Spotlight Character: Light Yagami (Death Note) MAL Character Information Page: Light Yagami MAL Favorite Character: #3 (with 3969 favorites) For the next week I would like to have everyone familiar with Light discuss what they think makes him an exceptional character. What attributes make him stand out in the ocean of interesting characters that exist in the realms of anime and manga. Unlike the other two subjects I will not force this conversation to fall into any set structure. Characters that are nominated typically get here because they are adept at breaking the existing character molds and defying definition. Because of this freedom I encourage everyone to do their very best to stay on topic and keep any and all debate civil. Have fun and I look forward to seeing what everyone has to say about this character. |
BlackMagicFeb 7, 2009 10:00 AM
| I sincerely doubt anything I'd have to say would make a difference in the end... |
| And vice versa :) |
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| Huh? You mean ditto. Or is it detto, I don't know how brits put it. |
| You could use ditto, but I like vice versa. |
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| But vice versa means "other way around". Ditto means "same here". |
| Aye, and the reason I used it is because we have differing opinions on Light as a character :) |
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| I hate Light. A lot. I want nothing more than to kick him in the balls. And it's for that very reason that I respect him so much as a character. I think it's a mark of amazing character development and portrayal for me to get emotionally involved enough to hate him as much as I do. I think it's fascinating that Light starts off pretty much as the ideal person, not just in grades and superficial things, but morally. He has the sense of justice that many people are guilty of lacking, and it's painfully, painfully obvious from his brief stint with memory loss that he would have remained morally spotless if he had never encountered the Death Note. It's the ultimate example of "power corrupts" and I loved just how smoothly his foray into egotistical madness was portrayed and how deep that god complex penetrated his ideals. The changes in Light is one of the greatest examples of the multi-facetedness of people; Light was never a one-dimensional character. So yeah, as much as spent the whole series hating the bastard, I wholeheartedly believe that he deserves some kind of 10 rating. :3 |
| All that was said on comments during last week. Added the fact that I cosplayed Light and studied him in-depth in way to perfectly act his movements and personality. I know him better than my favourite characters and, thus, I can assure that he's just an empty shell, a motto for story development, a plot tool and, overall, nothing that distinguishes him from an average guy. One of the hardest characters I ever had to act out because of that, by the way. No for him. |
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| Hey Archaeon, you say it's good if a show polarizes opininons. Do you think that holds true for characters as well? |
| Can someone change the thread title to Resurrected Spotlight Plot Device? Damn. He gets a no from me. |
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| @ Dozer Not really. A show which polarizes opinion often does so because of the viewers inherent values - either they like it or they don't. Usually the viewer can justify their likes/dislikes, but not really quantify them. Characters on the other hand, are easier to deal with. A show is often viewed in a very subjective way, however a character can be taken apart to be examined in minute detail (which is kind of what I was talking about with Shaolin about Light - put him in different scenarios that you come up with and try to figure out how he would react. Just because they don't fit the plot of the series doesn't mean they're not a valid form of character analysis). One could argue that you can take a show apart, but this is far more difficult to do in an objective way, as our personal opinion of the show will keep getting in the way. Also, you'll notice I said "truly polarize". Many shows where you have disagreements with people aren't really conflicts about the show itself, but about personal opinion. Shows like NGE, DN, SHnY though, all polarize opinion at several levels, with both sides having relevant, factual, and above all, valid arguments for their case. Also, as we saw with my discussion with Shaolin, there's generally one main argument for a given character - it wouldn't be the same show. For me, at least, that's a pretty flimsy argument. |
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| But it isn't really all that different, analyzing a show and analyzing a character. Why would a character polarize differently than a show? Everything is about perception. As long as we percieve characters and the shows in which they appear with the same subjective view, there really shouldn't be a double standard. |
| You're absolutely right about the perceptional issue. How we both perceive things is completely different, and that's as it should be. My point about the difference between analyzing a show and analyzing a character though, is more because of the subjective nature of any analysis that we may choose to undertake. Here's an example. Say we both were discussing NGE. We would both automatically try and discuss the show in what we would hope to be objective terms (however this is hard to do as opinion will get in the way). This is because we're looking at the show in it's entirety, and because of that we we view the characters purely in terms of the show. However, when you decide to analyse a particular character, then it becomes a very subjective discussion. The reason is because we try to "humanise" whichever character we're discussing (conveniently forgetting that they are simply works of