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Mar 19, 2013 12:51 AM
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damn it was not shown how Izuna died, it might be shown when Madara's own flashback comes
Mar 19, 2013 12:58 AM
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So now we know how things went down between Madara and Senju
Nice chapter with an interesting ending
Mar 19, 2013 1:17 AM
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So Madara was just a wussy who didn't want to change, lame.
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Mar 19, 2013 1:31 AM
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I still want to know if Izuna eyes is taken or he give it to Madara.
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Mar 19, 2013 1:32 AM
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I still want to know if Izuna eyes is taken or he give it to Madara.


I don't think it really matters much at this point. But still, "Kill yourself or Kill your brother". Wow, guess the Uchiha really did force Madara into the truce.
Mar 19, 2013 1:42 AM
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Another lame chapter.
Mar 19, 2013 2:02 AM
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Madara is such a crybaby.
Mar 19, 2013 2:07 AM
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Naruto was exciting when I was a child...
"Why do I always realize it... when I've already lost it..." -Guts, Berserk
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Mar 19, 2013 2:13 AM
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This is just getting worse every week... I mean, why? Madara just remembered that he was an Uchiha and lost his brothers because of Senju? So? Did not you know that all along from the start? Hashirama also lost his siblings to the Uchiha anyway... Meh, it is not even boring now, just lame...
Mar 19, 2013 2:14 AM

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I think Hashirama will accept the deal since we have shown in the other flashback that Tobirama is a hokage around this age. That will also explain why Tobirama create edo tensei and resent uchiha much.
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Mar 19, 2013 2:19 AM

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I think Hashirama will accept the deal since we have shown in the other flashback that Tobirama is a hokage around this age. That will also explain why Tobirama create edo tensei and resent uchiha much.


Hadn't thought of that, but it sounds very likely


Mar 19, 2013 3:21 AM

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I think Hashirama will accept the deal since we have shown in the other flashback that Tobirama is a hokage around this age. That will also explain why Tobirama create edo tensei and resent uchiha much.


But what of the Battle in the Valley, then?

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This is just getting worse every week... I mean, why? Madara just remembered that he was an Uchiha and lost his brothers because of Senju? So? Did not you know that all along from the start? Hashirama also lost his siblings to the Uchiha anyway... Meh, it is not even boring now, just lame...


They didn't know their surnames before. Only afterwards. And Madara only got angry after Hashirama's dad tried to kill Izuna.
Mar 19, 2013 3:26 AM

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NeoAnkara said:
I think Hashirama will accept the deal since we have shown in the other flashback that Tobirama is a hokage around this age. That will also explain why Tobirama create edo tensei and resent uchiha much.


But what of the Battle in the Valley, then?
Maybe Madara is chalange Hashirama to duel to death since he still see Hashirama as a friend and want to kill him himself. On another note, one other interesting think is that Madara activing his sharingan when he betray Hashirama is a sign that he value him greatly.
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Mar 19, 2013 3:34 AM

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Okay, Things are finally moving. Although I wanna know if Hashirama agrees or not... since Tobirama became the 2nd Hokage.
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Mar 19, 2013 4:17 AM

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fuck WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mar 19, 2013 4:42 AM

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Madara's the same as Sasuke... talking about "childish dream". The Uchihas are really too full of themselves.

I think this was a good flashback.

Madara's sharingan was awaken during the spur of the moment.
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Mar 19, 2013 4:53 AM

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"kill your brother or yourself and then i might trust you" He should just of said "ya fuck that kill me bro"

Still an interesting chapter, and although the reason is not really the best, I'm happy to know what went wrong.
Mar 19, 2013 5:31 AM

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Hopefully this flashback will end soon.
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Mar 19, 2013 5:37 AM

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NeoAnkara said:
I think Hashirama will accept the deal since we have shown in the other flashback that Tobirama is a hokage around this age. That will also explain why Tobirama create edo tensei and resent uchiha much.


