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Nov 11, 2013 11:45 PM

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I'd like to think of this episode as fan service. I was laughing all throughout.
Nov 12, 2013 1:13 AM

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I liked the episode. Just that the singing/dacing was a bit dragged out imo, which got me bored at the end.
Nov 12, 2013 1:22 AM
Nov 12, 2013 1:24 AM

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Takei_Hisa said:
Red_Keys said:
This episode was borderline insulting.

How abysmally atrocious.


Insulting in what way..?
I could go on a giant escapade of a rant about this.. but to keep it short and simple, because it assumed that me, the viewer, cares more about idols and fanservice than the actual characters themselves and their relationships.

I thought it was extremely condescending.
Nov 12, 2013 1:46 AM

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Red_Keys said:
because it assumed that me, the viewer, cares more about idols and fanservice than the actual characters themselves and their relationships.

I thought it was extremely condescending.

I don't think so. The episode was a filler or as the director or whoever tweeted it ''breather''. I can understand you saying it's insulting or w/e if it was actually canon or part of the integral story line or characters but it's not. It was just a mindless fun episode that is filled with fan-service to Otakus, that all it was. Would it still be insulting if this filler had zero fan-service and also had zero character/story progression like this episode?! No.

scytheavatar said:
http://i.imgur.com/Yx5XGkL.jpg

I think those were the only moments I found funny. Hilarious fake drama lol.
Nov 12, 2013 2:25 AM

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tsudecimo said:
Red_Keys said:
because it assumed that me, the viewer, cares more about idols and fanservice than the actual characters themselves and their relationships.

I thought it was extremely condescending.

I don't think so. The episode was a filler or as the director or whoever tweeted it ''breather''. I can understand you saying it's insulting or w/e if it was actually canon or part of the integral story line or characters but it's not. It was just a mindless fun episode that is filled with fan-service to Otakus, that all it was. Would it still be insulting if this filler had zero fan-service and also had zero character/story progression like this episode?! No.
Except they did try to include character development, and more importantly relationship development, throughout the episode. But those scenes were shown in still frames in the background as a montage. They basically took a week of group-building and said "here's a few pictures of it, accept it", and then paraded the whole idol skit thing in our faces as if that's what we really care about.

It maybe wasn't central to the main plotline, I can agree with that, but it was central to the characters and their relations to each other.
Nov 12, 2013 6:40 AM

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Greatest Epic Fail Ever! 10/10
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I am hope and despair needed by all and to none.
I am CuresDestiny.
Fear me or Not it is all the same to me.
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Nov 12, 2013 10:49 AM

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Man all these excuses now....again it's going to be amusing when literally half these posters disappear over the course of next weeks episode thread cause they're only hear to take part in the memetic rally. Unless of course it's another dumb aimless fanservice episode.

This is reminding me of old school Kyoani fanboyism though. Like the people actually trying to criticize it can't get one post in without somebody replying with a half baked excuse/reason as to why the episode was apparently great, not flawed in any conceivable fashion and everyone should apparently think so too.

Red_Keys said:
tsudecimo said:
Red_Keys said:
because it assumed that me, the viewer, cares more about idols and fanservice than the actual characters themselves and their relationships.

I thought it was extremely condescending.

I don't think so. The episode was a filler or as the director or whoever tweeted it ''breather''. I can understand you saying it's insulting or w/e if it was actually canon or part of the integral story line or characters but it's not. It was just a mindless fun episode that is filled with fan-service to Otakus, that all it was. Would it still be insulting if this filler had zero fan-service and also had zero character/story progression like this episode?! No.
Except they did try to include character development, and more importantly relationship development, throughout the episode. But those scenes were shown in still frames in the background as a montage. They basically took a week of group-building and said "here's a few pictures of it, accept it", and then paraded the whole idol skit thing in our faces as if that's what we really care about.

It maybe wasn't central to the main plotline, I can agree with that, but it was central to the characters and their relations to each other.


Well think about it, what has been the general tone of this thread? Unconditional acceptance is one description that comes to mind for me so the people writing this episode certainly read their core audience right on this one I suppose. Also that's actually pretty typical of the Kyoto Animation series that I've followed. They clearly love pushing things that ought to matter to the background and ignoring them entirely while forcing bad comedy and they're obvious obsession with dance sequences on us. Things like the cast bonding in a way that's meaningful and develops them beyond the fetishes they like to talk about and the odd expositional dialogue would cut into the time they have for the dance sequence and shower scenes after all, which is clearly what's most important to the production staff of this show.