fiction), and we do this because that's how our minds work. Any character that we see or read about, we will automatically perceive in terms of who we know or what our experiences are in real life. We may try to justify or villify the character in terms of the story they were in, however this is simply an extension of our perceived notion on how we would have acted had we been that character. During my discussion with Shaolin about Light for example, you saw that I continually tried to show him as a character outside of the setting of DN, or in a slightly altered setting. It goes without saying that it wouldn't be the same show, but that wasn't the reason for me doing that. The reason was simply to highlight the fact that a character like Light is designed to be an ideal form - i.e. he's what many people desire to be like. This is the main reason why quite a lot of people claim that they can relate to him, and even I can relate to him in certain respects. This is purely because of his design as a character though, as he has been created to be "familiar" to the viewer, but only in terms of how the viewer wants themselves to be. Don't get me wrong. This isn't a bad thing at all, and relating to a character is completely justified in most cases. The bad part is that "ideal form", as once that is done, the character ceases to be able to develop. There is no growth beyond perfection after all, and the story in DN is such that any possibilities of developing him as a character were either removed or never added in the first place. There were a number of occasions where Light could have been developed in the show (without changing any part of the story), and almost none of them were actually used. That's why I said Light was merely a plot device (or furniture as I call them). He works extremely well in his setting, has mass appeal due to his being an ideal form, and presents some intruiging questions. Unfortunately he's also wooden and underdeveloped. This is why he only rates as mediocre for me. I won't say he's bad, but he could have been one of the greatest anime characters ever, and it's more disappointment on my part that they never thought to utilise his full potential (something which could have been done just by allowing him some decent development). |
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| You know what Archaeon? I don't know. Calling Light an ideal character is one thing, but I do think that if his character had changed, it would have actually detracted from the story. The great thing about Light is that, unlike what any other author would do with a character like him, he is shown deciding on his goal, and then, he never once strays from it. I personally loved watching him constantly aiming for his goal, and the fact that he never flinched one bit made it all the more better. I personally think that if he was shown as someone struggleing with his will to fulfill his goal, he would have been less entertaining. |
| That's one of the problems though Dozer. If his character was different then the story may have been anything from slightly to very different, but it's impossible to tell if that would have been better or worse. The big stumbling block is simply the fact that he's too perfect, kind of like those women who overhaul everything with plastic surgery. They look fantastic (when it works that is), but something about them just seems... wrong. I can't think of a better way of explaining it (a little help here?). Light fits the story perfectly, which is why I call him furniture. He fits so well because he's designed that way, much in the same way an interior designer will select furniture for a room so that everything is perfect. The room itself may have a certain personality, and may be a work of genius, but none of the pieces that go to make up that room (especially the big couch in front of the TV), would be classed as anything so grand. They're simply chosen because they work so well with the theme of the room. Everything about Light is perfect - his looks, his genius, his athleticism, his family, etc, etc, and the problem I have is that too much perfection just rings false (at least for me). Humans aren't perfect after all, and because of that we're especially sensitive to things that could be called "perfect". That sensitivity can lead to adoration or hatred, it doesn't matter which. The only thing that matters is the fact that you have feelings about him/her/it because it is perfect (at least in human terms). Light, as a character, will either appeal to one's aspirations, or will be loathed by one's experiences of the world (which is why older viewers tend to be more critical of him than younger ones - no surprise there). |
ArchaeonFeb 8, 2009 5:42 AM
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| Butting in on the more general rules of character appreciation I'd like to put a question mark next to the word 'humanise'. It is often mentioned that we should approach a character as if he/she were a human and judge how well-constructed the character is by its believability as a person. However, both with characters and with actual persons we judge on what is shown to us, simply because this is all we have. In some cases we are able to judge a person as a person, but in the absolute majority we only know of the person's role: most of what we know about the local baker is that he is a baker, and we can judge on the quality of his products and his demeanor when he sells. From this, most persons would build something of a set of assumptions on the type of person the baker is (generous or stingy, a perfectionist or not). This set is, however, dependent on him being a baker/seller of bread. Turning to fictional characters, some characters are obviously constructed to be recognised first and foremost as persons, with the whole shebang of feelings, thoughts, opportunities, strengths and weaknesses. This applies mostly to those kind of stories