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| I loved that episode. The fact Kino thought that the book which supposedly had everything about the world written in it was boring made me laugh :] |
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| What? I think that whole town was nuts. |
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| For some reason I really didn't get the point of this story... all other adressed some issue of society, but this one missed it somehow... or I missed it... |
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| It made me think that there are people who state that there are harmful video games, it may be one of the things that this episode wanted to bring to light. |
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GreatS said: For some reason I really didn't get the point of this story... all other adressed some issue of society, but this one missed it somehow... or I missed it... It's about the negative effects of bureaucratically controlled society. |
GreatS said: For some reason I really didn't get the point of this story... all other adressed some issue of society, but this one missed it somehow... or I missed it... It's the same for me, this is one of the least good episode of Kino's Journey so far, even though I like books a lot. In the beginning, it reminded me somewhere of the issue of banning certain books which happens sometimes here, but the end was just meh. |
| Lawl, censorship. Also, burning books makes me sad.:( |
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| LOL! I got confused at this episode... XD Yeah, haven't got anything. Maybe I've missed it. |
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| An excellent episode, really love it. I think this episode was more about the dependance created by illusionary stories like in video game, anime or books ... Somehow it show how it can bring craziness and hatred for the real life. That's quit something to show the books like bad things :D |
| Yeah, the only issue I could see being addressed in this episode was the effect of having a bureaucratically controlled society, where decision-making is apparently totally centralised. I couldn't really tell who was insane. Even the lady librarian looked a little crazy at one point, where she was telling Kino that the Author's books draw you in and make you think you're the character. HooHiraiBunny said: An excellent episode, really love it. I think this episode was more about the dependance created by illusionary stories like in video game, anime or books ... Somehow it show how it can bring craziness and hatred for the real life. That's quit something to show the books like bad things :D Actually, that's a pretty interesting way to interpret the episode! :D Maybe that was it... Either way I still liked this episode, and I am a book-lover too. :) |
| Yay, an episode about banning/censorship. Reminds me of how people try and ban "harmful" anime, books, or video games. I remember this one book, Mark Mathabane's "Kaffir Boy." that was banned from my library, because the title and one page from the book is too "harmful" They shouldn't censor the 'unpleasant stuff', etc. Especially if it's real. That one guy had a horrendous life, and he wrote about it in great detail. You shouldn't make an author change their story for you little kid. If you don't want to read that, there's kids books for you. I've watched/read a ton of corrupted stuff. It's not like I'm going to go running around killing people for fun. People should stop trying to censor/ban stuff. Anyways, liked the episode. ^_^ but it was too harmful, so it should be banned? jk. |
| Another great episode, I liked its pitch that the whole journey was just Kino's dream while the real world was long destroyed with her and her father being the only survivors. Reminded me of a red herring moment from Perfect Blue, you know the one. Hmm. Could she really be just reading the book? |
MinorDesperaJul 6, 2016 7:28 AM
| Interesting episode about censorship and it's possible good or bad points. It's true that the people who read the books took it a little to literally, but I believe that that is their right. I also like how the episode took a stab at critics. |
Ston3_FreeN7Nov 26, 2009 10:09 PM
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| interesting episode... Cersorship... Critic... Reality... Fiction... This episode is really interesting. |
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| Can't really get my mind around this episode. A lot of different ideas about censorship and the relationship between fiction and reality, but it didn't really come together in the end. Maybe I'm missing something. I did get the Perfect Blue vibe that mirrordepth picked up on, it's not clear what was real and what was imagined in that episode. |
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| Definitely the most interesting episode so far, with much more psychological aspects than the rest. It all came together really well. |
JuicyBuddha said: Can't really get my mind around this episode. A lot of different ideas about censorship and the relationship between fiction and reality, but it didn't really come together in the end. Maybe I'm missing something. I did get the Perfect Blue vibe that mirrordepth picked up on, it's not clear what was real and what was imagined in that episode. Well said. ^^ I'm also a bit confused to say the truth @.@ Might have to rewatch and analyze it again in the future.. In the end I couldn't separate what was meant to be reality and what fiction.. xD |
| I loved this episode. There's the fact of cencorship ofcourse and always ongoing issues with bad influences by tv, games, books, the internet, whatever. Really, the student town I live in had it's trainstation removed in the mid 1900s, allegedly because the parents of the student population thought it was a bad influence on their offspring to have big cities within reach. We still suffer the consequences today... ^^ I really liked the philosophical issues in this episode. It reminded me a lot of the book Sophie's world by Jostein Gaarder, in which the question of reality is also raised. I think at some point there is even communication between the character in the book and the person reading it. And of course you as a reader hover over all that as some superbeing, while you yourself are also just another tiny part of a world that is only a reality to you for all you know. A great book I really should re-read sometime. This episode also reminded me that I sometimes long for a certain book to read, only to remember that it was just a book I read about in another book... To me this is the best episode so far. |
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| Fabulous episode! Totally mind-boggling, the whole time I didn't really know what was real and what wasn't.. Also loved what the ofiice lady said about critics xD |
