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Jul 30, 2014 4:36 AM
#301
Hmmm. Saw the manga-anime-here website. Most of the stuff is shounen stuff I do not read. Only shoujo stuff available is like 2% of what I read. Most shoujo manga are old manga. Let's click one of the only titles I'm interested in. Viz Media, 10 dollars, and available in the United States of America. Ok, let's try the kindle version! Nope, not available in my country. Is there anything there that's available in India? Probably not. Don't get me wrong, I don't like supporting piracy but I have no choice. I have no Crunchyroll, no Funimation, no Hulu etc. etc. And US anime DVDs will not work in my player, not to mention the cost of shipping it to India. I see why Japan is doing this but they're going about it the wrong way. Make stuff available without dumb region locks, then do all this stuff. |
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Jul 30, 2014 5:06 AM
#302
That site is a good joke. Seriously the name alone let it look like another pirate site. Oh and btw i wonder when i next time will go into a supermarket and see a big don't steal stuff banner right over the door. Somehow i got the feeling somewhere ppl get money for this but don't really care about how to create something which everyone over the world can enjoy and support the companys. Always that promises that publishers will work together and... region locks or almost none or old titles or split up over 100 other services... only disappointment. With that whole operation they will harm themself more than help earn money. |
Shaoran-LiJul 30, 2014 5:35 AM
Jul 30, 2014 5:07 AM
#303
Well, I really hope this goes nowhere. What alternatives are there? Crunchyroll fucks over everyone not from the USA so that's hardly an option. Ordering it online isn't much better either. There's so many anime out there which will never get licensed and the only way of obtaining it is through fansubs, they'd be killing off a huge portion of their audience. Can't see it going anywhere, but still, this plan is retarded. |
Jul 30, 2014 5:09 AM
#304
phoenixalia said: Hmmm. Saw the manga-anime-here website. Most of the stuff is shounen stuff I do not read. Only shoujo stuff available is like 2% of what I read. Most shoujo manga are old manga. Let's click one of the only titles I'm interested in. Viz Media, 10 dollars, and available in the United States of America. Ok, let's try the kindle version! Nope, not available in my country. Is there anything there that's available in India? Probably not. Don't get me wrong, I don't like supporting piracy but I have no choice. I have no Crunchyroll, no Funimation, no Hulu etc. etc. And US anime DVDs will not work in my player, not to mention the cost of shipping it to India. I see why Japan is doing this but they're going about it the wrong way. Make stuff available without dumb region locks, then do all this stuff. ^This. |
asckj1Jul 30, 2014 5:12 AM
Jul 30, 2014 5:15 AM
#305
500 manga are on their list, I wonder which manga they are. I looked at the list they have on their new site and it doesn't come close to 500. |
Jul 30, 2014 5:16 AM
#306
Hoppy said: Heathcliff90 said: I know this was going to happen.....Many people are stupid to pretend to be Japanese....im legally Japanese myself and i personally approve of this .... there are too many trying to pretend to be someone they are not...i worked with the government and this is the first time they are angered by this.... people abusing anime and manga .... Have you seen the site that they are so called going to stop piracy with? It looks dreadful and the PV for it was dreadful, it has no variety, and the Japanese government should be ashamed of even trying, and the studios are confirmed to be nothing but corporate tyrants, biting the hand that feeds them (didn't their mothers teach them not to bite the hand that feeds them or a similar proverb). If it wasn't for piracy, the industry would've died in the mid 2000's. Stop supporting these tyrannical entities, the government there isn't out to protect anime as they say, they've nearly destroyed the industry 3 times with their so called "laws". As for the studios, as much as I like them to protect their products, they are doing it in a way that constitutes severe corporate tyranny and needs to go back to the drawing board. For anyone who resides in Japan that comes into this topic, consider writing politely to the anime studios and the Japanese government for these following changes: 1. Cut the price of BDs/DVDs, the stuff is too expensive for what it's worth, very few anime are worth $350-400 much less $700-$3000+. I'm saying this from experience. 