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Jan 4, 2015 5:15 PM

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Saying Utena has a homosexual subtext is like saying water is wet. That being said, if that's all someone could get out of Utena, then...I'm not sure what to say actually.
Jan 4, 2015 5:17 PM
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He is just homophobic but does not admit.
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You hate homosexual men yet have a yuri hentai listed as one of your favourite series... why is it that girls are allowed to love each other, but men aren't? I completely understand not wanting to see a load of dicks swinging around, but why the incessant hate for anything that may possibly glance in the direction of something more than platonic between men?

Are you from the deep south US by any chance?
Jan 4, 2015 5:19 PM

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Shocked said:
Saying Utena has a homosexual subtext is like saying water is wet. That being said, if that's all someone could get out of Utena, then...I'm not sure what to say actually.

Another masterful show op will miss. Better stay away from Five Leaves as well. Ouch.

Jan 4, 2015 5:20 PM
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Berserk gay moments are minor: it's implied that Griffith had sex with a man, but doesn't show it.

NGE episode 24 is pretty gay, but no gay kissing anything like that. It's the only episode like that in the series.

Yu Yu Hakusho has a minor gay moment, where this henchman character says he is in love with one of Sensui's (a male main villain) personalities, the female one.
Jan 4, 2015 5:21 PM

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Hunter X Hunter is gay. Surprised no one mentioned it.

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Shocked said:
Saying Utena has a homosexual subtext is like saying water is wet. That being said, if that's all someone could get out of Utena, then...I'm not sure what to say actually.


In Utena most of the male characters are villians, so I don't care, I'll watch Utena.

Kuromii said:
You hate homosexual men yet have a yuri hentai listed as one of your favourite series... why is it that girls are allowed to love each other, but men aren't? I completely understand not wanting to see a load of dicks swinging around, but why the incessant hate for anything that may possibly glance in the direction of something more than platonic between men?

Are you from the deep south US by any chance?


Yea... I just happen to live in NC, but that's irrelevant to the fact that I can't bring myself to like a gay character... and I don't hate them, I just can't like them.

LucasRTS said:
He is just homophobic but does not admit.


Actually I will neither confirm or deny that I'm homophobic, since I don't care if I am or not
Jan 4, 2015 5:26 PM

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I hope incest doesn't bother you, because Utena....lol
Jan 4, 2015 5:27 PM

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Gymkata said:
I hope incest doesn't bother you, because Utena....lol


He's from NC so incest is pretty commonplace, I wouldn't worry about it.
Jan 4, 2015 5:28 PM

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PoeticJustice said:
Hunter X Hunter is gay. Surprised no one mentioned it.



I don't care though, cause he's not the main character

JumpinJackCrash said:
Berserk gay moments are minor: it's implied that Griffith had sex with a man, but doesn't show it.

NGE episode 24 is pretty gay, but no gay kissing anything like that. It's the only episode like that in the series.

Yu Yu Hakusho has a minor gay moment, where this henchman character says he is in love with one of Sensui's (a male main villain) personalities, the female one.


The only reason I'm watching NGE is because a friend keeps recommending it. Honestly its not that good so far. Also, how does Beserk imply Griffith fucked a guy?

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I hope incest doesn't bother you, because Utena....lol


Again... I don't care unless it's between two dudes who are main characters. I'm not gonna drop a series cause of a villain or minor character... and lesbians don't bother me... I can tolerate incest, but I don't like it.
Jan 4, 2015 5:29 PM

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Lyuze said:
Gymkata said:
I hope incest doesn't bother you, because Utena....lol


He's from NC so incest is pretty commonplace, I wouldn't worry about it.

Rofl

Dang, almost was able to scratch another good one off, Koi Kaze lol
Jan 4, 2015 5:30 PM
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Just watch Legend of the Galactic Heroes please.
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silversongwriter said:
PoeticJustice said:
Hunter X Hunter is gay. Surprised no one mentioned it.



I don't care though, cause he's not the main character

Your logic will never cease to surprise me.
Jan 4, 2015 5:34 PM

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SetsukoHara said:
silversongwriter said:


I don't care though, cause he's not the main character

Your logic will never cease to surprise me.


I ain't using logic, I simply won't like a character if they're gay.. and if I watch a series staring a gay guy, I won't be able to thoroughly appreciate it and I'll dislike it.....It's better for me not watch a show than to unjustly hate it. Since "the main character is gay" is a terrible reason to call a show bad. So rather than hate a good show, I won't watch it
Jan 4, 2015 5:38 PM

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silversongwriter said:
SetsukoHara said:

Your logic will never cease to surprise me.


