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Mar 8, 2014 3:29 PM

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Tachii said:
I like kids as in how most people like kids - they are cute but there's no sexual tension involved.

But the slang loli seem to has some sexual attraction involved, which is *usually* not my thing. Usually.


I actually don't like most kids, lol... rather than cute, they tend to be more annoying and obnoxious.
Mar 8, 2014 3:31 PM

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"I'm a lolicon and I want to beat off on little anime girls and beat up real ones."

Am I doing this right? Sounds like every anime lolicon is one big tsundere if ya ask me.

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Mar 8, 2014 3:32 PM

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traed said:
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Why is this not locked yet?


I'm still new to this forum, but I would imagine that it would be because they don't just lock threads because some people don't like them. If there's trolling and/or flaming in the thread, then it gets locked. That's like a law of the interwebs. While the word pedophile has been tossed back and forth numerous times, the majority of the posts have been, for the most part, valid arguments to one side or the other.

On the other hand, I could be wrong, and they might have an anti loli rule that I don't know about, and just haven't caught this yet.


If there's discussion to be had, then it won't get locked. This is really just a yes/no thread, so I'm surprised it hasn't been locked as well.
Threads that have been done before get locked. There are hundreds of other loli threads with the exact same questions.


Good point, I do see repetitive threads locked in most other forums. I guess I'm just a little surprised that such a topic actually comes up here that often.
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Korrvo said:
"I'm a lolicon and I want to beat off on little anime girls and beat up real ones."

Am I doing this right? Sounds like every anime lolicon is one big tsundere if ya ask me.



Sounds more like a lunatic.

Oh wait.
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Mar 8, 2014 3:35 PM

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sargos7 said:
Tachii said:
I like kids as in how most people like kids - they are cute but there's no sexual tension involved.

But the slang loli seem to has some sexual attraction involved, which is *usually* not my thing. Usually.


I actually don't like most kids, lol... rather than cute, they tend to be more annoying and obnoxious.
Well, I mean cute mostly as in by their looks. Annoying and obnoxious usually comes after once they started talking.... and talking.
Mar 8, 2014 3:39 PM
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Korrvo said:
"I'm a lolicon and I want to beat off on little anime girls and beat up real ones."

Am I doing this right? Sounds like every anime lolicon is one big tsundere if ya ask me.

real kids are just a pain in the ass, you're better off just staying the fuck away
Mar 8, 2014 3:40 PM

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Hulmy said:
Korrvo said:
"I'm a lolicon and I want to beat off on little anime girls and beat up real ones."

Am I doing this right? Sounds like every anime lolicon is one big tsundere if ya ask me.



Sounds more like a lunatic.

Oh wait.
Sounds normal to me.

Kids are annoying little bastards.
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Tachii said:
sargos7 said:
Tachii said:
I like kids as in how most people like kids - they are cute but there's no sexual tension involved.

But the slang loli seem to has some sexual attraction involved, which is *usually* not my thing. Usually.


I actually don't like most kids, lol... rather than cute, they tend to be more annoying and obnoxious.
Well, I mean cute mostly as in by their looks. Annoying and obnoxious usually comes after once they started talking.... and talking.


Ok, I get you. In that case, I suggest everyone watch the vsauce video about why things are cute, if you haven't already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0zConOPZ8Y

Maybe that will shed some light on the whole loli thing for some of the people who keep screaming pedo. Perhaps it's really just a response to unfulfilled parental instincts?
Mar 8, 2014 5:01 PM

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Sexual attraction to lolis is like a balance scale.

The smaller the girl in question is, the bigger your penis will get in response.

http://www.toystogrowon.com/graphics/products/full/461_f.jpg

No. We don't want 3D

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/186/b/e/__the_loli_police___by_superkateylynn-d6c4iv7.png


I'd offer them some money for a good BJ.


Mar 8, 2014 5:11 PM

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OP you should have asked directly "Are you turned-on by lolis?"
Now they just blended in among those who find lolis cute for parental affection reasons. What use is there in a thread like this other than to see how many pedos are among us?

Korrvo said:


Kids are annoying little bastards.


That's racist.
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Noldorin said:
OP you should have asked directly "Are you turned-on by lolis?"
Now they just blended in among those who find lolis cute for parental affection reasons. What use is there in a thread like this other than to see how many pedos are among us?

Korrvo said:


Kids are annoying little bastards.


That's racist.


There aren't any pedos in this topic.

lol


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Noldorin said:
OP you should have asked directly "Are you turned-on by lolis?"
Now they just blended in among those who find lolis cute for parental affection reasons. What use is there in a thread like this other than to see how many pedos are among us?