2. Launch a true region free download service for both televised anime and BD/DVDs. I'm sorry but those prices need to go way down so more people can support the industry and if a price cut on physical discs won't do, this is a surefire way. Whoever makes the service can consider finding US or South Korean technicians, programmers, web designers and such to make this service decent if not perfect or near perfect. It needs to have variety unlike the site the government put up, get everyone imaginable on board, lower licensing fees, the works. This service can be used for manga and light novels as well. Also the DRM must not be detrimental or intrusive, think Steam. This service must work on mobile devices (I read downloaded LNs and manga on a tablet). It also must be affordable, something like $10-$30 US a year tops. 3. If possible, bring more merchandise outside of Japan at least the figures. Before you attempt to change the way anime is made in Japan, use your brain and realise 1. Anime is actually AIRED in Japan so you don't need to buy the bloody stuff to watch it. 2. All it takes for a show to be a commercial success, or at least break even is 3000 dedicated fans. Think about that number, only 3000 people out of a population of 125 million! Do you know what that means?? It means that niche titles that would NEVER be produced in the west can be a success in Japan. Do you really want Japan to be infested with the crap that is considered successful in the west?? Reality show, cop shows, idol, cooking. It makes me shudder! |
Jul 30, 2014 5:28 AM
#307
scruffykiwi said: they already have all that. what do you think the other 125m people watch on tv?Do you really want Japan to be infested with the crap that is considered successful in the west?? Reality show, cop shows, idol, cooking. It makes me shudder! |
Jul 30, 2014 5:30 AM
#308
Only 580 websites? I'm sorry but it's waste of time. Imagine many animes and mangas websites exist in the world active in this moment? All this anti-piracy policy don't move on against the great and bilionarie piracy market of animes and manga. Of course, the piracy is so bad for animes mangas companies what lose a lot of money and gain with own your product but we need understand one important thing: Several people in the world, many times, don't have money to buy a original DVD or Blu-ray from your favorite anime and other products (actions figures, mangas, etc.). I'm may be wrong, but this is my opnion about all this... |
Jul 30, 2014 5:43 AM
#310
Well this is just heartbreaking (even though this operation has a low chance for success) im still nervous about what's going to happen next. I mean getting legit streaming services like crunchyroll and paying online. I mean crunchy doesnt even air half of my watch list per season and other animes doesnt even get licensed for like forever. Actually I got into anime because of these fansubs and it really made me discover it and supporting the anime itself by buying blu rays, figures,nendoroids and now this? :c |
Tch. |
Jul 30, 2014 5:49 AM
#311
sweetsymphony said: Well this is just heartbreaking (even though this operation has a low chance for success) im still nervous about what's going to happen next. I mean getting legit streaming services like crunchyroll and paying online. I mean crunchy doesnt even air half of my watch list per season and other animes doesnt even get licensed for like forever. Actually I got into anime because of these fansubs and it really made me discover it and supporting the anime itself by buying blu rays, figures,nendoroids and now this? :c +1 I think for many people it started that way. I don't mind someone watching something for free like in TV as long as he supports the industry as good as he can. |
Shaoran-LiJul 30, 2014 5:52 AM
Jul 30, 2014 5:49 AM
#312
SchwarzeFlammen said: They spend plnty of money making the anime itself. That's no excuse for piracy -_-Piracy will never truly be taken care of, I hate to say it. I honestly think business models and localization need to change if they really want to make a profit. Like they say, you need to spend money to make money. |
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Jul 30, 2014 5:54 AM
#313
Heredity said: scruffykiwi said: they already have all that. what do you think the other 125m people watch on tv?Do you really want Japan to be infested with the crap that is considered successful in the west?? Reality show, cop shows, idol, cooking. It makes me shudder! True Unfortunately. You could probably argue that Iron Chef sparked the cooking show fad in the west. |
Jul 30, 2014 5:55 AM
#314
StardustNyako said: me with piracy: wow anime sure is a fun timeSchwarzeFlammen said: They spend plnty of money making the anime itself. That's no excuse for piracy -_-Piracy will never truly be taken care of, I hate to say it. I honestly think business models and localization need to change if they really want to make a profit. Like they say, you need to spend money to make money. me without piracy: what's anime? |
Jul 30, 2014 5:56 AM
#315
kuuderes_shadow said: What??? you mean it isn't???I am legitimately laughing at everyone who seems to be treating this as the end of the world or something. |
Jul 30, 2014 6:02 AM
#316
Heredity said: scruffykiwi said: they already have all that. what do you think the other 125m people watch on tv?Do you really want Japan to be infested with the crap that is considered successful in the west?? Reality show, cop shows, idol, cooking. It makes me shudder! I was stationed it here for a while and not only do they have all that but a lot of it is even worse... I've seen shit on there that made The Jersey Shore look like an intellectual masterpiece but this is the Japanese asking the Chinese to do something... so you know the reply is going to be along the lines of "fuck off" |