I ain't using logic, I simply won't like a character if they're gay.. and if I watch a series staring a gay guy, I won't be able to thoroughly appreciate it and I'll dislike it.....It's better for me not watch a show than to unjustly hate it. Since "the main character is gay" is a terrible reason to call a show bad. So rather than hate a good show, I won't watch it


A character doesn't need to be likable in order to be appreciated as a character. I don't like Asuka in NGE, but I believe she's absolutely one of the best characters in anime.
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silversongwriter said:
SetsukoHara said:

Your logic will never cease to surprise me.


I ain't using logic, I simply won't like a character if they're gay.. and if I watch a series staring a gay guy, I won't be able to thoroughly appreciate it and I'll dislike it.....It's better for me not watch a show than to unjustly hate it. Since "the main character is gay" is a terrible reason to call a show bad. So rather than hate a good show, I won't watch it
spoiler: none of the anime from yaoi sleuth site have openly gay mc's; it's obvious if you just look at the evidence listed
and for that matter, neither does LoGH; reinhard gets married, julien gets a gf, and the other pics are mostly out of context quotes
Jan 4, 2015 5:45 PM

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Lyuze said:
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I ain't using logic, I simply won't like a character if they're gay.. and if I watch a series staring a gay guy, I won't be able to thoroughly appreciate it and I'll dislike it.....It's better for me not watch a show than to unjustly hate it. Since "the main character is gay" is a terrible reason to call a show bad. So rather than hate a good show, I won't watch it


A character doesn't need to be likable in order to be appreciated as a character. I don't like Asuka in NGE, but I believe she's absolutely one of the best characters in anime.


But if I can't like them, what would them being well-written mean... I think Aoi Hana is easily one of the best yuri anime ever made... but it was boring, I prefer yuri like Sakura Trick and Yuru Yuri, those are what yuri should be in my opinion. And that's simply cause I enjoyed Yuru Yuri more.


[/quote]spoiler: none of the anime from yaoi sleuth site have openly gay mc's; it's obvious if you just look at the evidence listed
and for that matter, neither does LoGH; reinhard gets married, julien gets a gf, and the other pics are mostly out of context quotes[/quote]

LoGH is too long, so it doesn't matter to me, I'd never get to that anime, I'd probably end up putting it aside forever. And just cause they aren't openly gay doesn't mean they aren't implied to be gay. After all, the site was correct about Peace Maker Kurogane... which doesn't matter cause the gay characters aren't the main characters. And I only see one of them as gay anyway. The site was also right about deathnote. I finished it, but that foot scene was fucked up.
Jan 4, 2015 5:47 PM

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Wait. So you're aware that yaoi subtext will make you not see the greatness of the show itself. But you don't try to do anything about it? What kinda of logic...
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Jan 4, 2015 5:53 PM

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vitaxlilium said:
Wait. So you're aware that yaoi subtext will make you not see the greatness of the show itself. But you don't try to do anything about it? What kinda of logic...


It depends, there was kind of some yaoi subtext in "kids on the slope", but it wasn't strong enough to make me say, "these guys are gay"... as long as the subtext isn't so pronounced that it makes me think the characters are gay, it's fine... For example "L" from deathnote is probably autistic and doesn't know much about social skills.. perhaps he wanted to give Light a foot massage because it's simply a new skill he wanted to show off. Light is obviously not gay and clearly was letting him do that because he's deceitful. Japans are more accepting place for that kind of thing, so possibly. Plus L doing that was also a religious reference. And L might just not think anything of giving a guy a massage.

so since it doesn't directly seem that the characters are gay, it's fine.
Jan 4, 2015 5:53 PM

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Your delusion knows no bounds.

The foot scene in Death Note was symbolic. Jesus always washed the feet of his disciples, even Judas, who Jesus knew would betray him. L knew Light would betray him, that's what the scene represents. Honestly just quit watching NGE now, I really doubt you'd comprehend anything about iy. if you couldn't even figure out the foot scene in Death Note.
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silversongwriter said:
vitaxlilium said:
Wait. So you're aware that yaoi subtext will make you not see the greatness of the show itself. But you don't try to do anything about it? What kinda of logic...


It depends, there was kind of some yaoi subtext in "kids on the slope", but it wasn't strong enough to make me say, "these guys are gay"... as long as the subtext isn't so pronounced that it makes me think the characters are gay, it's fine... For example "L" from deathnote is probably autistic and doesn't know much about social skills.. perhaps he wanted to give Light a foot massage because it's simply a new skill he wanted to show off. Light is obviously not gay and clearly was letting him do that because he's deceitful. Japans are more accepting place for that kind of thing, so possibly. Plus L doing that was also a religious reference. And L might just not think anything of giving a guy a massage.

so since it doesn't directly seem that the characters are gay, it's fine.


