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| Great show and one of the best this fall 9/10 |
| Mixed feeling for me. Glad Haruki finally made a choice but can't help how sad Setsuna is. |
AirStyles said: What a bitter ending for the 3. The morale of the story is? BE TRUE TO YOUR FEELING AND FUCKING CONFESS IF YOU DONT WANT TO END UP IN A MESS LIKE THIS!! Not like many of us will ever have 2 idol-tier girl falling for us anyways hmmm.... 7... Or 8... I'll decide later. you can say that again. I almost end up punching my laptop screen seeing Haruki face. |
| Liked the buildup from previous episodes, but the execution in this final episode, not so much. It was hilarious how Kitahara just ran past Setsuna screaming Touma's name before kissing her in front of Setsuna. I can't believe Setsuna didn't just leave after that. Hopefully there's a second season in the works to resolve this cliffhanger ending. |
| This... this can't be everything right? Something's missing, like a few years into future when they meet again right? As for the show, it's great! Both Setsuna and Kazusa are lovable, even Haruki is a good MC for once (some might not like him, but honestly what do you expect from a high school kid). 8/10! Hopefully it gets a second season 'cause I need closure! |
| 5/10 after this episode. And thats only cose of the songs. Cliche story cliche characters and nonexistent supports. Whats so great about Touma? Stupid tsundere, ill never understand how japanese can dig those kind of girls. Personally, I cant stand them. Haruki? One of the worst main characters in the genre. But then again, that seems to be the stereotype, so... And Setsuna. The only one who knew what she wanted, was honest about it and fought for it. But she ended wanting too much (the impossible infact) so I dont understand how anyone in their right mind would consider possible for her to keep Haruki AND Kazusa both. So she is found wanting and got punished. Golden Time and Nagi no Asukara stole the season. So much better than this crap. |
AlexGKDec 29, 2013 2:29 PM
| I have the feeling that people just wanted this to be the happily ever after(which i believe it will be, because this ain't the end yet)or a frigging harem...¬¬" Another thing, you guys are exacly like the characters in this anime, you can't decide what is better, few weeks ago people were going crazy with how Touma was been crushed with SetsunaxHaruki and now that she finally catch up, she is a bitch for having sex with him, really? All 3 characters have flaws but a lot of people don't want to realize this and just says the characters are horribly done, yeah like the forced characters from harem shows like IS(Infinite Stratos) are better than the realistic ones from this. Setsuna - SHE'S BEEN LITERALY SAYING THIS THE WHOLE FRIGGING SHOW, she knew that Haruki and Touma had feelings for each other for a long time, yet she jumped between them and took Haruki "away" from Touma, she even did that after watching Touma kissing Haruki while he was sleeping, she loved him so much that she couldn't control it anymore and ended up not caring for Touma at that time(though after that she realizes that what she did was wrong). Setsuna cares for her friends aswell, she felt guilty the entire time, but unlike Touma she took the other way, which was take the best for herself, she's a bitch for getting what she wanted? of course not, but the way she did was what screwed everything, at the end she just couldn't control(it happens a lot in real life, if you think about it). Touma - She had to endure the pain of having to watch her crush dating her best friend she did that so her friendship with them wouldn't be destroyed, she sacrificed herself for the best of them, she could have started dating Haruki before knowing Setsuna but she's a tsundere so what to do....right? People blaming her from having sex with him straight away, honestly that was the only way I saw to balance with what Setsuna did, now they're even, I mean after all that suffer she had, just like Setsuna, she couldn't control it and did something selfish, which was to have sex with someone who's already dating(the reason why she was crushed while leaving his apartment) she felt guilty at the end, and just wanted to put an end to everything and leave the best for Setsuna, but they met again at the airport, and again couldn't control herself. Touma always sacrificed herself for them, she was always trying to evade contact with Haruki so he and Setsuna would have their time, even if she ended up hurt, she just wanted the best for them(gonna be honest here, I myself do that a lot, sacrificing myself for other people, at the end of most of the time I just have some rage attacks and crushed feelings but that's how I do things and IT CAN'T BE HELPED) Haruki - his flaw would be that he can't decide which one he wants, though you can clearly see that right now his feelings towards Touma are stronger. And that is pretty mean towards the girls, they don't know which one he wants, so they just have to jump over him to know what happens, AND to do that while they know thhe feelings of one another, it's even worst. Haruki is at fault, yes, but it can't be helped he just can't decide, maybe because he don't want to hurt their feelings, but he's definitely better than main male characters