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| A couple of plot holes I noticed in this episode: - When Ibara threw the grenade, why didn't the two crazy sisters not notice? - If scientists copied DNA cells from a serial killer, why would the clones also be crazy? It's not possible to be born with a corrupted personality. There must have been some unique factors that had played with the original serial killer's childhood, thus causing her to be crazy - How does one use a human shield but barely get any scratch on themselves? Anyway, this show is still average at best. I think it could really improve only if the main characters stopped being goody-two-shoes. I'd like to see some anti-heros (like Death Note's Light) in this show instead of Ibara's "humans made us to help the world" attitude. It pisses me off, because the crazy sisters are right that the scientists were just testing on them, instead of thinking about helping the world. |
| Damn the Ozu sisters are pretty crazy, but I like them :D. Ibara is the only person I see in action while the other two, Aoi and Taeko, still waiting for them to help her. So one can use electricity while the other has super human strength, that is something new for a coppelion. So Coppelions were not born with their mothers while they are just experiments for it... Well pretty much somes up after the the Ozu sisters were defeated and new information about Coppelions. TBH the sound effects like gun shots, rocket launchers, and punches felt a bit cartoonish, and some scenes and the story felt a bit off for some reason though. |
| oh, the older of the ozu sisters was like biribiri, hahaha what a coincidence, after watching A certain magical index and this. So they're on a coup against the vice principal. oh well, plot twist, plot twists everywhere... And I'm pissed, almost every time I download and watch this anime, sometimes the subs were late and in this episode the video was late. wtf... |
| AOI used "Useless bitch" IT'S SUPER INEFFECTIVE |
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| Such a tragic waste of graphics, Such aweful characters, Such a terrible anime, 1/10 |
--__-- said: Such a tragic waste of graphics, Such aweful characters, Such a terrible anime, 1/10 +1 |
| I was waiting for this fight , best episode for me hands down. |
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| Good episodes with good fighting scenes |
| Is it okay to hope the Ozu sisters win and kill everyone? Cause I'm just about sick of the main casts personalities altogether. Aoi the useless, whatsherface the piece of furniture, and Ibara the "omg there is no way in hell anyone can be this sickeningly optimistic" protagonist who's ideals and sudden emotional outbursts are just so damn completely unbelievable. Seriously, manga or anime, that character curdles my stomach every damn time she speaks... ugh. Sorry, but, I'm with the Ozu sisters here. ;P |
| Few maxims have done as much harm as, "Children should be seen and not heard." |
| The history is coming better. Hope this stays on that way :) |
| Which scientist gave the Coppelion with the genes from a series killer superhuman strength, seriously they need to be fired or something. Great episode!!! |
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VioLink said: http://i.imgur.com/rMv60oH.png Lucky bastard Kanon and Shion are so cool! that was one of those rare moments where you regret wearing a mask. anyway, awesome episode. We finally saw a good example of Ibara's close combat ability, and the battle was interesting. |
My DeviantArt and Pixiv and still waiting patiently for a 3rd season of Spice & Wolf :'| |
Aymaan143 said: "All living things die" When I think about it, this is probably the biggest inconsistency with Ibara's mindset in the series. She's spent the past 8 episodes preaching on about the value of life, even going to the point where she cries if her enemies are going to die and does everything she can to save everyone. And yet a few episodes ago, she killed a few first division soldiers with a vehicle explosion and went "WOO HOO" about it, and now she's demeaning the value of life with this whole "everything dies someday, so what does it matter?" attitude. |
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mayukachan said: A couple of plot holes I noticed in this episode: - When Ibara threw the grenade, why didn't the two crazy sisters not notice? The grenade was out of her reach and was a new type. Haruto suggested the Ozus didn't know this type or they merely didn't find it threatening to themselves (the least). - If scientists copied DNA cells from a serial killer, why would the clones also be crazy? It's not possible to be born with a corrupted personality. There must have been some unique factors that had played with the original serial killer's childhood, thus causing her to be crazy True, but the clone cells were taken when the mom was a grown-up (first) and if the breeding went through various stages on "in-breeding", in end, what expression would become dominant or recessive except for the Coppelion cells and the enhanced cells, was left to destiny, which turns what you see (is what I think they meant). - How does one use a human shield but barely get any scratch on themselves? W/O "any" scratch is a bit off, but they regenerate, which also adds to the drama behind the clone itself, the expense at which the Coppelion cells probably work, and the small life-span the scientists have achieved even in 2036. |
| Gonna side with some people on MCs getting annoying here. How do they still believe they were designed to rescue people when they were clearly designed to be human weapons. The older Ozu sister is right there, with her saying how could they mess with her body. |
| This is the only episode that I got amazed to Naruse. :'D I like the way she punched and kicked those sisters.. HAHA. The Ozu sisters were really creepy O___O |