I think the reason it feels condescending is you and I are clearly outside of the particular group this episode is targeting so we can sort of see the cynicism and blatant pandering behind it. For those that are part of the core group they clearly don't care or see any problem whatsoever because they got the very simplistic things they came for. Honestly Kyoani should just abandon all pretenses from now on like they did with Free, it just seems to work better for them in a purely business oriented sense and it works for their core fans too cause there's nothing they like more than to cheer on their successes like there's no tomorrow and post their meme pics and such..
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Nov 12, 2013 11:18 AM
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by any chance was this a filler episodes. sure felt like one except that more of mitsuki's character was shown
Nov 12, 2013 4:28 PM

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Fun episode, I find myself enjoying this series a bit more each episode. The idol scene at the end was great, although I do wish they'd get back to plot. Cracked up with Mitsuki at the end frantically attempting to get soap out, I had to do that for like 10 minutes this morning with my shampoo.
Nov 14, 2013 9:37 AM

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filler episode, but was still way better than the rest of the anime
Nov 14, 2013 2:47 PM

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I love the voice actresses so much. I think Ai's voice is the best! Her normal and her singing voice is lovely ugh This show is too cute.
Nov 15, 2013 3:47 AM

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Red_Keys said:
tsudecimo said:
Red_Keys said:
because it assumed that me, the viewer, cares more about idols and fanservice than the actual characters themselves and their relationships.

I thought it was extremely condescending.

I don't think so. The episode was a filler or as the director or whoever tweeted it ''breather''. I can understand you saying it's insulting or w/e if it was actually canon or part of the integral story line or characters but it's not. It was just a mindless fun episode that is filled with fan-service to Otakus, that all it was. Would it still be insulting if this filler had zero fan-service and also had zero character/story progression like this episode?! No.
Except they did try to include character development, and more importantly relationship development, throughout the episode. But those scenes were shown in still frames in the background as a montage. They basically took a week of group-building and said "here's a few pictures of it, accept it", and then paraded the whole idol skit thing in our faces as if that's what we really care about.

It maybe wasn't central to the main plotline, I can agree with that, but it was central to the characters and their relations to each other.

I don't think so. The entire episode was one twenty minute joke (as in, the good funny kind of joke). That training montage was like a parody of the show itself, especially when followed up by the hilarious dance and the ending which basically sums up the episode. It had elements of fanservice but the main focus the entire time was comedy.
Nov 15, 2013 9:18 AM

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*Died of cuteness upon Ai's singing beginning* *Replays it ten times over*

... 0_0 I don't know HOW this show picked up an idol episode, but... Eh. XD
"Aiming for the mark takes precision, balance, and patience."

....Screw that, let's shoot the damn thing!
Nov 15, 2013 10:20 AM
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love that song ^^, didnt expect such a quality song ..sounded really good
Nov 15, 2013 1:45 PM

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Expecting some lame song but....but... it turn out to be such a great song. Can't wait for the CD release
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Nov 16, 2013 3:40 AM

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4/5

Another great performance of KyoAni that brings into play the latest episode filler! LOL
I know that to have something more in terms of plot you have to wait for a new season! ROTFL
Nevertheless it was fun storytelling, while noting a propensity on the part of KyoAni have saved on the quality of the drawings and animations. This is a serious incident which results in giving a vote of only 4/5!
Hiroomi and Ai best this time, but little compared to the other characters! ^ ^ "
Nov 16, 2013 4:13 AM

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Bullshit filler. This series has little chance of redeeming itself with this episode now in its list.

1/5.

If the next episode doesn't pick up the actual fucking story or character development, I'm dropping it.
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Nov 16, 2013 3:07 PM
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I bet if they had sung the ending of Tamako Market, they had defeated. But the playback was amazing, and Ai is so MOE.
Nov 16, 2013 4:39 PM

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As a person who's top 5 favorite anime consists of Love Live, I cannot tell you how happy I was at the idol part.
Nov 17, 2013 1:58 PM

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Love that ending song, :D
Well... it was nice episode anyway
Nov 17, 2013 5:21 PM
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Is this supposed to be a reference to KR Gaim? Lol.
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The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Nov 17, 2013 8:01 PM

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Wtf... they must've gotten bored of the plot.
Oh I just took a look at the series composition and saw Love Live! I see now.
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Nov 20, 2013 1:08 AM

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00:27 stop dancing, creature

03:38 so, she's a bonsai otaku =_=

05:47 teh urine youmu

Fanservice ep. 6/10.
Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances.
He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter.
Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga.
Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month.
Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel.
The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck.
Nov 20, 2013 8:55 PM

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LOL. Well, although this was obviously filler, I still enjoyed it.

Well, some plot would be nice, but meh. After seeing Paul's sig a long time ago and then actually watching it, my expectations for this show have kinda dropped.


I think the problem was that they marketed this show wrong. I saw trailers, and posters of this anime, and came into it thinking it was going to be all magic mysterious and a action packed dark fantasy.
But ever since the start of the show I have yet to have the feel of continuation of this series. Granted, there are some good scenes with action and magic, mystery. IT'S NOT A BAD SHOW, But I expected a more deep rooted story, with plenty of character development for something of this genre.
What I feel like I got, was a "Slice of life of a spirit hunter" type anime. If that make sense. As for this episode, I get it, fan service and filler, which is fine. But totally unexpected, Felt like kyoani was toying with me someway.
Still, we have about 6 episodes left, Things still may pick up.
Nov 22, 2013 10:49 AM

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BEST EPISODE SO FAR!!!! I LOVE IT!!! >///<




Nov 23, 2013 12:43 AM

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They became pro´s in dancing and singing and they forget to kill it?? lool This episode was a comedy.
Nov 23, 2013 9:42 AM

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WHERE ARE THE GIFS
Nov 26, 2013 11:23 PM

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Best part? Dancing and singing; worst part? Everything else.
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Bullshit filler. This series has little chance of redeeming itself with this episode now in its list.