Nope. They haven even create the konoha in this time. How could they be hokage? and isnt Tobirama died protecting Hiruzen and the other squad member? (during danzo's flashback when tobirama appoint hiruzen to be the next hokage)

btw this chapter is ok. This chapter we can conclude that its tobirama who caused izuna's death. the best thing in this chapter for me is when hashirama give his brother the "stare" again xP
Mar 19, 2013 5:47 AM

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From bad fights to flashbacks with bad fights then onto bad fights again.I didn't like this chapter just as like I didn't like last like 20 chapters.
Mar 19, 2013 5:58 AM

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Man Hashirama was crusty as hell back then, when Madara got defeated, Tobirama was going to end it all right there, but Hashirama stopped him for some stupid reason, like some young Uchiha's who like Madara will go on a rampage, who cares, just kill them all off.
Mar 19, 2013 7:42 AM

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Madara and hasirama fought because they were uchiha and senju... nice....

The little part at the end was good, but overall naruto is boring me at the minute. I thought they would at least found konoha together and then madara could go betray him for some reason or another, just feels like it is stating the obvious right now. All we are seeing is two rival clans fighting, as if we didn't know that the senju and uchiha fought >.>
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Does anyone else need a doctor to confirm that someone without a head is dead?
Mar 19, 2013 7:50 AM

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I am really enjoying this flashback, get to see the motivations behind Harishima and Madara. It was nice to see little bouts of all their encounters, Izuna getting fatally wounded, Madara getting the Mangekyo Sharingan, and Harishima's insistence on peace, he was truly a good dude.
Mar 19, 2013 8:02 AM
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NeoAnkara said:
I think Hashirama will accept the deal since we have shown in the other flashback that Tobirama is a hokage around this age. That will also explain why Tobirama create edo tensei and resent uchiha much.


Smart thought! I totally agree with you
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Mar 19, 2013 8:29 AM

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I aint going to lie i thought flashback would be as long as Vagabond and Shamo. Either the fights was trash. Naruto made me hate flashbacks in just about every anime and manga now if its not about the main character.
Mar 19, 2013 8:29 AM

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Man, Seeing Tobirama be all cold I can totally see where Danzo got his inspiration from!

And of course Hashirama would try to use talk-no-jutsu as he's she foreswadowing of what Naruto can become!
Mar 19, 2013 9:07 AM

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it was a good chapter, to bad it didn't show how Izuna died
Mar 19, 2013 9:15 AM
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Instead of making fun of the manga every week (not that it would need my help anyway), I've decided to look at it positively. That is, hope that all the techniques of various characters will be as flashy and extraordinary as possible. Why, you wonder? Because then that would mean that the next Naruto game will have more characters with great looking techniques which are *so much* fun to play with. Take Madara, the revived Jinchuuriki or the other Edo Tensei guys as an example -- they made the latest addition in the Naruto series a heck of a game.
That being said, nothing of importance was shown in this chapter. Tobirama only used a sword technique, instead of his rumored water ninjutsu, and Izuna just, you know, died. A sad week for the gaming department. Let's hope for the next one to be better! Until then, fellow members.
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Mar 19, 2013 9:32 AM

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i thought this chapter was ok I gave it a 3/5 but I actually don't mind the concept behind this flashback so maybe that's why I don't hate as much as other ppl but I could see how this could be annoying to people who dislike flashbacks in naruto.
Mar 19, 2013 10:02 AM

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The moment Madara awakened his sharingan was pretty cool.
Mar 19, 2013 10:10 AM

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Not a bad chapter, it was better than the previous one; but whats with all the emo. "Kill your brother or kill yourself...." and whats with Hashirama's hard-on for Madara. I get that they where friends for a while as kids and their plan was a great idea but Madara has been fighting him non-stop since they where children. Their clans are at war Madara refuses to go along with his plan every time, just kill him and be done with it. Tobirama is the only sane person in this arc, honestly try harder Kishimoto.

