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Sep 14, 2013 9:56 AM
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Yay, she got a new shovel. Grats I guess.

Now that I think about it though, the school looks pretty average. Oh look Alis trying to hide something..and I see drama. The look on Dee's face spells out fear.

Oh well, a pleasant ending I guess. Not sure how the finale will go but I'm ready.
Sep 14, 2013 11:03 AM
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So Ai played a role of a good shot in the arm for them (or at least Alis)? 14 years is surely long. Kinda surprising Dee has not got weary of him yet.

Since I had expected the series to be like a road movie, this arc feels prolonged. Also it's not so impressive as the dead-city arc. When I had heard Ai's desire to save the world, I had expected the series to be full of exciting and magnificent arcs like the dead city one. But somehow the show turned out school arcs so far. That said, it's still fun to watch it thanks to the unique atmosphere and setting.
Sep 14, 2013 2:40 PM
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One day before school festival is the day that got reset... Red hair guy collected the data, but that girl destroys it to prevent stopping what happens here (the factor of being different). Timid girl became “witch” girl because she died that day from falling when preparing (so she was a “ghost” when she was in outside world). Too peaceful that they feel like they like being in this looping world that it’s scary.
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Sep 14, 2013 6:56 PM
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Erhm... correct me if I'm wrong but...

Sep 15, 2013 2:02 AM
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What a tragic ending to the episode, though it came out exactly like Dee expected. . .
All that weight on a thirteen-year old to find a solution.
Really late for me to realize, but it's pretty much like an Endless Eight.
Alis x Dee, and Yuri x Scar
The only anomaly was that I found it strange the group wasn't more worried in July about not solving the issue in time and forever being stuck.
Really excited for the last episode (not that I want the series to be over, but this is really the only deep series this season, imo).

Though it's only 12 ep., I really liked the development of this series. The pacing is fit more for a full-season, so hopefully someday we will see a S2 of this series. It really is amazing, especially with it's visuals and soundtracks!

5/5 ( ^ _ ^ )

Sep 15, 2013 2:47 AM
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So Alis is willing to sacrifice anything for his goal. Must have hurt for Dee, even though she'd guessed it, it's worse to hear it.

This arc is very much like Hakomari's Rejecting Classroom.
Sep 15, 2013 3:16 AM
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Poor Dee...
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Sep 15, 2013 3:20 AM
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You can really feel for Dee :( :(
Sep 15, 2013 4:52 AM
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So she loved him. What if the reason Alis isn't affected by that loop and can regain his memories is because he had a different wish granted? That he didn't wish for the same thing Class 3-4 did? He has Buzzer Beater after all.
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And so the people from the previous episode discussion correctly predicted this episode.
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Sep 15, 2013 6:20 AM

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Woah this is very Interesting now
Sep 15, 2013 7:06 AM
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dee got ntr'd
Sep 15, 2013 8:25 AM

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Wow the feels I had from the first 3 episodes have finally resurfaced. This anime probably would've been good if that other school arc had been executed better. The dead city arc is by far my favorite, though I've developed a liking for Alis.
Sep 15, 2013 9:19 AM

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I hope Dee can be saved.
Sep 15, 2013 9:44 AM

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Obihiro said:
So Alis is willing to sacrifice anything for his goal. Must have hurt for Dee, even though she'd guessed it, it's worse to hear it.

This arc is very much like Hakomari's Rejecting Classroom.

That's what I've been saying since this arc has started, they're both so very much alike

I'm really enjoying this arc so far, with Alis saying that he would sacrifice everything just to save that world, it must really hurt for Dee. Seeing that there's one episode left, I wonder if Ai will try to find some way to get Dee out of that world as well.
Sep 15, 2013 10:14 AM

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Oh, so Dee really died.. I wonder if Alis really doesn't know anything about this. I'm thinking that, he already knew or noticed that Dee died and the real reason of this time loop.. Hmm, but I think Alis love Dee too :)
Sep 15, 2013 11:31 AM

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Alis x Ai is prevailing, poor Dee. NTR'd.

One more episode left :(

Reaaaaaally hoping for season 2.
Sep 15, 2013 11:31 AM
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I think Alis already knows that Dee is dead or at least suspects it.
In the end I don't think Dee could be "saved" I think it's best for her character to grow and realize that if she really does love Alis then she would free the class and to stop clinging onto his so much.