which are character-centric, generally being the ones that are made to elicit an emotional reaction (predominantly drama and comedy). In those cases the (re-)actions and thoughts of the character are the entire focus of the show, meaning that the viewer should be able to recognise and appreciate these actions and thoughts. Often we know more about such a character's state of mind than of more general issues, such as his profession, hobbies and struggle to pay his mortgage and many a time we seem to know such a character better than our neighbours a few doors down. . These characters can be viewed in isolation, plucked apart and categorised as some human archetype, and judged with regard to how well-crafted they are as a human being. As such, these characters can be dropped into quite a few distinct stories without them losing much of their appeal. This is far more difficult with plot-centred stories, though. Here, we generally see only those aspects of a character that tie into the plot. As it was unnecessary to know what the profession is of the character in a drama to understand his thoughts and feelings (like it generally is unnecessary to know what our friends are exactly doing these days to still appreciate them as our friends), it is unnecessary to know many of the thoughts and feelings of a character in an action series to understand his actions (like we don't need to know all the ins and outs of the baker to appreciate him as a baker). In those cases it is quite ridiculous to use the approach of isolating the character from the setting, as what we see of the character is far more intrinsically tied to the setting, to the detriment of possible time and space available for the more internal development of the character. To borrow from the comments, we can probably agree that Yang Wenli is a rather well-crafted character who also can be considered to be a decent man. Take him away from his setting and place him somewhere where politics and the military are of no account, and suddenly there is far less to him, as so much of his thoughts are interwoven with his setting. We can guess in his case that there is more to the man (and that he probably will be rather boring if he had his way), but we can only guess this from the way he acts when trying to worm his way out of assignments. In the same fashion we tend to see an ideal in many existing persons, be it movie stars or the very saints. And while we know there is probably something lurking behind the glamorous covers - the very reason for the existence of glossy reporters - we can to some extent safely consider those persons to represent an ideal until we are faced with some contrary evidence. Separating characters in plot-centred stories from their settings seems to me, thus, not the best way to appreciate the character. A more safer option, I would say, would be to try and fit another character in the designated character slot and see whether the series would be the same. I mention this because I feel that, in these cases, characters can be divided into plot-bearers and plot-shapers, and whether we can appreciate a character in and of itself is closely connected to this division. In the case of plot-bearers (which can likely safely be called plot devices) the story ties into the presence of the actual character and can continue because of the continuing existence of the character, but the character itself seems to be something of a right place, right time construct. The story would by and large unfold whether or not the specific character is present. Plot-shapers, on the other hand, are the actual catalysts of the plot, without whose meaningful actions the story would simply not take place. The character is still to a minute level entwined with the story, and what we see of him is probably only that which will have an impact on the story, but we are able to consider whether his motives have meaning in the setting and whether the actions taken do to some extend represent accurate character depiction. In the case of Light, I'd say that he is a plot-bearer. In the end, it wouldn't really have mattered all that much whether he was different or not. If some of the coincidences mentioned in the comments were lost (he would not be the son of a police chief, his intellect was somewhat lower, etc.) he would have had a harder time at it, but would still be able to use the notebook and go on a rampage. The most likely outcome of another character would be that the story would have ended at an earlier point in time, thus lessening the drama, but there is really nothing in Light's design or actions that make him indispensable to the story. It is this what makes that his flair for the dramatic can't be waived away: in a sense he would have been entitled to his insane writing skills had he be the only one who could have gotten away with what he does, but he isn't. |
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Archaeon said: Light fits the story perfectly, which is why I call him furniture. He fits so well because he's designed that way, much in the same way an interior designer will select furniture for a room so that everything is perfect. The room itself may have a certain personality, and may be a work of genius, but none of the pieces that go to make up that room (especially the big couch in front of the TV), would be classed as anything so grand. They're simply chosen because they work so well with the theme of the room. Any character that is considered great owns a lot to the setting in which that character is in. Saying that a character, when taken out of context, loses his/her charm, applies to any character. As for fitting with the story, there is a doujin on the internets in which Ryuk gives the Death Note to Yuno from Hidamari Sketch. She promptly refuses. If your characters don't fit with the story, your story won't work. Q.E.D. Archaeon said: Everything about Light is perfect - his looks, his