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Oct 25, 2013 2:58 AM

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Jagd84 said:
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What is in the box? It is too convenient just throw in the wooden box and yey all done wtf

Been looking forward to this show but wth

And why is natsume so uselessly noob? Wow 25


The box contains ancient spell charms kept by the Tsuchimikado family. When it hit the spirit vein/link it overloaded it due to share power. Furthermore Natsume isn't weak, just inexperienced in combat. Nothing wrong with that.


How did you know? Did the anime explains what is in the box? I can't recall


Forgot to add that this was in LN and manga. Like some other stuff, the staff just didn't have the time to put it in.


I think it doesn't need to add those thing to understands what inside that box .We already know that most of stuff Harutora carried are special weapon so there must be something special inside that
Oct 25, 2013 3:25 AM

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Oh I definitely agree.

It's an really minor thing one could infer after thinking on it awhile.
Oct 25, 2013 5:33 AM

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Great episode, and nice to know who Hokuto really belong to :) Harutora is so dense that even his friend Touji is better than him :P
Oct 25, 2013 8:47 AM

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Ignis_Scientia said:
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And now I'm even more certain that Bakatora is the reincarnated Yakou.

Only child of Main house can be Yakou and Bakatora is not

I still don't know about the show's logic, but the flashback Bakatora saw must have some meanings related to himself.
Him being Yakou was my best bet.
Or maybe Natsume is the reincarnated Yakou and Bakatora is his reincarnated lady familiar? That works too.

Everything is not that simple as you thought

OK. You could have enlightened me, but I guess you didn't want to spoil me. That's fair enough. Thanks.
Oct 25, 2013 10:06 AM

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I don't know why but I have this feeling that I won't like Natsume ever and I will hate her.
Well, it was pretty obvious that she's the real maker of Hokuto. That's why, it feels like she was only using Hokuto. And I have this feeling that she will replace Hokuto (even though Natsume is the maker of Hokuto :/)
Oct 25, 2013 10:11 AM

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Am I the only one who noticed this, that throughout the whole episode.. only "Harutora" came out from Natsume's mouth.. Harutora. Harutura. Damn, so annoying. Forgive me, but I dislike her so much >_<
Oct 25, 2013 10:44 AM

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Zel_Ezl said:
Am I the only one who noticed this, that throughout the whole episode.. only "Harutora" came out from Natsume's mouth.. Harutora. Harutura. Damn, so annoying. Forgive me, but I dislike her so much >_<


ugh , you dislike someone because of that reason....@@

BTW She is Tsundere type character if you have bad record with this kind of character ,you going to dislike her
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Ignis_Scientia said:
Zel_Ezl said:
Am I the only one who noticed this, that throughout the whole episode.. only "Harutora" came out from Natsume's mouth.. Harutora. Harutura. Damn, so annoying. Forgive me, but I dislike her so much >_<


ugh , you dislike someone because of that reason....@@

BTW She is Tsundere type character if you have bad record with this kind of character ,you going to dislike her


To be fair, she one of better ones of her type, one of the reasons being that Natsume is not violent or rude.

@Zel_Ezl: Natsume wasn't using him, Hokuto's death was accident due to happenstance. Hokuto was created mainly because she wanted a way to stay be Harutora's side.
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Oct 25, 2013 1:00 PM

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Tsuntsun-tsundere-tsun-dere-tsuntsun-tsundere-derestun.
Looks like this show has some plot after all, I wonder where this'll go.
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Oct 25, 2013 5:39 PM

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usually i'm not too keen on longer-than-necessary prologues *cough*KH2*cough* but i give this a pass since this is a 20+ show rather than a single season one.

i like how things develop so far. i'm sensing Hokuto was Natsume's familiar considering the way Natsume talks towards the end.

of course Baka-tora is the usual dense protagonist

i totally called psycho undead brother as soon as twin drills has him with her.
Oct 25, 2013 11:58 PM
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Feel like this lie is going to be a problem later on...
Oct 26, 2013 1:22 AM

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Loved that OST at the very end <3

dat pink ribbon :)

Oct 26, 2013 3:30 AM

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I feel sorry for Suzuka. So Hokuto is alive??