that can't even have a proper conversation with a girl without blushing every minute. So the only way I see people raging about the chacters is that: 1 - You wanted the three of them to be in a happily ever after; 2 - You just can't accept that they have flaws, you wanted them to be perfect; 3 - You're immature and just didn't figured out yet that you can enjoy more than one character(I myself like kuuderes, therefore I got some feelings for Touma, YET I still understand Setsuna and think she's great aswell). AND DON'T FORGET, THIS AIN'T OVER YET, THIS IS JUST THE INTRODUCTORY CHAPTER, WE STILL HAVE THE CLOSING CHAPTER AND CODA, so stop bitching that this didn't "ended" the way you wanted BECAUSE THIS ISN'T THE END. 10/10 MASTERPIECE. That's how I saw this PART of the show, AMAZING, TRULLY AMAZING, it puts you with high expectations but at the same time it takes you down and this is just the introductory chapter, I can't wait to see what happens in the closing chapter(I haven't read the novel). Not to mention the characters are realistic, not your typical harem show where the male one is a bitch and the girls are all shy around him. I'm really sorry for the HUGE text wall and for my bad english, and if you managed to read till here, thank you very much. Remember this is only my opinion, you can like/dislike how much you want, just please be reasonable. |
-ZET-Dec 29, 2013 4:52 PM
Joanna25 said: hyperknees91 said: Actually Satelight kinda confirmed there would be...subtly. They put sketches for season 2 up on their twitter. really ?? i didnt know HAPPY ! :D so the Coda will be animated right ?? :D This just made my day |
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| Mother of God. How many people here can't fucking read between the lines? This is why anime can't be made to be detailed only through implications and without explaining every single detail like the viewer's a five year old. Edit: And look at how many people have actually written blocks of text to perfectly describe the situation to people. It's sad to see people write that much for others to understand because we're supposed actually get most of these details ourselves. |
| Didn't get my ship so i wasn't particularly moved by Touma and Haruki hooking up. And damn that kiss right in front of Setsuna at the airport was just a dagger to the heart LOL. Regardless it was a pretty solid watch for a rather short series. 8/10 On a personal note I just hate Haruki for cheating. Misses his "girlfriend's" birthday (YEA THAT'S A HUGE NONO). Lies about why he couldn't make it. Then he goes on to kiss Touma and hides that too. Then goes have sex with Touma.The fuq. Why do male leads in romances always have to be scumbags or clueless. Also I don't see how Setsuna can be so forgiving. She is like the wife that stays after getting beat by her husband. |
zzzeallyDec 29, 2013 5:28 PM
| So when I first saw a preview for White Album 2,two things popped in my head: 1 - Oh boy,here we go again...Even if it's not a sequel to the first White Album it'll probably be something similar.I'll probably watch it with the "it's a trainwreck" mentality. 2 - That one still HAD potential to be a good romance although it failed utterly but maybe,just maybe this one will do it right. After the first episode I was already getting hyped as it was better than anything the other White Album offered but was trying to not get my hopes up,as the first few episodes of that one showed promise -albeit not as much- too.Week after week,WA2 continued to exceed my expectations and putting the though in my head: "Could this be the romance anime I've been unintentionally waiting for a few years now? One of ef: A tale of Memories & Melodies and True Tears's caliber?" Lo and behold,it was.What it lacked in animation compared to those,it made up with it's three main characters which were,IMHO,better fleshed out & developed. I won't beat around the bush,this is definitely my favorite anime of 2013 as well as one of my favorite romance animes of all time,right up there with the three I mentioned above. I'm now personally content in the romance department enough to last for a while.Not to say I wouldn't watch/enjoy another romance of WA2's caliber but I won't be craving for one that much for now.It goes without saying that I'm really,really hoping they animate the rest of the story though. |
ManlyTearDec 29, 2013 9:08 PM
| Oh, poor Setsuna... They can still make ménage à trois, someday. |
Beaver897 said: Mother of God. How many people here can't fucking read between the lines? This is why anime can't be made to be detailed only through implications and without explaining every single detail like the viewer's a five year old. Edit: And look at how many people have actually written blocks of text to perfectly describe the situation to people. It's sad to see people write that much for others to understand because we're supposed actually get most of these details ourselves. I know right? I actually felt bad for having to write a text wall just so some people understand, but i highly doubt someone will read that. |
kaimax said: na35899 said: setsuna = sweet-talk, selfish, opportunity stealer, bitc#h haruki = impatient, indecisive, fuckking pathetic class rep Kazusa= Coward, indecisive, Social retard, has mommy issues There fixed it with some nice good balance. don't be a dick because you aren't a shipper ;) |