But why does it affect you? Why is it gross? Why are you incapable of getting over it?
Jan 4, 2015 5:57 PM

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Lyuze said:
Your delusion knows no bounds.

The foot scene in Death Note was symbolic. Jesus always washed the feet of his disciples, even Judas, who Jesus knew would betray him. L knew Light would betray him, that's what the scene represents. Honestly just quit watching NGE now, I really doubt you'd comprehend anything about iy. if you couldn't even figure out the foot scene in Death Note.


I knew that very well... I was still put off by the scene, but I don't see L as gay and understood that... if not, I wouldn't have finished the thing... and NGE's metaphors are fucking dumb... cross shaped explosions? Random religious symbols? naming the enemy after religious figures? The religious references there suck. However, I've only seen a few episodes, so I cn't tell

I you want depth, watch Ghost in the Shell

.[/quote]

But why does it affect you? Why is it gross? Why are you incapable of getting over it?[/quote]

What do you mean? I obviously have if I finished both those shows. I was just freaked out for a moment. Again... It's not a matter of it being gross... if there's a gay scene I can skip it or look away..but if the main character is gay, I can't like them.
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Oh, almost forgot. I saw Death Note listed on that site, so without looking first, I'm gonna guess they're gonna use the reference to Jesus washing the foot of Judas as "evidence."

And yup. Despite that, I'm gonna give the site the benefit of the doubt and hope that it's an elaborate joke.

Edit: Judas Priest...I've been watching too much Hellsing.
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Shocked said:
Oh, almost forgot. I saw Death Note listed on that site, so without looking first, I'm gonna guess they're gonna use the reference to Judas Priest washing the foot of Jesus as "evidence."

And yup. Despite that, I'm gonna give the site the benefit of the doubt and hope that it's an elaborate joke.


I don't remember when Judas Priest was washing Jesus's foot... that must have been a weird concert.
Jan 4, 2015 8:31 PM

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elitsu said:
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I don't care though, cause he's not the main character


I think you're going to have to rethink that.

What are you doing?!?!? He's never going to watch Hunter x Hunter now!!
Jan 4, 2015 8:56 PM

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I have a better solution. Maybe you should stop acting like a 5 year old.
Jan 4, 2015 9:02 PM

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Red_Keys said:
I have a better solution. Maybe you should stop acting like a 5 year old.


I'm not a male fujoshi that watches gay shit... sorry. I can't help that I don't like gay characters
Jan 4, 2015 9:04 PM

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Hey, no calling names. You don't have to be a yaoi/yuri fan to watch stuff with canonical gay couples or even obvious subtext. Anyone can watch it.
Jan 4, 2015 9:09 PM

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mayukachan said:
Hey, no calling names. You don't have to be a yaoi/yuri fan to watch stuff with canonical gay couples or even obvious subtext. Anyone can watch it.


Yea... Well I happen to simply not watch that type of anime


[/quote]
I think you're going to have to rethink that.

[spoiler] [/quote]

What's this pic all about? I doubt if HxH was really gay like that, I wouldn't be able to find out through google. I think that pic is from something else. If I can't find any information online suggesting the main characters are gay, other then some fujoshi's fanart. I'm not the first person to ask if it was yaoi, and every one who's seen it says it isn't... so what's up with that gif?
Jan 4, 2015 9:11 PM

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I haven't even seen that HxH scene. I don't know where it's from. Maybe in the previews? idk
It's not gay. Even fujoshi don't ship Gon and Killua.

Don't worry, just watch it.

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mayukachan said:
Hey, no calling names. You don't have to be a yaoi/yuri fan to watch stuff with canonical gay couples or even obvious subtext. Anyone can watch it.
Yea... Well I happen to simply not watch that type of anime

You don't have to call Red_Keys a male fujoshi or anything.
Jan 4, 2015 9:13 PM

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mayukachan said:
I haven't even seen that HxH scene. I don't know where it's from. Maybe in the previews? idk
It's not gay. Even fujoshi don't ship Gon and Killua.

Don't worry, just watch it.

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Yea... Well I happen to simply not watch that type of anime

You don't have to call Red_Keys a male fujoshi or anything.


I only did that because he called me a 5 year old. If he disagreed with me respectfully or simply asked why I'm so averse to gays I'd have been more respectful
Jan 4, 2015 9:14 PM

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He's just...sassy. lol

Expecting "respectful" comments when you're out of the majority is asking for too much. :/
Jan 4, 2015 9:30 PM

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If you look hard enough you'll find Yaoi subtext in Girls und Panzer.