Jul 30, 2014 6:21 AM
#317
Bye bye anime and manga business, it was a fun time having you in this world. Shame lots of the companies will definitly go bankrupt now. *sarcastic clap for the retarded japanese government* Thought you guys were smart, guess not. Piracy creates awareness about something, making more people get into it and later buy it. Anime and manga will never become mainstream media for sure now. I'm gonna laugh my ass off when I hear the companies starting to struggle even more. |
Jul 30, 2014 6:26 AM
#318
StardustNyako said: They spend plnty of money making the anime itself. That's no excuse for piracy -_- And they do make a plenty of profit from it. And if they don't it's because the anime just doesn't sell. Which has to do less with evul piracy than with ridiculous pricing. Even if they catch and hang every last buccaneer, people won't just start blowing hundreds of dollars for every degenerate LN adaptation that comes in the new season. |
Jul 30, 2014 6:30 AM
#319
Des said: Bye bye anime and manga business, it was a fun time having you in this world. Shame lots of the companies will definitly go bankrupt now. *sarcastic clap for the retarded japanese government* Thought you guys were smart, guess not. Piracy creates awareness about something, making more people get into it and later buy it. Anime and manga will never become mainstream media for sure now. I'm gonna laugh my ass off when I hear the companies starting to struggle even more. ^ Ya, this. |
Jul 30, 2014 6:32 AM
#320
Jul 30, 2014 6:42 AM
#321
license issues/country restriction issues could lead more "flame" those who want to watch it.....men this Anime/manga production Company are not following Game company when selling their things than license with overprice issue |
Jul 30, 2014 6:44 AM
#322
TicklingThoughts said: Sit down. Try not to cry. Cry a lot. A few of the sites I visit aren't on there XD And some fansubbers do have a ddl option, and more will probably go over to ddl and XDCC. The thing the license people and the anime/manga business needs to get through their thick skull is that people turn to piracy because lots of anime is blocked in their country. Stop with the damn regional blocking shit and people will come over to the legal sites. And don't remove the animes when the bluray is released, let the sites keep the anime on their site forever. What's best? Use some extra cash to be able to broadcast the anime worldwide or have the anime companies lose more money because of piracy? Piracy will always find a way around it, and it's basically free for them compared to what it costs for the copyright holders to fight it :P |
Jul 30, 2014 6:49 AM
#323
Oh man kissanime gone :( |
uhh... |
Jul 30, 2014 6:52 AM
#324
If there was no piracy, anime and manga would not be nearly 1/100th this popular. I don't have a problem with they taking down anime fansubbers, because it's easy to get legitimate services nowadays (like Crunchyroll), but the vast majority of Manga never even get out of Japan in the first place and even so most of the ones that are localized are not availiable in legitimate online services. |
Jul 30, 2014 6:54 AM
#325
Probably do more harm than good to the anime industry in the west where the only real exposure most shows get is from those sites. |
Jul 30, 2014 6:58 AM
#326
SnazzGary said: Not really. Between Crunchyroll and funimation elite you can see 80 percent of airing shows for 12 bucks a month. Or you can just torrent anime. |
Jul 30, 2014 7:02 AM
#327
I don't see the purpose of all this, honestly. They don't even care for the western consumer market in the first place, so why would they try to regulate it? It will probably only do more harm. |
Jul 30, 2014 7:02 AM
#328
Pfft. And then China be like "nope" |
Maya24Jul 30, 2014 7:22 AM
Jul 30, 2014 7:08 AM
#329
Wait a minute, they said 5 months. If they make a backup of most anime and manga.. And the 5 months are over. Aren't they able to just upload again? Is Japan really going to monitor this untill the world ends? |
Jul 30, 2014 7:11 AM
#330
Lacertoss said: I don't see the purpose of all this, honestly. They don't even care for the western consumer market in the first place, so why would they try to regulate it? It will probably only do more harm. Agrees. They might as well be making their sales worse :c |
Tch. |
Jul 30, 2014 7:12 AM
#331
What I think is funny is how the powerpoint includes the old Mega services (Megaupload, Megavideo, etc) that went down years ago |
Jul 30, 2014 7:20 AM
#333
Makar said: I've read somewhere the bill is based on a study made in 2012.What I think is funny is how the powerpoint includes the old Mega services (Megaupload, Megavideo, etc) that went down years ago |
Jul 30, 2014 7:25 AM
#334