na35899 said: kaimax said: na35899 said: setsuna = sweet-talk, selfish, opportunity stealer, bitc#h haruki = impatient, indecisive, fuckking pathetic class rep Kazusa= Coward, indecisive, Social retard, has mommy issues There fixed it with some nice good balance. don't be a dick because you aren't a shipper ;) Don't be a dick because you haven't played the VN so you don't know "everything". Heck, Kazusa being a social retard was already on the beginning of the show in the first place yet you're just being full of bias. |
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Venats said: Tennouji_ said: LOL then you should thank Setsuna that Haruki and Kazusa end up together. Without Setsuna, those assholes won't do shit. Spoilers for Twinkle Snow ahead! THANK YOU This is solid proof that this setsuna is fuccking meddlesome bitch @Tennouji She is not socially retard and she is not a coward she is going through adolescents, she found love and unlike scheming setsuna she doesn't know how to bitch around a guy But more important thing is without this setsuna their love would have work out even if touma is 'socially retarded' |
na358999Dec 29, 2013 7:40 PM
AlexGK said: Whats so great about Touma? Stupid tsundere, ill never understand how japanese can dig those kind of girls. Personally, I cant stand them. ^ |
Radius said: And they insist on playing the shipping game. Like that guy who just "White Knighted" Kazusa while ignoring her flaws.. I think the problem isn't that people don't understand the story; they just don't like certain characters. White Album 2 is a story about flawed people, acknowledging one is "better" when they're clearly aren't would just make you a biased prick. |
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mayukachan said: AlexGK said: Whats so great about Touma? Stupid tsundere, ill never understand how japanese can dig those kind of girls. Personally, I cant stand them. ^ ^ Series was redeemed slightly in the last few episodes. But Touma's attitude was seriously getting on my nerves. If you treat someone like shit for 12 episodes, the general consensus is that the person doesn't immediately think that you have some hidden love for him. Speak what you mean. Nobody's a fucking mind reader. Setsuna's more meh. -> Knows that she's coming between two people. -> Vehemently forces the three of them together. -> Forces Touma to see him and Haruki happily together. -> Still insists on being Touma's best friend. -> Gets all psycho wack bitch when Haruki's with Touma. Logic, Miss. Do you speak it? |
HowTragicDec 29, 2013 8:01 PM
@Tennouji She is not socially retard and she is not a coward she is going through adolescents, she found love and unlike scheming setsuna she doesn't know how to bitch around a guy But more important thing is without this setsuna their love would have work out even if touma is 'socially retarded' Uh no, Kazusa is a social retard. It continues into her adulthood. In fact she is THE social retard (it only gets worse, and quite honestly I think the writer took it way too far). Oh well though. It's a shame you can't just accept they are 3 flawed individuals but I guess we should just leave it at that. |
| Kazusa = annoying tsundere Setsuna= annoying submissive housewife that forgives too easily, apologizes for everything Haruki= apologizes for everything but thinks with his penis, heartless cheater |
hyperknees91 said: @Tennouji She is not socially retard and she is not a coward she is going through adolescents, she found love and unlike scheming setsuna she doesn't know how to bitch around a guy But more important thing is without this setsuna their love would have work out even if touma is 'socially retarded' Uh no, Kazusa is a social retard. It continues into her adulthood. In fact she is THE social retard (it only gets worse, and quite honestly I think the writer took it way too far). Oh well though. It's a shame you can't just accept they are 3 flawed individuals but I guess we should just leave it at that. You must admit that kazusa doesnt have a father and her mom care for her very little she doesnt have a normal loving family and that contribute alot to her 'socially retardness' And this come from me who doesnt have a father and I must admit that it is very hard for me to socialize ;) But what I'm trying to say is despite all the flaw of touma and haruki everything would have work out fine with both of them if there is no third person who knows that they are secretly in love and still pry her way in the middle I view this act as disrespectful and a modest girl should have not committed it.... Sry for my bad English |
na358999Dec 29, 2013 8:15 PM
Natsurito said: I don't get it why people kept Blaming the Guy? This is a good ending for a romance anime. I don't see this anime as a love triangle. Please anyone could you explain why this anime count as a love triangle? Because i only see the bond of Touma and the guy in the anime. Because they were making out furiously, and they were boyfriend/girlfriend...... True the flash blacks indicate Touma had more of a history with Haruki. Still doesn't excuse him for being a scumbag boyfriend and hiding the fact that he was unfaithful til the end. He pretty much crossed the line when he lied about not being able to make it to her birthday party. Then it snowballed from there. It's also pretty annoying that Touma expected Haruki to know that she loved him when she was so fucking tsundere. Shit Setsuna is annoying too for being apologetic all the time. I can say the same about Haruki too |