How would the thread you suggested be any different?
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In my opinion its only creepy if you're like 30+ years old and get off to loli's.

I'm 17, and loli's are my favourite fap material.
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Noldorin said:
OP you should have asked directly "Are you turned-on by lolis?"
Now they just blended in among those who find lolis cute for parental affection reasons. What use is there in a thread like this other than to see how many pedos are among us?

Hahahaha, wait what? Spouting so much bullshit, doesn't your throat hurt?




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Hitler was good, objectively.
Mar 8, 2014 5:28 PM

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Immahnoob said:
Noldorin said:
OP you should have asked directly "Are you turned-on by lolis?"
Now they just blended in among those who find lolis cute for parental affection reasons. What use is there in a thread like this other than to see how many pedos are among us?

Hahahaha, wait what? Spouting so much bullshit, doesn't your throat hurt?


Maybe but it's much better than butthurt. I'm sure you'd know.
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Noldorin said:
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Noldorin said:
OP you should have asked directly "Are you turned-on by lolis?"
Now they just blended in among those who find lolis cute for parental affection reasons. What use is there in a thread like this other than to see how many pedos are among us?

Hahahaha, wait what? Spouting so much bullshit, doesn't your throat hurt?


Maybe but it's much better than butthurt. I'm sure you'd know.

Overall accepted definition of the unofficial word "butthurt": "An inappropriately strong negative emotional response from a perceived personal insult. Characterized by strong feelings of shame. Frequently associated with a cessation of communication and overt hostility towards the "aggressor.""

It would be an insult if I would actually mind being called a pedophile, as I am one. Clearly, knowing I am a pedophile and seeing nothing wrong with it brings me no shame. I am always aggressive, but how could I still be my amazing self without that? Oh, and I won't possibly stop this conversation until I get some actual proof of your claims.

So, make my day, come on, prove yourself right.




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Mar 8, 2014 5:44 PM

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On what matter do you want proof? Proof that lolicons are pedos? Proof that you're butthurt? Either way, obvious facts don't need proof. That is if you have common sense.

Besides how do we know you're not lying? And how do I know what made you feel insulted? The fact I implied you pedos were hiding among normal users might have hurt your pedo-pride for all I know.
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In my opinion its only creepy if you're like 30+ years old and get off to loli's.

I'm 17, and loli's are my favourite fap material.


17, 27, 57.......

If your fapping to little girls, your fapping to little girls.....end of story.
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Noldorin said:
On what matter do you want proof? Proof that lolicons are pedos? Proof that you're butthurt? Either way, obvious facts don't need proof. That is if you have common sense.

Besides how do we know you're not lying? And how do I know what made you feel insulted? The fact I implied you pedos were hiding among normal users might have hurt your pedo-pride for all I know.

Oh, but your statement is not an axiom. So they're not "obvious facts". "Common sense" is also subjective.

How do we know you're not lying? And how do I know that you have not read any studies at all? The fact that you haven't linked any studies might actually mean you have no proof at all for all I know.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
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Axioms are not obvious facts. Get your facts right. It's subjective only if you're below average at it.

Whether I'm lying or not is not relevant to the discussion. But your possibility of lying is. That is if you're asking me to prove that you're butthurt since we need to know if you're lying for that.

Studies are not a reliable form of proof. That's why I prefer using logic to prove my claims.
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In my opinion its only creepy if you're like 30+ years old and get off to loli's.

I'm 17, and loli's are my favourite fap material.
You're still going to be fapping to loli's when you're 30+ then you will be saying "its only creepy if you're like 60+ years old "
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Yes they are. Axioms are objective and they do not need proof to be deemed as such. Prove it.

Actually, it is relevant, you made the claim that I am butthurt and also a liar without any type of proof, as you made a claim, you have the burden of proof, if you make such claim, that means it must be relevant, unless you believe that what you say is irrelevant, thus making your points nil.

Then prove yourself right with logic.




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Yes they are. Axioms are objective and they do not need proof to be deemed as such. Prove it.

Actually, it is relevant, you made the claim that I am butthurt and also a liar without any type of proof, as you made a claim, you have the burden of proof, if you make such claim, that means it must be relevant, unless you believe that what you say is irrelevant, thus making your points nil.

Then prove yourself right with logic.


Axioms can't be proven but are still assumed to be true by a group(scientific axioms are assumed to be true by scientists). That means they're subjective. No need to prove, since it doesn't matter if common sense is subjective or not.

I never claimed you were a liar. You tried to prove you were not butthurt by giving personal information as argument. And I said I didn't know how dependable you were so your information can't serve as reliable proof. Actually it wouldn't serve as proof even if you were the most dependable person cuz you could still be lying. I don't present undenpendable unprovable information as arguments, that is why it doesn't matter whether I'm lying.