1/5.

If the next episode doesn't pick up the actual fucking story or character development, I'm dropping it.

I am dropping this now.

egnaro315 said:
Wtf... they must've gotten bored of the plot.

Or they're resorting back to their retarded moe-fill.

KyoAni, you've disappointed me. Cya KnK.
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Nov 27, 2013 12:30 PM

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I really like the music in this show. and also the art is amazing. much like my love hyouka
Dec 1, 2013 8:07 AM

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Cute episode! Although I enjoyed it, I hope the anime takes a more serious turn. Hiromi is by far my fav. character right now.
Dec 1, 2013 7:14 PM

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This ep was great. So much lulz
Dec 5, 2013 6:24 AM

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The final song was really good, but is too bad that those guys didn't defeat that monster.
Dec 5, 2013 4:23 PM

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i fucking loved this ep.!!!
Dec 7, 2013 5:35 PM
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STARS ARE BORN!
I was laughing the whole episode!
Best episode for me!
I love dancing and singing scene. :3
Dec 9, 2013 5:49 PM

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I died at Mirai's little breakdown in the shower room. Poor Mitsuki.
Dec 15, 2013 2:18 PM

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May be the funniest episode of it's season, but I haven't seen the other ones yet. ^^
Dec 15, 2013 4:08 PM

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HILARIOUS EPISODE. Oh my god that was great.
Dec 17, 2013 6:42 AM

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Hahahaahaha wtf episode. That really surprised the heck out of me. Especially the guys dancing too, couldn't stop laughing the entire time.
Dec 22, 2013 12:56 PM

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Great episode also some once more cute picture of Mirai Maid (^^) . We had quite the speech about how to look great in glasses i guess ?! That dreamshade sure is special...that idol performance was amazing and Ai-chan nailed it with an incredible finale but yet they haven't beated that dreamshade XD.
Dec 27, 2013 1:52 AM

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I enjoyed Hiromi shower scene <3
Would've already drop this now if it wasn't for Hiromi and his sister
Dec 28, 2013 11:45 AM

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rly liked ai's singing ^-^

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I enjoyed Hiromi shower scene <3
Would've already drop this now if it wasn't for Hiromi


^ this
Dec 31, 2013 1:16 PM
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This series has had several bad episodes in a row and I am starting to lose interest. The tipping point was probably episode five were our female lead was given the offer to do nude modeling while being shown nude photos of a girl that look underage. From that point onward our two male leads dialogue almost entirely consisted of fetish conversations and jokes with girls insulting them or in some cases using the fetish to their advantage. Although not as bad the girls dialogue now is becoming simpler and simpler the phrase " We are always lone" tossed around like a hot potato in one particular episode. When the series started I gave it credit for being different from all the other spirit hunter shows out there. Our main lead was a normal guy that happened to be immortal, our female lead had reasonable fears about hunting youma again, the people of world had varying degrees of accept of spirits with the spirits themselves using a wonderful mammal metaphor to describe the spirits, and lastly that spirits in general were not grave matters but money making ventures. The characters also were developing nicely with quirks but still personalities.

However episode six the main characters have devolved into stereotypes and hunters that have been show as competent warriors can not handle a fairly simple enemy but before they were fighting hordes of much tougher creatures. I get this is supposed to be a fan service/ fun episode but it felt the characters got slighter worse both in design and level of combat mastery. I mean really our female lead has a blood blade that has been show to extend large distances yet she could not hit the floating eyeball from a short distance? Also how did they screw up that many times that a week of smelling terrible to practice in a band was better idea then I don't know just trying again after a few close attempts.

This has been a weird season. The shows I thought were doing terrible in their first few episodes like Log Horizon are doing interesting and fascinating things while the shows that started out strong are getting progressively worse.
Jan 3, 2014 1:09 AM

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Lol episode
Those flashback when they trained to become Idol
Too much drama in it xD
They became Idols.. but they just forgot the main goal =="

I thought it's gonna turn into Love Live/Idolm@ster xD

Oh "once is enough" (see Joshiraku for further details)
Back to the story~
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Jan 4, 2014 6:01 AM

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Funny episode.

Sucks they didn't get him in the end xD
Jan 4, 2014 5:32 PM

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I personally enjoyed this episode very much, it was fun to me :3

But I can only recommend to watch this episode after you finished the anime as a special or an OVA, cause it is a filler episode, which has absolutely nothing to do with the main plot.
It just distracts you from the story, especially because the story-telling of this anime is really subliminal.

I can only assess Ep. 1-6 (Yeah, german subs obviously take their time xD) but that's what striked me :)
Jan 10, 2014 7:33 PM

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I dare anyone to find a better episode from any series than this episode.
Eh
Jan 24, 2014 3:12 AM

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This episode was so random but I liked it! A little filler-ish but I guess they wanted to show us that they're becoming a team or something.
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