zellami said: mayukachan said: A couple of plot holes I noticed in this episode: - When Ibara threw the grenade, why didn't the two crazy sisters not notice? The grenade was out of her reach and was a new type. Haruto suggested the Ozus didn't know this type or they merely didn't find it threatening to themselves (the least). - If scientists copied DNA cells from a serial killer, why would the clones also be crazy? It's not possible to be born with a corrupted personality. There must have been some unique factors that had played with the original serial killer's childhood, thus causing her to be crazy True, but the clone cells were taken when the mom was a grown-up (first) and if the breeding went through various stages on "in-breeding", in end, what expression would become dominant or recessive except for the Coppelion cells and the enhanced cells, was left to destiny, which turns what you see (is what I think they meant). - How does one use a human shield but barely get any scratch on themselves? W/O "any" scratch is a bit off, but they regenerate, which also adds to the drama behind the clone itself, the expense at which the Coppelion cells probably work, and the small life-span the scientists have achieved even in 2036. 1. I feel like that's just a poor excuse for it. Anyone should be alarmed if an unknown object is released. 2. Is there actual scientific evidence that cloning cells from a develop human would cause the new clones to inherit attributes that were received after development? Or is it just assumed in this series? 3. Yet her sister did not regenerate as fast. How does a human shield work in this case, since the explosive was thrown in the middle of them? |
| BECAUSE THAT'S HOW DNA WORKS. If you clone someone from the same person twice, they will look totally different but naturally the serial killer thing is hereditary for both. Also pls just die in a hole Aoi. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| geeez! I just love the animation! And Haruto! I love him too :3 |
| We're all mad here |
| This show really picked things ups lately. The start was sorta slow but it wasn't really that bad either. Though this episode was great, really really enjoyable. I wasn't really paying much attention to the animation though I think it was pretty good to. Hopefully things just get better and better :D |
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| Ah, psychotic Biribiri? I really wonder what the school was thinking when the decided to train high school kids to fend for themselves and use weapons and then use them without any kind of personality or mental stability assessment. |
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| That wasn't bad, nice fight scenes. |
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| nice episode.. damn the girls really crazy.. especially the brown one :3 really awesome when she using her lighting fire :3 XD and aoi........... |
AiCon said: You'd still assume that the SDF would've done some psychological testing on those sisters throughout their training -- especially knowing that the woman they were cloned from was a serial killer. This is just one of many things that didn't make any sense in this episode:
I've pretty much given up all hope that this show will follow logic and reality. It's always funny how the "Fans" decide whether a Anime tries to be serious or not. Edit: It's also quite funny that most of you guys think the sisters wont come back :D |
TockNov 23, 2013 11:08 PM
The direct answer is yes, because, you see, the Ozu sisters are "the clones" of Kuon. They literally copy her genetic configuration at the time, after she has shown a violent and sociopathic behavior. As for real life, ... it would be more true to say that there are more "definite" answers in either direction where they shouldn't be - experiments revealed to be fabricated, proved to be non-replicated, results overgeneralized, results misquoted and misused for whatever "dirty" reasons. For example, reproductive cloning was proven to be possible in animals and mammals, yet far from being efficient. Human cloning is not proven to be possible (at least to my knowledge), yet there is a stupid debate is it humane. It's proven that certain environmental factors could "wake up" "dormant" gene expression further in the ontogenesis, and cause different types of cancer and tumors and they will remain active with a higher probability of expression in the first off-spring (generation). It's proven that prolonged cocaine intakes lead to changes in the pace of peptide production, which by the second off-spring could account for behaviors like being prone to aggression or enhanced sensation-seeking. But the subjects are lab mice (and definitely not cloned). See? If there is a definite answer to your question, I, the least, cannot give it. Just keep in mind that many people readily would. When it comes to "personality traits", it's possible certain gene expressions to be influenced on environmental or epigenetic levels, but most likely, the subjects won't be humans and the answers won't be definite :) Think of them as fixed "predispositions", if that helps. |
| Evil Miki gets knocked out with one hit? I call bullshit. This anime will burn without Evil Miki there. Nothing in this anime seems to have any direction. I hate these sorts of deus ex machina solutions to problems. Get hit by a tank shot? np just lemme pull out that ONE shrapnel that you got hit with. Get electrocuted twice? No problem just let me hop back, cover a large distance in a moment, and knock you out with one punch. Honestly we need to graduate from SAO-grade plot continuity. |
| I feel like The Robot has more character development than the three main girls. Btw, the only thing I liked in this episode was Naruse in bloomers. |
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Akanezora said: Btw, the only thing I liked in this episode was Naruse in bloomers. The girls should wear bloomers as their official uniform from the start. |