Natsume's so cute in this episode :3

The CG was fine I guess.
Oct 26, 2013 10:44 AM
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I liked the humor interspersed in the fight and their obvious amateurism while fighting was better than seeing Harutora suddenly be a crazy fighter. The part about the dent in the sword for some reason I found particularly funny though it probably has more to do with Kana Hanazawa's reaction more than anything. x3 I can't wait till Kon appears seeing as it's Aki and she sounds so cute at the end of every credits. xD

I'm not used to the CG either...and it seemed heavily suggested that Hokuto was Natsume's familiar? Or o.o? That guy Touji was heavily implying something but I couldn't follow completely. Maybe I'll try the GG fansubs instead, was using Anime-Koi.
Oct 26, 2013 12:24 PM

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The TR world seems interesting, and I wonder if we'll be introduced to the other Divine Generals in the future.
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Oct 26, 2013 4:21 PM

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No more Suzuka after this? Both of her mecha got trashed. Sad to see the cool one with the lasers go down. This anime is gonna be pretty lame if she isn't in the rest. It's looking like it's switching over to "school life"... I really hope it doesn't go that direction...
Oct 26, 2013 6:03 PM

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yngtadpole said:
I liked the humor interspersed in the fight and their obvious amateurism while fighting was better than seeing Harutora suddenly be a crazy fighter. The part about the dent in the sword for some reason I found particularly funny though it probably has more to do with Kana Hanazawa's reaction more than anything. x3 I can't wait till Kon appears seeing as it's Aki and she sounds so cute at the end of every credits. xD

I'm not used to the CG either...and it seemed heavily suggested that Hokuto was Natsume's familiar? Or o.o? That guy Touji was heavily implying something but I couldn't follow completely. Maybe I'll try the GG fansubs instead, was using Anime-Koi.


Touji was basically implying to Natsume that even thought her face has changed he knows that she was impersonating Hokuto this entire time. The fact that he says "Nice to meet you Natsume" in a sarcastic way, seemingly introducing himself to her for the first time even though they've know each other for a while and immediately mentioning the ribbon she is wearing (the same ribbon she got from Harutora while she was disguised as her Hokuto persona) gives her further proof that he's know that she was using a familiar to disguise her true self this entire time while in their presence.

Also Touji's last quote "No she's been like that from the start" after Harutora says "sorry, she's normally not like this" is further proof that the person we knew as Hakuto is basically Natsume true personality, one where she is able to be herself and more carefree instead of the more burdened/duty bound Natsume she's expected to be.

The only person who hasn't really noticed this revelation yet is "BakaTora" but that quick flash he saw when looking at Natsume's ribbon shows that he'll eventually put the pieces together as the more time he spends with Natsume the sooner he will starts to realise how close her mannerism are to a certain other girl he knew.

P.s Really happy that Hokuto is essentially still alive but it may take some getting used to, as i expect there to be greater mood swings from now on.
CrimsonScholarOct 26, 2013 6:41 PM
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Oct 26, 2013 6:39 PM

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i was hoping in future that that there is a suzuka x harutora

Oct 26, 2013 6:59 PM

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No more Suzuka after this? Both of her mecha got trashed. Sad to see the cool one with the lasers go down. This anime is gonna be pretty lame if she isn't in the rest. It's looking like it's switching over to "school life"... I really hope it doesn't go that direction...


She's listed as one of main characrters on the LN, and the official anime site. So I'm pretty sure she comes back. The school life here necessary since this where Shamans go to train. It's definitely not there for sake of it.
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Oct 27, 2013 8:58 AM

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Baka-tora how do you not notice?!! >_<! So Hokuto is also a dragon :O

Natsume <3
Oct 27, 2013 10:55 AM

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HAHAHA! Hokuto was Natsume's shikigami after all ......
Oct 27, 2013 1:28 PM

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Still not getting used to the crappy CGI. I always wondered why they can pull of so great CGI in Hollywood movies, but he CGI in anime is always so crappy.

Also finally getting used to the lowpositioned blush of the characters ^^.
Story is suprisingly decent and interesting, I wasnt expecting much tbh.
Oct 27, 2013 4:32 PM

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not a bad episode. Haha, they were talking about how Hokuto is still alive and he might see her again someday, right in front of Suzuka after she lost her goal.