I already did. Seems you couldn't tell.
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Every guy here who faps to lolis seems to hate real little girls with a passion. Seems suspicious if you ask me. It's almost like they're admitting the taboo and loli fuels it.
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Every guyl here who faps to lolis seems to hate real little girls with a passion. Seems suspicious if you ask me. It's almost like they're admitting the taboo and loli fuels it.


Well I said that sometimes they're alright but the sexualization bit is creepy, but I also find little kids in general to be annoying, not just little girls. So I'm not quite seeing how the guys who fap for lolis not liking real little girls admits to any taboo... if anything it seems to support their statements that it's all fantasy... I dunno.

I remember the forums for TERA having tons of loli discussions that got locked all the time, cause people were raging about the fact that they changed the outfits to be less revealing. Pretty much the same arguments there, too... it's all fantasy...

So I guess the question should be, if it is all just fantasy, does that make it ok? The way the conversation usually went was that it would keep some pedophiles from acting out their desires on real little girls, so that was a good thing, but on the other hand some people thought it would condition people into pedophiles. The problem is that those arguments are still relating it to reality. If they really don't like real little girls, and only lolis, I think that's probably a good sign, at least.
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Heredity said:
Every guyl here who faps to lolis seems to hate real little girls with a passion. Seems suspicious if you ask me. It's almost like they're admitting the taboo and loli fuels it.


Well I said that sometimes they're alright but the sexualization bit is creepy, but I also find little kids in general to be annoying, not just little girls. So I'm not quite seeing how the guys who fap for lolis not liking real little girls admits to any taboo... if anything it seems to support their statements that it's all fantasy... I dunno.

I remember the forums for TERA having tons of loli discussions that got locked all the time, cause people were raging about the fact that they changed the outfits to be less revealing. Pretty much the same arguments there, too... it's all fantasy...

So I guess the question should be, if it is all just fantasy, does that make it ok? The way the conversation usually went was that it would keep some pedophiles from acting out their desires on real little girls, so that was a good thing, but on the other hand some people thought it would condition people into pedophiles. The problem is that those arguments are still relating it to reality. If they really don't like real little girls, and only lolis, I think that's probably a good sign, at least.


Any thought inside my head is a fantasy until I act on it and make it in to a reality.
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If it really is just fantasy, though, what is the draw? If the draw was the extreme young age, then they would also be attracted to real little girls. So either they're lying about not being attracted to real little girls, or there's some other reason that they either don't understand themselves, or are too ashamed/embarrassed to say. Probably more likely that they don't understand it themselves, since anonymity on the internet tends to remove far more inhibition than any drug.
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The only thing that is coming to mind would be a possible disgusted view toward overly raunchy women becoming the norm. If I'm not mistaken, the whole loli thing isn't just about young looking characters, but innocent characters, too, right? And yeah, there are other, more mature looking characters that are portrayed as innocent, but I think lolis are the only archetype with that trait.

I could just be talking out my ass, though, who knows.
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"Self-justification: The Thread"

I can't wait to see what the anime adaption looks like.
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When it comes to hentai, I like short girls, but I want them to have tits too. In nonhentai, they're freaking cute, but I can't imagine them sexually
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"Self-justification: The Thread"

I can't wait to see what the anime adaption looks like.


lol
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Korrvo said:
"Self-justification: The Thread"

I can't wait to see what the anime adaption looks like.
An angry, angry mess.
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Axioms can't be proven but are still assumed to be true by a group(scientific axioms are assumed to be true by scientists). That means they're subjective. No need to prove, since it doesn't matter if common sense is subjective or not.

I never claimed you were a liar. You tried to prove you were not butthurt by giving personal information as argument. And I said I didn't know how dependable you were so your information can't serve as reliable proof. Actually it wouldn't serve as proof even if you were the most dependable person cuz you could still be lying. I don't present undenpendable unprovable information as arguments, that is why it doesn't matter whether I'm lying.

I already did. Seems you couldn't tell.

Axioms are self proven, they're facts, if you don't like definitions it's not my problem, it's mostly yours. It matters if "common sense" is subjective, you claim that I need "common sense" to understand that what you said is an "objective fact".

Actually, you're the one that claimed that I was butthurt, I didn't need to prove it to you in any way, the burden of proof was on you that I was truly butthurt, so you were wrong anyway.

Willful ignorance.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
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Axioms are presupposed and do not require evidence.
They function as fundament of a system and are necessary for further deduction.

