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Do you believe that Ghosts and Demons Exists?
Oct 6, 2014 12:04 PM
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do u believe There is a spiritual world

"Not a lot of people realize that ghost stories are stories
and all stories have to come from somewhere.
so where do ghosts come from? "

If yes, why?

If no, why?

Agnostic? Why?

Please respect each other opinions.

Oct 6, 2014 12:05 PM
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I'm a ghost
Oct 6, 2014 12:06 PM
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DoubleC said:
I'm a ghost


2spooky4me...
Oct 6, 2014 12:06 PM
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AllenVonStein said:
"Not a lot of people realize that ghost stories are stories
and all stories have to come from somewhere.
so where do ghosts come from? "
There goes your thread.
Oct 6, 2014 12:17 PM
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I'm agnostic, so I believe that they could in fact exist, and to pretend that it's not possible seems rather silly to me. There are thousands of people who have claimed to see ghosts, it would be surprising if out of all the people in history that have claimed such, they were all either A) Joking/ telling a lie or B) hallucinating/crazy. Hell, my mother has told me that she has seen some, and has given pretty damn detailed situations, some from when she was a teenager, to when she was pregnant with me, to years after I was born, to a couple years ago. With the way that her stories have stayed consistent with each telling, and seriousness with which she retell the events, it leads me to at least consider the possibility. From there, it becomes a matter of it ghosts exist, perhaps spiritually is a thing, from which I would be forced to concede that God is very much real. Should God be real, I would hazard that Demons are too.
Oct 6, 2014 12:18 PM
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I hope not, they terrify me.
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Oct 6, 2014 12:23 PM
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Daemons exist, in fact, a number of humans throughout history have already made contact with them, and some have even been granted immortality and principality in the Immaterium for their deeds.

However, at the present, the veil between reality and the immaterium is still strong, and as such, requires immense power to be torn open. Coupled with the fact that the psyker genes are still virtually non-existent among mankind in this age, it's pretty much impossible to see a Daemon.

But in the dark future, when She Who Thirsts is born from the ecstatic dying screams of billions of twisted souls, the veil will break and the Eye will open to gaze Terror upon mortals. Then, the golden empire of mankind will crumble in a sea of blood and chaos, and our stars will darken one by one as Daemon stalk the land of the living. Bargaining their way into reality with promise of power and might, the desperate and the foolish will turn to the promise of power, immortality, change and excess, sowing destruction and chaos.

But this is but a vision of the far future. We are blessed indeed to live in ignorance of the darkness that lurks beyond.
Oct 6, 2014 12:25 PM
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Baman said:
Daemons exist, in fact, a number of humans throughout history have already made contact with them, and some have even been granted immortality and principality in the Immaterium for their deeds.

However, at the present, the veil between reality and the immaterium is still strong, and as such, requires immense power to be torn open. Coupled with the fact that the psyker genes are still virtually non-existent among mankind in this age, it's pretty much impossible to see a Daemon.

But in the dark future, when She Who Thirsts is born from the ecstatic dying screams of billions of twisted souls, the veil will break and the Eye will open to gaze Terror upon mortals. Then, the golden empire of mankind will crumble in a sea of blood and chaos, and our stars will darken one by one as Daemon stalk the land of the living. Bargaining their way into reality with promise of power and might, the desperate and the foolish will turn to the promise of power, immortality, change and excess, sowing destruction and chaos.

But this is a tale of the far future. We are blessed indeed to live in ignorance of the darkness that lurks beyond.
If we live in Ignorance, how did you come by this information?
Oct 6, 2014 12:30 PM
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Hutchens said:
If we live in Ignorance, how did you come by this information?
There are ways, to see the paths of the future, for those few that posses such a gift.

But it is not a gift any sane man would wish to have, for the visions from the void are terror to behold and its secrets poison to the wholesome mind. I myself eventually managed to blind my eyes to these visions, and it is only with great reluctance I speak of them at all. There goes not a night where I enjoy restful sleep, and were I to be granted but one wish, it would be to forget everything.
Oct 6, 2014 12:38 PM
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Only ghosts. I have witnessed some..
Oct 6, 2014 12:40 PM

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demons exists inside of us.
Oct 6, 2014 12:54 PM

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Nope, All bullshit. No ghost, no demons, no vampires, no god, no unicorns, no eastern bunny, no Santa-claus, no angels, no godzilla. Sorry kids is time you faced the truth.
[spoiler]
Oct 6, 2014 1:59 PM
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I am agnostic regarding this matter.

Why? Well,I can't prove existence of neither of them nor does the lack of proof prove that something does not exist.
Oct 6, 2014 2:03 PM

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Monad said:
Nope, All bullshit. No ghost, no demons, no vampires, no god, no unicorns, no eastern bunny, no Santa-claus, no angels, no godzilla. Sorry kids is time you faced the truth.
[spoiler]


Ghosts exist, demons are debatable, vampires do exist just not in the same way as vampires are portrayed in movies and myth (the vampires that do exist are just species of bats, flies, butterflies, and mosquitoes), you don't know if God doesn't exist for sure, the rest of it is obviously true.