zzzeallyDec 29, 2013 9:15 PM
Natsurito said: I don't get it why people kept Blaming the Guy? He was still dating Setsuna when he kissed/had sex with Touma. Plus, he ditched her birthday to find Touma. He knew that Setsuna didn't have many friends and that they were the only two friends she's ever had, but he still ended up being selfish. |
| Jeez, so many people are pissed. I thought the show did a great job at showing that each character had their own faults, which to me makes them all the more human. We all do stupid things and have the capacity to hurt the ones we love, and the things our main cast did are not farfetched in the least. People cheat, hide feelings, act irrationally, and come between others for the sake of love (or jealousy) all the time. Why should these characters be any different? While I admit those faults were pretty major, I found the characters for the most part likable and I ended up feeling for each one of them. This is mainly because I believe each character was shown to genuinely care for one another despite all the mistakes they made... though others will argue that their actions suggest otherwise. It's obvious that none of the three hates one another, and it's obvious none of them are mean people. Especially Setsuna. The bit about her love for Haruki not being any less than Kazusa's, while predictable, really got to me. I actually shed more tears for her than the other two. As for the ending, while not happy, there was enough indication let viewers reasonably speculate that they might all be friends again down the road (and that Haruki gets his besuto garu). This is speculation and opinion, of course. Overall, the show had its missteps (what show doesn't?), but it was a great ride. I actually watched the whole series over 2 nights; it had me engaged enough to keep me watching late into the night until it was absolutely necessary for me to go to bed. Good romance, a majorly flawed but incredibly human main cast, decent music, and a fun anime for shipping and being contrary with those who disagree with you. If it helps, I give White Album 2 an 8 out of 10 on MAL's scale. |
-Trippwire-Dec 30, 2013 12:24 AM
| Well that's how it's supposed to be. Haruki is much better with Touma anyway.. Setsuna, although selfish herself, can't be blamed for chasing her love. mayukachan said: He was still dating Setsuna when he kissed/had sex with Touma. Plus, he ditched her birthday to find Touma. He knew that Setsuna didn't have many friends and that they were the only two friends she's ever had, but he still ended up being selfish. I thought he already explained everything to Setsuna on the train? he already made it clear that Touma is the one he truly loves.. It's still kind of a dick move to kiss in front of Setsuna but in that kind of situation, where they might not see each other again, it's understandable that emotion took over and they wanna kiss. Their love is kinda tragic after all.. Obviously the whole thing can be resolved if Setsuna just let Haruki goes and tell him to just date Touma already but of course it might not be so easy for her. Overall quite a nice anime although the ending is sort of a cliffhanger.. whatever happens in the 2nd season, I think the anime is heading towards Haruki x Touma ending in the end. 9/10 PS: People are being too hard on Touma, you could say she came from a broken home. No father, mother always working far away, a genius on her own level.. it's no wonder she's socially inept if everyone's avoiding her. As Sakurasou no Pet Kanojo made very clear, it's intimidating to be with someone whose genius far surpasses yours. |
MoeGodDec 30, 2013 12:50 AM
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| In a way,I don't blame some people here.They've gotten too used to the abundance of average "romance" animes we've been getting over the past few years where a "good" character has to be a one-dimensional stereotype.WA2's characters are complex and trying to understand them is waaaaaayyy better than getting on your high horse,pointing fingers left & right and saying how Haruki should've done this,Setsuna should've done that,etc.You guys have to remember that it's their 1st time experiencing this and they don't have any role models to give them advice on how to handle relationships.They're completely on their own which is,IMO,another very enjoyable aspect of this show.There's zero spoon-feeding here and neither Haruki,Kazusa nor Setsuna have the neccessary experience to deal with these things.They have to learn through trial & error. Thing is,it's not really hard to understand them either once you try.To me,insisting on putting the blame on either of them & bash them constantly takes away from the overall enjoyment of this great show.Don't try to look at WA2 through the same lanes as you'd look at your usual highschool romance,even some of the decent ones out there,where selfless characters are abundant.Try to see things from their perspective,not yours.The writer even gave us a helping hand with that in showing certain important events in flashbacks in the latter episodes instead of showing them in the exact same episode that they took place. |
