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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Well look who's back. The ceremony was cool. Good to see that Xin was promoted to a thousand-man general, although he isn't doing so well with his new found title. Loved Meng Tian face expression after hearing Xin's strategies lol. |
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| I know Xin is simple minded but really being that incompetent in forming even the most simple of battle plans it's too much, how is he expecting to become the greatest general like that? He already made a small skirmish war practice when he fought the war between those two villages and he took part in a few big battles along with some small ones. He should have some experience on how warfare is contacted. If he is that useless after those experiences how will he ever improve? Btw i thought when she will appear again she will be a woman and surprise Xin but i guess not enough time passed for that. |
MonadJan 27, 2014 6:01 AM
| LOL, Kingdom is not a comedy anime but when it tries it pulls it off so well. The ceremony was fantastic and wth at Xin's strategy, i already miss Qiang Lei but i guess Diao can also get the job done. I'm guessing the remainder of the season will focus on protecting the area they won. Season 3 announcement better come soon. |
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| Great episode! I'd missed Zheng so much! Sadly, there still wasn't much of him in this episode anyway, but LOVED his reunion with Xin - so epic yet child-like. Meng Tian has become one my favourite characters, he and Xin are such bros. And it's brilliant to have Diao back since the only other female character just left. The comedy in this one, after god-knows-how-many episodes of the war, was very welcome. Xin's appalling skills (or rather lack of it) as his unit's strategist was, I think, more for comic relief rather than actually establishing him as a poor tactician. In any case, it was hilarious - especially his demonstration to Meng Tian hahah! |
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| It's a little tragic that Xin is completely incompetent in these matters, but he's young, so there's still time, right? It'll be interesting to see at what level Diao's stratagems are. |
| Looks like Shin got some plot armor.! Lolz. - Really puts it off when you can easily predict that he'll eventually become the greatest general and what not. Well anime rarely contains any plot twists. Didn't expect to see Diao any time soon - I really hate her.. Apart from all that, this episode was indeed very good. 8/10 |
ramrowanJan 27, 2014 6:28 AM
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| Refreshing episode, nice to see Xin finally has armor. Xin seems really really terrible in battle tactics and strategies. Lian Po, Wang Qi and all the other Great Generals were geniuses and amazing strategists as well as Generals, so I'm not sure how Xin will reach their levels yet, as his goal is to become the greatest general under the heavens. Though, Xin is still pretty young, so hopefully he also starts learning some tactics so he doesn't constantly have to rely on Lei or Diao. (He somehow has to become a genius if he wants to get to Lian Po or Wang Qi's level) Monad said: Btw i thought when she will appear again she will be a woman and surprise Xin but i guess not enough time passed for that. I really wanted to see this too, since Xin looks a lot older and taller than he was in the first season, but for some reason, Diao still looks slightly the same. Though, I guess she wants to keep her hair short, since woman aren't allowed on the battlefield? |
AzekuraJan 27, 2014 8:47 AM
| LMFAO xin is so freaking dumb I'm glad Diao is back she was going to a strategist school all this time so I'm sure she'll get the unit back on it's feet. But Xin really needs to learn some war tactics this is not One Piece if you're not smart in this war game everybody will get killed and uniting China really will become impossible. Xin is lucky to have friends in high places. Also there are only 5 more episodes of Kingdom 2!! I really hope this gets another season or better yet adapt the whole damn manga!! |
Azekura said: Refreshing episode, nice to see Xin finally has armor. ^This. This so much. Nice to see Xin and Zheng back together for the honors ceremony. I wonder if the fact that they are confidants will be revealed or uncovered to the court; maybe Meng Tian will figure it out? Meng Tian is such a ladies man, hehe. |
| Wow... the head general Meng Ao lost his arm in battle in the manga, but in the anime he just broke it... |
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Xenoi said: Wow... the head general Meng Ao lost his arm in battle in the manga, but in the anime he just broke it... The first thing I noticed about the manga was how it has considerably much more gore and violence in it than the anime, which was always odd considering the whole story is revolved around warfare. Also Xin doesn't need armor, he has godmode since he's the main character. |
| lol xin really needs to listen to lian po and how a great general needs to be the best at everything. better hit them books. i have the feeling they're gonna go through the stupid acceptance stage. oh how annoying the next few eps gonna be. |
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| This series is just simply brilliant. The return of Diao has been well executed. Looking forward to the next episode, as always. |
