Should I watch fate/zero before watching this series?
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| Watch UBW 2014, then watch HF movie(s) then F/Z. |
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BotatoPriest said: Watch UBW 2014, then watch HF movie(s) then F/Z. ^ this person is correct. Fate/Zero spoils entirety of FSN and is intended to be watched after FSN. |
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skudoops said: This will spoil some stuff from FZ so you might as well. How though? Fate/Zero is chronologically after it, from what I understand. |
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BeatzMe said: tsudecimo said: How though? Fate/Zero is chronologically after it, from what I understand. Fate/Zero is set 10 years before the events of F/SN. So, how is he wrong? 10 years before doesn't means that it's chronologically after this? |
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| ????????What are some of you talking about, the main character in this was obviously a little girl in Fate Zero. How could it spoil FSN and why would anyone watch it first and then Fate Zero. |
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Praland said: BeatzMe said: Fate/Zero is set 10 years before the events of F/SN. So, how is he wrong? 10 years before doesn't means that it's chronologically after this? lol, ninja'd. Already deleted my post cause I thought I just misread his post, but nope. Tsud said F/Z takes place after F/SN which is not the case. So how was I wrong? |
skudoops said: tsudecimo said: How though? Fate/Zero is chronologically after it, from what I understand. Well it did come out after but since it's a prequel to FSN some of the events in FSN spoil somethings in FZ. I'm not really getting this. How can something set in the a past timeline, spoil things in the future timeline? Why is it a prequel @_@ confusing. |
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Epicenter said: The main story is F/SN.????????What are some of you talking about, the main character in this was obviously a little girl in Fate Zero. How could it spoil FSN and why would anyone watch it first and then Fate Zero. F/Z is complementary material and it assumes you KNOW F/SN story. So it doesn't have any qualms spoiling shit left and right. |
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| Chronological bullshit does not matter. You are not supposed to know ANYTHING from Zero. It was written AFTER FSN and it was written as complementary material to FSN to expand what you learn in FSN. It assumes you have SEEN FSN. I don't know how more clear can I make myself. Epicenter said: ????????What are some of you talking about, the main character in this was obviously a little girl in Fate Zero. How could it spoil FSN and why would anyone watch it first and then Fate Zero. 1. She is not the main character. 2. You are not supposed to know her backstory either.. tsudecimo said: skudoops said: Well it did come out after but since it's a prequel to FSN some of the events in FSN spoil somethings in FZ. I'm not really getting this. How can something set in the a past timeline, spoil things in the future timeline? Why is it a prequel @_@ confusing. Because the past events are huge twists for the present story. |
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| well basically Fate/zero is 10 years before Fate/Stay Night By watching Fate/zero first, you will already know the whole backstory to fate/stay night, thus the whole element of mystery and interest will pretty much be gone. On the other hand, by watching Fate/Stay Night first, you will know the end result of Fate/Zero, but it is the journey there that makes Fate/Zero so interesting, even with knowledge of the ending. Hope I helped!! |
| I think I got it. I confused myself with my initial statement. |
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skudoops said: Except this doesn't count as spoiling since you are supposed to know how it ends.tsudecimo said: Why is it a prequel @_@ confusing. Order of events is FZ --> FSN, so the aftermath of FZ ends up getting carried over into FSN. If he watches FSN first it will give details of things that happened in FZ. At least that's how I see it. I know DEEN's adaptation did that to me when I watched it between the FZ seasons. |
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| This is a matter of opinion. I watched Fate Zero and now I'm watching this and I think the fact that I watched the prequel to FSN before makes it more interesting. Some people might disagree, but it's not really a big deal. Watch this, some of the things in FZ will be spoiled, watch FSN before, and.. a few more things will be spoiled (like character backgrounds) but to me, it's interesting to see how things will turn out between them now that i know who they are/ what happened in the past in FZ. If you prefer high schoolers, maybe this will be much more fun to watch? It's definitely brighter than F/Z, which was mostly so serious and dark. |