My DeviantArt and Pixiv and still waiting patiently for a 3rd season of Spice & Wolf :'| |
| The Ozu sisters made this Anime alot more interesting. |
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| Well Ozu sisters would be better main characters, that being said this was one of the better episodes. Really feel like dropping this, but there's only 5 more to go. |
Choroshi said: Akanezora said: Btw, the only thing I liked in this episode was Naruse in bloomers. The girls should wear bloomers as their official uniform from the start. I agree brother. |
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| Is it strange of me to think that the two twins are the most interesting thing that have happened in this show? |
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| I am just waiting to see how this anime ends. I gave up on the logic in this show just after episode 6. I didn't care about anything with this anime. |
| haha why did you block the roads? I hated you, so I joined the dark side ^ pretty much the how I interpreted it. Those sisters just made this series go from alright to pretty bad lol. That super-human strength is cool in Yozakura Quartet, but this is just weird. .like what am I watching, this has nothing to do with a Tokyo after a meltdown. |
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| People expected the series would turn a good corner with the appearance of the crazy "cleaning unit" sisters but somehow it did not feel right to me. The direction change seems abrupt and the characters do not have the same charisma as I expected. Horie Yui voicing the elder sister even sounded like "black Tsubasa" in Monogatari while acting like Railgun in a battle scene came straight from Index/Railgun.... |
symbvNov 26, 2013 1:02 AM
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Ok , i'm finally done with this anime. dropped. this was not what i was expecting .. at all. kept watching and watching but ... |
| Pathetic. You find out that you were made to die sudden deaths, used to be thrown away and your reaction is just to shrug and support them anyway. I knew these girls were pathetic but didn't know to what extent. I can't take this any longer, dropped. |
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parfaited said: The forehead sisters got taken out quickly. Guys the wind is coming you guys. Make sure you walk like a badass into that wind. basically this lmao what the fuck are their foreheads?? that end scene walking into the wind tho had me laughin |
| a girl that shoot electric, one punch to the face to end the fight, this reminds me of a certain anime :) but yeah, if found out can die suddenly anytime, anybody would go crazy |
| Terrible execution of an interesting setting is how I'd describe this series. |
| O.o this anime is really getting better. With that Coppelion sisters and the creepy final of the episode. O.o I really want to see the rest of the anime, I want to know how it ends! |
Choroshi said: VioLink said: http://i.imgur.com/rMv60oH.png Lucky bastard Kanon and Shion are so cool! that was one of those rare moments where you regret wearing a mask. Radiation is such a bitch, lol. zellami said: - If scientists copied DNA cells from a serial killer, why would the clones also be crazy? It's not possible to be born with a corrupted personality. There must have been some unique factors that had played with the original serial killer's childhood, thus causing her to be crazy True, but the clone cells were taken when the mom was a grown-up (first) and if the breeding went through various stages on "in-breeding", in end, what expression would become dominant or recessive except for the Coppelion cells and the enhanced cells, was left to destiny, which turns what you see (is what I think they meant). Actually you may both be very wrong. There is no proof whatsoever that all personality characteristics are based only on our environment. Quite the opposite really. There are many cases where there is a suspicion that some type of behavior is related to basic DNA. It seems that very possibly our reactions and personalities are a mixed of inborn characteristics and nurturing. Also her age when they clone her is irrelevant cause a clone basically is a copy of ones DNA. The DNA is always the same during a humans life except if a mutation occurs something that is an extreme unusual phenomenon. The DNA doesn't include her memories or anything like that so her age is completely irrelevant. MrAwesome2011 said: The Ozu sisters made this Anime alot more interesting. And even more cheap and ridiculous at the same time. Is like the creator tried to have a semi serious tone and he was failing bad with all the incomprehensible bullshit he puled and people weren't buying it so he then thought: "What the hell, then i will just bring super powers etc and turn it into a Railgun type anime, that one seems to be successful and this teenagers will go all mushy about crazy super powered twin girls, they eat that shit up." BTW Sorry couldn't resist. http://postimg.org/image/nt44vjo5r/ http://postimg.org/image/kas4z5n9r/ |
MonadDec 25, 2013 9:45 PM
| Oooh wow, ozu sisters ftw |
| I cannot see the point in Aoi's character...all she does is cry, act like a spoiled brat, cry some other, whine about how she wants to go home and then she up and coops herself in a room. Oh and she gets captured a hell lot. Maybe she's meant as comic relief but it does not work too well. I thought the Coppelion were trained to deal with issues but clearly her training got her nowhere. I hope she'll drop dead as apparently Coppelion are prone to doing just to end my misery in watching her. |
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| I guess the DNA thing explains Aoi's personality. Doesn't make her any less annoying though. |
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