| Wonderful transitional episode. Laughed my ass off and smiled at the bro moments between Xin and Zheng, and Xin and Meng Tian. Diao returning was done really well, nostalgia everywhere. The guys are gonna freak when they find out she's a girl too. They'll probably accuse Xin of being a player lol. I'm not worried about Xin's shitty strategic mind(Tian's reaction was fucking hilarious) because has the crazy ability to perform when it counts, especially under adversity. With a legit strategist to pave his way over some years he'll start picking up enough to get really compliment his insane leadership and performance qualities. Seravander said: I think that's very possible, it was slightly foreshadowed when he realized how quickly Xin's nerves went away. Boy would that be an intriguing conflict of interest for Meng Tian.Nice to see Xin and Zheng back together for the honors ceremony. I wonder if the fact that they are confidants will be revealed or uncovered to the court; maybe Meng Tian will figure it out? |
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| Just picked up the manga, now hoping for a season 3 announcement |
Monad said: I know Xin is simple minded but really being that incompetent in forming even the most simple of battle plans it's too much, how is he expecting to become the greatest general like that? He already made a small skirmish war practice when he fought the war between those two villages and he took part in a few big battles along with some small ones. He should have some experience on how warfare is contacted. If he is that useless after those experiences how will he ever improve? Commanding a village of people is very different from commanding an army of 1000 soldiers. The level of organization and strategy is whole different level. Also, Xin never receive proper education, (did he even went to school at all?) unlike he fellow 300 man generals, who come from noble family of generals and taught in the way of war since very young age. It is already very impressive that Xin made it this far so young and uneducated. However, Xin do need to improve his personal strategic thinking ability if he going to match those Great Generals. Nakama power won't save him in this manga. |
| damm im loving this more and more every episode. with so few episodes left in this season im really hoping for a season 3 announcement at the end. i really hope an english publisher decides to pick up the manga because i would love to own it |
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| lol every one "eeeehhh shiri-ai"... |
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| Don't think Xin will ever hit the books on becoming a strategist.. Sadly.. Now he has Diao who is quite frankly is a strategist. Soooo yeah, unless she dies, he is not going to hit no books. |
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leeo268 said: Monad said: I know Xin is simple minded but really being that incompetent in forming even the most simple of battle plans it's too much, how is he expecting to become the greatest general like that? He already made a small skirmish war practice when he fought the war between those two villages and he took part in a few big battles along with some small ones. He should have some experience on how warfare is contacted. If he is that useless after those experiences how will he ever improve? Commanding a village of people is very different from commanding an army of 1000 soldiers. The level of organization and strategy is whole different level. Also, Xin never receive proper education, (did he even went to school at all?) unlike he fellow 300 man generals, who come from noble family of generals and taught in the way of war since very young age. It is already very impressive that Xin made it this far so young and uneducated. However, Xin do need to improve his personal strategic thinking ability if he going to match those Great Generals. Nakama power won't save him in this manga. Well he is the main character so he only needs to improve in strength. And he also got some brand new plot armor. ''Sore wa daijōbudesu'', sadly very few anime has plot twists, and this anime sure as hell doesn't. |
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| I understand that Xin will never be a brilliant strategist. But how is he going to become the Greatest Under the Heavens if he can't even manage a win against nobodies? What happen with his 'training' under Wang Qi? I thought he learned to be a decent tactician at least. |
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| looks like everyone forgot that theres 2 types of general as wangQi said.. he doesnt have to be brilliant strategist to be great general, if hes not a strategist type then whats left is hes instinctual type like duke hyou.. |
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Dark_Messiah said: looks like everyone forgot that theres 2 types of general as wangQi said.. he doesnt have to be brilliant strategist to be great general, if hes not a strategist type then whats left is hes instinctual type like duke hyou.. I don't think anyone's saying that Xin has to become a brilliant strategist, but at the moment he hasn't even been able to direct 1000 men on his own. Of course, with experience that'll probably change, until then, he's a rallying figurehead and dominating warrior in the vein of Pang Nuan, at best. Sure, he can be the centre of morale, defeat generals and shift the tide of battle, but he's not a 'true' general, just a warrior. True generals fight on the level of wars and battles, not skirmish by skirmish, and to do that they need at least some understanding of the battlefield; that which Xin still lacks. |
Dark_Messiah said: looks like everyone forgot that theres 2 types of general as wangQi said.. he doesnt have to be brilliant strategist to be great general, if hes not a strategist type then whats left is hes instinctual type like duke hyou.. I'm pretty sure Wang Qi said the two types of generals are Instinctive or Resource-based, not intellectual/strategic and instinctive. Both generals still require knowledge of tactics and strategies. Even if Duke Hyou (Biao Gong) was an instinctive general, he was still shown sitting in front of a tactics board (I have no idea what it's called. The map thingy with chess-like pieces that represents armies), creating plans and movement for his entire army. If Xin wants to become the Greatest General under the Heavens, he eventually has to learn tactics and strategies of the battlefield. |