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NorikoW said: I would argue F/SN is darker than Zero.If you prefer high schoolers, maybe this will be much more fun to watch? It's definitely brighter than F/Z, which was mostly so serious and dark. |
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| You don't watch Star Wars episode I-III before the original trilogy. It's the same deal here. |
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skudoops said: It wouldn't. It is designed to be watched in this order F/SN > F/Z. Doing the opposite ruins the flow.it would flow better. |
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BotatoPriest said: NorikoW said: I would argue F/SN is darker than Zero.If you prefer high schoolers, maybe this will be much more fun to watch? It's definitely brighter than F/Z, which was mostly so serious and dark. Maybe you're right, I can't be sure yet because I only watched episode 0. But in my opinion, FSN has a much more interesting/brighter start. I'm guessing the main characters are all high school students, so I'd expect a few comedy moments. In FZ they were older characters. |
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| We need a stickied thread telling people not to do this. |
NorikoW said: Age really doesn't matter.BotatoPriest said: I would argue F/SN is darker than Zero. Maybe you're right, I can't be sure yet because I only watched episode 0. But in my opinion, FSN has a much more interesting/brighter start. I'm guessing the main characters are all high school students, so I'd expect a few comedy moments. In FZ they were older characters. And those "old" characters in F/Z And as for comedy, |
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skudoops said: tsudecimo said: Why is it a prequel @_@ confusing. Order of events is FZ --> FSN, so the aftermath of FZ ends up getting carried over into FSN. If he watches FSN first it will give details of things that happened in FZ. At least that's how I see it. I know DEEN's adaptation did that to me when I watched it between the FZ seasons. This isn't true. You arent supposed to know what happened in Fate/Zero when you watch Stay Night. You are supposed to know what happens in F/S N when you watch Zero. |
| I remember asking this question before (obviously before the release of F/SN 2014) and the consensus was that, assuming that the viewer wasn't interested in the VNs, it was fine to watch F/Z and completely ignore F/SN since it was so bad. But now that a remake of F/SN is out, I guess the majority of people will recommend watching it first and then F/Z afterward. |
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SolviteSekai said: We need a stickied thread telling people not to do this. I agree. Sure, quite a few people would probably ignore it but if it would just stop a few of these questions.... |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
-Tien- said: I remember asking this question before (obviously before the release of F/SN 2014) and the consensus was that, assuming that the viewer wasn't interested in the VNs, it was fine to watch F/Z and completely ignore F/SN since it was so bad. But now that a remake of F/SN is out, I guess the majority of people will recommend watching it first and then F/Z afterward. Dude, the first 2 episodes of Fate Zero spoil 3/4 of Fate Stay Nights mysteries that you are asked to solve. I'd like to add that I watched Fate/Zero first. I regretted it every fucking minute of the fate route when i was playing the game. Every time something was meant to be mysterious or strange I knew what was happening. |
SolviteSekai said: -Tien- said: I remember asking this question before (obviously before the release of F/SN 2014) and the consensus was that, assuming that the viewer wasn't interested in the VNs, it was fine to watch F/Z and completely ignore F/SN since it was so bad. But now that a remake of F/SN is out, I guess the majority of people will recommend watching it first and then F/Z afterward. Dude, the first 2 episodes of Fate Zero spoil 3/4 of Fate Stay Nights mysteries that you are asked to solve. I'd like to add that I watched Fate/Zero first. I regretted it every fucking minute of the fate route when i was playing the game. Every time something was meant to be mysterious or strange I knew what was happening. Same for me :/. Saw F/Z like over a year ago and read most of the VN this past week and regret watching Zero first now. It's still really good, but it'd would have been a better experience if I hadn't known that much from F/Z already. |