I just sent a long email to the email address on the manga-anime-here website's contact page, basically advising them to: - focus on making more series available to more people as the most efficient way of combating piracy. - tailor the manga-anime-here website to the nationality of the person viewing the site. Full email below (name removed) if you really want to read it: are you sure? I mean it when I say that it's a long email. Dear Sir/Madam, I have sent this message to the email address listed on the Contact page of the manga-anime-here website. If this is not the email address that this message should be sent to, please forward it on to a relevant individual. Firstly, I must say that I wholeheartedly support any attempts at combating the piracy that is rampant among the anime and manga community. There are far too many people for whom piracy has become a default way of doing it, or who do not even realise that their favourite streaming site is illegal. I admit that I, sadly, was among that second group when I first became an anime fan. The manga-anime-here website may help to rectify the issue with the second type of person - although not necessarily (as I will come to later), but this is not a significant factor among the parts of the fandom that watch a lot of anime, and will only partially resolve the issue even for those that it does help. There are three bigger issues at that would need to be resolved were piracy to be defeated. The first one is focused on the fandom itself, and is thus difficult to overcome. This is the culture of people who are so used to fansubs that the very notion of watching a series legally is anathema to them, or who view illegal sources of anime that take legal releases and make a few minor tweaks to them as inherently superior to the legal originals, and thus a preferable option to watch. This is a cultural issue which will be very hard to rectify in the short term. Thus I believe the focus should be on the other two points. The second point places its onus on the websites providing legal options. Issues such as player quality, or the lack of availability of the series they want to watch in the form they wish to watch it, is a major factor in pushing people towards illegal means of watching their anime. For example, if someone wants to download a series to watch that is only available through streaming, they will often turn to illegal methods to download the series. The onus here is, of course, on the websites providing the service, and this issue is improving, albeit very slowly, over time. However, the rights holders could do more to improve the situation. The website Daisuki is actually owned by various Japanese companies, however it has no download options, and is not available for viewing on consoles or Google's Android operating system. Furthermore, in its early days it developed a reputation for poor and variable image quality, which drove many away from the site. The third point is the most notable one, however, as it is both the most crucial and the one for which the responsibility lies largely on the side of the Japanese firms. Put simply, the aim should be to make every anime legally available everywhere in the world. The current situation in this respect is poor. When a company like Crunchyroll or Daisuki who provide legal anime worldwide come to negotiate a license to simulcast a series, the default state should be worldwide availability (outside of Japan). However, in the current season there are just two such series, both of which are short episode anime. And I know that Crunchyroll are not the ones behind this state of affairs. It would be okay were the series available from another provider in the excluded territories, but in virtually every single instance there are countries that are excluded from Crunchyroll's regional availability that are not able to view the series elsewhere. Where do these people then go to watch the series that they want to see? Illegal pirate websites, of course. This issue is not just limited to streaming sites - too often I have heard licensing companies here in the UK say that, while they would like to license a series for UK release, they feel unable to do so due to the Japanese rights holder making negotiations too complicated. This should, quite simply, never happen. Nor is this just an issue for recent series. Indeed, for older series the issue becomes even more acute. When Daisuki first started, I, along with many others, filled in a set of surveys which listed hundreds of older anime series, asking us which of them we would wish to see on the site. Most of these have never been available in the UK, and many of them have never been legally viewable anywhere outside of Japan. Yet today, over a year later, there are only nine series available on the site, the oldest of which is Sword Art Online - just two years old. Hundreds of thousands of people have thus watched these series in the only way possible: illegally. I personally will watch any series legally if I can. I have a subscription to Crunchyroll, and an account on both Wakanim and Animax. But if a series that I wish to watch is not available legally, then I will sooner turn to illegal sources than not watch at all. I personally frequently buy the source material of anime that I watch in this way, incidentally, so there is some money coming back to the industry from