Ai would probably give her a burial so her soul can rest and move on to heaven or whatever.

Anyways I ship Ai and Alis. Those two have so much chemistry.
Sep 15, 2013 11:32 AM

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Poor Dee! And last episode next week:(
Sep 15, 2013 11:35 AM
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I like what Alis said about wishes, how wishes aren't meant to be granted because people stop working hard towards it. He knows it all too well with his prefect aim ability :( that's sad that once his wish was granted, it also took away the thing he loved the most. Dee knowing that she is the cause of the loop is sad too, knowing that she's already dead. Saving the class would mean that the world move on without her. But then again not sure how it would all work out if the world continued, would she just suddenly disappear? Poor Dee too when she saw that Alis was playing basketball with Ai, that must really hurt. I don't think she should take it to heart that he would be willing to sacrifice someone to save the class, he probably (maybe?) sacrifice himself too if that's what it takes. At least he wouldn't stop half way after trying so hard this whole time. Hm I just randomly rememebered this, but that one time when Alis shot all his classmates, he didn't shoot Dee right? Or maybe he did. Just wondering why if he didn't happen to shoot her.
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Really awesome ep. Loving this arc.

Poor Dee. U gotta feel bad for her T_T...esp when she saw Alis laughing with Ai.

Alis is an awesome character. Still wondering why he wasn't affected by the loop though? Also his aim ability?

Can't wait for last ep. Should have an awesome conclusion.
Sep 15, 2013 12:07 PM

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Poor Dee, it's sad to see that she really died
Alis and Ai are so cute together

Just one more episode, can't wait for this!
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Sep 15, 2013 12:15 PM

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That was sad for Dee. If Alis was killed, why doesn't he remember that? I wonder if she can be really brought back from dead.
Sep 15, 2013 1:19 PM

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Good episode.
This arc is alright
Sep 15, 2013 2:32 PM

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Great episode!!!
Sep 15, 2013 2:46 PM

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Aww, I want both Dee and Alis to be happy :(
Sep 15, 2013 2:50 PM

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That news article that Dee prevented Ai from reading had Alis's name in it....
Sep 15, 2013 3:28 PM

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Too much loli fanservice..
Weaken the seriousness and the emotional impact.
Sep 15, 2013 3:38 PM

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I have no idea who's alive and who's dead anymore to be honest with you all here.

Poor Dee at the end, looking forward to the series finale next week.
Sep 15, 2013 3:38 PM
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That news article that Dee prevented Ai from reading had Alis's name in it....


Because it was Alis who died, not Dee. Here is the transcription of the text in French:

"Le 28 juillet vers 16h30, un professeur, après avoid découvert qu'un élève avait fait une chute dans la cour de l'École d'Ostie, a aussitôt alerté les pompiers. Sitôt accourus, les secouristes ont confirmé la mort de l'élève. Ils ont constaté que le crâne de la victime, qui avait heurté le sol avec violence, était hideusement abimé.

D'après l'annonce de la police centrale de la ville d'Ostie, il s'agirait d'Alice Color, élève en classe de Terminale 4. On suppose que celui-ci est tombé par mégarde de la fenêtre de la salle de classe, située au 3ième étage du bâtiment scolaire, lors des préparatifs de la fête de l'École.

Dans le même temps, les 17 élèves de la classe de Terminale 4 ont tous disparus de l'École ainsi que les familles sont toujours sans nouvelles d'eux."

Technically this is not really spoiler because you just had to pay attention. This is also why Dee was hiding the newspaper. She would not hide to Ai if she was the one who died.
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Sep 15, 2013 4:03 PM

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wakka9ca said:
bokurawaitsumo said:
That news article that Dee prevented Ai from reading had Alis's name in it....


Because it was Alis who died, not Dee. Here is the transcription of the text in French:

"Le 28 juillet vers 16h30, un professeur, après avoid découvert qu'un élève avait fait une chute dans la cour de l'École d'Ostie, a aussitôt alerté les pompiers. Sitôt accourus, les secouristes ont confirmé la mort de l'élève. Ils ont constaté que le crâne de la victime, qui avait heurté le sol avec violence, était hideusement abimé.