genius, his athleticism, his family, etc, etc, and the problem I have is that too much perfection just rings false (at least for me). Humans aren't perfect after all, and because of that we're especially sensitive to things that could be called "perfect". That sensitivity can lead to adoration or hatred, it doesn't matter which. The only thing that matters is the fact that you have feelings about him/her/it because it is perfect (at least in human terms). I always saw Light as a very smart regular guy. Unless you consider gatting good grades and having a police detective in the family special circumstances. Which really aren't. Archaeon said: Light, as a character, will either appeal to one's aspirations, or will be loathed by one's experiences of the world (which is why older viewers tend to be more critical of him than younger ones - no surprise there). Alpha version: So, isn't that polarizing enough? Beta version: I could say that you are always so patronizing whenever you talk about this, but then I guess people would direct me to my review of TMoHS in which I talk about Haruhi in the same way, and then I guess I would have to explain the difference between goodwill and anarchy. And I'm in no mood for that... santetjan said: In the case of Light, I'd say that he is a plot-bearer. In the end, it wouldn't really have mattered all that much whether he was different or not. If some of the coincidences mentioned in the comments were lost (he would not be the son of a police chief, his intellect was somewhat lower, etc.) he would have had a harder time at it, but would still be able to use the notebook and go on a rampage. The most likely outcome of another character would be that the story would have ended at an earlier point in time, thus lessening the drama, but there is really nothing in Light's design or actions that make him indispensable to the story. That's what you think. His uniqueness as a character was the icing on the cake. santetjan said: It is this what makes that his flair for the dramatic can't be waived away: in a sense he would have been entitled to his insane writing skills had he be the only one who could have gotten away with what he does, but he isn't. I really can't imagine a character with on opposing personality doing what he did. |
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Dozer said: Any character that is considered great owns a lot to the setting in which that character is in. Saying that a character, when taken out of context, loses his/her charm, applies to any character. As for fitting with the story, there is a doujin on the internets in which Ryuk gives the Death Note to Yuno from Hidamari Sketch. She promptly refuses. If your characters don't fit with the story, your story won't work. Q.E.D. True enough. As Santetjan say though, as safer method is to define if they're plot bearers or plot shapers. Taking the character out of the context of the story is simply a form of character analysis, and you can use it to define what type of character they are. Simply come up with a basic scenario then, based on your knowledge of the character, try to imagine what they would do. If the actions of the character serve to create some activity within the story, then they're a plot shaper. If they simply act like a lump of wood, then they're a plot bearer. Trying to define them in terms of the story they were in is harder to do, as the story is geared towards them in the first place. Dozer said: I always saw Light as a very smart regular guy. Unless you consider gatting good grades and having a police detective in the family special circumstances. Which really aren't. Regular is the word that causes the problems, as for Light to be considered "regular" or "normal", there would have to be some changes to the story. Dozer said: Alpha version: So, isn't that polarizing enough? Beta version: I could say that you are always so patronizing whenever you talk about this, but then I guess people would direct me to my review of TMoHS in which I talk about Haruhi in the same way, and then I guess I would have to explain the difference between goodwill and anarchy. And I'm in no mood for that... LOL - you're right that it is polarizing, but characters are a whole other ball game to stories. As for SHnY, whilst I would vote yes for the show, I would definitely not vote for Haruhi herself, and for very similar reasons as to why I would vote no for Light. |
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| Effective, gregarious, ruthless character. Whatever silly arguments against his inclusion I've heard can also be applied to at least three-quarters of the present inductions, especially Balsa, Kenshin, and Guts. 8/10 and yes. |
Archaeon said: As for SHnY, whilst I would vote yes for the show, I would definitely not vote for Haruhi herself, and for very similar reasons as to why I would vote no for Light. *gasp*I, uh.. well, no way... you can't...*gasp over, done choking* Well that explains everything. |
Archaeon said: As for SHnY, whilst I would vote yes for the show, I would definitely not vote for Haruhi herself, and for very similar reasons as to why I would vote no for Light. Funny enough, while I've voted against the show, Haruhi herself might just be insane enough to make it in my book. ShaolinRibiero said: Whatever silly arguments against his inclusion I've heard can also be applied to at least three-quarters of the present inductions, especially Balsa, Kenshin, and Guts. Who says they should be included anyway? (Well, obviously, the majority of this club does.) Guts and Kenshin face the exact same issues and really aren't all that well-developed nor essential to the story. I'll be willing to spar with you regarding Balsa, though, especially since she has a series of novels to help her out. The real issue seems to be: Dozer said: I really can't imagine a character with on opposing personality doing what he did. You know, I'm starting to think you're right. While you're going a bit too far yourself by saying that the complete opposite character won't work - as of course he won't - and I'm talking about a more random sample of possible characters, the truth is I talked about Light as if his main purpose in the series is to be Kira, a role which can be played by many characters, even intelligently. However, the series actually isn't about the Death Note and Kira. It's about the battle of wits and ego's between L and Kira and only someone who is arrogant, ruthless and clever, able to think years ahead and willing to forgo earlier scruples because of the battle can fulfill that role. Perhaps you really can't but end up with someone like Light. By the way: Dozer said: That's what you think. True. That's exactly why I used 'I'd say'. |