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Teddy said: GreatS said: For some reason I really didn't get the point of this story... all other adressed some issue of society, but this one missed it somehow... or I missed it... It's the same for me, this is one of the least good episode of Kino's Journey so far, even though I like books a lot. In the beginning, it reminded me somewhere of the issue of banning certain books which happens sometimes here, but the end was just meh. whew i'm not alone :) yeah if you ask me this was the worst episode yet....maybe i was praising Kino no tabi too much :) let's hope the rest of the episodes will be awesome :D 3/5 |
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| can,t really understand the part of the tank... :S |
| This episode had a lot of different themes to it. Reality and fantasy, censorship, how we perceive fiction. Very well done. |
| I think they never really intended to separate reality and fiction, but let us make our own assumptions on which is which. |
clannad4ever said: Teddy said: GreatS said: For some reason I really didn't get the point of this story... all other adressed some issue of society, but this one missed it somehow... or I missed it... It's the same for me, this is one of the least good episode of Kino's Journey so far, even though I like books a lot. In the beginning, it reminded me somewhere of the issue of banning certain books which happens sometimes here, but the end was just meh. whew i'm not alone :) yeah if you ask me this was the worst episode yet....maybe i was praising Kino no tabi too much :) let's hope the rest of the episodes will be awesome :D 3/5 Your brains are too weak to capture the message of this episode. Twas an excellent episode and one of the most thought-provoking. |
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| Now I understand why the man who cried water in the middle of the desert left the land of books. |
| Huh, censorship is really a thing. Being a fellow bookworm and avid book-reader, I can somehow feel identified. Putting everyone’s rights to read something at bay, justifying it with the excuse that “it’s for their welfare” is not a new matter; many have banned plenty of shows, books, and anything one can think of whilst saying so. If we say “everyone who has read this book has committed murder”, we can’t just ban it and so, even if maybe, as it happens with everything, being too much into some medium can led you to confuse reality and fantasy. The comment about the critics taking out a person’s pleasure at reading a book made me laugh at the truthfulness of those words. No matter what, I won’t stop watching Kino no Tabi just because you’re saying it’s “bad” in it, guys. You won’t trick me into stopping me from watching you. |
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restore said: Dammit, it was my least favorite episode because I can't wrap my head around it. Can someone please explain in detail WTF happened? I'm so confused... Have you ever seen, inception? That is the closet comparison i have on hand. Kinoception. "Reality and fantasy, censorship, how we perceive fiction." Too many of you guys, only understood the censorship part but that is only a small part of the pie that is this masterpiece of an episode. |
| The whole country was nuts. |
| Now this is what I call Bibliomania raised to the maximum. |
| Excellent episode... Provoking thought and challenging your viewers is a good thing. ^^ The censorship bit was pretty overt - I'm thankful it evolved into something greater. |
Blue_MondayJan 19, 2012 12:41 PM
| This episode kinda brings the censorship topic to light, but I'd have to agree this was one was one of the least good episodes of Kino, but still very interesting nevertheless. |
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| It wasn't the most enjoyable episode, but it was philosophically the deepest one so far, dealing not only with censorship and the nature of fiction but that of identity as well. In the previous episodes I've consistently felt that the story was something out of The Little Prince with the message that you shouldn't listen to the society but go your own way. But this had much more: Nietzschean themes (make/write your own life as you want it and you make the world) as well as postmodern metafiction play (where does the story end, who writes the story: the author or the reader?) and of course the Shakespeare references. I liked the bit where Kino and the Author talked about how people struggle with trying to see themselves as main characters of their life story while everyone else doesn't recognise you being the main character, and the only way to avoid it is to get in a position in which you're neither the main nor the supporting character. That was quite a Zen thing to say. At the same time, what that entails is something very difficult to realise because it requires quite a radical departure from the ordinary view of identity. That's what makes this episode more challenging than the earlier ones. |
| Probably one of my favorite episodes from this series. The author was a complete quack but this quote was great - "Classification of fantasy and reality is itself a fantasy that humans created, my dear motorrad." Since we as humans have a limited understanding of the world based on our experiences, our definition of reality is incomplete. Another interesting thought from the author was how although we may be the main characters in our own lives, everyone else is a supporting character. This really goes to show how big the world really is and that perhaps there really is no main characters, simply everyone with a role in a bigger story called life. There's so much to say about this episode, but I need to stop here. |
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| Was not a fan of the episode but the concept was really interesting, if they put it better in motion it would have been one epic episode! Alas... it was still quite decent though but well lets see what he'll encounter on his journey next! |
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| confusion. but i still liked the overall feeling of bizzarness if thats a thing also imagine: we are all just critics :O |
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| One of the better episodes. Laughed at the bit with the critics, reminds me of some of the "reviewers" here on MAL. |
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| Alright episode |
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| wow this episode... probably the best so far didnt excpect it to take a psychological turn |
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| Anime would be illegal if that town were to criticize it. |
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