D'après l'annonce de la police centrale de la ville d'Ostie, il s'agirait d'Alice Color, élève en classe de Terminale 4. On suppose que celui-ci est tombé par mégarde de la fenêtre de la salle de classe, située au 3ième étage du bâtiment scolaire, lors des préparatifs de la fête de l'École.

Dans le même temps, les 17 élèves de la classe de Terminale 4 ont tous disparus de l'École ainsi que les familles sont toujours sans nouvelles d'eux."

Technically this is not really spoiler because you just had to pay attention. This is also why Dee was hiding the newspaper. She would not hide to Ai if she was the one who died.


In that case, why isn't he the ghost in the outside world?

I think this was my favorite episode yet.
Sep 15, 2013 4:14 PM
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neontaster said:
wakka9ca said:
bokurawaitsumo said:
That news article that Dee prevented Ai from reading had Alis's name in it....


Because it was Alis who died, not Dee. Here is the transcription of the text in French:

"Le 28 juillet vers 16h30, un professeur, après avoid découvert qu'un élève avait fait une chute dans la cour de l'École d'Ostie, a aussitôt alerté les pompiers. Sitôt accourus, les secouristes ont confirmé la mort de l'élève. Ils ont constaté que le crâne de la victime, qui avait heurté le sol avec violence, était hideusement abimé.

D'après l'annonce de la police centrale de la ville d'Ostie, il s'agirait d'Alice Color, élève en classe de Terminale 4. On suppose que celui-ci est tombé par mégarde de la fenêtre de la salle de classe, située au 3ième étage du bâtiment scolaire, lors des préparatifs de la fête de l'École.

Dans le même temps, les 17 élèves de la classe de Terminale 4 ont tous disparus de l'École ainsi que les familles sont toujours sans nouvelles d'eux."

Technically this is not really spoiler because you just had to pay attention. This is also why Dee was hiding the newspaper. She would not hide to Ai if she was the one who died.


In that case, why isn't he the ghost in the outside world?

I think this was my favorite episode yet.


Just watch the next episode :)
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Just watch the next episode :)


Yeah I was wondering out loud. I have a theory but it could be totally wrong depending on what we see next week.
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dee :(
a really good episode.
this arc is shaping up really well
Sep 15, 2013 6:07 PM
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This would have gave me so much feels if it turned out Alis died, so Dee made this world because it was the only way she could have been with him :(
Sep 15, 2013 6:49 PM
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This would have gave me so much feels if it turned out Alis died, so Dee made this world because it was the only way she could have been with him :(


Oh my god STOP you're gonna make me cry!
It's plausible though, but noooooo Alis has to live on and marry Ai -.-
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KanPaTo said:
This would have gave me so much feels if it turned out Alis died, so Dee made this world because it was the only way she could have been with him :(


Oh my god STOP you're gonna make me cry!
It's plausible though, but noooooo Alis has to live on and marry Ai -.-


Read the newspaper. Pause it a bit. Or read Wakka9ca's post.

Here's the image with the direct google translate:

http://i.imgur.com/YfXo3Od.jpg

Here's the text translated (Thanks Wakka9ca for the french):

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^Well then that certainly mixes things up a bit. I have a feeling Dee shooting Alis is important here, as well as Alis not shooting Dee when he killed everybody. No clue how they'll tie together..But as far as wishes go, Dee probably made a wish that involved giving her life to bring him back, explaining her ghost form, and allowing him to "live" in real time outside the loop world. And of course the class still takes responsibility for the loop. So I'm thinking Dee would still be the one to die(or disappear I guess) if the class' wish was somehow revoked and real time returned, unless her wish was also revoked.

But it doesn't seem like Alis knows, which is odd since he's the one who put the article in the book. His "wanting to turn 17" could just be a bit of misdirection, or him lamenting the fact that he can't unless he let's Dee die(that's assuming he knows about her wish though). So it would have to come down to whether he knows about Dee's wish. Because he probably just thinks he would be the sacrifice right now.
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^Well then that certainly mixes things up a bit. I have a feeling Dee shooting Alis is important here, as well as Alis not shooting Dee when he killed everybody. No clue how they'll tie together..But as far as wishes go, Dee probably made a wish that involved giving her life to bring him back, explaining her ghost form, and allowing him to "live" in real time outside the loop world. And of course the class still takes responsibility for the loop. So I'm thinking Dee would still be the one to die(or disappear I guess) if the class' wish was somehow revoked and real time returned, unless her wish was also revoked.