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| 6/10. I didn't not like him, but he wasn't really...special in any way. He had definite flaws and pluses, however I don't see how he stands out as being a unique character or anything. There are plenty of other characters out there that deserve way more recognition than him. |
| 8/10 Am I the only one who found Light to be a sociopathic, arrogant child from the beginning? Perfect? This man had such a glaring flaw from the first episode. Hubris. And because of that I think Light is one of the greater tragic characters in anime. I was equal parts disgusted and riveted by all of his actions throughout the entire show. From his lack of respect for authority to downright womanizing. Light has one motive, and nothing else matters as long as he gets to that goal. As an actor, he would be a dream to play since he is so readily able to understand, and just lose oneself in his megalomania. To discredit him because he was executed well is ridiculous to me. I give him an eight because towards the end, a lot of his character was cheapened by the need for him to be taken down by Mello and Near |
noteDhero said: 8/10 Am I the only one who found Light to be a sociopathic, arrogant child from the beginning? Perfect? This man had such a glaring flaw from the first episode. Hubris. And because of that I think Light is one of the greater tragic characters in anime. I was equal parts disgusted and riveted by all of his actions throughout the entire show. From his lack of respect for authority to downright womanizing. Light has one motive, and nothing else matters as long as he gets to that goal. As an actor, he would be a dream to play since he is so readily able to understand, and just lose oneself in his megalomania. To discredit him because he was executed well is ridiculous to me. I give him an eight because towards the end, a lot of his character was cheapened by the need for him to be taken down by Mello and Near To piggyback on your point, I just love how utterly disinterested Light seems to be with sex and the attractive women around him throughout the series. It's like, nothing matters for him at all anymore, just his Death Note and bringing justice to the world. |
ShaolinRibiero said: noteDhero said: 8/10 Am I the only one who found Light to be a sociopathic, arrogant child from the beginning? Perfect? This man had such a glaring flaw from the first episode. Hubris. And because of that I think Light is one of the greater tragic characters in anime. I was equal parts disgusted and riveted by all of his actions throughout the entire show. From his lack of respect for authority to downright womanizing. Light has one motive, and nothing else matters as long as he gets to that goal. As an actor, he would be a dream to play since he is so readily able to understand, and just lose oneself in his megalomania. To discredit him because he was executed well is ridiculous to me. I give him an eight because towards the end, a lot of his character was cheapened by the need for him to be taken down by Mello and Near To piggyback on your point, I just love how utterly disinterested Light seems to be with sex and the attractive women around him throughout the series. It's like, nothing matters for him at all anymore, just his Death Note and bringing justice to the world. Just one of the many things that make him fun to watch. |
noteDhero said: 8/10 Am I the only one who found Light to be a sociopathic, arrogant child from the beginning? Perfect? This man had such a glaring flaw from the first episode. Hubris. And because of that I think Light is one of the greater tragic characters in anime. I was equal parts disgusted and riveted by all of his actions throughout the entire show. From his lack of respect for authority to downright womanizing. Light has one motive, and nothing else matters as long as he gets to that goal. As an actor, he would be a dream to play since he is so readily able to understand, and just lose oneself in his megalomania. To discredit him because he was executed well is ridiculous to me. I give him an eight because towards the end, a lot of his character was cheapened by the need for him to be taken down by Mello and Near Definitely agree, and you just convinced me to vote yes. |
| Just one quick note: noteDhero said: I give him an eight because towards the end, a lot of his character was cheapened by the need for him to be taken down by Mello and Near Considering how you think the character is great because of his hubris, then it is actually only at the end that it appears in its true sense, as only then does his arrogance win over from his caution. Simply being goal-oriented to the point of obsession (as, well, any knight going out to slay the dragon) does not make one hubristic. |
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| I know. What I'm saying is that they rushed things a lot towards the end, and I also had a lot of problems with the way he unraveled in the end. He should have died, and he should have unraveled (otherwise it's not a tragedy); I'm merely stating my disapproval with how it all was executed. It ended up seeming necessary rather than organic. |