You remember that Maus scene very well..
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Jan 4, 2015 9:36 PM

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I once found yaoi subtext in a particularly fruity jar of raspberry jam.
Jan 4, 2015 9:39 PM

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lol Evangelion is gay as fuck
Jan 4, 2015 9:42 PM

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elitsu said:
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I think you're going to have to rethink that.

[spoiler]


What's this pic all about? I doubt if HxH was really gay like that, I wouldn't be able to find out through google. I think that pic is from something else. If I can't find any information online suggesting the main characters are gay, other then some fujoshi's fanart. I'm not the first person to ask if it was yaoi, and every one who's seen it says it isn't... so what's up with that gif?


It's from the previews. There are a ton of hints towards those two being gay but you definitely won't see them since you refuse to accept gay characters so don't worry about it.[/quote]

oh... that's a sick fucking preview... underage boys kissing? The fuck were they thinking... although, HxH is pretty decent so far.... no Full Metal Alchemist, but still.... devent
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silversongwriter said:
Red_Keys said:
I have a better solution. Maybe you should stop acting like a 5 year old.


I'm not a male fujoshi that watches gay shit... sorry. I can't help that I don't like gay characters
And your solution is to stop acting like a 5 year old.
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silversongwriter said:
elitsu said:


What's this pic all about? I doubt if HxH was really gay like that, I wouldn't be able to find out through google. I think that pic is from something else. If I can't find any information online suggesting the main characters are gay, other then some fujoshi's fanart. I'm not the first person to ask if it was yaoi, and every one who's seen it says it isn't... so what's up with that gif?


It's from the previews. There are a ton of hints towards those two being gay but you definitely won't see them since you refuse to accept gay characters so don't worry about it.


oh... that's a sick fucking preview... underage boys kissing? The fuck were they thinking... although, HxH is pretty decent so far.... no Full Metal Alchemist, but still.... devent[/quote]
That's from the Huntercyclopedia shorts after the credits. Killua was demonstrating one of Nostrada's bodyguards powers, she controls people after kissing them. So really its not a romantic kiss. But HxH is about a massive bromance so take what yaoi undertones you will with it.
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lol Evangelion is gay as fuck


Can an Angel even possess any concept of what sexuality is? I never saw the KawoShin pairing as a sexual one anyway, more of an expression of Shinji's loneliness and damage caused by the emotional distance of those around him. The Kaworu relationship was cathartic to him in this sense.
Jan 4, 2015 9:50 PM
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dragonball z is gay huh lol
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I wouldn't call any of these shows gay, I would just say they have gay subtext and there's nothing wrong with that.

Also the Yu Yu Hakusho explanation is bullshit. Yes there is gay subtext in it but its between two villains.
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Most of these are just subtle subtext. If you aren't looking for it then you won't even notice.

kyou kara maou and 07 ghost are less subtle but it stays subtext

haven't seen so i'm not 100% if it stays just subtext on Utena, X-1999, Fushigi Yuugi, and k
Jan 4, 2015 9:54 PM

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You sound homophobic. One suggestive scene or two won't kill you
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dragonball z is gay huh lol

goku is totally asexual tho
Jan 4, 2015 9:57 PM

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Caboose said:

kyou kara maou an d07 ghost are less subtle but it stays subtext

Kyou kara maou is actually much clearer on that issue if you consider the revelation of the MC previous incarnations in the latter half of the show.
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silversongwriter said:
I'm not homophobic, it's just that I can't connect or feel reverence or attachment if they're gay... And if I can't like a character, how can I enjoy the show while disliking the protagonist

silversongwriter said:
Red_Keys said:
I have a better solution. Maybe you should stop acting like a 5 year old.

I'm not a male fujoshi that watches gay shit... sorry. I can't help that I don't like gay characters

You claim to not be homophobic and yet you refer to gay male subtext or relationships as "gay shit"?
Jan 4, 2015 10:04 PM

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This guy's like one of those anti-gay politicians who eventually get caught with underage dick in their mouth.
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azzuRe said:
Caboose said:

kyou kara maou an d07 ghost are less subtle but it stays subtext

Kyou kara maou is actually much clearer on that issue if you consider the revelation of the MC previous incarnations in the latter half of the show.


Does it...honestly it's been quite a while since i watched this so i was just going off the general impressions it left me. Anime are starting to blur together and it is getting harder and harder to remember specifics
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This guy's like one of those anti-gay politicians who eventually get caught with underage dick in their mouth.

LOL
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mayukachan said:
j0x said:
dragonball z is gay huh lol

goku is totally asexual tho


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