted the lady..
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Jan 10, 2015 7:42 AM

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Why Takashi's soul ended up reincarnated? and the other one is in void?
Jan 10, 2015 7:56 AM
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myjonpol said:
Why Takashi's soul ended up reincarnated? and the other one is in void?


Japanese societal values.
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myjonpol said:
Why Takashi's soul ended up reincarnated? and the other one is in void?


I think she IS having affair with the guy. But since she was the winner of the game, she most likely had the option to choose where she wanted to go (Reincarnated or Void) . She loved him so much she sent him to be reincarnated, and went to hell for herself . Quite beautiful if you ask me.
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myjonpol said:
Why Takashi's soul ended up reincarnated? and the other one is in void?


I think she IS having affair with the guy. But since she was the winner of the game, she most likely had the option to choose where she wanted to go (Reincarnated or Void) . She loved him so much she sent him to be reincarnated, and went to hell for herself . Quite beautiful if you ask me.


that's not the case -_-


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Jan 10, 2015 8:01 AM

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good episode as expected.
Jan 10, 2015 8:10 AM

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Ok, thanks nameskizo. It seems like for those that havn't watched Death Billards the explanation of what void and reincarnation means probably comes later on. Maybe in the next episode since what we saw in the end might as well have been a teaser for the next episode. But so far they let it open on purpose to stimulate thought. The more hours pass and the more I think about it the more I think how well done this episode was. Turn human's innermost feelings out.
Jan 10, 2015 8:52 AM

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So Machiko goes to hell to receive the void and Takashi goes to heaven to receive the reincarnation. Shouldn't be the opposite? Machiko got pregnant, she only wanted to stay happy for the rest of their lifes together, and his husband had started to talk in the different way, just like a maniac for save his life and doesn't cares about the others...
Now I'm got more interested on this anime. It will be very enjoyable. :)
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Jan 10, 2015 9:04 AM

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FUCKING DAMN SON, that's all I gotta say!
Jan 10, 2015 9:08 AM

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Wiw those mind games
Dat animation
That bitch went straight to hell :O
Amazing start.
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Jan 10, 2015 9:16 AM

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So Machiko goes to hell to receive the void and Takashi goes to heaven to receive the reincarnation. Shouldn't be the opposite? Machiko got pregnant, she only wanted to stay happy for the rest of their lifes together, and his husband had started to talk in the different way, just like a maniac for save his life and doesn't cares about the others...
Now I'm got more interested on this anime. It will be very enjoyable. :)


Nameskizo explained that the void is heaven and reincarnation is hell (symbolic) as it seems to be based more on buddhism than on cristianity. I think the meaning of what hell and what heaven is is quite different from our "western approach". Apparently you learn that when watching the movie this anime is based on.
Jan 10, 2015 9:19 AM

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Well that was most interesting
Jan 10, 2015 9:23 AM

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Reincarnation itself is hell, though. Having to go through life again, likely to make the same mistakes. Suffering. Void is eternal peace.
Jan 10, 2015 10:05 AM

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Wow. The hype was delievered on every front.
Top animation, good ost, good plot & direction.
Based MadHouse, potential to be AoTS.
Imagine a berserk anime by Yoshiaki kawajiri at Madhouse.

Now take a look at Berserk (2016).

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Jan 10, 2015 10:10 AM

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Reincarnation itself is hell, though. Having to go through life again, likely to make the same mistakes. Suffering. Void is eternal peace.
if reincarnation is hell then sign me up for that shit

way better than burning on fire forever
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Moodie said:
Kinzo said:
Reincarnation itself is hell, though. Having to go through life again, likely to make the same mistakes. Suffering. Void is eternal peace.
if reincarnation is hell then sign me up for that shit

way better than burning on fire forever


In Buddhism, Hell isn't burning/suffering for eternity. In fact, one can get promoted to Heaven and vice versa: neither is eternal.
Jan 10, 2015 10:46 AM

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Anyone thinking that the chick lied at the end?
Jan 10, 2015 10:49 AM
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The concept is interesting, but what if both are judged as sinned? Both going to hell? Or still one way for each? Makes little sense to me.

On the other hand the art is incredible and video languages are widely used, great production value after all.

4/5 for now.
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Awesome, i loved it ! I want more :)
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