But it doesn't seem like Alis knows, which is odd since he's the one who put the article in the book.


It's a bit interesting. We don't know if Dee is lying or not. She said she never really talked to Alis before the whole July 28th thing. She got to know him during time loop (from what I can understand). Why would she wish to give her life instead of his? It's a bit weird when you think about it.

Maybe Alis' real name is Dee and Dee is Alice. That's a stretch lol

We'll see next week.
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Here's the text translated (Thanks Wakka9ca for the french):



Ah sorry for the typo. AVOID should be AVOIR ("to have"). Here is the fixed text and let me translate it for you because Google Translate kinda funky at certain points because avoid is not a French word... :S <-- broken English sorry lol

French: "Le 28 juillet vers 16h30, un professeur, après avoir découvert qu'un élève avait fait une chute dans la cour de l'École d'Ostie, a aussitôt alerté les pompiers."

English: "On July 28th, around 4:30pm, a teacher has alerted the emergency services after discovering that a student had fallen into the courtyard of Ostie High School."

The French is slightly funky but the most grammatically correct French I have seen in anime. Even the syntax is nearly perfect except for a few weird choice of arrangements. Kudos to the producers.
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Teldara said:

She said she never really talked to Alis before the whole July 28th thing. She got to know him during time loop (from what I can understand). Why would she wish to give her life instead of his? It's a bit weird when you think about it.


That's a good point..And I'm probably thinking incorrectly, but the scene where she watches him shooting jumpshots, was that pre-loop or during the loop? I was thinking that it was pre-loop because he hadn't become the buzzer beater yet, but I guess he could have easily gotten it during the loop huh.. but in that same sense, she could have also made the wish to give her life instead during the loop because she knew how badly he wanted to get out, and probably assumed he would disappear if he returned to real time.
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The French is slightly funky but the most grammatically correct French I have seen in anime. Even the syntax is nearly perfect except for a few weird choice of arrangements. Kudos to the producers.


I thought the same. There are some mistakes here and there and weird arrangement like you said, but it is not bad french at all. It's good work for japanese I think.

Ça fait tout de même drôle de voir ma langue maternelle dans un anime haha. C'est une première pour moi.

This arc is good. It's a shame it's ending next week. I enjoyed most of it so far.
Sep 15, 2013 8:33 PM
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That's some epic plot twist there. Totally didn't notice Alis' name in the newspaper and article
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That was a good episode, I'm really liking this arc. Too bad next week is the last episode too.
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Another great episode, this show WILL need to have a second season. I love it.

I also suspect that Alis knows that Dee is dead. I guess we´ll have to wait for next epiosode to confirm it.
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Really liking this last arc

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I can't even predict what will happen in the next episode, oh god I can't wait :<

This really needs a season 2 though, it's sure to sell with all the lolis and stuff.
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Poor Dee.
Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances.
He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter.
Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga.
Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month.
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This episode was amasing! I love it so much and I feel so bad for Dee ;_;;; Awwwww, this is just so good :')
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wakka9ca said:

The French is slightly funky but the most grammatically correct French I have seen in anime. Even the syntax is nearly perfect except for a few weird choice of arrangements. Kudos to the producers.


I thought the same. There are some mistakes here and there and weird arrangement like you said, but it is not bad french at all. It's good work for japanese I think.

Ça fait tout de même drôle de voir ma langue maternelle dans un anime haha. C'est une première pour moi.

This arc is good. It's a shame it's ending next week. I enjoyed most of it so far.


Yeah, I noticed that the French was pretty damn good as well.

A great episode, and a great arc in general. I can't wait until it's conclusion. Alis and Ai have such nice chemistry, ahh it's just so nice watching them together they're so cute. Not that I don't feel bad Dee, though. I wonder why Dee takes form of a ghost and Alis doesn't, though? I have some theories, but they're not fleshed out very well so I can't say anything yet.
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