kiriska said: I hate Light. A lot. I want nothing more than to kick him in the balls. And it's for that very reason that I respect him so much as a character. I think it's a mark of amazing character development and portrayal for me to get emotionally involved enough to hate him as much as I do. I think it's fascinating that Light starts off pretty much as the ideal person, not just in grades and superficial things, but morally. He has the sense of justice that many people are guilty of lacking, and it's painfully, painfully obvious from his brief stint with memory loss that he would have remained morally spotless if he had never encountered the Death Note. It's the ultimate example of "power corrupts" and I loved just how smoothly his foray into egotistical madness was portrayed and how deep that god complex penetrated his ideals. The changes in Light is one of the greatest examples of the multi-facetedness of people; Light was never a one-dimensional character. So yeah, as much as spent the whole series hating the bastard, I wholeheartedly believe that he deserves some kind of 10 rating. :3 I totally agree. I hate him, but he's an exceptional chara. |
madeener said: Bitch-killer. Yes. That sums up Light's character pretty much. |
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ShaolinRibiero said: To piggyback on your point, I just love how utterly disinterested Light seems to be with sex and the attractive women around him throughout the series. It's like, nothing matters for him at all anymore, just his Death Note and bringing justice to the world. Almost made him seem inhuman at that point. its one thing to push human desires/temptations/feelings aside for the greater good (or evil), but he didn't even seem to struggle with it at all. the one scene were Misa comes into the room with an extremely revealing babydoll to the surprise/delight? of every man in there except for Light was hilarious. if i remember correctly, even his father had the "God damn!" look on his face....its shame really.....explains why he was so tense and high strung all the time...should have given in, at least once.... |
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naikou said: noteDhero said: 8/10 Am I the only one who found Light to be a sociopathic, arrogant child from the beginning? Perfect? This man had such a glaring flaw from the first episode. Hubris. And because of that I think Light is one of the greater tragic characters in anime. I was equal parts disgusted and riveted by all of his actions throughout the entire show. From his lack of respect for authority to downright womanizing. Light has one motive, and nothing else matters as long as he gets to that goal. As an actor, he would be a dream to play since he is so readily able to understand, and just lose oneself in his megalomania. To discredit him because he was executed well is ridiculous to me. I give him an eight because towards the end, a lot of his character was cheapened by the need for him to be taken down by Mello and Near Definitely agree, and you just convinced me to vote yes. Good description! The reason why he's a YES!!! Reason why he's such a great character: 1. His ego is as big as his capabilities 2. His sense of morality is twisted but can't really said to be wrong 3.The way he have his fun and live his life while killing 4. The way he he was designed to be a very untrue-to-life character yet he still seems so human :) |
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ghostxlix said: ShaolinRibiero said: To piggyback on your point, I just love how utterly disinterested Light seems to be with sex and the attractive women around him throughout the series. It's like, nothing matters for him at all anymore, just his Death Note and bringing justice to the world. Almost made him seem inhuman at that point. its one thing to push human desires/temptations/feelings aside for the greater good (or evil), but he didn't even seem to struggle with it at all. the one scene were Misa comes into the room with an extremely revealing babydoll to the surprise/delight? of every man in there except for Light was hilarious. if i remember correctly, even his father had the "God damn!" look on his face....its shame really.....explains why he was so tense and high strung all the time...should have given in, at least once.... You are forgetting that it was after the time jump. By that time, Light was probably having sex with Misa at least three times a week (like most ordinary couples) for four years, so it's perfectly understandable that he was more interested in his work than Misa at that moment. |
naikou said: noteDhero said: 8/10 Am I the only one who found Light to be a sociopathic, arrogant child from the beginning? Perfect? This man had such a glaring flaw from the first episode. Hubris. And because of that I think Light is one of the greater tragic characters in anime. I was equal parts disgusted and riveted by all of his actions throughout the entire show. From his lack of respect for authority to downright womanizing. Light has one motive, and nothing else matters as long as he gets to that goal. As an actor, he would be a dream to play since he is so readily able to understand, and just lose oneself in his megalomania. To discredit him because he was executed well is ridiculous to me. I give him an eight because towards the end, a lot of his character was cheapened by the need for him to be taken down by Mello and Near Definitely agree, and you just convinced me to vote yes. It's precisely as actor that he's such a pain to play. So simple and straightforward that nothing else is left. He was a funnier character at the LA (wimpy kid that got his megalomania from being supposedly bullied by evilkin), but still very incapable. I also agree, but for me that's the reason he does not deserve my vote. =p |
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