Oct 6, 2014 2:10 PM

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ghosts yes, demons no
Problem?
Oct 6, 2014 2:11 PM

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The thought that they don't is practical but also boring.
Oct 6, 2014 2:13 PM

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Hoppy said:
Ghosts exist, demons are debatable, vampires do exist just not in the same way as vampires are portrayed in movies and myth (the vampires that do exist are just species of bats, flies, butterflies, and mosquitoes), you don't know if God doesn't exist for sure, the rest of it is obviously true.
Technicaly, ghosts are merely another form of the Daemon, a after-image of the human mind from the Immaterium, or so it seems, caught betwixt our world and the sea of Chaos. Either way it is not a thing one should seek out, and should one chance upon an encounter, pay never mind to it's pleas and whispers, for such is not meant for mortal ears and will lead only to ruin.

As to the exact nature of these wisps, whether they are indeed the remains of a deceased human or merely a fancy of the warp, I refuse to speculate, the implications of what awaits after bodily death are simply too monstrous to bear thought.
Oct 6, 2014 2:18 PM

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Baman said:
Hoppy said:
Ghosts exist, demons are debatable, vampires do exist just not in the same way as vampires are portrayed in movies and myth (the vampires that do exist are just species of bats, flies, butterflies, and mosquitoes), you don't know if God doesn't exist for sure, the rest of it is obviously true.
Technicaly, ghosts are merely another form of the Daemon, a after-image of the human mind from the Immaterium, or so it seems, caught betwixt our world and the sea of Chaos. Either way it is not a thing one should seek out, and should one chance upon an encounter, pay never mind to it's pleas and whispers, for such is not meant for mortal ears and will lead only to ruin.

As to the exact nature of these wisps, whether they are indeed the remains of a deceased human or merely a fancy of the warp, I refuse to speculate, the implications of what awaits after bodily death are simply too monstrous to bear thought.


Afterlife doesn't sound too pleasant from what you said. Also, what's a good way to get rid of a ghost outside of a medium or miko?


Oct 6, 2014 2:25 PM

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Evil spirits yes but not ghosts/demons
Oct 6, 2014 2:58 PM

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Hoppy said:
Afterlife doesn't sound too pleasant from what you said. Also, what's a good way to get rid of a ghost outside of a medium or miko?
Forgive me, I should not have brought it up. Forget what I've said and let us not speak of it again. Some things are best left unknown.
Oct 6, 2014 3:02 PM

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AllenVonStein said:
"Not a lot of people realize that ghost stories are stories
and all stories have to come from somewhere.
so where do ghosts come from? "

Sure, they came from our imaginations.
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Oct 6, 2014 3:04 PM
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Maybe.
Oct 6, 2014 3:10 PM

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I wish they did!
Oct 6, 2014 3:14 PM
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if you are schizophrenic/psychotic and you have some control over your thoughts then you will know that ghosts are just part of your imagination

spirit possession is common news here in the philippines but psychologists said its just mass hysteria

Oct 6, 2014 3:44 PM

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Baman said:
Hoppy said:
Ghosts exist, demons are debatable, vampires do exist just not in the same way as vampires are portrayed in movies and myth (the vampires that do exist are just species of bats, flies, butterflies, and mosquitoes), you don't know if God doesn't exist for sure, the rest of it is obviously true.
Technicaly, ghosts are merely another form of the Daemon, a after-image of the human mind from the Immaterium, or so it seems, caught betwixt our world and the sea of Chaos. Either way it is not a thing one should seek out, and should one chance upon an encounter, pay never mind to it's pleas and whispers, for such is not meant for mortal ears and will lead only to ruin.

As to the exact nature of these wisps, whether they are indeed the remains of a deceased human or merely a fancy of the warp, I refuse to speculate, the implications of what awaits after bodily death are simply too monstrous to bear thought.


I love the way you write.
Oct 6, 2014 5:04 PM

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Not in the way they are popularly portrayed, but they are there.....BEHIND YOU!!!!!
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Oct 6, 2014 5:12 PM

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i identify myself as ignostic but im a hardcore skeptic

nothing has convinced me that i should even humour the possibility of demons or ghosts existing
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Oct 6, 2014 5:16 PM

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Ghosts probably exist. I doubt about demons.
Oct 6, 2014 5:17 PM

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Only sexual demons. There's no need for any other kind.
Oct 6, 2014 5:17 PM

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No, I'm not a nutcase.
Oct 6, 2014 6:14 PM

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Is this an ironic rhetorical question, or is it a serious, standalone topic? Only OP will know.
Oct 6, 2014 6:24 PM

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I think my house is haunted but the ghosts act kawaii.
Oct 6, 2014 6:39 PM

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Monad said:
Nope, All bullshit. No ghost, no demons, no vampires, no god, no unicorns, no eastern bunny, no Santa-claus, no angels, no godzilla. Sorry kids is time you faced the truth.
There are eastern bunnies here on the eastern coast of the USA?