my actions, but I would much rather be watching the series through legal means. Furthermore, I noticed that the manga-anime here website takes no consideration of existing region restrictions in directing people to content. For example, the Officially Licensed Content section for Space Dandy lists a total of ten different sites. However, not one of the ten are available here in the UK. This is, of course, a series that is legally available for viewing in the UK, on wakanim.co.uk - a website that isn't even mentioned on the list. If I were wanting to watch this series back when I was still unaware of the legal options, and had been diverted to that page, I would have clicked through the list of links, found that every single one was not available in my country, and then gone to find another way to pirate it. Thus I would actually be prevented from watching the series in question through legal means - a far cry from the aims of the site. Were the site to list every series that is legally available, and to display different results depending on the country of the viewer, it would at the very least form a useful site to direct people to who were looking for legal options in their country. In summary, I fully support efforts to combat piracy, but wish that the efforts that are directed at hitting a few of the illegal websites (that most fans are dismissing as futile) were instead directed at making as many anime series as possible legally available in as many places as possible. I appreciate that the approach you are currently taking is a valid step that must be taken if piracy is to be reduced to the minimum possible level, but it can only be in any way effective if the legal means of watching the series are available in the first place. Regards, An anime fan in the UK who spends far too much of his time on anime and manga fansites, <NAME REMOVED FROM FORUM POST FOR PRIVACY REASONS> P.S. Unless instructed otherwise, I may choose, at my own discretion, to post any replies or information received in replies to this email on publicly viewable online forums. Someone had to do it. I wonder if they'll actually read it. |
There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do. |
Jul 30, 2014 7:30 AM
#335
EratiK said: pretty crap study then, considering megaupload was killed early that year. january, according to wikipedia.Makar said: I've read somewhere the bill is based on a study made in 2012.What I think is funny is how the powerpoint includes the old Mega services (Megaupload, Megavideo, etc) that went down years ago |
Jul 30, 2014 7:31 AM
#336
kuuderes_shadow said: I just sent a long email to the email address on the manga-anime-here website's contact page, basically advising them to: - focus on making more series available to more people as the most efficient way of combating piracy. - tailor the manga-anime-here website to the nationality of the person viewing the site. Full email below (name removed) if you really want to read it: are you sure? I mean it when I say that it's a long email. Dear Sir/Madam, I have sent this message to the email address listed on the Contact page of the manga-anime-here website. If this is not the email address that this message should be sent to, please forward it on to a relevant individual. Firstly, I must say that I wholeheartedly support any attempts at combating the piracy that is rampant among the anime and manga community. There are far too many people for whom piracy has become a default way of doing it, or who do not even realise that their favourite streaming site is illegal. I admit that I, sadly, was among that second group when I first became an anime fan. The manga-anime-here website may help to rectify the issue with the second type of person - although not necessarily (as I will come to later), but this is not a significant factor among the parts of the fandom that watch a lot of anime, and will only partially resolve the issue even for those that it does help. There are three bigger issues at that would need to be resolved were piracy to be defeated. The first one is focused on the fandom itself, and is thus difficult to overcome. This is the culture of people who are so used to fansubs that the very notion of watching a series legally is anathema to them, or who view illegal sources of anime that take legal releases and make a few minor tweaks to them as inherently superior to the legal originals, and thus a preferable option to watch. This is a cultural issue which will be very hard to rectify in the short term. Thus I believe the focus should be on the other two points. The second point places its onus on the websites providing legal options. Issues such as player quality, or the lack of availability of the series they want to watch in the form they wish to watch it, is a major factor in pushing people towards illegal means of watching their anime. For example, if someone wants to download a series to watch that is only available through streaming, they will often turn to illegal methods to download the series. The onus here is, of course, on the websites providing the service, and this issue is improving, albeit very slowly, over