BeatzMe said: Well, from my experience (since my case is the same as yours), giving Zero a re-watch after reading the VN still makes it a bit better.SolviteSekai said: Dude, the first 2 episodes of Fate Zero spoil 3/4 of Fate Stay Nights mysteries that you are asked to solve. I'd like to add that I watched Fate/Zero first. I regretted it every fucking minute of the fate route when i was playing the game. Every time something was meant to be mysterious or strange I knew what was happening. Same for me :/. Saw F/Z like over a year ago and read most of the VN this past week and regret watching Zero first now. It's still really good, but it'd would have been a better experience if I hadn't known that much from F/Z already. |
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BotatoPriest said: BeatzMe said: Well, from my experience (since my case is the same as yours), giving Zero a re-watch after reading the VN still makes it a bit better.Same for me :/. Saw F/Z like over a year ago and read most of the VN this past week and regret watching Zero first now. It's still really good, but it'd would have been a better experience if I hadn't known that much from F/Z already. That's the plan. |
BotatoPriest said: NorikoW said: I would argue F/SN is darker than Zero.If you prefer high schoolers, maybe this will be much more fun to watch? It's definitely brighter than F/Z, which was mostly so serious and dark. ^This. While a lot of it will be lost (since you can't adapt every monologue and FSN is far more...psychological in that aspect), I am sure ufotable will retain most of what makes FSN the way it is. skudoops said: BotatoPriest said: Except this doesn't count as spoiling since you are supposed to know how it ends. Well I know, but considering he hasn't seen either I was telling him to just go with FZ then watch FSN since it would flow better. No it would not. That's like reading a book from the ending to the beginning, just because there's a flashback in last pages. |
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| In a way, Fate/Zero is more like a bonus story. Extra info to complement the main story (that you should have already experienced). That's how I've always seen it at least. It's a shame though for those who have already watched F/Z first before anything else, and only now learn that it would've been better to do it another way. Nothing to do about it now though. |
ReaperCreeper said: You don't watch Star Wars episode I-III before the original trilogy. It's the same deal here. This. It is this easy. Going with release date always offers pretty presentation and introduction into the world because it's the first time the universe has been established, and most, if not all of the time, prequels assume you know everything already since it came after the original story. It'd be your own fault if you started with The Phantom Menace and started thinking "Ugh, why should I care about this random Anakin kid?" |
| And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible. |
| WTF. So I'm not supposed to know what happened to her mom and dad. And I'm not supposed to know how Kirei is? That's weird..........yet strangely I guess not so bad, might entertain me. TBH it made me much more interested in Rin in episode 0 than I would have been if I didn't know who she was. Funny enough, I had taken the energy to finish the second season JUST so I could be caught up for this anime season when I saw Fate Stay Night was going to happen lmao, I failed. |
EpicenterOct 5, 2014 6:48 PM
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Epicenter said: WTF. So I'm not supposed to know what happened to her mom and dad. And I'm not supposed to know how Kirei is? That's weird..........yet strangely I guess not so bad, might entertain me. TBH it made me much more interested in Rin in episode 0 than I would have been if I didn't know who she was. Funny enough, I had taken the energy to finish the second season JUST so I could be caught up for this anime season when I saw Fate Stay Night was going to happen lmao, I failed. Yes. You are not supposed to know anything beyond what this episode told you - that she is a magus, that she has been preparing for ten years for something called grail wars and that her father died. That's it. Everything else is pretty much plot twists. As for other Zero stuff you mentioned: |
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| i watched fz first and then deen fsn... can someone tell me exactly how i was spoiled by watching fz first? because i dont remember being spoiled |
| Kenjataimu mode status: 恒久 |
| Episode 1 throw out Heaven's Feel spoilers like it was going out of fashion. Aside from that, Saber's identity, and Kotomine's betrayal |