Oct 28, 2013 5:06 AM

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Its enjoyable History...i just think that will be more likable without that CGI.
Oct 28, 2013 6:18 AM

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(=-.-) ...I hadn't planned on commenting but after reading this thread...
C(“)(“) ...I guess I am suited for being called baka as well since I didn't get it myself about Hokuto... I feel so dumb.

At first I didn't like seeing Hokuto's death at all being emotional scene to me. I liked her character and the author kills her off already? I hate stuff like that. Then finding out she wasn't real but was real dilemma left me in conflict over it. Then Natsume saying to Harutora he'll see her again and I was happy for him.

Even with the dragon having a similar name I still didn't piece them together. And now reading this thread and re-watching the episode now I get it. Hokuto = Natsume via her familiar. I'm relieved for Harutora when he finds out. (*´д`*)
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So Hokuto's character is what Natsume's really like? Hmmm seems like a pretty big leap in personality.

So Harutora's life was pretty much manipulated by Natsume since they were still children huh? lol
Oct 28, 2013 6:44 PM

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Still not getting used to the crappy CGI. I always wondered why they can pull of so great CGI in Hollywood movies, but he CGI in anime is always so crappy.

Also finally getting used to the lowpositioned blush of the characters ^^.
Story is suprisingly decent and interesting, I wasnt expecting much tbh.


Hollywood have a lot of Money and have long time History . The Studio make this Anime is small and newly established since 2008
Oct 30, 2013 8:01 AM

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So Harutora's life was pretty much manipulated by Natsume since they were still children huh? lol

This episode has just proven that Natsume is a dangerously stalker.
Nov 1, 2013 2:35 PM

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This is a really strange anime and I don't like the tsundere/ojou-sama/rather useless Natsume at all. If only she was strong enough to defend herself in a fight or wouldn't blush every moment she thinks about Harutora or, idk, she wouldn't have stalked (and deceived) him since they were children >.>
Nov 1, 2013 5:54 PM

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For a lot of reason, I didn't like it. First of all, the angles they used for the fight scenes, it's way too confusing, and not good at all.

Second, they're in a fight with their life on the line, there would still be some leisure for a little blushing and bickering, huh?

Third, through power of will, break through the binding of one of the best mage(?) around, hmm where have I seen this pattern before?

Fourth, dense MC is dense. Dropped IS2 because of that sole reason. Don't we have enough of it already in the manga+anime history?

Fifth, for some reason, I don't like how Natsume is so head over heels for Bakatora -.-

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This is a really strange anime and I don't like the tsundere/ojou-sama/rather useless Natsume at all. If only she was strong enough to defend herself in a fight or wouldn't blush every moment she thinks about Harutora or, idk, she wouldn't have stalked (and deceived) him since they were children >.>

This.

Sixth, annoying imouto with brocon.

Seventh, we don't even get to see what happened to imouto-chan?

Eighth, imouto-chan sure can hold her breathe long enough to not die of suffocation after being choked for a minute? World's record?

Ninth, another typical MC with super sense of justice?

A few things that I liked in the show - First, the dragon called Hokuto, twas cool. Second, Touji, he's cool and perceptive.

Edit: After watching, I find myself not giving two fuucks about the whole incident. Oh, and, wasn't the imouto supposed to be dead after her brother got resurrected? I mean, she IS offering her own life for his life, so how come she's still alive after her brother got resurrected? Unless the resurrection went wrong somewhere?
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Nov 3, 2013 4:56 AM

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5/5

Narrative that is deceptive for a certain period and at the same time involves, for the banging and action fielded. Oh ~! Now I am sure of what you see in the opening, talented authors had me fooled for a moment. Plot that convinces and satisfies!
Nice design, CG particularly not hate, smooth and not too low, maybe they are the colors to give a wrong impression about the quality, because the dragon in many have not yet even criticized it is done in 3DCG! XD
Hold out much hope for this title, I liked it just saw the PV and even now, I'm satisfied! * _ *
Now we just want the new characters! ;)
Nov 5, 2013 5:31 PM
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Exciting was the episode, and the dragon is so cool Hokuto.

No ending.
Nov 9, 2013 5:12 AM

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Yet again, the only problem I had was the "onii-chan" spam by the loli.
Ah, and yea the music and sound effects almost blew my eardrums. ~_~
Nov 9, 2013 3:39 PM

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Hokuto = Natsume's shikigami has redeemed this show for me.