AzekuraJan 28, 2014 6:08 PM
Azekura said: Dark_Messiah said: looks like everyone forgot that theres 2 types of general as wangQi said.. he doesnt have to be brilliant strategist to be great general, if hes not a strategist type then whats left is hes instinctual type like duke hyou.. I'm pretty sure Wang Qi said the two types of generals are Instinctive or Resource-based, not intellectual/strategic and instinctive. Both generals still require knowledge of tactics and strategies. Even if Duke Hyou (Biao Gong) was an instinctive general, he was still shown sitting in front of a tactics board (I have no idea what it's called. The map thingy with chess-like pieces that represents armies), creating plans and movement for his entire army. If Xin wants to become the Greatest General under the Heavens, he eventually has to learn tactics and strategies of the battlefield. Yea, Xin is instinct type of course, but his instinct is seriously tested now with Qiang Lei gone and him running a 1000 man squad independently. However, his instinct suck so much that he can't even beat some no name Wei generals. He definitely can use some strategic help and training at least for now. |
| Who didn't call this?! :D That ending was sooooo gooooood. |
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| Love the ceremony part when Xin received that little sword from Zheng. It's quite sentimental and nostalgic. |
Ckan said: Dark_Messiah said: looks like everyone forgot that theres 2 types of general as wangQi said.. he doesnt have to be brilliant strategist to be great general, if hes not a strategist type then whats left is hes instinctual type like duke hyou.. I don't think anyone's saying that Xin has to become a brilliant strategist, but at the moment he hasn't even been able to direct 1000 men on his own. Of course, with experience that'll probably change, until then, he's a rallying figurehead and dominating warrior in the vein of Pang Nuan, at best. Sure, he can be the centre of morale, defeat generals and shift the tide of battle, but he's not a 'true' general, just a warrior. True generals fight on the level of wars and battles, not skirmish by skirmish, and to do that they need at least some understanding of the battlefield; that which Xin still lacks. Exactly, no one said he has to be capable of complicated triggy plans at every corner and always pulling the carpet under you feet. BUT he should at least have some decent basic knowledge of war and combat tactics. Even if you are the kind of general that uses his presence and moral boosting attacks you still need some comprehension of the battlefield or else the enemy will just make a fool of you simply by following basic tactics. You can't be a general without at least that much. |
| I really wonder how Xin ever got any men under his command. I mean tactic wise he is as dumb as boot.He's only good at fighting , that's it. I know i shouldnt say this ,but in real life he wouldnt be general. |
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| Ah, about time this happened. Agreed that he doesn't need to be a super strategist, but c'mon, learn some basic war tactics, same with political matters. Xin is a first class idiot. OTL On another note, Xin and Zheng's reunion was very nice! Had to laugh at the ceremony. Xin and Meng. Xin and Diao. Diao looks a bit older! Ah, those kids from season 1 are growing, aren't they? ^^ A short appearance of Meng Yi too. :D |
| Oh shiiiit shes back!! |
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| Mou Ten's reaction to Shin's strategies is priceless pure gold |
| wow this is cool |
| Oh god I just couldn't stop fucking laughing.. oh crap that was just a awesome episode. |
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| I was hoping for Diao to look more grown up like the rest of the cast but whatever. Good ep. |
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| Xin is ridiculously strong and charismatic, but sadly he's dumb lol. I'm glad Diao is back, she's much smarter than Xin :) Also, Xin is finally wearing some armor and pants! |
| This ep was just too awesome! xD |
| YAYY, I've been waiting for this for ages, Ten/Diao is back! :) The armor really suits Shin. |
| So many losses, REALLY?! How can he be that incompetent...oh well at least Diao is back. |
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| This was such a funny episode, and I am especially overjoyed at the reunion of Diao. I was expecting the flashy He Liao Diao pose though, haha! Xin finally got armor... But he's still wearing that dirty rag underneath. Seriously, does he ever change? I bet it smells sooo bad... |
| I've been wondering when Diao would make her reappearance... seeing as she didn't get that much screen time this season. Glad to see she's back~ Loved everyone's reaction. ROFL I wonder if Xin will finally realize that she's a girl. @_@ |
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| xin you fucking dropkick lmao. good to see diao again! |
Monad said: Yeah that's my biggest problem with this series as well. Just what the hell is this MC. The writers probably just wanted to have the niche open for a tactician in order to make some side characters relevent. But with Xin's goal of wanting to unite China and surpass the legends, he could never even make a full-fledged general...I know Xin is simple minded but really being that incompetent in forming even the most simple of battle plans it's too much, how is he expecting to become the greatest general like that? He already made a small skirmish war practice when he fought the war between those two villages and he took part in a few big battles along with some small ones. He should have some experience on how warfare is contacted. If he is that useless after those experiences how will he ever improve? |
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