time. However, the rights holders could do more to improve the situation. The website Daisuki is actually owned by various Japanese companies, however it has no download options, and is not available for viewing on consoles or Google's Android operating system. Furthermore, in its early days it developed a reputation for poor and variable image quality, which drove many away from the site. The third point is the most notable one, however, as it is both the most crucial and the one for which the responsibility lies largely on the side of the Japanese firms. Put simply, the aim should be to make every anime legally available everywhere in the world. The current situation in this respect is poor. When a company like Crunchyroll or Daisuki who provide legal anime worldwide come to negotiate a license to simulcast a series, the default state should be worldwide availability (outside of Japan). However, in the current season there are just two such series, both of which are short episode anime. And I know that Crunchyroll are not the ones behind this state of affairs. It would be okay were the series available from another provider in the excluded territories, but in virtually every single instance there are countries that are excluded from Crunchyroll's regional availability that are not able to view the series elsewhere. Where do these people then go to watch the series that they want to see? Illegal pirate websites, of course. This issue is not just limited to streaming sites - too often I have heard licensing companies here in the UK say that, while they would like to license a series for UK release, they feel unable to do so due to the Japanese rights holder making negotiations too complicated. This should, quite simply, never happen. Nor is this just an issue for recent series. Indeed, for older series the issue becomes even more acute. When Daisuki first started, I, along with many others, filled in a set of surveys which listed hundreds of older anime series, asking us which of them we would wish to see on the site. Most of these have never been available in the UK, and many of them have never been legally viewable anywhere outside of Japan. Yet today, over a year later, there are only nine series available on the site, the oldest of which is Sword Art Online - just two years old. Hundreds of thousands of people have thus watched these series in the only way possible: illegally. I personally will watch any series legally if I can. I have a subscription to Crunchyroll, and an account on both Wakanim and Animax. But if a series that I wish to watch is not available legally, then I will sooner turn to illegal sources than not watch at all. I personally frequently buy the source material of anime that I watch in this way, incidentally, so there is some money coming back to the industry from my actions, but I would much rather be watching the series through legal means. Furthermore, I noticed that the manga-anime here website takes no consideration of existing region restrictions in directing people to content. For example, the Officially Licensed Content section for Space Dandy lists a total of ten different sites. However, not one of the ten are available here in the UK. This is, of course, a series that is legally available for viewing in the UK, on wakanim.co.uk - a website that isn't even mentioned on the list. If I were wanting to watch this series back when I was still unaware of the legal options, and had been diverted to that page, I would have clicked through the list of links, found that every single one was not available in my country, and then gone to find another way to pirate it. Thus I would actually be prevented from watching the series in question through legal means - a far cry from the aims of the site. Were the site to list every series that is legally available, and to display different results depending on the country of the viewer, it would at the very least form a useful site to direct people to who were looking for legal options in their country. In summary, I fully support efforts to combat piracy, but wish that the efforts that are directed at hitting a few of the illegal websites (that most fans are dismissing as futile) were instead directed at making as many anime series as possible legally available in as many places as possible. I appreciate that the approach you are currently taking is a valid step that must be taken if piracy is to be reduced to the minimum possible level, but it can only be in any way effective if the legal means of watching the series are available in the first place. Regards, An anime fan in the UK who spends far too much of his time on anime and manga fansites, <NAME REMOVED FROM FORUM POST FOR PRIVACY REASONS> P.S. Unless instructed otherwise, I may choose, at my own discretion, to post any replies or information received in replies to this email on publicly viewable online forums. Someone had to do it. I wonder if they'll actually read it. Wow, that was a long ass damn well written email. Goood job whoever you are |
Jul 30, 2014 7:32 AM
#337