ManlyTearDec 30, 2013 1:11 AM
MgMaster said: In a way,I don't blame some people here.They've gotten too used to the abundance of average "romance" animes we've been getting over the past few years where a "good" character has to be a one-dimensional stereotype.WA2's characters are complex and trying to understand them is waaaaaayyy better than getting on your high horse,pointing fingers left & right and saying how Haruki should've done this,Setsuna should've done that,etc.You guys have to remember that it's their 1st time experiencing this and they don't have any role models to give them advice on how to handle relationships.They're completely on their own which is,IMO,another very enjoyable aspect of this show.There's zero spoon-feeding here and neither Haruki,Kazusa nor Setsuna have the neccessary experience to deal with these things.They have to learn through trial & error. Thing is,it's not really hard to understand them either once you try.To me,insisting on putting the blame on either of them & bash them constantly takes away from the overall enjoyment of this great show.Don't try to look at WA2 with through the same lanes as you'd look at your usual highschool romance,even some of the decent one sout there,where selfless characters are abundant.Try to see things from their perspective,not yours.The writer even gave us a helping hand with that in showing certain important events in flashbacks in the latter episodes instead of showing them in the exact same episode that they took place. okay let's see it from their perspective Haruki: I think with my penis. Touma: wtf life is unfair, how did you not know I loved you. OH WAIT I was tsundere for my entire life. Setsuna: Shit you cheated on me Haruki. Not your fault though. I apologize. I'm a conniving whore. LET'S BE FRIENDS FOREVER lol wut How do people even find this realistic |
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jiraiya_sensei said: PS: People are being too hard on Touma. PS:You guys are too soft on her. |
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FishTaco said: Haruki: I think with my penis. Put yourself in his situation, you're dating a girl you don't really like and the girl you do like is throwing herself at you. See if you can bring yourself to pass the chance of sleeping with her. kaimax said: PS:You guys are too soft on her. It's always easy to point other people's weakness isn't it... until you experience it yourself. Chances are you'd do the same thing if you were her. But what do I know, I suppose some people think they'll be just fine and remain an extrovert even when people are avoiding them and their family isn't around to support them =p Damn Touma, you weak bitch.. she deserves to be burned and crucified for showing her weakness right? right?? It's soooo totally her fault that her mother is a workaholic who doesn't care about her, it's definitely her fault that people are too intimidated by her genius.. how can she be socially inept? that's so impossible!! |
MoeGodDec 30, 2013 2:05 AM
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kaimax said: jiraiya_sensei said: PS: People are being too hard on Touma. PS:You guys are too soft on her. Yeah people are too hard on Setsuna and Kazusa... Might as well award Haruki with BEST GIRL... |
jiraiya_sensei said: FishTaco said: Haruki: I think with my penis. Most guys think with their penis (don't act all high and mighty and say "except me"), when put into the situation for real (as unlikely for you as it is) the penis almost always wins... unless you're a monk (probably). Put yourself in his situation, you're dating a girl you don't really like and the girl you do like is throwing herself at you. See if you can bring yourself to pass the chance of sleeping with her. No i would probably break up with her before banging her best friend. Touma wasn't throwing herself at Haruki. Haruki pursued her and threw himself into the situation. On top of that he flaked out and lied to her on her birthday of all days. He didn't even bother making a mere appearance. Actually I've never nor would I ever want to date my ex's best friend. That is just too awkward for me. |
FishTacoDec 30, 2013 2:11 AM
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| thoughts: 4:36 ewwww, sperm stains??!? 8:30 can't blame setsuna for wanting to pursue her own happiness, despite knowing how haruki & kazusa felt about each other. I guess she already saw it coming & tried to enjoy her time with haruki before they broke up, which explains why setsuna isn't going "yandere" on haruki on the train. 15:41 setsuna...yandere!?!?!? 16:01 lol...did haruki x touma really have to kiss like that in front of setsuna? Super dramatic :o 18:36 looks like setsuna will make her move :ooo 20:17 setsuna sings "todokanai koi" much better than the original version ---------------------- All in all, I'm more than satisfied with how this series ended. It didn't finish off in a cliché style where the "hero" is always suppose to win and get the girl. Haruki ended up with nobody. |
-ZET- said: I like your opinion.. your explanation is more reasonable.. #thumbs.up for you zet.. ^_^ |
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