| People are still asking this? I swear, this is like the third or fourth time I explain this. Anyway, the answer is a big NO, you should not watch F/Z before F/SN. The first episode of F/Z alone spoils even the last route in the novel (Heaven's Feel), which will actually get a movie later on. So you should either be very patient and watch both F/SN and Heaven's Feel BEFORE F/Z, or do what I usually recommend: * Stay AWAY from Deen's adaptations. * Read the Fate route (and ideally start reading UBW) before watching the new adaptation. If you read it regularly, by the time you finish UBW (or maybe even the entire novel), there should be a total of 4-6 episodes out for you to watch in a row. * Read the entire visual novel before F/Z, so that Heaven's Feel isn't spoiled. By the way, the poll makes no sense to me. I'm not sure if "release date" refers to Deen's adaptations, whether it includes the visual novel or not... you might as well read what people are saying instead. |
FlamepriesTOct 5, 2014 9:24 PM
OnlyTemporary said: i haven't watched deens fsn (never going to) but i at least know that f/z should've at least spoiled i watched fz first and then deen fsn... can someone tell me exactly how i was spoiled by watching fz first? because i dont remember being spoiled it only gets worse in HF from what ive read i can only remember two plot twist that weren't spoiled in f/z |
CookingPriest said: Epicenter said: WTF. So I'm not supposed to know what happened to her mom and dad. And I'm not supposed to know how Kirei is? That's weird..........yet strangely I guess not so bad, might entertain me. TBH it made me much more interested in Rin in episode 0 than I would have been if I didn't know who she was. Funny enough, I had taken the energy to finish the second season JUST so I could be caught up for this anime season when I saw Fate Stay Night was going to happen lmao, I failed. Yes. You are not supposed to know anything beyond what this episode told you - that she is a magus, that she has been preparing for ten years for something called grail wars and that her father died. That's it. Everything else is pretty much plot twists. As for other Zero stuff you mentioned: Now I see. But since I already watched FZ that can't be undone so I'll just enjoy FSN and see how those spoilers which i already know will unfold. At least it will be interesting to see that lol At the time I watched FZ no one recommend the FSN movie or anime and to be honest I don't find it that much of a big deal that I'm watching the new adaptation of FSN after FZ. It's fine, it already happened, and no use in complaining about it. |
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jink144 said: I don't know whether I should watch it chronologically or release-date wise. I have no intention of watching the fate/stay night Deen edition. Chronologically and release date are the same in this case, lol. Watch this first, then the Heavens Feel Movies, then Fate/Zero. |
| watch fate/zero 1 & 2 first. and then watch FSN UBW. don't bother watching original FSN bc its crap anyway. |
mattydesu said: watch fate/zero 1 & 2 first. and then watch FSN UBW. don't bother watching original FSN bc its crap anyway. Other way around. |
| Fate is probably the most affected because almost any twists are Saber related and revealed in F/Z. UBW is the storyline that is the least affected by F/Z spoilers. I think there are only 2 plot points spoiled, with one never really being a "twist", as that was already revealed in the Fate route in the VN. We'll have to see how those plot points are handled in the currently airing anime. Heaven's Feel has 3 plot points "revealed" by F/Z. Two of which are related to Sakura and another one only being really revealed if you actually thinked deeply enough about. As someone who "broke the rule" by watching F/Z first myself (after having dropped the DEEN F/sn anime by episode 3, many years ago) and only having read the VN afterwards, I can understand what the priests are saying, however it did not affect my enjoyment, because for me the background knowledge of F/Z evened it out. But I can not say that universally, because for some people the spoilers from F/Z ruin the enjoyment more than for me. It really comes down to preferences, but if in doubt, go with what the priests recommend (though I'd be careful about "waiting for HF movie(s) to be released before watching F/Z", because that could still take 2-3 years, escpacially if you wait until the LAST MOVIE is available subbed) But whatever you chose to do, I recommend going back to the first medium after having finished both, to get to know both the release, as well as the chronological order: i.e. if you started with F/Z and then went to F/sn: F/Z -> F/sn -> F/Z and if it's the other way around: F/sn -> F/Z -> F/sn |
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