Wow looking at this list Mangafox is on there? I don't think there was any manga on there you are allowed to read. But my 2 other manga sites are on here? Damn better watch out for them. Please excuse me while I laugh. Why is Myspace on this list? I thought no one uses myspace anymore. Man a lot of the sites I use are on here. Damn.... |
"Lelouch, do you know why snow is white? Snow is white, because it's forgotten what color it's supposed to be." |
Jul 30, 2014 7:38 AM
#338
I may sound like a dweeb but i actually.. Never feared something in my life. Until now.. I swear to the gods, if this works and i'm unable to watch/read for 5 months.. No, NO Just like Simon's drill pierced the heaven Anime and Manga will pierce the internet! |
Jul 30, 2014 7:40 AM
#339
1 site down, 2 more come up. And for pirates, it's basically free. For the japanese government and the copyright holders, it'll costs thema shit ton of cash to do this project, and they'll only be wasting cash :P Also dumb copyright holders: The reason why pirate sites have ads is to pay for the server place, keeping the site running. They don't put the cash down in their own pockets, at least not 90% of them. Also, why the heck is Megauplaod in their list?! Megaupload has been down for what, 2 years now? :P I didn't find one of the manga sites I read manga on, and I can read the manga I really want to continue on there xD Myspace is on the list because Myspace is actually still operational, and streaming sites do use their video service to host the anime on. |
Jul 30, 2014 7:43 AM
#340
Des said: 1 site down, 2 more come up. And for pirates, it's basically free. For the japanese government and the copyright holders, it'll costs thema shit ton of cash to do this project, and they'll only be wasting cash :P Also dumb copyright holders: The reason why pirate sites have ads is to pay for the server place, keeping the site running. They don't put the cash down in their own pockets, at least not 90% of them. Also, why the heck is Megauplaod in their list?! Megaupload has been down for what, 2 years now? :P I didn't find one of the manga sites I read manga on, and I can read the manga I really want to continue on there xD :O all of my sites are targeted lol |
Tch. |
Jul 30, 2014 7:43 AM
#341
Des said: 1 site down, 2 more come up. And for pirates, it's basically free. For the japanese government and the copyright holders, it'll costs thema shit ton of cash to do this project, and they'll only be wasting cash :P Also dumb copyright holders: The reason why pirate sites have ads is to pay for the server place, keeping the site running. They don't put the cash down in their own pockets, at least not 90% of them. Also, why the heck is Megauplaod in their list?! Megaupload has been down for what, 2 years now? :P I didn't find one of the manga sites I read manga on, and I can read the manga I really want to continue on there xD I didn't see PinoyAnime either or GogoAnime |
Jul 30, 2014 7:45 AM
#342
It would also be a good point if the national shops would sell anime dvds/ blue-ray with at least the national sub/dub. I mean if any anime hard copy (DVD / Blue RaY) would be ship world wide in cooperation with the other countries. |
Jul 30, 2014 7:47 AM
#343
Harutora_Rin said: I didn't see PinoyAnime either or GogoAnime Pinoychannel, could that be the same? GoGo wasn't there, yet. Unfortunatly I missed that anime44 was on the list :| |
Jul 30, 2014 7:49 AM
#345
Des said: Harutora_Rin said: I didn't see PinoyAnime either or GogoAnime Pinoychannel, could that be the same? GoGo wasn't there, yet. Unfortunatly I missed that anime44 was on the list :| They still could put GoGo? I thought this was it for the 5 month apocalypse |
Jul 30, 2014 7:51 AM
#346
jepong003 said: What about hentai sites? :) I'm sure HentaiVideoWorld won't go. You have to be thankful though. Boku No Pico won't be around anymore |
Jul 30, 2014 7:53 AM
#347
Heredity said: A 2012 study probably uses 2011 data.EratiK said: pretty crap study then, considering megaupload was killed early that year. january, according to wikipedia.Makar said: What I think is funny is how the powerpoint includes the old Mega services (Megaupload, Megavideo, etc) that went down years ago |
Jul 30, 2014 8:00 AM
#348
Lacertoss said: I don't see the purpose of all this, honestly. They don't even care for the western consumer market in the first place, so why would they try to regulate it? It will probably only do more harm. Because Japanese use those sites, too. Quite a lot of them, in fact. Apparently, they're scared otaku won't buy anime anymore if they download it (which of course is BS, but they only believe what they want to believe). Des said: And some fansubbers do have a ddl option, and more will probably go over to ddl and XDCC. A lot of those DDL sites are also on the list (like HostFile, RapidGator, etc.). Worst-case scenario, XDCC will be the only option left to download what we want, meaning I have to re-active my IRC client and relearn all that I had forgotten, assuming all the torrent sites go down (which I doubt, but you can never be too careful). |
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Jul 30, 2014 8:01 AM
#349
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