1 + 1 = 2 is an axiom.
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I don't think anything relating to lolicons falls under axioms. Lol.
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I like what Demo D had to say about loli's and lolicons. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owa5KcQ9Mxc watch the whole thing
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I like what Demo D had to say about loli's and lolicons. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owa5KcQ9Mxc
Oh damn it's the D.
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animeoppai said:
I like what Demo D had to say about loli's and lolicons. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owa5KcQ9Mxc
Oh damn it's the D.
D so big it demolitions things this "joke" is so lame
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You people disgust me.
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animeoppai said:
Heredity said:
animeoppai said:
I like what Demo D had to say about loli's and lolicons. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owa5KcQ9Mxc
Oh damn it's the D.
D so big it demolitions things this "joke" is so lame
I often gobble up the D haha i'm a le funnay utube jokerman

Big D sums it up pretty damn well. Naturally the posts referenced come from MAL, because this website has some incredibly rank dark spots (like Casual Discussion). Look at this thread.

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Heredity said:
I don't think anything relating to lolicons falls under axioms. Lol.
Sure it doesn't, but Noldorin doesn't know that.
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I like what Demo D had to say about loli's and lolicons. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owa5KcQ9Mxc watch the whole thing

I've already watched it, filled with contradictions and mostly lacks logic.




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Not really, i dont find them cute and generally haven't found myself liking too many of them character wise

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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Immahnoob said:

Axioms are self proven, they're facts, if you don't like definitions it's not my problem, it's mostly yours. It matters if "common sense" is subjective, you claim that I need "common sense" to understand that what you said is an "objective fact".

Actually, you're the one that claimed that I was butthurt, I didn't need to prove it to you in any way, the burden of proof was on you that I was truly butthurt, so you were wrong anyway.

Willful ignorance.


I could say the same to you. No I'm saying it's an objective fact whether you can understand it or not. So it doesn't matter whether you understand or not. And it doesn't matter which tools you need to understand it or how reliable that tool is.

I don't deny my burden of proof on that matter. And yes you didn't need to prove anything. But.... for some reason you took it up on yourself to prove that you weren't butthurt and you chose a wrong method for that. Simple as that.

Ya that's another possibility. Maybe it's that you pretend not to have understood my logic rather than not understanding at all.

Immahnoob said:
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I don't think anything relating to lolicons falls under axioms. Lol.
Sure it doesn't, but Noldorin doesn't know that.


I'm the one who mentioned axioms in this thread aren't I? *rolls eyes*

cabacc2 said:


1 + 1 = 2 is an axiom.


How sure are you on a scale of 1 to 10?
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cabacc2 said:
1 + 1 = 2 is an axiom.

Actually it isn't. 1 + 1 = 2 might not even be true in many cases.
If you generalize, you're wrong.
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The thing is it's not an objective fact even if I don't understand that.

The method wasn't wrong at all, you've used an insult which is something personal so I don't need any "correct method", as any method can easily refute an insult because it's something "personal"/"subjective", learn your things, thanks.

No, it's mostly you not accepting any proof that you're wrong, good job.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
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no i dont like lolis apart from being gross there fucking annoying, all that kawai lolii and moe shit is just boring and im not entertained, it makes the show boooooorring because they focus the whole show around that shit. honestly i wouldn't be as pissed off if they kept all the kawaii moe little girl shit in a genre and called it lolicon genre but they bring it over to every single genre its sad... this is more of a fanservice + Loli rant lol, 8 out of 10 animes that are coming out right now are full of this shit just keep it in the ecchi genre please.
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Immahnoob said:
The thing is it's not an objective fact even if I don't understand that.

The method wasn't wrong at all, you've used an insult which is something personal so I don't need any "correct method", as any method can easily refute an insult because it's something "personal"/"subjective", learn your things, thanks.

No, it's mostly you not accepting any proof that you're wrong, good job.


It's not subjective just because some people think it's wrong. The problem might be with those people, not the fact.

I never used you being a liar as an argument for my premise. You need a viable argument to prove your claim though. Unprovable personal information is no such thing. Besides I never called you a liar. I just said it was a possibility that you might be lying. I hope I didn't hurt your feelings.
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No, it's wrong because there's no proof of it and it's not a matter of the supernatural for you to be able to use evidence of absence.

You did, and yes, context is important even in logic, if it's personal information, subjective points of view etc, you cannot claim that I am a liar about what I know about my person, your ideas are beyond wrong.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
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sedmelluq said:
cabacc2 said:
1 + 1 = 2 is an axiom.

Actually it isn't. 1 + 1 = 2 might not even be true in many cases.


Please explain, i'm curious as to what you mean
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