What happened to Kishimoto? I mean the guy use to write excellent back stories for his characters back in the day. I still remember Guy Lee's past; nearly made me cry the first time I read it. Now all of his flashbacks feel very superficial. I never really feel any sense of attachment to the characters since he always reuses the same betrayal story. This is going to be the pain arc all over again. They are going to leave it up to Naruto and Sasuke to "break the cycle".
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it was kinda boring at first but it was real awesome when Madara awakened his sharingan... and idk I find Tobirama attractive >_< loool
Maybe next time.
Mar 19, 2013 10:28 AM

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Felt like a short/fast chapter lol
Mar 19, 2013 10:35 AM

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kinda liked the chapter
Mar 19, 2013 11:17 AM

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So basically Senju >> Uchiha still. No longer an eye show now lol
Mar 19, 2013 11:26 AM

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How did the heck can Tobirama become the 2nd hokage if Konoha wasn't even formed yet??
Mar 19, 2013 11:59 AM

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I don't get why madara blames hashirama for fatally wounding izuna when it was tobimaru who used the flying thunder god slash on izuna. That was the last time he was seen. Unless kishimoto doesn't want to show us that part of his death
Mar 19, 2013 12:03 PM

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Madara is an idiot.
Mar 19, 2013 12:10 PM
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That chapter was ok...a little better than the ones before, but nothing special.
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Madara Kishimoto is an idiot.
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Mar 19, 2013 2:25 PM

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damm that he be wanting and eye for an eye
Mar 19, 2013 2:44 PM

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Dude, Hashirama is a master of punking people out! XD
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Mar 19, 2013 6:08 PM

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and thus the story of romeo and Juliet comes to an end. Now we get back to the battle between madara and hashirama right?

I mean come on, kishimoto is not going to leave us hanging after witnessing that epic battle with no resolution.



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Madara Kishimoto is an idiot.


lol have to agree with you there.
Mar 19, 2013 9:33 PM
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Wtf Madara =_= asking Hashirama to kill his brother...even if doing so would gain his trust, Hashirama would be disapproved by his own people.
Mar 20, 2013 12:11 AM

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Honestly i hope this flash back or back story continues further, i would like to see Kagami Uchiha,Setsuna Uchiha, we don't know hardly anything bout them or Shinshui. Or maybe it will come into play at some point later. But i hope kishimoto does not leave us hanging with the whole rebellion of the senju clan during the 2nd hokage's rule.
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Honestly i hope this flash back or back story continues further, i would like to see Kagami Uchiha,Setsuna Uchiha, we don't know hardly anything bout them or Shinshui. Or maybe it will come into play at some point later. But i hope kishimoto does not leave us hanging with the whole rebellion of the senju clan during the 2nd hokage's rule.


Kagami and Shisui were after Hashirama's time, so how can he be included in Hashirama's flashback?
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Honestly i hope this flash back or back story continues further, i would like to see Kagami Uchiha,Setsuna Uchiha, we don't know hardly anything bout them or Shinshui. Or maybe it will come into play at some point later. But i hope kishimoto does not leave us hanging with the whole rebellion of the senju clan during the 2nd hokage's rule.


Kagami and Shisui were after Hashirama's time, so how can he be included in Hashirama's flashback?



Because the flash back could flash forward further into the future, most likely not though, it will probably be explained later on, but for once it would be nice to see a full back story behind the mobile military police of the senju clan and what their motives were, and what motivated hashirama and tobirama to start building konoho, their is much history left to be told, i just hope kishi does not leave those things out. But then again fans said we would never see izuna gain, and we were wrong bout that.

So far kishimoto is doing a great job wrapping up the story lines, if i had to say one of the major faults with the show though is the whole "a loved one dies that is close to an uchiha that causes them to go insane with rage" This chapter was just a little over the top in my opinion when in regards to vengeance and how madara and hashirma became sworn enemies.



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I liked it.
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