Seriously though, no I don't believe in ghosts. I do however believe in demons. You cannot really believe in God or Jesus as his son and not believe in a real Devil and real demons. Because Jesus taught that they are real.

In the Bible, demons are associated with: possession (people possessed by a demon or demons exhibit insanity, seizures, suicidal behavior) and oppression (external calamities focused on an individual) as well as unnatural animal behavior, false prophesy, and probably some other things I've missed. Documented cases of "hauntings" or poltergeist phenomena are most likely demons as well.

For example, there is a bridge in England (if I recall correctly) where dogs go to kill themselves. They are frequently observed leaping from the bridge to their deaths for no apparent reason, and some, after surviving the fall, return to the bridge to throw themselves off once again until they have perished. It's something that numerous people have observed here. Things like this make absolutely no sense until you consider that there are malicious forces at work in this world, twisted evil things bent on the corruption and destruction of God's creation.
Oct 6, 2014 9:58 PM

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WTF!? We had this thread last week!
Oct 6, 2014 10:05 PM
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I do not believe in ghosts or demons. Although some people in this world come close to the latter.
Oct 6, 2014 10:11 PM

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Yes, ghosts. Daemons not biblical ones,maybe just something else.

Because I know plently of people who have seen then and dont have psychosis or do hallucinogens. Millions of people in generl have seen and shared hallucinations dont really happen unless someone describes something in detail for another. Science cant find dark matter but that is considered valid with no proof. Science cant find other universes but they consider it valid. Science is limited to what it knows.
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Oct 7, 2014 12:57 AM

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Seriously though, no I don't believe in ghosts. I do however believe in demons. You cannot really believe in God or Jesus as his son and not believe in a real Devil and real demons. Because Jesus taught that they are real.

In the Bible, demons are associated with: possession (people possessed by a demon or demons exhibit insanity, seizures, suicidal behavior) and oppression (external calamities focused on an individual) as well as unnatural animal behavior, false prophesy, and probably some other things I've missed. Documented cases of "hauntings" or poltergeist phenomena are most likely demons as well.

For example, there is a bridge in England (if I recall correctly) where dogs go to kill themselves. They are frequently observed leaping from the bridge to their deaths for no apparent reason, and some, after surviving the fall, return to the bridge to throw themselves off once again until they have perished. It's something that numerous people have observed here. Things like this make absolutely no sense until you consider that there are malicious forces at work in this world, twisted evil things bent on the corruption and destruction of God's creation.

Interesting post. There are indeed many people throughout the ages who've claimed to had firsthand experience with demons, and there are many mysteries in the world that we have no answers to. However, I think we should be wary about blaming demons, and instead do our best to find a natural explanation that can be proven with scientific evidence. The Overtoun Bridge as you explained is a mystery, but it is understood that there are scents below the bridge that dogs are attracted to, like the smell of minks. This does of course not explain why they would do something so carless as leap to their deaths, and some locals say that minks don't even exist nearby, but it gives more room for speculation. Cursed bridge or confused dogs?

I'm also interested in hearing more about those malicious forces at work in the world, the twisted evil things bent on the corruption and destruction of God's creation. What are they, and how can we be so certain that they actually exist and that they're not the direct consequence of something non-demonic?
Oct 7, 2014 1:28 AM

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if you are schizophrenic/psychotic and you have some control over your thoughts then you will know that ghosts are just part of your imagination

spirit possession is common news here in the philippines but psychologists said its just mass hysteria



It's very common indeed :D Minsan nakakasawa na yung mga news na ganyan sa pinas XD
Oct 7, 2014 1:32 AM

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I exist. So do they.
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Baman: The fact that your posts made sense while not making sense, is creepy!
Had to say that first.

Never had any experience with one, don't want any experience with one. The world is big and full of mysteries, so yeah, why not believe in it.
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I don't, but the thought of my dead relatives watching me jerk off is limiting the joy in my life. Please help.
Oct 7, 2014 3:25 AM

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Baman said:
Technicaly, ghosts are merely another form of the Daemon, a after-image of the human mind from the Immaterium, or so it seems, caught betwixt our world and the sea of Chaos. Either way it is not a thing one should seek out, and should one chance upon an encounter, pay never mind to it's pleas and whispers, for such is not meant for mortal ears and will lead only to ruin.

As to the exact nature of these wisps, whether they are indeed the remains of a deceased human or merely a fancy of the warp, I refuse to speculate, the implications of what awaits after bodily death are simply too monstrous to bear thought.
There are ghosts in Warhammer Fantasy, but not 40k. Besides, your local commissar is much more scary than any dumb old ghost.

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