I wouldn't haven been able to handle this show anymore if that annoying clingy Hokuto wasn't Natsume's shikigami.
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Nov 9, 2013 11:09 PM

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Choke-a-bitch.
Nov 14, 2013 9:16 PM

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Good episode, cleared some things up. Funny ending as well :P
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Jagd84 said:
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Am I the only one who noticed this, that throughout the whole episode.. only "Harutora" came out from Natsume's mouth.. Harutora. Harutura. Damn, so annoying. Forgive me, but I dislike her so much >_<


ugh , you dislike someone because of that reason....@@

BTW She is Tsundere type character if you have bad record with this kind of character ,you going to dislike her


To be fair, she one of better ones of her type, one of the reasons being that Natsume is not violent or rude.

@Zel_Ezl: Natsume wasn't using him, Hokuto's death was accident due to happenstance. Hokuto was created mainly because she wanted a way to stay be Harutora's side.


Violence and Rudeness falls under Yandere, thats often a misinterpretation and understanding of tsundere
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Dec 11, 2013 9:09 AM

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Interfering with the revival ritual of a crazy chick isn't always a good idea XD. Cool dragon ( Hokuto ^^) Also loved the sword transformation to it's offensive mode. Poor Suzuka she just wanted a little time but men that evil action by her bro...also that Soul taking spell great end.
Dec 22, 2013 3:05 AM

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Natsume best girl!
Dec 25, 2013 6:36 PM

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That spider thingy looks a bit weird... The way they cgi it...
Haha, Natsume and Horuka xD
That ending ^^
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Jan 2, 2014 5:53 AM

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Good episode imo. Wasn't expecting Hokuto to be shikigami. Looks like everything we needed to know now we know. Feel like every episode from this point is going to be great.
Same here. That kinda disappointed me.
Jan 22, 2014 8:09 AM

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Good that we got over the crazy bitch arc this fast. But Horuka seems like the typical shounen lead..
Jan 22, 2014 1:05 PM

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Holy shit that little bitch was disgusting. Yuk, and wtf is with that horribly gay horse? Nice fight but really?
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Feb 28, 2014 5:45 AM

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I'm curious about the correlation between the ribbon that Horutora gave to Hokuto and the Ribbon that is on Natsume. Anyone have any ideas?


yngtadpole said:

I'm not used to the CG either...and it seemed heavily suggested that Hokuto was Natsume's familiar? Or o.o? That guy Touji was heavily implying something but I couldn't follow completely. Maybe I'll try the GG fansubs instead, was using Anime-Koi.


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Huh Harutora is remembering something about her ribbon wonder what that could be.


Wow! So they really exist, real people that are as tense as anime MC's.

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Something is still amiss and very confusing there. :S
Hokuto is Natsume shikigami, but they act similar so it kinda seems that Hokuto can maybe be a part of Natsume soul or something like thet which she sent so she can be around Harutora while away from him in Tokyo? Kinda split personality but literal ? :S But then there is dragon who is also called Hokuto and that defies my first reasoning and conclusion.
Everything seems paradoxical to me! I am over-thinking it it now :S
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The dragons is irrelevant. Natsume just used the same name.
And the little paper familiar that was Hokuto was really Natsume. It was like a gaming character you control. Hokuto WAS Natsume.
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Monad said:


Wow! So they really exist, real people that are as tense as anime MC's.


There are people up to episode 12 no connection and we viewers have benefit Omnipresent third person perspective unlike Harutora. Which is why he should get a lot less shit for not knowing about it.
Feb 28, 2014 2:42 PM

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yay :) I like how it doesn't seem like they will drag out him finding Hokuto's user because of how aggressively they hinted to it being Natsume. Idk why but that just brings the biggest smile to my face knowing they're the same lol.
Mar 10, 2014 12:36 AM
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Still kinda confused. So Hokuto was basically Natsume? Liking the character development
Mar 31, 2014 9:47 PM

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I was totally feeling sorry for Hokuto because it was so obvious that Natsume was going to win. Now I kind of wish he'd asked Hokuto out just to see what Natsume's reaction would be ;)
Apr 8, 2014 4:35 AM

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The cg looks horrible in my opinion. So hokuto is natsume's shikigami huh I'm surprised that harutora didn't notice that. He is quite deep and his nickname bakatora suits him.
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Pretty sweet episode! Let's see what happens next!
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